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Hello friends, the sensation of the week of the month of00:00:04
the year is the arrest of the defense of00:00:08
Shoigu Timur Ivanov’s wallet and of course00:00:12
the main women in this case. Therefore, Shershel AFM00:00:15
will help us do00:00:20
Sergei now watch the00:00:23
beauty of the new two of his women00:00:30
that the ex was not even an ex,00:00:33
but the security officers leaked the sun to us for the last 200:00:37
the day is simply fantastic, there is a stream of00:00:40
exclusives and so Timur Ivanov is a00:00:44
beauty Sergei Zhirnov, of course, you also00:00:47
follow the RFA Which of the two do you like better, which of the two is the one that is00:00:53
thin, so to speak, or which Such a lady00:00:55
in those she is 10 years00:00:58
younger is not Which thin one I00:01:01
like better, but I so I understand that the one who is00:01:04
fuller is more businesslike Yes, she is00:01:07
more she is just his main wallet00:01:10
You said this is the00:01:16
Shaigumarov’s wallet,00:01:20
otherwise even according to Russian laws he has to00:01:22
go to prison That’s why everyone has everything00:01:25
registered on his wife on on the driver on on his00:01:28
mother on dad on a dog on a camel00:01:32
there on anyone on on a neighbor's cat00:01:34
That's what they know how to do But this00:01:37
story in general, so to speak It's overblown00:01:40
Frankly speaking, it's all the00:01:46
setting of a major major official here I am about00:01:49
this On the contrary, I think that00:01:51
we should not to be happy and sad00:01:54
because we should be happy if there00:02:00
was a real democratic state in the Russian Federation, a real00:02:02
democratic government would be in the00:02:03
Russian Federation then it would be00:02:05
clear to us that the longer a00:02:07
corrupt official stays in this power, the worse it is00:02:09
for the country for the people for the state in the00:02:12
Putin regime, the more00:02:13
corrupt officials there are in the00:02:16
Putin regime, the better for us00:02:18
because they are plundering the country, they do not allow the00:02:21
Putin regime00:02:23
to earn money for the war. They do not00:02:25
allow the opportunity to set up a normal00:02:28
Ministry of Defense, build a00:02:30
normal army, they steal it all,00:02:31
on the contrary, the arrest of this00:02:33
official is a very00:02:35
big, so to speak,00:02:38
failure for Ukraine, so to speak, because it is00:02:41
still being plundered, it will not be00:02:44
plundered,00:02:45
some effective manager will come00:02:48
who will imprison all the other00:02:50
officials who are involved in corruption,00:02:52
you know corruption. As long as Putin is in00:02:55
power and as long as Putin the00:02:58
more corruption the regime costs, the better off we are.00:03:01
Well, I beg to differ. Let us still be00:03:04
shown this handsome man00:03:06
with two ladies again, because a00:03:08
comparison with the famous00:03:10
Serdyukov, who was a competent,00:03:12
effective manager, made00:03:15
army reforms thanks to which Russia00:03:17
has managed to survive for 2 years, is very tempting to wage war as we00:03:19
know, Serdyukov was fired in 2012, and now00:03:23
Serdyukov has a different Vasilyeva. As you00:03:26
know, she is similar to the one on the00:03:28
right, the one who is acting in00:03:32
China, but let’s talk about it. But the more wasteful one is00:03:36
still the one on the left, the one you00:03:38
like. Eh, Sergei, you’re already quite French00:03:41
You are right, she is such a European lady,00:03:44
she loves Santrope00:03:47
and now she will please the audience. But I00:03:50
will say right away that there will be a lot of smart things on our air00:03:53
and we will still unravel00:03:55
who in this intrigue who imprisoned and00:03:58
in this00:04:00
way some kind of betrayal of the Motherland on the00:04:04
part of this Timur Ivanov because00:04:07
without this Putin would not have given the sanction, but00:04:08
let’s still start with the shershel fam00:04:10
So, that means fifty-year-old Svetlana00:04:13
Zakharova, the current wife00:04:17
in just the year, it’s a coincidence that the year of00:04:20
Serdyukov’s resignation was featured in Tatler,00:04:23
she was not yet married to Ivanov, but00:04:26
she is already she was well off, her00:04:28
previous husband is also a cool oligarch, she has two00:04:30
children, and now she tells us in Tatler00:04:33
what outfits a girl should buy,00:04:35
write down girls, take a pen and00:04:38
write My name is Svetlana Zakharova,00:04:40
today together with tatler TV I will be00:04:42
conducting an excursion into the world of evening fashion00:04:45
and this excursion is me I will use the00:04:47
example of my own evening00:04:48
wardrobe. This dress is one of the first00:04:51
dresses in my collection, it is about 1500:04:53
years old, its author is Tiri Mugler and I consider it00:04:56
relevant to this day because the shapes00:04:58
that Tiri Mugler makes were00:05:00
Unique and I would certainly like it00:05:02
this designer has returned to fashion, maybe00:05:04
one of the fashion houses will hire him00:05:06
because since he did the00:05:08
female figure, no00:05:12
one did it Sergey, she’s right, really00:05:15
no one in France knows how to do the female00:05:18
figure Yes, in France, really00:05:21
no one knows how to do it, it’s a terrible country in general00:05:24
[ __ ] completely remember how in the00:05:26
diamond hand at the All-Russian00:05:29
competition where it was in00:05:32
some Ukrainian small00:05:34
town, so remember when there00:05:38
was an All-Russian fashion competition But00:05:42
this is all of course a designer in Russia in the00:05:45
Russian Federation there may be00:05:46
good ones Why why not you00:05:48
know how is it that custom00:05:50
tailoring costs crazy money there? If00:05:53
you pay crazy money, then you00:05:56
can find a fashion designer anywhere in00:05:57
any country, in Italy, France, in00:06:00
Japan. Maybe in the United States of00:06:01
America there are also fashion designers there, but in00:06:03
Russia there were some good00:06:06
custom sewing designers OK, another thing is that00:06:08
you go into a store and00:06:11
buy shoes from the company Skorokhod, which means and00:06:15
Bolshevik means from the Bolshevik costume,00:06:18
which is absolutely creepy, absolutely,00:06:21
and this is again on an individual00:06:24
basis, you know in the second section of GUM in00:06:27
Brezhnev’s time you could00:06:29
buy everything for foreign currency and on you could buy it even with rubles.00:06:31
And there everything was fine,00:06:33
everything was fine and there was absolutely everything00:06:35
imported, there was nothing00:06:37
domestic there, at worst,00:06:40
everything was Yugoslavian, and at best,00:06:41
Austrian German, Italian, and00:06:44
so on, so on an individual00:06:46
basis in the Russian Federation it00:06:48
was always possible to buy everything Sergei I wanted to00:06:51
hear psychology from you, you know,00:06:53
she looks French to you now00:06:56
before answering this question00:06:58
a selection of her Incredible00:07:01
[ __ ] in half the cases she is with Mur00:07:03
Ivanov who when he is without odds he00:07:06
generally looks00:07:07
so, in my opinion, it’s not at all French, he00:07:10
looks like this, to say some kind of00:07:12
provincial of some Asian country. But here00:07:14
she is, I want to look at it, so to speak, so00:07:18
that you can tell through the eyes of a Frenchman whether00:07:20
she is stylish or not. Yes, she00:07:25
knows how,00:07:28
and so on, or after all, this is00:07:31
some kind of Courchevel something like that00:07:33
and she loved it, so to speak, here is a photo where00:07:36
she is generally quite strong Yes, here00:07:46
two children and they are00:07:50
now00:07:52
grown up, in my opinion, he left to study in London 300:07:55
days before mobilization, that is, his dad00:07:57
told him that in the twenty-second year, so this is00:08:00
in JQ Man of the Year00:08:02
2009, it’s strange why she’s already with this00:08:05
Ivanov, it’s not clear what year it’s00:08:09
endless number of socialites and I00:08:11
have to tell you one important nuance about her,00:08:13
it means that when00:08:15
she was in search, that is, between two00:08:18
husbands,00:08:20
Timur Ivanov started an affair with her. Yes,00:08:24
this will come in handy in Santrope. The villa00:08:26
where they vacationed. Oh, God, how many00:08:29
photos, so here’s the leading husband, that’s all -00:08:31
all these pictures Well, it’s00:08:34
bad taste or she’s00:08:36
learned it after all, but no, she looks quite00:08:40
decent, so to speak, I won’t say that00:08:42
she looks like a provincial from00:08:45
some kind of Siberia But she has something00:08:47
else provincial That is, she’s quite00:08:49
pretty a lady if you dress her There00:08:51
and so on That is, when by the way they are a00:08:54
family photograph with children when they are00:08:56
in formal suits this is quite a00:08:58
bourgeois photograph of a00:09:01
middle class family of bourgeois French00:09:05
German Austrian English00:09:07
whatever, but then when she00:09:09
walks there in fur coats all of this here or there in00:09:11
miniskirts, this photo is00:09:13
quite bourgeois. Looks quite good00:09:15
here. Any decent family00:09:18
that earns money and has children looks quite good. That’s00:09:20
how they00:09:22
take pictures. That’s another matter, completely00:09:24
different. That’s her provincialism. ZM manifests itself00:09:28
in these photographer that’s when they00:09:30
start showing off their00:09:32
wealth because, strictly speaking, in00:09:36
bourgeois society in the West it’s not00:09:38
customary to show off wealth at all.00:09:40
It’s just Rishis, it’s just people00:09:42
who from rags to riches,00:09:44
they just had nothing And suddenly00:09:47
they made money And then they start00:09:49
showing how they have everything in gold, how00:09:51
they have everything on red carpets. What00:09:54
wonderful interiors they have there, how all this is,00:09:56
Trump is the same absolutely absolutely00:09:59
tasteless, absolutely boorish. So he00:10:04
shows off all sorts of his family there00:10:07
because, in general, he’s rude speaking of people00:10:09
who have money, they don’t have to00:10:12
show anything to anyone, so to00:10:14
speak, there are special magazines that00:10:17
take photographs. But these magazines,00:10:20
again, are for a certain number of a00:10:22
certain type of people, because let’s00:10:24
put it this way: Well, the average Frenchman is00:10:27
not interested in this; he is not00:10:29
interested at all, so such a demonstration of one’s00:10:31
own wealth is, in general,00:10:34
manifested in this beku and not in00:10:37
what they are dressed in because they are dressed00:10:39
quite00:10:40
decently and now we will look at00:10:43
the sacramental00:10:59
until June 23,00:11:03
2024, this is really necessary One more time00:11:06
Yes, yes, yes, listen here This video00:11:09
surprised me a little today and this00:11:12
photo that was taken from this00:11:13
video is a screenshot that I saw even before00:11:15
this, it really surprised me00:11:18
because you know in Soviet times when00:11:20
some military thief was00:11:22
imprisoned, the first thing that happened to him was they00:11:26
tore off his shoulder straps because00:11:30
if a person like this, an army general,00:11:33
stands in court and is shown, then they00:11:37
actually humiliate the army and not00:11:39
this person himself because he is all00:11:44
hung up in his official uniform.00:11:47
Usually, on the contrary, usually in Soviet times,00:11:49
you know how at first everything was removed and00:11:51
expelled from the Party. But then the00:11:53
trial began so that it was impossible to judge a00:11:56
party member; it was impossible to judge an00:11:57
official in the ST position, and this is a00:12:01
rather curious thing because00:12:04
here, of course, you can see that this is a raid00:12:07
by the special service or some kind of Kremlin tower the00:12:11
Shaigumars00:12:29
are multiplying,00:12:30
but I’ll start with the most absurd one, which00:12:34
was said yesterday shortly after the00:12:36
arrest that Ivanov somehow00:12:40
encroached on Prigozhin’s inheritance in00:12:42
Africa, they wanted to prepare him and it means they gave him a hand00:12:45
on the hands of a competing company, it was00:12:48
just a joke I just looked it up,00:12:50
I think o they avert their eyes, they are trying to00:12:52
create a false Legend, so to speak, but00:12:55
because no one will believe the Legend that he was simply00:12:57
arrested for theft, yes But00:13:00
before we start talking about this, so to00:13:02
speak, one more Trish00:13:05
rolls-royce but not just rolls-royce but00:13:08
They rented an antique Rolls-Royce00:13:10
and now they will show me00:13:13
some photos, well, we00:13:15
’ll start. Ivanov shows Shoigu where to00:13:18
go in a Rolls Rossi. Where is the best place to00:13:19
relax in Santrop this summer? Yes, you see,00:13:22
his wife put on a cap and decided not to00:13:26
get burned, but here she is I couldn’t stand it, I00:13:29
still smiled Yes, so to speak,00:13:31
you can see that he has an antique handle there,00:13:34
well, it’s not a fashionable car, but00:13:38
I don’t know if the French drive00:13:41
cars like that, much less if they rent them.00:13:43
Still, you’re telling them taste doesn’t00:13:46
change Well, Lord, well, why do you need a Rolls-Royce?00:13:51
Sergey No, well, we rent cars like this00:13:54
when they organize some kind of weddings,00:13:56
when they organize celebrations, I00:13:58
regularly see such cars, even white ones, so00:14:00
long, long,00:14:03
you know, special VIP cars in which00:14:06
the Chinese go to film under the Eiffel00:14:08
Tower, which means they do photo shoots. So00:14:11
she’s all in white, he’s all in black and00:14:14
in this car. They drive up and then00:14:16
in their China they show it00:14:18
all how it happens, or the Indians do it here,00:14:20
or the Americans in general. Well, the00:14:23
French This also happens00:14:25
for a wedding, but for a wedding, by the way, when00:14:29
you take a photo of some kind of retro retro car,00:14:32
some beautiful one, this one, this one, the00:14:37
Phantomas, or something like00:14:40
that, or some kind of00:14:42
Convertible there, I don’t know the thirties the00:14:44
twenties of the last century00:14:47
That is, that’s why yes, that’s why00:14:50
it exists and that’s why there is,00:14:51
of course, car rental, that is,00:14:54
rental in itself is In general, everything that we00:14:56
are showing in itself may well00:14:59
be in the West, another thing is that I00:15:02
remind you that this man is a00:15:04
senior official in the Ministry of Defense,00:15:06
he is generally prohibited from leaving countries in NATO countries,00:15:10
strictly speaking,00:15:12
he should have been like in Soviet times, because00:15:14
there he could be recruited,00:15:16
some secrets could be stolen from his00:15:18
phone there and so on, they can00:15:20
photograph him, they can compromising him, they00:15:23
can make it there, I don’t even know, well, I do00:15:25
n’t even know, they can even steal, torture there and00:15:27
take out some secrets from him. That is,00:15:30
how this is possible is completely incomprehensible to me, how00:15:32
under the Putin regime, which00:15:34
prohibits00:15:35
people there Now there are officials there, by the way,00:15:38
they woke up and say that00:15:39
officials are now prohibited from traveling00:15:41
abroad, which, by the way, is completely logical.00:15:43
Because people who own00:15:45
state secrets are forbidden to00:15:47
go on holiday like that to France00:15:49
to relax because you never know00:15:51
what kind of champagne and what he will drink there he00:15:52
will begin to tell some secrets00:15:54
under this very champagne. This is00:15:56
amazing,00:16:00
this is really from the Motherland and that the arrest00:16:05
could only be00:16:09
sanctions, which means that the00:16:16
caps were the first to be00:16:27
here yesterday and covered him. What kind of00:16:30
feeling did you have? Maybe today it00:16:33
has changed.00:16:35
And the arrest is like this Of course, Putin’s sanctions, without00:16:38
Putin’s sanctions, such an00:16:40
arrest could not have happened. And if it00:16:43
had happened on some initiative, either the00:16:45
Investigative Committee or the FSB, they would have been00:16:48
given a slap on the wrist immediately. No,00:16:51
of course, such an arrest is sanctioned,00:16:53
and it happened quite curiously00:16:57
because yesterday there were colleagues, first00:16:59
there was a meeting of the board of the Ministry of00:17:01
Defense where he was present Yes, and there was00:17:04
Shaigovo, and immediately after that when he00:17:06
left With this board here they took him00:17:08
under White handbrake This is a rather strange00:17:10
thing in general in the Putin regime,00:17:12
some strange things are happening00:17:14
lately, because usually00:17:16
a person If they receive some kind of00:17:19
sanction there, they usually don’t let him go00:17:21
to the collegium. If he had not appeared00:17:23
at the collegium, then this would have been the first,00:17:26
first message that he was being prepared to be00:17:28
hired or it was a trick such a00:17:30
tactical trick by the investigative authorities.00:17:33
Because if, so to speak, they would have taken him00:17:35
to the board, maybe he00:17:37
would have started hiding something, some00:17:39
documents there. And so he relaxed, he came. So00:17:41
he realized at the meeting that00:17:43
everything was fine with him, that he was in chocolate all in00:17:46
the light As they said in Banditsky in the00:17:49
Bandit lexicon in Soviet times, and00:17:51
therefore maybe he didn’t00:17:54
hide anything there And in general, he was in00:17:57
absolute relaxation, by the way, this is also one00:17:59
of the tricks of the investigation when they take you00:18:03
when everything is fine with you, that’s when I00:18:05
don’t know, there, first Putin receives you00:18:08
in the Kremlin and you think, Well, everything00:18:10
is fine. You see, the head00:18:12
of state received me there, so now they will give you an order.00:18:14
Now maybe some kind of star, but00:18:16
he won’t be given a star any more than an00:18:18
army general in Peacetime.00:18:21
maybe they can’t even give a Marshal there, for00:18:23
this they need a war to get a Marshal00:18:25
they can’t even give a Marshal a step, that’s why00:18:28
they won’t give any more stars,00:18:31
but they can hang another order there, write00:18:33
out some kind of00:18:35
bonus, maybe write out some kind of00:18:37
state dacha some extra00:18:39
vacation, some money, and so on, and so00:18:42
he relaxes, of course. This is00:18:44
one of the options. By the way, such an arrest00:18:47
because then the person is shocked00:18:52
that he was arrested, much more00:18:54
shocked than if around him, if00:18:56
you can imagine, let’s say she00:18:59
followed him there for weeks If the FSB outdoors was so00:19:01
demonstrative and he would see it and He would00:19:04
begin to tense up, he would begin to understand00:19:06
He would begin to hide there, maybe00:19:08
destroy some00:19:10
documents, take out some00:19:12
antiques, hide money, transfer money from00:19:15
his accounts money somewhere and so00:19:16
on And so he is absolutely relaxed,00:19:19
right there is a meeting of the board and in the prison.00:19:23
This, of course, is a trick of the investigation00:19:25
who wants to immediately get00:19:28
confessions of confession.00:19:32
And I want them to show us now the00:19:34
next selection of photographs of very00:19:37
Nazi caps. Well, he’s just a00:19:39
man he really really loves this00:19:42
style, so to speak, behind him there is an ordinary one,00:19:45
so to speak. Now we will see. Yes,00:19:48
but the ordinary caps are ordinary, so to speak. The00:19:51
Russian uniform is more less, and this is00:19:53
just broken up, so this is his00:19:55
most important official photo, this is00:19:59
no such thing, this is a cap something surprises me00:20:02
Well, really Well, that’s how I see it in her, you00:20:05
look, here she is the main person Here she is,00:20:07
life is a success when the00:20:10
smile of this fat cat00:20:14
comes out for the first time, so to speak, in all00:20:17
the photographs he, in principle, holds his face Yes00:20:19
And let us scroll further when the00:20:21
previous one comes out, so to speak, this is00:20:23
where this is from under the caps of a fat cat, it’s00:20:26
not for nothing that I00:20:29
chose this photo, all of him, by two00:20:31
women who, so to speak,00:20:33
will still be useful to us this time on this broadcast, but I kept00:20:37
waiting for you to say that this is strange00:20:39
the arrest coincided with the loud announcement00:20:43
by the Americans that we were giving Ukraine 6000:20:45
billion in money and we were handing over the eco-friendly missiles, and we weren’t just00:20:49
handing over these long-range rockets, but we’d been giving them for 200:20:51
months already, and last week they fired00:20:54
and bombed the Dzhankoy airfield.00:20:57
Apparently, they didn’t just bomb the eco-friendly ones themselves00:20:59
airfield and S3 air defense systems, in00:21:03
principle, Russia often uses for00:21:05
attack, but in principle they are also intended for defense.00:21:07
And so I thought that00:21:10
you would somehow connect these things, so to speak, do00:21:12
you think it’s just a complete00:21:16
coincidence? No, this is not a coincidence, and00:21:18
here it is It doesn’t00:21:20
surprise me at all, because it’s just a00:21:22
distraction to a worthless object, because00:21:25
this thing was launched by the00:21:26
media, and actively so that00:21:29
everyone would forget that the00:21:30
Americans just issued a00:21:33
huge package to the Ukrainians because it00:21:35
was of course huge for the Russians an00:21:38
image blow a blow to Putin because00:21:41
they were all relaxed, they all believed that00:21:42
Trump was already there, so he had done his00:21:45
job, he would soon be elected and they would00:21:48
force Ukraine to surrender. What00:21:51
if the Trumpists backed down and00:21:55
voted for an aid package unexpectedly00:21:57
completely and this is this arrest he00:22:01
on the contrary, it is intended to make everyone00:22:03
forget about the fact that the Americans allocated00:22:05
help, that help is coming to the front00:22:07
because this is such a high-profile case. Yes,00:22:09
such an arrest has not happened for a long time, this is going on00:22:11
all over the media and00:22:14
instead of discussing what kind of00:22:15
missiles are coming to Ukraine, everyone they are discussing00:22:18
this very Ivanov, by the way, I00:22:20
must tell you that he is not a00:22:22
military man, he is not a general at all.00:22:24
This is a person who was simply involved in00:22:27
management at a00:22:29
fairly high level in the tech.00:22:32
Then the Ministry of Defense came from there00:22:34
and that means he was involved in00:22:37
Basically, he was engaged in theft,00:22:38
ensuring the construction of00:22:41
some kind of logistics, and so on. That00:22:43
is, he is absolutely not a military man; what they00:22:45
gave him was a big, big star of an00:22:48
Army General; this, strictly speaking, is a spit in the face of00:22:52
all the military men who graduated first from a00:22:54
military school, then from the Academy, then from the00:22:57
General Staff Academy who served,00:22:59
who were somewhere out there running along the fronts with00:23:01
bullets whistling. He never00:23:04
heard a whistle of bullets or anything at all. That is, he is00:23:06
absolutely not a military man. That is why he,00:23:09
so to speak, looks like a00:23:12
kind of peacock who wears a military00:23:15
uniform because he is in general he wears it00:23:17
completely undeservedly because in00:23:20
his position in another country in a00:23:22
normal country somewhere in France00:23:24
or in Great Britain in the00:23:26
United States of America an00:23:29
ordinary civilian person would work in general. A00:23:30
civilian. He00:23:35
has nothing to do with military service and But before I say00:23:40
the version and the explanation that00:23:43
seems to me Now the most plausible and00:23:45
it’s not mine, I’m not so smart and00:23:47
sophisticated as to compose and00:23:49
come up with it. We’ll still play the00:23:52
game sheshel afm again and that means the Telegram00:23:55
channel of the VChK UGPU is near to certain00:23:59
structures of the FSB he threw yesterday00:24:04
that now Timur Ivanov lives with Maria00:24:08
Kitaeva, this is his current official,00:24:12
not official And you see she00:24:14
worked on the Russian channel as the host of the program Serving00:24:17
the Fatherland, then she was personally noticed by00:24:27
Shaigumarov, the title of General, everyone was00:24:29
completely stunned. I also can’t00:24:32
understand how to get a General, bypassing00:24:34
all any positions at all. Maybe there00:24:35
are some special ones. But now she is00:24:38
39 years old, you understand, and she is no longer with the00:24:43
Shaigumarovs00:24:49
and Kitayeva. Well, somewhere it will be. No, you00:24:52
understand, that is, well done,00:24:55
someone Shaigumarov00:24:58
Yes, and now, so to speak, Of course,00:25:01
there is no photograph of Ivanov with Kitayeva, but00:25:04
the security officers write to us from morning to evening about00:25:07
Maria China that she is missing. What is she00:25:10
first of all, that means they are reporting that00:25:15
Timur Ivanov’s current life partner is limited00:25:19
in contacts with her; no on the phone; She doesn’t00:25:21
answer but she wasn’t arrested, they00:25:23
said it directly, shortly after the arrest,00:25:25
without even mentioning her last name, then apparently they00:25:28
agreed with someone, discussed whether it’s possible to00:25:30
make the last name public, and they made the last name public, and00:25:33
then, naturally, everyone started googling Who is00:25:35
she? So this is the general’s wife at 2900:25:39
years old, so this is assistant to the step Well, so to00:25:42
speak, with such advantages, so00:25:44
Well, let's discuss the girls before we00:25:47
move on to the serious00:25:49
part, well, you know Well, okay,00:25:54
so, well, at the age of 29 they gave her a general's00:25:56
uniform, which means this is a new new knowledge in the00:25:58
Russian new knowledge in the Russian00:26:00
army, which means it shows a beautiful girl00:26:03
wearing a General uniform, she does00:26:05
n’t act as a Deputy00:26:09
Minister of Defense, she is there, it means she00:26:13
works for the press service, she tells00:26:15
some things on behalf of the Ministry of00:26:18
Defense It’s quite image-bearing, it’s all00:26:21
normal You know, in fact, a00:26:23
much more interesting more interesting00:26:25
version and which I would like00:26:27
to discuss with you is not these all sorts of00:26:29
little [ __ ] who are given00:26:32
general's shoulder straps, but what00:26:34
Vladimir Osechkin said, he had a00:26:38
big broadcast at Latynina's where he said00:26:40
that this Ivanov is00:26:43
not even accused of corruption there Because00:26:45
if you accuse someone of corruption, then in the00:26:47
Putin regime you have to remove everyone00:26:49
simply because they are all00:26:50
corrupt, there are no corrupt00:26:52
people there, and Usha Shaigumarov is in the00:26:58
tenth grade and bought an apartment there for 10 million,00:27:00
and my daughter was there for 17 years.00:27:03
That’s the first time and then she00:27:06
made farms and then she manages companies worth billions of00:27:08
rubles, which means some snotty00:27:11
girl means she makes contracts with00:27:13
the Ministry of Defense, it’s clear that they are00:27:15
absolutely all corrupt,00:27:18
all corrupt, all thieves, all swindlers. But00:27:21
what Vladimir Oselki said is00:27:23
much more an interesting thing because it looks00:27:24
like high treason is being sewn on him00:27:27
because then when he provided00:27:29
security and supplies and, so to speak,00:27:33
Repair of all sorts of objects, he provided00:27:36
including repairs and supplies of objects of the00:27:38
twelfth Main Directorate of the00:27:39
Ministry of Defense and the twelfth heads of00:27:42
the Ministry of Defense are the nuclear forces,00:27:44
that’s right there where did you serve Gleb this is00:27:48
yours this Simferopol is yours or someone00:27:51
whatever you had there means a00:27:54
nuclear weapons storage facility in Crimea This is the Armed00:27:56
Forces subordinate to them this And there it means these00:28:00
storage facilities are super secret no one00:28:02
should know what money goes in how they00:28:06
are serviced how they are being repaired and00:28:08
so on, and Osechkin said that00:28:10
this Ivanov, he told all these things,00:28:13
that a document appeared where it means00:28:16
300,300 objects of the twelfth headquarters00:28:20
were leaked to everyone,00:28:28
in fact, now everyone knows where to hit, if00:28:30
anything happens, Putin is scaring everyone there, which00:28:33
means with nuclear weapons and this is like a00:28:36
much more serious thing and like00:28:38
this is why he was arrested and not because he00:28:40
simply stole or appointed his00:28:42
mistress there as a general at the age of 28 and00:28:46
Sergey Yes, I heard this version of Volodya00:28:49
Osechkin, but I thought the00:28:51
version of squirrels was more convincing, he said00:28:54
the following that the betrayal was00:28:58
that Ivanov was building new objects in00:29:02
Mariupol, which was00:29:03
destroyed at four ends, or maybe00:29:07
two were a rollback, and the second was the real00:29:09
cost of the object, and there were four,00:29:11
and in order to hide this00:29:14
fantastic amount of theft,00:29:17
information about new objects was leaked to the armed00:29:20
forces of Ukraine and they struck00:29:22
where they needed to hop and here we built the ends into the water00:29:24
for 4 rubles. Yes, they bombed everything00:29:28
and the FSB officers tracked this and you00:29:31
know why this version seems00:29:32
more likely to me because00:29:34
here there are, like, strategic missile forces,00:29:37
well the secret00:29:40
was sewn, all these points, all these Mines.00:29:43
It seems to me that since the early 1900s all the00:29:45
maps have been drawn by the Americans, they00:29:48
know everything and for Ivanov there is no motivation to00:29:51
drain the Americans with these kind of00:29:53
missile00:29:54
forces for money, his00:29:58
profile Yes And this is for me personally seems00:30:01
convincing, but I still00:30:04
You know, when I spoke about00:30:07
Osechkin’s version that he leaked00:30:10
some state00:30:12
secrets, Osechkin himself stipulated that this00:30:15
was not on purpose. That is, he was clearly not00:30:16
recruited by the Americans and they were not00:30:19
going to him there to steal these00:30:21
secrets. That is, he didn’t.00:30:23
Betrayal, it was just stupidity.00:30:25
Yes, you see, because instead00:30:27
of keeping some secrets, he00:30:30
began to leak the whole thing quite00:30:32
publicly and thus00:30:34
leaked it in addition to himself. I agree with you that the main thing00:30:37
the thing of course is that he did it, he was00:30:39
engaged in stealing00:30:43
the scheme, that is, here is the scheme that you00:30:45
told me. This is wonderful because in00:30:47
general, during the war, God himself ordered00:30:49
something to be built and then highmore flies there,00:30:51
everything again means they were bombed, but00:30:54
no one knows at what level you00:30:56
built That is, you can tell00:30:58
that you built at a level of00:31:00
100%, in fact you built at a00:31:02
level of 5% and, accordingly, 85% of the difference,00:31:06
this means it goes into your pocket and if you are00:31:08
there Share You can even share00:31:11
this money with the Ukrainian side Yes,00:31:13
because their highs come to you,00:31:16
and so on. There was also another scheme.00:31:19
There was also a scheme such that they built00:31:22
some objects, they recruited some pretty00:31:24
decent people. Quite decent,00:31:27
according to the competition,00:31:28
these people were paid something like 15% there.00:31:31
with a deposit, they won some kind of competition,00:31:33
then they themselves began to take out00:31:35
loans because that means they have an army.00:31:38
So they signed a big contract,00:31:40
they were all happy, the banks gave them00:31:42
loans, they started building something there, building it00:31:44
up to the level of 80 85% and then they were00:31:48
imprisoned And they said that they stole everything there.00:31:51
And then the most profitable thing,00:31:54
again in this version, says that the most00:31:57
profitable thing is not to build an object, but to complete the construction of00:31:59
the object when someone there has00:32:03
built something before you. And then you start to00:32:05
complete the construction because this is where00:32:07
thefts take place. even more because no one00:32:09
can prove at what level what was00:32:11
built and that is, when the object was00:32:13
actually built there almost00:32:15
8085 90% And you say that no, everything is from00:32:19
scratch, everything needs to be done again, everything00:32:22
was stolen and like Let’s highlight00:32:24
again, new money, that is, there were a huge number of00:32:26
theft schemes in this00:32:28
Ministry of Defense,00:32:30
plus I will remind you that this00:32:32
same Timur Ivanov, he also oversaw00:32:35
Spetsstroy, that is, the main00:32:37
main contractor of the Ministry of Defense00:32:40
which deals with all00:32:43
strategic objects and Spetsstroy built and00:32:46
Vostochny cosmodrome and in this00:32:48
Vostochny cosmodrome Absolutely the entire leadership is being transplanted there00:32:50
because00:32:52
everything was stolen there too And in general,00:32:54
when there is a war, you can steal00:32:56
billions of Abso00:33:04
Beka I want to move on00:33:08
to now is Well, the most important00:33:11
Russian journalist Let's call00:33:14
her now, yesterday she released Vue a series of the00:33:18
famous film about the wild nineties00:33:21
is a challenge for everyone who lived in the Deno00:33:29
b zhurnali quality it is incredibly00:33:34
convincing The figure is also why I, so to00:33:37
speak,00:33:42
bow to something Our connection is broken00:33:45
a little Do you remember what you did when00:33:48
Putin’s army was erased from the land of00:33:51
Mariupol in March almost completely00:33:54
destroyed city under the collapse of the00:33:56
drama theater, our heroine00:34:00
landed at the Paris airport that day, she00:34:02
went straight from the plane to the center of00:34:04
Place Vendôme, house 7, here are the00:34:06
best hotels and the most expensive boutiques. But00:34:09
even among them there is a special jewelry00:34:11
store that does not have a sign or display00:34:13
Here you can come only by personal00:34:15
invitation from the owner Joeli Arthur00:34:18
Rosenthal is called the Fabergé of our00:34:19
time the price of his jewelry is estimated in00:34:22
hundreds of thousands and millions of euros our00:34:24
heroine come here to make00:34:26
another purchase00:34:32
yes Well, we’re back to the00:34:34
discussion again It’s amazing how as00:34:36
soon as this deputy minister of00:34:38
defense is arrested everything immediately it immediately became00:34:46
necessary Yes, but by the way, we discussed this00:34:49
once, even last year, because00:34:51
about this same wife of his who went to00:34:55
Courchevel, by the way, during the war, yes,00:34:57
they said that she was Madame Abrams Yes, because00:35:00
she had earrings hanging in each ear00:35:04
each one cost 10 million dollars So00:35:06
he has two, she has two American Abrams tanks00:35:09
hanging in her ears. That’s the fact that00:35:11
she spent a lot of money there or he00:35:14
spent a lot of money on her on his00:35:15
jewelry, there’s nothing new here, by the way, there’s00:35:22
absolutely nothing. What is your feeling now from00:35:26
here? FBK's actions without Navalny are00:35:29
a little off topic, but it's00:35:31
so important now Sergei that here you00:35:33
and I are, after all, Well, we're worried What00:35:35
happened to Russia in the nineties, you00:35:37
left immediately after the end of the00:35:39
nineties But I see another 20 years about00:35:43
Woland so to speak, you are completely00:35:45
Solidarity of the singers or do you also think00:35:47
that well, in vain she is00:35:49
so no, I absolutely completely agree00:35:52
with the singers And what she says I have been saying for00:35:55
25 years and have been writing for 5 years in00:35:58
my blogs and in my articles and then00:36:01
already in the interview I say in this sense there is00:36:05
absolutely nothing for me there,00:36:09
in short, I was there for a piece of my life,00:36:14
and even participated in some00:36:17
things there, but because in ninety-00:36:20
five and ninety-six until 2000, I00:36:22
worked with a medical center management of00:36:24
the President's affairs and during the very00:36:27
elections of '96 I worked00:36:29
in Switzerland at a Swiss clinic and00:36:31
knew very well that Yeltsin had a00:36:34
heartache and knew that he had heart attacks there and00:36:37
when he disappeared there was a behind-the-scenes story00:36:40
about having an00:36:41
operation on him in Switzerland on the heart During00:36:44
this election campaign, that is,00:36:46
in this sense, I know everything about Volodya00:36:48
Patani, we then went skiing with him00:36:51
in Courchevel, when he was00:36:53
deputy prime minister and Koch was there and all00:36:56
these people were and wa00:36:58
I by the way knew even before there from the00:37:00
year eighty-eight, when he was still head of the00:37:02
letters department in the fire. And I worked with the short man00:37:06
in those days when the future one was00:37:09
still a KGB spy. So in this sense, there is00:37:12
nothing new for me in this film,00:37:14
for me there is nothing new at all it00:37:16
just reminded me of such nostalgia, I00:37:19
watched it with great pleasure, both the00:37:20
first and second episodes because in general00:37:22
it is such nostalgia for my own00:37:25
story, I knew it all perfectly well00:37:28
from the inside, well, that is, not not not completely,00:37:31
maybe all the details but in this the film00:37:33
has nothing new for me personally and therefore00:37:35
it didn’t surprise me at all. I’m not at all surprised.00:37:38
By the way, I’m surprised that someone was surprised by00:37:41
what was told in this film00:37:43
because in general it seemed to me that it was00:37:45
absolutely accessible to all people who had00:37:49
once been involved in then, by research and00:37:50
reflection simply on Yeltsin,00:37:53
they knew absolutely that the problems began00:37:56
already with the shooting of the parliament. Although of course it00:38:00
was clear that this parliament was00:38:01
almost like a fascist00:38:05
Soviet Communist And that if00:38:07
it had not been shot then maybe there would have been00:38:09
some kind of dictatorship came back00:38:11
But in any case, even then, by the way,00:38:14
I actually had my own00:38:16
experience because one of the very famous00:38:21
French journalists Michel00:38:23
kneestriya came then to cover these elections00:38:27
and in 1993, so I went with him,00:38:30
I was such an accompanying00:38:32
translator there the person who is00:38:35
in charge and I already had an00:38:38
article even in several newspapers00:38:41
published even in Russian printed materials00:38:44
where I said that in general the00:38:45
shooting of parliament is not the most00:38:47
Democratic thing that00:38:49
Yeltsin could afford, and then00:38:51
just, well, the elections of '96 year00:38:53
that they were fake all this,00:38:55
again, everyone knew Well, all this here is nothing00:38:58
new, this film, strictly speaking, it is00:39:01
not for you and me, it is not for our00:39:03
generation who knew all this,00:39:05
experienced all this and knew all this down to the details, it is00:39:07
for for young people who didn’t know any of this,00:39:10
who now, in this way,00:39:12
it opens it up for those who are00:39:14
now there, I don’t know there, 15 20 25 30 years old,00:39:18
who were practically born under Putin,00:39:20
or let’s say, born under Yeltsin,00:39:23
raised under Putin, so they did00:39:25
n’t know anything about it Maybe they didn’t read it Although,00:39:27
again, all this is in the public domain,00:39:29
there are all these investigations, and I’m00:39:32
surprised that this film caused such a00:39:35
reaction. But on the other hand, it’s clear that00:39:37
all the people who are participants in this00:39:40
process. Well, with the exception of Yeltsin, there are00:39:42
a few more people, they’re all they are00:39:45
all alive by the way,00:39:47
their life was quite successful and all the oligarchs are00:39:51
sitting in their own places, someone00:39:55
who has already served time like Khodorkovsky has already left and00:39:58
left, well, they killed someone, Navalny was00:40:01
killed, well, here is the person who00:40:03
investigated these cases, and here are the participants that00:40:05
's all, Chubais left for a wonderful life00:40:08
in Israel there and he lives on his00:40:11
millions of earnings earned00:40:13
during this very period and no one is00:40:15
going to look for him anywhere there, but00:40:17
in the near future, at least they00:40:19
gave him absolutely peace of mind00:40:21
there either a visa for residence or even00:40:23
citizenship, so in this sense I do00:40:26
n’t understand the00:40:28
severity of the criticism Except for those people who were00:40:31
simply taken and00:40:34
taken out into the sun again by the ear and shown what they00:40:37
did in the nineties Although in00:40:38
general there is nothing new here mine00:40:41
Sergei's point of view, you know, they didn't00:40:43
show me, but they showed me the newspaper, God forbid,00:40:46
which was published by the00:40:48
Kommersant publishing house in the next year and I00:40:50
worked very actively in it, all the reports were00:40:52
mine and the nobles, we performed00:40:56
feats as journalists, penetrated00:40:58
Zyuganov's plenum, it was closed and there were00:41:01
journalists there They didn’t let me in, I let00:41:03
seven people in there with money, and the reward for00:41:06
whoever got in was00:41:08
$1,000, and the guy00:41:09
I hired00:41:11
literally a month before got in, he was a00:41:12
subway driver. That is, he apparently00:41:14
went through face control, so Proletarsky00:41:16
Yes and he there, so to speak, told the world00:41:19
that in fact the communists are discussing00:41:21
among themselves, they discussed that of course00:41:24
we will take away private property,00:41:27
of course we will stir up all the results of00:41:30
privatization in a new way, and this00:41:33
scared me sincerely and all the people00:41:35
who are for capitalism, this scared me00:41:37
sincerely, that’s why we fought for it00:41:39
I sincerely don’t regret anything, and so00:41:41
to speak, this film from the year ninety-six,00:41:42
which has now been released in it That’s it,00:41:44
so to speak Here’s my position Here’s what I00:41:47
personally For example, I’m dissatisfied with the second,00:41:49
they say about the year ninety-six, which00:41:50
means it was either Zyuganov or Yeltsin and00:41:53
between this dilemma So the whole00:41:55
struggle didn’t tell us the most important thing,00:41:57
that And why not Nemtsov And why did00:42:01
n’t you suggest anything else that the truth is that there is no one, that’s the00:42:03
most important thing Who is00:42:05
nominating presidential candidates is not00:42:07
the people And Tanya Valya Berezovsky and00:42:10
Gusinsky two videos of the tycoon’s daughter Yaytsen00:42:13
and Yumashev, you understand when00:42:15
they put these characters00:42:18
who really have power and all these00:42:20
millionaires and billionaires on the same brush, who00:42:23
even get it for free at the risk of00:42:24
Nickel But it’s just money, it’s heaven00:42:28
and earth, you sing, they put them side by side And even The00:42:30
younger generation gets the feeling00:42:32
that these oligarchs are more important, but they are not a damn thing00:42:35
more important, they have no power, this is what we need to00:42:37
convey to children and this is a global untruth00:42:39
of this film, we must always say that00:42:41
power is stronger than money, and in Russia it has been like this since00:42:44
time immemorial and even 2 years before00:42:47
the end of Soviet power in the eighteenth and00:42:49
ninetieth year, when the cooperators were the first.00:42:52
They earned a million in wooden00:42:55
rubles. The security officers had already lowered the tank on them.00:42:58
And the party, which still had all the power, had00:43:01
already published notes in the entire press00:43:04
that these cooperators were swindlers, thieves, and00:43:05
so on, they already knew that they00:43:08
will00:43:10
outweigh Maria Singers among them00:43:13
Sergei, I’m just sorry that I got in with00:43:15
this opinion Well, as they say, they exchanged00:43:17
just now this is a hot topic. Once again I00:43:19
want to show another episode from also Maria00:43:22
Singers, but I asked to stick it where00:43:25
she didn’t dare to stick this beauty00:43:27
Zakharova and now we, so to speak,00:43:30
as they say, have no time for copyright There is a war going on00:43:32
and that’s why what a year ago on00:43:35
Navalny’s air They talked about the train there,00:43:38
showed the French how she travels, So00:43:40
to speak, from Paris to London to visit her son00:43:42
and so on And now we can00:43:44
show her beauty Let's see if00:43:46
it worked or00:43:48
not And the sound is where it seemed to me that there00:43:52
in all these photographs Maria speaks and00:43:54
shows Pena buys00:43:56
train tickets in 2 hours she already lives here in London00:43:59
Her son dropped by, she apparently dropped by00:44:01
literally for a minute and returned the same evening00:44:03
to00:44:04
Paris on March 25 with rocket systems00:44:08
Hail and hurricane The Russian army carries out00:44:11
55 strikes on Kharkov but on this day she00:44:15
walks along the street San Honore enters the00:44:18
Prado store and buys clothes worth00:44:19
88,000 euros there France holds a special00:44:22
place in her heart And it’s not just00:44:24
about in Parisian stores, her daughter lives here.00:44:26
On the Cote d'Azur, the whole00:44:28
family once vacationed every summer for a00:44:33
month. Sergei, you understand, and now00:44:35
power is stronger than money, and in France,00:44:38
power is stronger than money, and in America, power is00:44:40
stronger than money,00:44:42
money has no sound for me or anyone else I am00:44:46
Yeah you hear Yeah I hope the audience00:44:52
hears me So I wanted to say that power is00:44:54
stronger than money and in France and now00:44:56
in and money bags even as cool as00:44:59
Elon Musk cannot really rule and00:45:02
rule countries it turns out that they are the ones who00:45:04
rule everything you understand they rule Obama, behind Biden's00:45:06
back, they are driving the country into a00:45:10
hellish deficit, for this there will be a reckoning,00:45:13
but all the dogs are being pinned on the oligarchs, the so-00:45:16
called owners of oil00:45:19
companies, banks, American brokers,00:45:21
schmo of the same Elon Mask, and when the00:45:24
financial crisis hits, they will say that because of them,00:45:25
that they are greedy you understand what00:45:27
the roll call is00:45:29
and I think that this is not00:45:32
quite what Maria00:45:35
Pevchikh says because by the way in this00:45:37
film she says that everything was decided by Tanya Tanya,00:45:42
Yeltsin’s daughter and his husband, her husband Vari00:45:45
Imashev, so she says that there are00:45:49
no oligarchs they didn’t have any power,00:45:51
she said that they walked00:45:55
and were00:45:57
when they were introduced to Tanya and Vali, and that’s00:46:00
when they were introduced to Tanya Iva. They00:46:02
said that this was the only channel and00:46:04
they were happy that they had such a00:46:06
channel, they didn’t have any other channel00:46:08
was That is, they could not call00:46:10
Yeltsin Yeltsin, even if they called00:46:12
they got to the secretary who00:46:14
said sign up there, I don’t know,00:46:16
we’ll connect maybe in 3 weeks and then00:46:19
there is no guarantee. But when did they00:46:21
get such a wonderful00:46:24
direct family channel00:46:27
that just films phone and calls00:46:30
Yeltsin's dad on his private mobile phone and00:46:32
says Dad, hello, this is Tanya, this is the daughter, that's00:46:35
when they got00:46:37
access to power, this is perfectly shown in the film,00:46:39
in this sense, I don't00:46:42
understand why you criticize him for for for00:46:45
for this because just all this is00:46:47
shown there that these oligarchs would have had00:46:52
Abramovich00:46:56
Khodorkovsky and so on and so forth on our screens for a whole hour, and Tanya and00:46:58
Valya are even less there than these guys, the00:47:01
viewer has a feeling that the viewer, as we know, reads 7% of00:47:04
the information and the emphasis is not00:47:06
placed that these three Tanya Valya00:47:10
Berezovsky and Gusinsky they decide that00:47:12
we will continue to push Yeltsin. But he00:47:15
should be put into bed, so to speak, and into00:47:18
this nursing home, and push00:47:19
Borya Nemtsov out. You see, here is the main00:47:22
fork in the road and I want to say how00:47:25
Khodorkovsky was in the film00:47:27
at the first hard on the second so to00:47:29
speak a little softer but He told the most00:47:31
important thing guys I repented many times that00:47:34
I earned money in the nineties and did00:47:37
not do reforms Yes, Khodorkovsky did not00:47:40
have the power but to lobby for reforms00:47:43
to buy officials to force them to do00:47:45
reforms, probably Khodorkovsky was partly able00:47:48
Yes, partly I I just don’t understand whether00:47:51
he could have made it at all. Yes, because he needed to00:47:54
fight with the red directors in00:47:56
all these other companies of his. Well,00:47:58
okay, okay, okay. But the most important thing is that he00:48:00
definitely couldn’t influence either Tanya or00:48:02
Valya. I perceive Valya Yumashev as an00:48:05
Agent. The FSB and all the Pathos, so to speak,00:48:07
why are we discussing this now00:48:09
because everyone has the same question: who brought00:48:12
Putin to power? Why are we hogging this00:48:15
war? How did circumstances turn out00:48:18
in the nineties that Putin became00:48:20
president? That’s why this film is00:48:22
now just as interesting as you and I00:48:24
are watching an episode from a film a year ago,00:48:26
which I didn’t watch, too, at00:48:28
Navalny’s until Timur00:48:31
Ivanov was imprisoned, nobody needs him by the way, by the way.00:48:33
Let’s see, we have00:48:35
Evk there now, the coolest of00:48:43
all, isn’t he00:48:56
saying something, and Mariupol and Putin are okay00:49:00
Okay Let’s assume that we have shown this00:49:02
Sergei, your feeling is still what’s00:49:05
wrong with my concept of00:49:08
the world, no, you have a normal concept of the world,00:49:12
that is, and in this sense, I’m not00:49:14
criticizing, I just don’t really understand00:49:16
why you do this00:49:19
so they were critical of what00:49:21
was said there because, in my opinion, after00:49:23
all, it was said that another thing is00:49:25
that the film is of course When you make a film00:49:27
with you Well, you are a television person. You00:49:31
understand that you cannot put all the questions00:49:33
into one and the same the same film And00:49:35
the question is00:49:36
why Putin became and not Nemtsov or00:49:40
even Stepashin or someone else and00:49:43
some of this same Sobyanin, who00:49:46
quite by the way was still a00:49:49
democratic person and could well00:49:51
have been an official Quite a good one That’s00:49:55
about Putin, as I understand it, that there will be a00:49:57
next episode, what because it00:50:00
means it’s not up to him yet, that is, in00:50:03
this series there were loans-for-shares auctions, that00:50:05
is, it was told very well How in00:50:09
fact, let’s say Alfred Koch What00:50:12
he played because he was the Minister of00:50:14
State Property and practically if it did00:50:18
n’t exist, there wouldn’t be any loans-for-shares00:50:20
auctions. And that’s all, and00:50:23
the mechanism is very well shown when these mean00:50:25
authorized00:50:27
and what does authorized mean00:50:29
some state00:50:31
funds were transferred there and they00:50:39
manage state money00:50:42
and then when the state couldn’t00:50:44
to return this money back from the Ministry of Finance, they00:50:48
privatized this very property,00:50:50
that is, in fact, it was an absolutely00:50:51
ingenious mechanism00:50:54
of theft in which the highest authorities participated,00:50:56
that is, Yeltsin certainly did00:50:58
not understand anything about this because he simply00:51:00
did not go into detail, but00:51:03
people like there Kokha and Alfred, by the way,00:51:06
he feels quite normal, he00:51:09
gives interviews, he generally considers himself a00:51:11
quite decent person, he has00:51:14
no remorse of any kind, I have never00:51:16
heard in my life, he absolutely00:51:19
speaks, so to speak, gives interviews and00:51:22
shows himself to be an intelligent person, although without00:51:25
without his participation with From my point of view,00:51:27
it would not have worked at00:51:29
all. Well, I allow myself to say that00:51:33
Koch was Mr. designer and that is,00:51:36
his job was to formalize the political00:51:38
decisions made by Tanya Valya and Mr.00:51:40
Well, he couldn’t help but know that the00:51:42
largest property would be distributed in a00:51:44
certain way. When you say00:51:46
that Yeltsin didn’t delve into anything at all. Well,00:51:48
okay, maybe it’s completely absurd why are you00:51:51
running this country? So you don’t00:51:53
run it; Tanya and Valya are running it, but00:51:55
since Tanya, in this film it’s00:51:57
said that she’s just a girl from a00:51:58
design bureau who was pulled out,00:52:00
which means the country was run by Mash. So00:52:02
Masha is to blame for everything, and they tell us00:52:05
that Chubais is to blame for everything Maria singers00:52:07
can we put this emphasis can00:52:09
we see what will happen in the next episode00:52:11
Sergei this is very important you understand this is a fork in the road the00:52:13
role of the individual in history is00:52:14
colossal Yeltsin what he did is of00:52:17
colossal00:52:18
importance matters the fact that Gaidar00:52:21
was an intellectual, a man without money,00:52:24
with which he came without pants to the Government,00:52:26
and with that he left And he left for the next world With the same thing,00:52:29
and at the same time he made These reforms in the00:52:31
first 2 years And when he00:52:33
died, I did a report on NTV I OTS Matri00:52:35
chronicle of the ninety-first ninety-00:52:37
year My God, how is it00:52:40
Mochilova, the country's television killed00:52:42
its prime minister and all the ministers, that's why00:52:45
they went crazy, Poland,00:52:48
2 years before this, made reforms in its country,00:52:51
someone in Poland killed their own the00:52:53
ministers there were Baltserovich and all of them were00:52:56
sold to state-owned enterprises. Yes,00:52:59
it never occurred to me, you understand. And00:53:01
Yeltsin, why does he give the ministers of the press00:53:03
Poltoranin, a communist bastard?00:53:05
Why Because Yeltsin makes checks00:53:08
and balances, because for Yeltsin,00:53:10
power is more important than the fate of the country, you understand00:53:13
what we’re talking about. you really need00:53:15
to convey it in the most severe way and not00:53:18
say that Koch, who he had when he00:53:21
left the government, he didn’t have00:53:22
money to put in teeth, he00:53:23
walked with a fixer, you understand the details of00:53:25
Koch’s biography Well, listen Look,00:53:28
when he left the government He became a00:53:30
stockbroker market to earn money he is the most00:53:32
competent person in this country00:53:33
of course of course he earned the same as00:53:36
now members of the government in America00:53:38
have earned a lot of money in the stock market over the00:53:40
past 2 years00:53:42
listen Look at any member of00:53:44
Congress any member of the Senate 2 days before a00:53:47
vote of strategic00:53:50
importance in any industry American00:53:52
buys shares that take off four00:53:54
times straight, the whole Internet, all of00:53:57
America knows this and sees that he00:54:00
did such things in Koho, he left the00:54:02
government and began to earn money. Okay,00:54:03
let’s not Sergei, I honestly00:54:05
say so, I’m very sorry that we only have00:54:08
4 minutes but we The fact is that in Spain, a00:54:10
country close to you in a country of the same00:54:13
almost socialism As in France,00:54:15
Prime Minister Sanchez is an absolutely leftist00:54:18
red who got everyone,00:54:21
my daughter at the Spanish university in Madrid00:54:23
says everything is against him,00:54:25
they call him Los Rojas the reds like they00:54:28
got all the sane people all the boys00:54:32
studying in her Carlo Russian Federation here in the second00:54:35
there this room what is it called where is the wife00:54:39
by the way cheating so you have a scandal I’m00:54:43
talking about you because Spain and00:54:44
France Okay Yes that means the scandal is00:54:46
that the corruption investigation is about the fact00:54:49
that Sanchez’s wife, while teaching at an00:54:52
African university, helped00:54:54
some companies receive subsidies00:54:56
further And here she is Sanchez’s wife and Sanchez00:54:59
said Yes, you know Well, since00:55:01
the investigation has begun, I’ll probably stop00:55:04
my public activities and00:55:07
think about resigning from the post of00:55:09
Prime Minister altogether What is this? This is what00:55:12
Es ROH we have [ __ ] off00:55:18
Pravda00:55:19
Well, this needs to be looked at because00:55:23
Spain is, after all, a Democratic country and00:55:25
if there is a journalistic investigation there00:55:26
and it is published,00:55:28
then he will resign, this is absolutely00:55:30
absolutely I must tell you that00:55:32
we have In France, now when they start00:55:34
some kind of investigations against ministers,00:55:36
our ministers don’t even suspend00:55:38
their activities, they continue.00:55:40
Previously, if some charges were brought against you,00:55:44
not even a conviction, the minister00:55:47
resigned and then if he was00:55:49
acquitted, he could return here.00:55:51
Now in France, everything00:55:53
has changed. In our country, no one has resigned for a long time.00:55:56
Unless you are already accused there of00:55:59
some kind of pedophilia or00:56:01
something else like that, so in Spain00:56:04
in this sense I think that everything there will be00:56:06
fully investigated So, coming back00:56:09
literally in a nutshell, you said00:56:12
that they00:56:14
hung all the dogs on00:56:18
Chubais, this is not true, in the first episode it00:56:22
says that exactly Yumashev is00:56:26
what kind of journalist who just00:56:28
wrote a book with Yeltsin, who first made a film00:56:31
about Yeltsin and then a book and then through00:56:33
this book, by the way, he paid bribes00:56:36
because Yeltsin was told that this was your00:56:38
fee, but in fact these were kickbacks00:56:41
that people paid for the00:56:43
decisions that Yeltsin and00:56:46
Yumasheva made when he was, in general, still nobody and00:56:49
walked in sweaters in a shabby00:56:56
first episode of the film00:56:59
and the big lie of the first episode of the film is that it00:57:02
starts with a house on an00:57:04
autumn street, which is a small thing. This is how in00:57:06
the history of the country we00:57:09
judge Yeltsin by his deeds, and Maria Pevchikh, a00:57:11
smart girl should judge Yeltsin for00:57:13
business and not for some luxury apartment yes00:57:17
Steal an apartment and a palace, make00:57:19
reforms, make Russia a prosperous00:57:22
country and Steal three palaces and we will00:57:24
thank you, but Yeltsin drank Russia,00:57:27
brought Putin to power, allowed Yumashev, an00:57:30
FSB agent, to bring Putin to power, and00:57:33
that’s why we for this we scold him and00:57:35
we don’t care about the fees for the writers’ business 300:57:38
kopecks don’t matter 3 kopecks That’s00:57:41
the main difference, so to speak, Maria singers You00:57:44
can listen to her I recommend everyone00:57:47
her dialogue with Yulia Latynina on00:57:50
Yulia Latynina’s channel there singers Yulia Latin00:57:53
just put it on both blades and at the same00:57:56
time ideologically the singers are wrong, she is an00:57:59
absolute rojo, that is, red. She00:58:02
believes that buns grow on trees, that00:58:05
capitalists need to be milked, that the main thing is00:58:08
social justice and equality, and00:58:12
I don’t really want to say this00:58:15
because00:58:20
we don’t want money. you didn’t00:58:24
need them you don’t need money you need buns they don’t00:58:27
grow on trees That’s what you’re singing That’s what00:58:29
I’m staring at sweat that I don’t like and at the00:58:31
same time I’m like a professional Yes, I really00:58:34
respect how the singers made this film I00:58:36
understand that she’s the number one journalist its00:58:40
editorial team is the most professional in00:58:42
Russia in the entire CIS. It wins minds and00:58:46
thus it also becomes the00:58:48
main political figure. I am delighted,00:58:51
but unfortunately it’s00:58:53
rojo. Okay. Well, okay, we haven’t00:58:57
discussed00:58:59
these issues with you yet. I’m so I think that00:59:01
today’s conversation we had, in principle,00:59:03
turned out to be quite interesting.00:59:05
By the way, in this sense, you and I have00:59:08
many more points of contact than00:59:10
differences, that is, we simply do not have time to keep up with00:59:13
all the details because the broadcast goes quickly and00:59:17
there is no way to always00:59:19
answer in depth this is a matter, but we will have another00:59:21
opportunity, I think we will talk about this00:59:23
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