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dear friends Hello, an

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information and analytical project of a

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caliber already familiar and loved by

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many of you is launching

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a new series of programs on its YouTube channel which will

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consist of conversations on current topics with

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well-known public political

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figures, researchers, experts

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Today we will hold our first conversation in a

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new format and naturally

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we will all together to see how

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our first pancake came out,

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lumpy or even,

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thin, ruddy, and even

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with a black crust in places,

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we will of course work on ourselves.

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Moreover, for me personally, this is my

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first experience, so to speak, in this

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role, so from you, dear Our guests and

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subscribers, we We will ask for

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active participation. Well, first of all,

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of course,

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the channel is for those who have not yet done so.

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Of course, do not forget to like

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each of our broadcasts and share on

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social networks. This will, of course, help

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spread throughout the world the realities that we

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will tell and different points

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of view. But most importantly, write to in the

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comments, your comments, wishes. Maybe it’s

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better for us to pay attention to,

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of course, considering the fact that I personally

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have never been a professional

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television broadcaster and even journalism itself

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as a profession is my

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so-to-speak late path in life, a

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fate that I met quite by chance

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already in middle age and

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here such a mutual Passionate love was born,

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education, journalist, I am a historian, and

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also a little later, a political scientist, international affairs specialist.

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Therefore, from the point of view of

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reform, it is from the position of

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professional journalism that at

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first something may not work out

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because it focuses more on the content. I personally

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always paid attention to the content rather than

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some details according to the form, so write

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your comments under our broadcasts,

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your wishes, what should we better pay

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attention to? Well, as they say, good

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luck, the first guest of our new series

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of programs will be an

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international lawyer known to all of us.

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Consent, by the way, of our project,

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and what do they tell you, I’m also very

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grateful to you for an invitation

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to participate in your project,

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in addition to the pleasant side of the issue, is also

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a responsibility, since this is also my

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first

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admission, not only yours and even the first

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participant in your project, a separate

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pleasure, as it were. I hope everything will be fine.

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I wish you good luck personally and thank you.

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So I thought the topic of

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our today While there is still a short

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broadcast, you know

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the President of the

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Azerbaijanis, it somehow naturally

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suggested itself as a topic,

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it was so full of new theses from

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Messi Cemre with open brackets.

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You know, there is a word in the Azerbaijani

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language

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for which, no matter how hard

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the translators try, they will still not be able to

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find an

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adequate translation that conveys all the

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salt of this word Here is an ask I generally

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think that it’s time to introduce this word into the

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international lexicon, I’m sure you

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listened carefully to the entire speech of the

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head of state, if you put

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together Mr. Present’s New Year’s speech,

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here are all the answers to the questions of

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television journalists that he gave,

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what are your general impressions of that

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comprehensive assessment that is, the

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results of the past year, which are summed up in

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two of your speeches

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in a nutshell, it’s very difficult

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to express

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two large volumes and a

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large complex of issues

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results of the year

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for the future, a

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lot of questions related to

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domestic policy. I think,

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given

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the audience of your project, it

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would be more appropriate

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to talk more about foreign

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political issues, if political

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issues we have constant risks and

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threats, there are

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problems that are associated with our

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geographical location of articles. They

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can also serve as a certain

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potential for the further development of both

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our country and the region as a whole,

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geographical location, of course,

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largely determines foreign policy

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elections, so we have foreign policy over

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all the years of Independence has been relatively

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stable under all the presidents that

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we have had,

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but today the situation is very different

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because

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we have liberated

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most of the

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previously occupied territory; there

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remains a small area that is

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temporarily Russian,

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but this is also a temporary problem, it is also

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solvable.

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Victory in the war and the liberation of the territory

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are of course very greatly

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expanded our capabilities,

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but of course, as I already said,

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this region has its own risks that

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are generated independently of us and foreign

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policy, in

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this sense, I think

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perhaps our conversation will include some

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questions that I will go into more detail. I

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hope you, as the presenter, will be more I

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would like to especially note with detailed questions the foreign policy aspects

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because

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in the current president and the previous

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president,

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in general, there is an

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obvious consistency in the

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foreign policy

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strategy;

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this, on the one hand, is due to our

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geographical location. As they

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say, it

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predetermines most

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political elections.

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But on the other hand, of course, there are

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peculiarities

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foreign policy, which depend on the

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thought process of those who favor this

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strategy,

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we support our neighbor’s politics,

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and in all his interviews, he generally

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very clearly knows

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his thoughts in general, public

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policy, it’s immediately clear that he’s

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just a person,

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and

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I also understand

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what there are risks,

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therefore, even

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the respect that he sometimes uses

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and which causes

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wide discussion, including in the

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opposition environment, which some

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may seem quite bold or

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may not even be entirely diplomatic,

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even in this case, I’m sure he knows what he’s

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saying about what he’s saying and

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why he is exactly like that So

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this is kind of the general impression

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And in detail Let’s go in and

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talk to me with your questions

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Since you suggested that I choose

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a direction, then let’s try to do it. The

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speech of Mr. President, at

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least the second pepper

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by the journalists was really

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thematic, so rich and with a

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variety of topics that if you

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really start discussing each

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topic separately, you can sit

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until the next morning; on the other hand,

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it’s difficult to choose one or two to

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fit into a short broadcast, especially with

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our debut, and at the same time not tire

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our viewers. Therefore, after this After

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a few seconds of thinking now, I

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decided to dwell on the topic of the rights of

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Azerbaijani refugees from the former

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Armenian USSR, which we now

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call Western Azerbaijan. This is a

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topic, as you know, for a long time. But if it

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was not hushed up, then at least it

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was not given much attention, well, without

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false modesty, I I admit that at

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every opportunity I have been trying to remind about these people all these years on

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my social networks since the 90s

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and in

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every possible way to let the Armenian side understand

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that they should relax and should not think

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that Armenia has cleared its territory of the

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Azerbaijanis and got rid of potential

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Karabakh on own territory Now

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we need to keep ethnic Armenians already in

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real Karabakh on the territory of

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Azerbaijan and seek to expand

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our territory, Mr. President

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explained in his interview Why we

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couldn’t occupy then At least from the

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official platforms, speak so often

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in the rights and Lebanese Gulchin

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Zagezur Vedic donations to and so

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on, the Azerbaijanis, we were a little

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distracted by the occupation of Karabakh and

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now the time has come when it is possible and necessary to

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speak loudly about this problem,

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we have not forgotten these people and the injustice committed

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against them in the late 80s.

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You, as an

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international lawyer, are excellent familiar with

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international law, including

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human rights and the internal cuisine of

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European councils. How do you assess

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the prospects of this new course

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from a legal point of view?

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Probably it will be necessary to explain the general

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context of the conflict; the

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Russian conflict cannot be considered

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in isolation in isolation from the more important and

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juicy problems

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so-called historical

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when Armenia

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just became independent states

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Armenia

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and

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then

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and 30 years ago the

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third war, firstly, all these wars

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were fought on the territory of Azerbaijan,

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this fact itself very clearly shows who has

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always been the aggressor of

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their territory does not start a war

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on their own territories only because we

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ourselves

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these wars are always

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initially the

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Karabakh conflict, it is a periphery in

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its essence or because the Karabakh

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conflict is torn away from the locks of the Azov

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problem, then indeed one can even

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understand the bewilderment of many European

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political analysts about the fact that

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you cannot divide Why don’t you

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you can agree, but all the countries in

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Europe were at war digested

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agree already finally

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The problem is that

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the conflict is sausage, it is not an independent

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periphery and the real geopolitical struggle

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is being waged for zagism If there

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were two sides to the old Carpathian conflict,

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then there are many more involved in the struggle for a lot of

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interested people in our

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region and in the distance from him there are very strong

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countries that Some of them are

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interested in opening this corridor,

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some of them will

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interfere, but if it

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will be easier to understand, including in the context,

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it is possible to resettle

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more than 200 thousand and now consider their

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descendants as some kind of separate

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statistic from Armenia from their

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historical homeland

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a Of course, all their rights they have

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every right to demand their

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return

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they were from there

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as an international right to look at this

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there is a

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tool called adaptation

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this is when a

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common situation arises after wars

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in our group the ruler group of people

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is the choice of citizenship

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after the First World War between Turkey

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Greece

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Bulgaria such it was after the Second World War

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and others have

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what does this mean location

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if a

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group of people does not want

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citizenship state

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population Yes, taking into account new realities

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We always also what we say we believe

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This is not just

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red words

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principled police We have always

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been based

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All these 30 years and before the war during war

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after the war of

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all political

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may be the

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so-called machine operator

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with the possibility of moving in case of

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reluctance to accept

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in this case

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the question arises

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well we understandably think

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We are going to create the

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necessary conditions including

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legal guarantees of safety and

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treat them so similar to

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handle

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And of course We are very We want a peaceful

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existence,

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Armenians, Azerbaijanis, but the question arises:

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Why should Armenians and Azerbaijanis

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return to exist only on the

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territory of

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Azerbaijan? This is like a pilot project.

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Why

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shouldn’t they live peacefully on the territory of the army?

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This question is

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inconvenient;

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if the question is asked correctly,

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it will be

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in the army. We, for our part, deliver

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guarantees for the Armenians Let Armenia take a

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similar obligation to provide

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for the people

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and then we will already have ethical groups on our

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territory

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that will share,

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exist a new life, run a household

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and all other

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necessary ensuing conditions

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he is one of the alternatives he exists

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if the Armenians do not want Yes Return

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Azerbaijanis on their territory

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if they are only concerned about security,

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that is, in your opinion, why is it

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on TV today when they

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increase the volume of this issue?

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Today, the volume of the issues we

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are discussing is in order to actually return

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our refugees to their village left

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on the territory of today's Armenia or in

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order to neutralize ambitions the Armenian

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side regarding how they say

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self-determination of security rights,

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that is,

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both They are not

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mutually exclusive

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factual your rhetorical

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Of course, a lot depends on

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how we proceed will depend on

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what issue

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we agree to

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Return is

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one of my choices

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if Armenia is not on it will agree then

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we will put it down, we will speak differently And

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of course if the Gorbatsky of Armenia or

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part of them

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see a statement from the

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pseudo official

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supposedly they are not going to

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Well then please then it is your choice of

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course

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everything all depends on the mutual consent of the

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parties this is on THAT what is there to do with

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international law even in matters of

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borders, by the way, which are very often

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speculated on, look, we always

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talked about the fact that there are people with

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international borders. All these 30 years

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they talked about it and offered a

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well-known principle of the type of

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evidence

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for the colonization of South America which

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Spanish

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state arose within the

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administrative boundaries of which

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Spanish empire.

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Later this the principle entered became the principle

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and point of view. We always proposed to

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recognize

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each other’s borders within the

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administrative borders that

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existed in the Soviet Union. Armenia

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considered that these borders

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were illegitimate, individual,

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historically incorrect, they even believed

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that it was all never to the Karaban

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at first, they said this later when it did

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not work they began to say that at the

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moment when Azerbaijan left the

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USSR, Karabakh had already left the

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composition of Azerbaijan. Never

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been there like them

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because

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we have a newly formed state on the

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territory of the former recognize

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each other’s borders, but there is no indication within

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which pages there is no indication of that so that

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your creatures give in to the Soviet Union,

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now what is happening, look, the Armenians

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still do not recognize

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this legally, although politically it is necessary

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to make some bold statements

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that before him

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he even called the total area of Armenia 29

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thousand 700 or How many kilometers that in

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principle coincides here 80 borders in

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principle coincide with administrative

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borders

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and it seems that this should be

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the way Armenia recognizes the

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legal border within the

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administrative borders, but there is one

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final one, this is very interesting and quite

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positive, but they

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remember in 1998 during the presidential

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elections when there was a

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ten-year

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residence requirement on the territory of Armenia Roberta

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Kacharyan has

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never been there lower in the Karabakh

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living territory of Azerbaijan, all their

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lives, by the way, are still not spoken much,

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perhaps

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I’m at least at my level

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trying to talk about this, and what, for

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example, now when After the defeat

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they suddenly remembered

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this is also a very important nuances

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necessary but not an insufficient condition

00:26:12

because the most important thing is that

00:26:13

the state themselves recognize the borders

00:26:15

of another world to recognize us within the borders of the

00:26:18

former Soviet Union,

00:26:20

administratively

00:26:24

correct, but politically it is not

00:26:27

important enough for us that Armenia recognizes this,

00:26:31

this conditional recognition is acceptable If

00:26:34

tomorrow the Czech Republic and Slovakia want to change

00:26:36

their borders, what the world will be against or

00:26:39

say what are you doing? We recognized you within the

00:26:41

existing boundaries of the former

00:26:44

Socialist

00:26:48

[music]

00:26:59

in itself does not yet suit us. It

00:27:06

is clear that between the two states there is only

00:27:09

one border and doubts. It will clearly indicate Where the

00:27:13

border is automatically

00:27:16

[music]

00:27:19

there are a lot of questions, Armenians instead

00:27:24

of Agreeing with Azerbaijan

00:27:27

they are trying to attract their side

00:27:29

European Western circles already Phantom do

00:27:42

n’t even say their claim territorially even already

00:27:47

agreed to the point that

00:27:51

this is a question of human rights security but

00:27:54

we shouldn’t behave

00:27:57

[music]

00:27:59

they want to translate it into some kind of

00:28:01

humanitarian Discuss

00:28:03

to end it with the fact that The Armenians cannot

00:28:06

live as part of Azerbaijan because the

00:28:07

Azerbaijanis are

00:28:09

supposedly under Geltzin, so understand for yourself

00:28:14

already. As they say, at least recognize

00:28:17

independence or some kind of status,

00:28:20

and this is, let’s say,

00:28:22

an attempt, in

00:28:27

other words,

00:28:29

to get tired of the same ones, I do

00:28:33

n’t even know what kind of reaction it

00:28:36

no longer even evokes skill and regret

00:28:42

[the music]

00:28:43

and what the Armenians are trying to resort to

00:28:46

in order to at least somehow

00:28:50

get up their

00:28:54

roots of incorrect claims when talking about the

00:28:58

safety of Armenians on the territory of

00:28:59

Karabak in one of their publications a

00:29:02

long time ago, though 5 or 10 years ago I don’t

00:29:06

remember I wrote that a better guarantee of the

00:29:10

security of the rights of the Armenian population in

00:29:12

Karabakh would be living as an

00:29:15

institution

00:29:18

of Azerbaijanis on the territory of Armenia. That

00:29:21

is, you have, I don’t want to use

00:29:24

hostages, but we trust you with our

00:29:29

citizens of our relatives, I

00:29:32

will return to you

00:29:38

all these years that Armenia held our

00:29:40

lands ours the territory

00:29:45

that he did was very strange, there was a

00:29:50

lot of such

00:29:52

occupation in history, I honestly

00:29:55

don’t remember in history that to seize a

00:29:58

territory and completely

00:29:59

clear it of the population, can you imagine

00:30:03

why such a stunning

00:30:06

defeat happened in 44 days, our army

00:30:10

simply alienated these territories because

00:30:14

that they were empty there was no

00:30:15

civilian population

00:30:21

And now imagine If you lived on these

00:30:25

lands lived

00:30:27

how difficult it was no

00:30:30

longer impossible it would have been impossible to carry out

00:30:33

large-scale artillery

00:30:36

strikes from the air such Russian tanks

00:30:39

would not have turned out

00:30:46

excellent The logic of the occupier also did not

00:30:49

take care of their own

00:30:53

Yes here is one of the

00:30:58

counterarguments of the Armenian side, and to

00:31:01

be more precise, in general, the only

00:31:04

thesis is that the

00:31:07

return of Azerbaijanis to Armenia

00:31:10

is impossible because

00:31:12

the return of Armenians to Baku is impossible,

00:31:17

and so on, and they say, if we even talk about the

00:31:21

return of Azerbaijanis to Armenia, then we

00:31:23

need to talk and about the other Baku

00:31:26

Armenians, which by the way, the speaker of the National Assembly of Armenia Simonyan said the other day, as if

00:31:30

reacting to the speech of Aliyev’s representative. That is, there is an

00:31:38

old cunning on the face here. I don’t even know. Well, okay,

00:31:43

just a cunning attempt to equalize everyone,

00:31:47

I repeat all Azerbaijanis from Armenia

00:31:50

from Armenia Yes with the Armenians is no longer Karabakh.

00:31:55

And from the territory outside of Karabakh, that

00:31:59

is, the Karabakh Armenians cannot be touched, as it were,

00:32:02

this is a kind of

00:32:05

sacred cow, so untouchable Caste.

00:32:08

But on the balance you need to put, you know,

00:32:12

on the one hand the Azerbaijanis Armenia and

00:32:15

on the other the Baku Sumgai and other

00:32:18

Armenians then there is an attempt

00:32:22

to differentiate the general mass of Armenians of

00:32:25

Azerbaijan into the

00:32:27

Untouchables and the Discussed, this is, of course,

00:32:31

from my point of view and not only mine, the

00:32:34

complete is who are the Baku

00:32:38

Samsungarans, these are essentially fragments of the core,

00:32:42

and the core is Karabakh, it was from

00:32:46

Karabakh that many Armenians moved to

00:32:50

large cities, and so the fragments left, but the

00:32:54

Armenian core remained;

00:32:56

at the same time,

00:33:00

absolutely all Azerbaijanis were expelled from the Armenian c, that’s

00:33:03

all of them. Today in Western Azerbaijan there is literally

00:33:06

no core anymore. And

00:33:09

now in Armenia they say the

00:33:12

Armenian core in Karabakh should

00:33:14

remain A priori so by default But

00:33:17

if you want to return your

00:33:20

Azerbaijani core to Armenia,

00:33:22

return and the fragments. What do you think Yerevan is

00:33:27

counting on in general,

00:33:29

trying to consolidate

00:33:31

this

00:33:33

imbalance and how long-lasting it is?

00:33:36

justice in general, I’m silent,

00:33:40

you can mention that the

00:33:46

Armenians themselves considered the Armenians who lived in Azerbaijan

00:33:49

as they called them the joke from here

00:33:52

is Armenian How correct are the changelings

00:33:56

some incorrect renouncers themselves

00:33:59

treated them derogatorily

00:34:02

part of this can be explained by the fact that in Armenia

00:34:06

this very territory there live

00:34:08

many descendants of those who at one time the

00:34:11

Soviet Union from the Middle East so-

00:34:15

called repatriation before

00:34:17

Petrosyan

00:34:24

and these are exactly these near Eastern

00:34:27

Armenia

00:34:30

exchanger they considered the local army

00:34:36

with these Shurtuts to be incorrect and

00:34:38

abstract It was they who were aggressive

00:34:41

towards the Azerbaijanis in Armenia the

00:34:45

anti-Churkian

00:34:47

consciousness of the

00:34:50

Armenians transported resettled from the

00:34:53

Middle East it put very strong

00:34:55

pressure and in the end took over the

00:34:57

public opinion of Armenia, the

00:35:01

peculiar irony of Armenian history is also visible

00:35:04

that the movement for independence

00:35:07

led the so-called

00:35:11

liberation movement and it will end with the end of

00:35:13

complete

00:35:17

dependence

00:35:30

and the shadow ended I became completely

00:35:33

dependent on Russia,

00:35:35

perhaps in the Soviet Union it was even

00:35:37

less dependent on Moscow than now,

00:35:40

this is the irony of history as for

00:35:44

there is such a book called Baku

00:35:46

documents it was published in

00:35:49

19757

00:35:51

[music]

00:35:52

author's historical comments

00:35:55

just a collection of documents the first document

00:35:59

is when the Russians just began

00:36:03

to appear Imperial

00:36:18

reports statistics

00:36:21

composition of the population property economy all

00:36:25

this is a very interesting book

00:36:27

I somehow looked through it I

00:36:32

came across this

00:36:33

report census

00:36:36

at different times the Tsarist government was held

00:36:40

here with us in

00:36:43

1895 for a snack

00:36:46

500

00:36:50

1915 20 already 40 thousand

00:36:54

this cannot be natural

00:37:07

that is, connections I want to remember to mention the

00:37:12

Norwegian professor in

00:37:15

1990 was a special rapporteur

00:37:21

on

00:37:23

ethnic personalities

00:37:25

this is one of the questions that

00:37:28

was put to him there was a question about

00:37:31

What is a people According to international

00:37:34

law, after all, then many people referred,

00:37:36

especially in our conflict, the Armenians

00:37:39

This is the people

00:37:42

one question

00:37:45

[music]

00:37:52

judicial sources of

00:38:01

the state

00:38:04

and Then he moved on to explain What and

00:38:08

who is an ethnic minority

00:38:10

there is pride, you can agree No, I’m

00:38:13

just information

00:38:16

when he even concerns Armenians separately,

00:38:20

he gives an example, for example, Armenians in the USA

00:38:22

or Armenia in France are not an

00:38:25

ethnic substance because they

00:38:28

do not have a connection with their

00:38:29

mother country, this is his term

00:38:38

because they have a connection

00:38:44

[music]

00:38:56

[music]

00:39:03

in Russia somewhere else in

00:39:07

many ways says: Here are ours, when can they be taken

00:39:10

for Armenia somewhere?

00:39:15

They didn’t offend there

00:39:18

because you are a historical mother country. To

00:39:29

tie the question

00:39:32

of the return of Azerbaijan to the

00:39:34

Azerbaijanis in Armenia,

00:39:37

the supposed return of the Armenians alone, is

00:39:42

historically incorrect

00:39:45

in this regard. I allow myself to ask one

00:39:49

very sensitive question which

00:39:52

follows, firstly, from what you just

00:39:54

said

00:39:56

is very This is a private opinion. My

00:40:00

opinion as my own, our entire conversation in

00:40:04

his speech, President Aliyev

00:40:06

quite

00:40:08

rightly noted that

00:40:12

masks in villages on the territory of today’s

00:40:15

Armenia, almost no one lives,

00:40:18

of course the

00:40:20

Armenian side can talk as much as they like

00:40:22

there those

00:40:24

same Baku Armenians were resettled. But this, of course, is

00:40:26

not the case. We all know that very

00:40:30

few Baku Armenians, as you

00:40:32

just noted, moved to Yerevan and

00:40:35

even there they could not integrate

00:40:37

because they were short-class and

00:40:39

went to other Republics of the former

00:40:41

Union or abroad. I even

00:40:44

studied Google Maps via Google map, so I

00:40:48

studied satellite satellite images of

00:40:51

abandoned Azerbaijani villages and

00:40:54

noticed that there are practically no

00:40:57

cars on the streets or in the courtyards, that

00:41:01

is, these villages are empty and in this

00:41:05

regard there is no one for you The question is taking into account the

00:41:08

statement of the

00:41:12

area of

00:41:13

former Azerbaijani villages and in the light of

00:41:17

the phrase repeated by Mr. President

00:41:20

that whoever doesn’t like it in

00:41:24

Azerbaijani Karabakh,

00:41:25

according to Azerbaijani laws, the road

00:41:27

to the exit is open, including under

00:41:29

the awning of RMK trucks. Is it possible

00:41:32

to consider this context how could there

00:41:36

be some hint that the hostile and

00:41:40

irreconcilable Armenians of Karabakh,

00:41:43

in principle, have somewhere to move, that is,

00:41:46

they will not be left without a roof over their heads

00:41:51

exclusively my private interpretation

00:41:56

[music]

00:42:05

please Yes, we always consider

00:42:12

this conflict ours, you and I lived peacefully, we

00:42:15

can continue to live peacefully the conditions for this

00:42:19

Just a couple of things can be called recognition of the

00:42:23

jurisdiction of Azerbaijan over these

00:42:25

territories, acceptance of

00:42:27

Azerbaijani citizenship and

00:42:30

life according to the laws That’s all, and if you

00:42:36

don’t recognize this, then international

00:42:37

law gives you a choice, or, to put it

00:42:41

differently,

00:42:42

Rights No, we don’t have

00:42:53

certain meanings

00:43:06

after all, Armenia always says they say

00:43:09

when they build their discus land,

00:43:14

historical land or any kind of

00:43:19

land, this is a question of civil law, this is an

00:43:23

object of ownership, we are not talking

00:43:26

about land, we are talking about

00:43:27

territory, this is a constitutional

00:43:30

international law question, jurisdiction

00:43:34

is sovereignty if you consider this

00:43:36

land to be yours why did you destroy everything there

00:43:38

if you consider this land to be yours why are

00:43:41

you your neighbors if you consider the land to be

00:43:44

yours Please continue Live on

00:43:47

not Run your own farm Grow

00:43:49

engaged The

00:43:55

land will be your own You will be able to

00:43:57

pass it on to yours by inheritance and

00:44:00

consider it yours in the legal

00:44:02

economic legal sense but

00:44:05

the territory is ours

00:44:07

This is just cognitive dissonance

00:44:10

when you say this to Western politicians

00:44:12

and explain it in a legal manner, they themselves

00:44:14

begin to think, really

00:44:16

because they themselves have plenty of such examples in

00:44:19

their history and even today it is impossible to

00:44:22

problem regions in Europe itself

00:44:24

potential separatism is potentially

00:44:26

developing

00:44:36

if you think this land of theirs, what did

00:44:39

they start in all this, they would live and

00:44:41

pass it on by inheritance

00:44:44

yours are not talking about land we are talking about

00:44:46

territory another category with all

00:44:49

the nooks a different conceptualization of questions

00:44:53

in this Armenia are

00:44:55

bothering themselves with

00:44:58

nothing life As they say teach

00:45:01

dear Thank you for

00:45:05

our today It seems to me that the conversation

00:45:08

turned out to be very interesting And as

00:45:12

they say with initiative I really hope that

00:45:14

you will not refuse us the next

00:45:16

invitations and be sure to accept them

00:45:19

too he is grateful for the offer

00:45:22

to participate in this project

00:45:25

first interview I hope the conversation

00:45:29

turned out to be interesting we will wait for the reaction of the

00:45:33

audience

00:45:35

began Thank you all thank you bye

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