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welcome to the rabbits. We continue to
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support the action and the movement. Everyone is in
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touch with us. Marina Stavdiychuk,
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whom I am always happy to see. Marina.
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Congratulations. Thank you for taking the time to meet people. I also congratulate
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our viewers today with the
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great Christian holiday.
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love to all of us
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Thank you very much Marina Marina, you know, we have
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already talked about the fact that we have such a
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strong desire to throw Russia out of
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the zone, let's go back to this a little bit,
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because we understand that
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the President will speak at the
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United Nations and it is really possible here
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somehow it is possible to
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push this process a little, I don't know
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how much it is possible to push
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it now, yes, how fast it is,
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but in any case, well, we understand
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what we remember, yes, tanks are impossible,
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and beer is impossible, and nothing is impossible, but it
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all comes together maybe it is possible if you
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really want something that stands
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guard over the Victory of Ukraine and the protection of the
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sovereignty of our state, in this
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context the question posed by you is
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extremely relevant because this is how the
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United Nations
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will start its special session of the
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General Assembly after lunch on February 22, Kyiv time the UN and
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the question is whether to push
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or not to push, I will tell you that the
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organization of the United Nations has already
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started active work, including with the
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participation of the
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representation of Ukraine in the organization of the
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United Nations, definitely the leadership of
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our country's
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diplomatic service
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in order to
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discuss the Ukrainian issue at the
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special session of the UN General Assembly on February 22 and
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23, the
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unconstructive character, we have
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already discussed with you more than once that the question of
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the exclusion of Russia and the Zone, someone says
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to throw it away.
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they consider themselves to be at least the
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founders of the United Nations,
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although if you look closely at the UN Charter, you
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will see that the Soviet Union is listed in the list of
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member states or members of the Security Council,
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not Russia. You and I
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devoted a separate program to this issue,
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and I think that today we are already
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leaving the fact that the
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United Nations itself, on our initiative,
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raises the issue of Russia's exclusion from the UN as a whole from time to time. Well, Ukraine does not
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let him sleep on
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this issue, so to speak, but today it is very important for us to
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commemorate the anniversary of the beginning of military armed
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aggression Russia against Ukraine still
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make the discussion of the Ukrainian issue
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at the UN General Assembly extremely
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constructive so that it is supported by
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the majority of member states of the
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United Nations and understands its
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task that
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the UN is an extremely complex interstate
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structure in which
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despite all the efforts and despite the efforts of
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Ukraine I have over the last year, and
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despite the fact that Russia is the main violator of the
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tasks, goals, and principles of the
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United Nations organization, Russia has a
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wide enough influence, well, this is the
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reality today, and we can't get away from it, children,
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so it's important for us to understand that as of
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today, literally from
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last week in the organization of its united
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names, they began to work with a draft of the
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corresponding resolution, which is called
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the principles that underlie a comprehensive,
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just and lasting peace in Ukraine,
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in essence, this is a document that is
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prepared to go to the Ukrainian authorities
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with our participation, but
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as insider sources say, in the
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Organization itself, About of the United Nations, it is
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formed in such a way that it still
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has broad support and is
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voted
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in by the
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relevant members of the
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UN when the issue of this
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resolution is raised, that is, for today we
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proceed from the fact that this resolution or
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projects of
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which we
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can already be familiar with, or at least with
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comments with insiders on this
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matter. He has such a very expansive
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character, a very broad character, and when
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the Minister of Foreign Affairs Kuleba
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says that he hopes that Russia will remember
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this
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anniversary date, then we must understand that this
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will be united and political and
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diplomatic efforts will be given a lot
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signals for the Russian Federation,
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including those related to the rehabilitation policy
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and the supply of weapons,
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with those signals that will
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symbolize the support of Ukraine throughout
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the world, but here we need to know how to always
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act very hard, pragmatically,
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talk less and work more on the content of the issue,
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at least for today
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the exclusion of Russia from the UN, the exclusion of Russia
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from the UN Security Council does
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not appear at all as a problem in the
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relevant resolution, which has already begun
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to be discussed in the United
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Nations organization, therefore it is important for us this week,
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which is left practically before the start of
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the session of the General Assembly, to
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direct this issue to the
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or otherwise, everything was already stated in the
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relevant resolution and it is very important for
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President Zelensky when he will
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speak at the meeting, and he will
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definitely speak, his speech
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will obviously be key in considering the
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Ukrainian issue in connection with this
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terrible anniversary of the
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shameful and groundless armed aggression
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against our of the state For
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Zelensky to ask this question And you
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see how the United Nations Organizations themselves are
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now
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forming various such trends Well, what is the
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value of the speech at the meeting of the UN Security Council
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just a few days ago by
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Roger Waters yes as the leader of the Pink
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Floyd group We were simply all excited by
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his speech He said that the
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aggression against Ukraine was provoked,
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and I want to bring you back to our
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previous conversation, when we told
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you that Russia is a violator of the
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United Nations Charter of all
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principles and principles.
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perpetrated a
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massive military aggression against our
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country. Then
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allow me a little clarification and you
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will continue, yes, and as far as I
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understand correctly from what you just said, that
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Ukraine should somehow outline, yes, how to
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present it so that, after all, you
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said that we need to work a lot hard.
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Maybe in on the sidelines And
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yes And only so and what I want to say I
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understand that we have to propose
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some mechanism Well, for example, the exclusion of
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Russia as a punishment for something yes or
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the exclusion of Russia as I don't know is part of the
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reform of the United Nations Organization or the
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reform there redazon or something
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to find some algorithms, I am right.
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Yes, you are absolutely right, and I agree with
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you 200% here, that no one
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will do our work for us today is the
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most painful issue for Ukraine. I do not
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rule out that for many other member states of the
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United Nations in a
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short time period, the issue of
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Russian aggression can become just as painful if
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dispersion as an aggressor is not stopped here because this is
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their tendency and for internal
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use we are fighting with NATO, it is
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usual for them if even they lose this
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war and General Mili literally yesterday at the
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press conference did not repeat his the
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old thesis that on the next 9
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Rammstein Yes, if Russia loses this war,
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then of course it is
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very important for Russia to
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say that they are fighting with NATO for internal use, No, they
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are fighting with Ukraine on the territory of Ukraine,
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NATO is simply
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helping Ukraine and the
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Ukrainian people in this armed aggression first of all, to
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realize our international and natural
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right of the Ukrainian people to self-defense of
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our state, and by the way, it is written in the
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UN, it is written in the UN, where it is written
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that every country has, yes, it is undoubtedly
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one of the key principles, because the
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principles of the organization of the United Nations
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and formed on the state with
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respect for the state sovereignty of each
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of the states that are members of this
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organization on the one hand and on the other
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hand all the articles of the United
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Nations Organization of the United
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Nations Organization and all the mechanisms that are in this
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statute and the mechanisms that are or
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Conventional mechanisms are the basis of the statute.
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They are all related to
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settling the issue of peace or threats of
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confronting the threat of war, based
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primarily on diplomatic and
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political work, and not threatening us with war
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to clarify certain circumstances, but
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I want to come back here, you know when we
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are talking about the mechanisms. To the key
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premises that underlie the
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mechanisms that we can
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offer today with which Ukraine can
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operate so
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that this issue is really real and not
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formal. On the agenda of the OUN,
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you know that a lot of attention is paid to the
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historical aspect of this problem that in
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its time
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documents were submitted in an illegitimate way and so on, there are many controversial
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historical moments and I absolutely agree with this, the
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issue of
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procedural democratic
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legitimacy is the presence of the
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Russian Federation as part of the
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United Nations. And it is absolutely
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clear that this issue must be raised,
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but as I insisted when we started
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this campaign against Russia and the UN. And today
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I insist that Ukraine should
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focus primarily on the issues
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of Russia, first of all, how they
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consider themselves a founding state, how
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they consider themselves a member state of the UN Security Council,
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that is, this state is entrusted with
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special additional the functions of the authority
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to prevent war in the measure of peace or in
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the world is a serious violator of the
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UN charter itself, and this is what will give an
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opportunity if Ukraine focuses on
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that, then each of the charters, starting
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there with the
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first, second, sixth, up to the 50th articles of the
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UN charter, will give an understanding of that What exactly does
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Russia have today, which is an
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aggressor country
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without any reason? It is the leader of Pink Floyd. You
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see, he is also a singer. Although he
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may be there and has his own
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civic position, this is the question. But
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it is clear that he
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prepared and spoke at the meeting with someone's input Security Council of
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the United Nations And it is absolutely clear that this sports
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phrase about the
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legality of the provoked
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conflict
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is not by chance the basis of his
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speech, it is the thesis of Russia, which they are
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spreading by and large, and we need to
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give an adequate answer precisely to this, that the
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aggression was groundless, that the aggression
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was carried out with from the state that is the
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founder of the UN from the state that is the
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funder of the Soviet Security Council
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Marina, thank you very much for being with
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us today, I am extremely grateful to you for that Thank you
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very much Maria Nastavnychuk was in
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touch with us today, for which we are
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sincerely grateful and of course We continue
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open, support the campaign to get Russia out of
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the UN, stay with us

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