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Silent Hill HD Collection

Silent Hill

Video Game Disasters

Video Game Documentaries

What Happened?

Wha Happun?

Matt McMuscles

Survival Horror

Konami

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Silent Hills

Hideo Kojima

Silent Hill 2

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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whoo and welcome to another hauntingly

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horrific episode of what happened the

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show where konami fuck'em some of you

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might remember we'd covered Silent Hill

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downpour a few months back but I

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wouldn't blame you if you did it as

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almost anything related to that game is

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a rapidly crumbling memory of a

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forgotten madman with that in mind

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however Konami has given us no who

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shortage of monumental tales of

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mismanagement revolving around their own

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franchises Metal Gear survive well hop

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on never dead towards the shadow - what

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happened any of these contra games what

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happened but Oh would you look at that

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yeah so I'm not legally allowed to talk

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about anything but horror games this

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month and since the ylim unremarkable

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tale of homecoming will only dull the

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senses less instead dig deep into the

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grave and pull out the Silent Hill HD

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collection one of the worst ways to

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experience two absolute classics in the

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genre of horror

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now some Silent Hill fans ie most of

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them cursed just about everyone and

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everything for giving birth to this

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collection with the developer who

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handled said ports as well as then

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Silent Hill producer Tom Hewlett

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receiving most of the abuse after doing

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some research however most of the blame

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should be directed elsewhere before that

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though we need to provide at least a

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shred of context when we hoisted Silent

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Hill down corn on to our stage we

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discussed one of its many problems the

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delay from October of 2011 to March of

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the next year cryptically Konami never

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said why this delay occurred here's why

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originally they wanted all their little

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Silent Hill ducks in a row releasing in

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the same month to make the most impact

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and it was a massive failure right so

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the

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viii Simon Hill revelations 32 you did

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get farted out into the theaters on

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schedule as konami only had limited

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control over that but their video game

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projects had no choice in the matter

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they were so far away from the finish

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line that they had to be delayed

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so instead Konami decided to shift

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everything over to the most macabre

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blood-soaked month in the pagan calendar

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March

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alrighty the snow is melting the birds

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are chirping let the month of madness

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begin

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fans both new and old would now be able

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to experience the tension the isolation

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and the psychological terror provided by

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two master classes in the genre

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[Music]

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so yeah what what happened now upon

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entering this HD version of Simon hell

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you might see something stumble out of

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the choking fog oh okay okay maybe mean

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fog is a bit generous a light mist let's

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say so yeah that piteous form would be

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that of the developer hijinks Studios

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founded in California hijinks quickly

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established a working relationship with

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Konami and were probably chosen to bring

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Silent Hill into the HD era due to the

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prestigious franchises they worked on

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previously such as Karaoke Revolution

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Karaoke Revolution Glee vol 2 and of

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course Karaoke Revolution glee volumes

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the whole idea of a Silent Hill HD was

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kicked off on konami saw the praise and

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sales success of the sublime Metal Gear

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Solid collection as well as the

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increasing trend of remasters in general

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within the company projects like these

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were seen as a fast easy way to squeeze

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more money out of a pre-existing game or

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franchise however this type of work

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isn't something every studio can do case

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in point

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hijinks it actually takes a lot of

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insight and experience in how certain

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games work to then backwards engineer

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them to play nice on modern consoles

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while hijinks had certainly made several

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games for Konami and specifically for

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their u.s. branch they actually had zero

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experience and remastering old titles

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and the demands and restrictions that

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were put in place in typical Konami

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fashion weren't exactly ideal now

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remember these are two of the most

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critically lauded horror video games of

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all time with a rapid slavering fanbase

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if there are any other Konami characters

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outside a snake that deserve the best

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remastering possible its James and

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Heather in an interview with rely on

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horror a former staffer who worked on

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Silent Hill HD opened up about the

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project and its many many many woes when

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asked if they were given the appropriate

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budget resources and time to work on two

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titles such a prestigious pedigree they

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stated oh definitely not

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I imagine that Konami saw this is a very

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quick and painless way to make some

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money while HD remaster

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were popular it ended up taking much

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longer the intended schedule was a few

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months but by the end we had spent more

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than a year on the project see the MGS

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HDC came out first so I'm not sure about

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the time they were given but they were

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almost certainly given a much larger

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budget I don't imagine Blue Point had

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the level of trouble we did with SH as

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Kojima Productions still existed at that

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time

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so if Blue Point needed to ask questions

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or rent any difficulties that resource

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was there obviously that wasn't an

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option for us

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teams silent the collective of talented

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individuals who had developed the first

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four silent hill's

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had been disbanded back in the mid 2000s

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much to the ire of fans

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this of course fed into one of the more

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infamous issues plaguing this project in

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particular which is what doomed it from

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the very beginning Konami had lost

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and/or thrown out the source code for

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the final gold masters of both Silent

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Hill 2 & 3 let that just sink in it's

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ridiculous couldn't possibly be true

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oh don't worry high jinks Papa Konami

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has you covered

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we heroically saved these other non

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final builds of both games just for you

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here you go

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Konami expected this inexperienced

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fairly young American team to remaster

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two horror classics with unfinished code

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they were riddled with bugs missing

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textures audio issues just about

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everything you can think of when you

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think of early build this

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this town there's something wrong with

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it both gangs were completable sure but

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when a lot of your appeal is based on a

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specific and at times very subtle

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atmosphere even the smallest audio quirk

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or way word texture can destroy a lot of

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what makes Silent Hill game is memorable

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the anonymous staffer on this particular

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subject goes on Konami provided the

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source assets that had been archived

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after the original release on the

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PlayStation 2 these were the only assets

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available and as far as we knew going in

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the completed final code however after

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digging into the code and assets it was

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obvious these were not final

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who ever archived it must have done it

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before the final submission or work with

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incomplete data nobody really knows by

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virtue of it being so long ago needless

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to say there are many unfinished

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elements how can you possibly expect the

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team who is already lacking experienced

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complete the job without having all of

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the canvas or brushes or materials they

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need well you can if you're a konami

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[Music]

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undaunted hijinx plugged away and now

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had to do way more work than they had

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originally anticipated if a texture was

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found to be missing you need to be

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recreated by the artist from scratch a

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soundtrack was going to be presented in

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surround so the audio team spent months

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remastering every single song with that

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in mind all of this extra elbow grease

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of course exponentially increased the

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time they would need to get the games up

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to snuff and considering the state of

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the map on release that's [ __ ] up

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another issue the former staffer brought

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up was that unlike Silent Hill the Metal

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Gear franchise had a presiding figure

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over it had a Okajima therefore all mgs

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projects were overseen by Kojima

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Productions up wait the old Kojima

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Productions logo not the new okay so a

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lot of other Konami franchises like

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contra Castlevania or sparkster had no

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Rockstar dad to protect them against

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that's at least one reason why Kojima

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started to get involved with some of

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these games in the first place as there

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were flocks without Shepards

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God making me so sad let's keep going

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the voiceovers

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change literally no one asked for and

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something that hijinks had zero control

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over was its own mucky quagmire this is

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mainly to do with the bad blood between

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Konami productions and guys see he the

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voice of James who claimed that in 2010

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Konami owed him unpaid residuals for his

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performance which will lead him to later

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refused to give his blessing to the new

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recordings this problem gets a bit

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complicated as the recasted James Troy

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Baker chimed in on the issue stating

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that voice acting contracts simply

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aren't written like that no one gets

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paid residuals for their performance as

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it becometh the property of the company

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contracting the work you sign on you get

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paid and that's it when the former

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hijinks staffer was asked about this

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they sided with Baker I'm fairly sure

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they were reissued standard voice

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contracts was specified that Konami owns

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all performances without additional

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compensation regardless of who was at

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fault it certainly was a blow to the

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remasters authenticity hijinks however

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was orbiting outside all this drama they

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were told to implement the new voices

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and so they did even being able to wipe

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their hands of the recasting process

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however they were still not spared

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additional problems concerning the audio

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all right so this this thing is just

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hijinks weren't able to adjust any of

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the in-game cutscenes without messing up

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the code and creating more potential

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problems so all they could do was

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manipulate the length of the sound files

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themselves to best fit the scene which

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was obviously an imperfect process I

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guess I really don't care if it's

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dangerous or not I'm going into town

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either way

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the subtitles for the cutscenes were

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also hard-coded so they couldn't adjust

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the text to account for any small

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inflections or added words that might

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have occurred during the recordings

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please get to you at all it gets to me

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alright

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curiously however the new voiceovers

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were mandatory in Silent Hill 3 whereas

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players had the option in Silent Hill 2

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which makes little sense given the

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context all Konami would officially say

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in regards to this for the Tom Hewlett

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authored post on the Silent Hill

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Facebook page unfortunately due to

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factors both technical and logistical

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Silent Hill 3 will be presented with new

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voices only since then sources claim

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that Konami had simply lost the original

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recordings for Silent Hill 3 altogether

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yeah I'll put your shocked faces on but

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Silent Hill fans did not take kindly to

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this it's almost as if hijinks were

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being tortured like they were wandering

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through rusty grinding hallways being

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assaulted by new problems at every turn

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trying to stop them from reaching their

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goal Konami had to know of all the

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headaches the project was going through

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so why on earth was the game released in

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such a state in the first place

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since the game had gone so long past its

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original schedule it just had to come

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out or be canceled everyone knew how

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important HD Silent Hill would be to fan

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so he tried to clean it up as best we

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could and release it rather than

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canceling the whole thing it was decided

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that would come out during the same

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window as downpour and the Vita game so

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he fixes many of the issues as we could

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before the deadline since this was

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intended to just be a simple release

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there was no sort of quality control at

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Konami for game faithfulness and there

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are no original members of team silent

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to give the all-clear Akira Yamaoka

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having quit Konami back in 2009 all the

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collection needed to do was pass all of

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Sony and Microsoft certification

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requirements so

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longtime fans of the series were taken

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aback when they encountered dramatically

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scale back fog ugly textures that were

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hidden in the original release for now

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made more due to the HD upscale crashes incorrect

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sound effects and framerate drops where

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there were no framerate drops before as

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a stink broken by almost every

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quantifiable metric in both presentation

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performance and atmosphere these ports

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are considered inferior to their ps2 and

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Xbox iterations Massa Hiro Ito a former

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art director team silent was even shown

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the downgrade on Twitter to which he

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replied left side is HD isn't it it's

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poor it's really the released version

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really a patch was then quickly issued

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after launch that fixed a small number

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of problems and a much bigger patch was

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promised to come to both consoles and

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fix the rest which turned out to kind of

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be a massive lie see in the seventh

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generation most console manufacturers

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would charge not insignificant fees for

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publishers to issue patches and a konami

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z' case they simply didn't want to spend

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more money fixing the game since the

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Silent Hill series had a long history

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with the PlayStation brand it was said

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brand being a much bigger factor in

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Japan it's reasonable to assume that

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Konami wanted to focus on the

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PlayStation 3 version instead so they

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just cancelled the 360 patch with the

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only official word from Konami being

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that this was due to technical and

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resource issues you mean money March

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2012 the month of madness says Konami

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called it had to be one of the most

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dismal failures in trying to

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reinvigorate a franchise what's more is

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that book of memories a dungeon crawler

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for some [ __ ] handheld was then

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delayed a further six months finally

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releasing that October why not just

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delay all three games at that point to

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actually smooth out the literal

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thousands of problems and bad PR moves

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you've already made No

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as it stands all three of these Silent

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Hill releases were all put through the

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wringer review wise posting the lowest

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scores of the franchise and selling just

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as poorly the proposed month of madness

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also killed two out of the three studios

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associated with it the lone survivor way

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forward thankfully still going strong in

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case to miss that implication yes hyejeong

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studios was closed mere days after the

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HD collection they tried so hard to

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salvage hit store shelves sad end to an

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even sadder tale fortunately however you

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can download Silent Hill 2 & 3 on the

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PlayStation stock wait that's that's

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right Konami never made available of the

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original version of either game on any

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digital storefront only Silent Hill 1

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but you can get the HD collection via

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backwards compatibility on Xbox one

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you know the versions that had their

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patches cancelled wait this version

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didn't get passed this is the person I

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have it's very possible that if you've

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never played the originals and you don't

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care about bugs and performance issues

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the HD collection might be an easy way

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for you to experience them but I implore

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you to dig out your ps2 or xbox or if

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you into the modding scene on pc you can

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finagle your way into making your own HD

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remaster if you are so inclined with the

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outright cancellation and internet

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scrubbing of Silent Hill as a complete

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reboot of the franchise with Hideo

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Kojima Guillermo del Toro and Junjie Ito

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at the helm Konami not only burned

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bridges with the fans but pissed out the

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flames as well so it's really hard to

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look at the future of the franchise with

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any degree of positivity that being said

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just two months ago the company did

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register for a new Silent Hill trademark

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but with no additional details at this

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time remains to be seen what this might

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wind up being a brand new title another

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movie maybe another betterer collection

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while what the final source code still

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lost the same pitfalls and setbacks that

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plagued high jinks might again haunt

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whoever attempts to follow in their

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footsteps if you know of any other scary

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sad sacks of scummy scandals rate your

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but see you next time and thanks oh so

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we was all your work

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yeah

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