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recently a certain case presented itself, although

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it wasn’t with me,

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when a question arose about

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them,

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this question in general is always posed,

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well, always, if God is love, then why is there

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suffering,

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but even so, in general, the answer is not so, it

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may seem simple and simple, but

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such questions can be posed when when

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a person may find himself in difficulty, well,

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okay, you have to suffer for your sins, well, it’s understandable, so it’s

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necessary for others not only

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I don’t need a belt, but for

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others, that’s the one who commits

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atrocities, why is it necessary because these

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atrocities are all visible and everyone screams and makes noise and

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they condemn what’s going on inside me, ah,

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no one sees this and I’m silent,

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but

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if I were to take and put on the scales

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what he’s doing clearly, but what’s

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going on with me, I’m afraid that it won’t work out

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exactly according to the wisdom that can be

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read the gospel that you look at the

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speck in your brother's eye

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but don't see the beam in your own

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you know 11 the saint said so when we

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pray to the god we

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imagine him we feel that he

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hears us

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when we sin then he doesn't even seem to

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notice and so do we we hide and we see

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each other and it’s so good and

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so here too about suffering

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others he is scoundrels and

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other words

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there everything is clear as it should be but

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I remind you of what we have already

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talked about that if only

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God really judged with

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justice then everything

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We probably wouldn’t even have tried for a minute, we

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would have been struck down by unquenchable fire, the

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law of problems and suffering is in fact

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not exhausted by just this

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formulation of the question, because there are still other

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problems that affect other

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aspects of

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our human life, and

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innocent suffering,

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childhood suffering, and

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spontaneous

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underground three series and thousands or even

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tens of thousands of

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people die and

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poems this is how it happens imagine

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what is happening an earthquake is not

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an accident

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how is it that God sends these earthquakes

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or like

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friends and I believe that you will definitely

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need to pay attention to this

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problem even you will have to

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if you want to be at least more or less

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just one decent priest, I’m

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not talking about some kind of priests, you

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will have to talk to people and answer those

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questions that bother them, the question of

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suffering from one of the very first

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I am making such a long introduction for

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what reason, to tell you for this

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so that

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here you and I understand this more

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deeply and more broadly, I

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want to point out whether there are key

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concepts without analysis of which

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I am afraid that our reasoning will be

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superficial in nature, the

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first concepts that we encounter

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and

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which directly have a direct bearing on

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problems and suffering who such a god

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who is God yes yes

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what is such a fear of God

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follow when he sings repentance

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trembling

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spar urka flies and

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why what’s the matter I

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’ll explain to you

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the tooth here it seems like what

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now he will give you for your sins

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now he will literally tear you to pieces for

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these sins that is, God introduces himself and

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almost like some kind of monster, you are an

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executioner who now I don’t know what

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will do to you, but they

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imagined him as God,

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that this is the love

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to insult which is a shame,

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cream, why it’s terribly embarrassing, it’s

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not good, it’s like they’re singing, they’re trembling

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as I write, I’m

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not ashamed to even speak in front of you,

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God, I’m in awe

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they don’t tremble,

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come on, God, from this there are 3 ovens on the

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throne there, well, he’s probably running away from this

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fear from our food, you hear how we

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understand what we say, my God, we confused the

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fear of a predator, which is a fierce beast,

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and the fear of love,

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which is not God forbid to offend, to

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hurt with even the slightest thing,

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you see the first concept that we

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are faced with is really who God is,

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he punishes,

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he takes revenge, and we read the Bible about this,

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vengeance for me and I will repay

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God, the avenger, and so on,

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or who is the love of what kind of pat on the head

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again what so the first thing we should

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talk about with you a little and today

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we’ll talk about this concept of God

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is the first, too, without without analyzing this

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concept, it is without clarifying the

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Christian understanding of God that it

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will be very difficult for us to talk further about those

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sufferings, sorrows and

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experiences that occur in the

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human world, the

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second concept

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We all somehow understand, even without

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reasoning, that soon they are sent for

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sins, what is sin,

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for what sins, for what sins,

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cult bandits, everything

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is prosperous, and here a person who

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goes to church doesn’t even pass a candle over his left

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shoulder, only through his right shoulder, and

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the knot of ambulances for sorrow,

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what is this

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sin, what is sin and

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how is it connected to the issue of suffering, do you hear

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how it is connected

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directly

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or somehow

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indirectly, how to understand,

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this question

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was asked very often and many,

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including Christians, Lord, how to

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understand,

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remember who this vision was

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an angel appeared to

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a saint and

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they watch

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how he pours water into some hole,

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takes it from the sea, draws gifts, what are

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you doing, I’m trying to

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measure the sea with this from the column, pour it, I

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realized that it turns out that there are

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so many

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complex moments hidden here that are simply

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impossible to explain in a single-linear way, what

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is sin again -

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because it is connected with suffering, and here

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we are entering into a rather

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complicated sphere in the sense that whole

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Christian confessions they hear something,

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whole

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Catholicism, for example, went in a completely

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different direction,

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followed the path of a

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pagan understanding of sin, but

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there is a Christian understanding at all

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different things and in the whirlwind of the session we

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again see very important divisions

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that can only give us

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the correct correct conclusion: there is personal

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sin,

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there is so-called original sin, there is

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so-called generational sin, not to

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mention there are social sins,

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there are sins economically and politically, and

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what not

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here again we

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are also faced with a soup question behind this

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friends, this is why I propose this

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for a broad consideration once again I

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tell you you should know more

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than what the general knows, well, I would say

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the mass of people need to know more in order to

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say correctly to say about

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less without knowing more it’s very difficult

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to speak like

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this, you see the concept of sin

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here again, what kind of field,

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and

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the concept of human freedom, as soon as

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we said sin, we immediately immediately

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understand that we can’t call a

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sinner the person who grabs them,

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grabs him so forcibly puts his

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hand in someone else’s pocket so that he gets out of there took and

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pulled out it

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is clear that that is not a sin, a

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sin only where there is freedom, you where

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there is consciousness where the person

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who produces this action participates,

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so I roughly

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outlined the picture for you, a

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picture

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that, with

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proper consideration, of course, can

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give us, but more or less all the same the

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appropriate answer to the problem of

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suffering is to drink and you widely, of course,

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it could be five minutes before and that’s all,

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but in terms of acquaintance, I already want to say

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more than five minutes only in

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acquaintances

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only for this reason

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and for the first

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thing you and I should dwell on is

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how and the Christian understanding of God and does

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it differ from those

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ideas that existed before Christ?

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This is very important, my friends, it is

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very important especially at the moment

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when we have heard every now and then all

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religions worship the same

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god,

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therefore they are all only more

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or to a lesser extent

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they do it correctly, but in general it means that

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in essence they are all one and the same,

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only more or less

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more correctly or less correctly

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to do it and how interesting and

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this is a question really, you and I have

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already said, imagine what is

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happening now to

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God alone

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remember when the

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four-day-old Lazarus was resurrected, a

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meeting of the highest Jewish body of the Sanhedrin immediately took place

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at which the final decision was made;

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before this they had already tried many times to try to

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do something with Christ, here it was

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already decided to carry the decision as a decision

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of the law to

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kill

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no, will you think about

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resurrecting Lazarus

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who is four days old lay in this heat and

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already died like a rock so clearly who could

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clearly clearly

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but

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smart Caiaphas uttered words

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that will become a symbol of the new religion,

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it’s better for one person to die than for the

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whole people to suffer,

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what good cards are the words and we say

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Christ suffered just to save

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everyone and here about what was discussed,

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yes, now it is clear that you really are the

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divine mission that

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all the prophets announced and

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we are faced with a choice,

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now our people will really follow him,

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our Jewish people will follow him, but what am I after?

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5 mission in their understanding was who

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the king was, not only Jewish, but in the

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end, to whom

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all nations will be subordinated, and Caiaphas, the smart one,

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understood that Rome will not tolerate this, and

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so

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either we recognize the divine

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king Jesus, clearly divine, or

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we will rebel against God

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in the name of preserving our

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current material well-being;

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God or Mammon and

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choice was made, the

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highest governing body decided to

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kill the

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divine messenger and

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then the decision was made to

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immediately kill him dawn

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as a witness

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evidence is not arguments but

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evidence of the divinity of Jesus and

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so religion, why am I telling you why

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no one rejected God there

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seems to be religion but which one

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religion against God

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religion in quotation marks

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what is the name of this religion against God

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as the back you know and

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you know

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Satanism

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what choice was made

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what horror to him

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external material

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seeming

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which at the moment I myself everything

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changes

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then if this is a divine mission it means

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he has the fullness of strength and power he

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can do anything no Rome

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will do anything with its regions

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against God what kind of Rome can come out

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funny to say even

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no no

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so

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if you want I do

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n’t know whether this was the beginning or

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this was already a certain episode but the

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religion of Satanism was created to

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fight against the divine messenger

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in the name of an apparent external

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material prosperous life here he is, the

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same religion is also his own god, only what kind of

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devil

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in one god of faith

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can you worship the end of Christ and

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the opposite,

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poor Apostle Paul and he exclaims

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what kind of communication Christ has with Belial oh how

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he didn’t understand he would have met the hour with

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this Pope Francis would have at least

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explained the bond to the Apostle Paul

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alive, we bow together to the same one,

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where could Paul have understood this

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Francisco and the hare knows this better,

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we and the Jews believe in the same

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god,

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what is the Christian concept of God, as

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you can see from this episode

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absolutely It obviously emerges

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that the

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God of the

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Christians

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rises higher and he is above these

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worldly,

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I would say,

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problems, but in what sense is he above, not in

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the sense that he is above detached from them, he is

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indifferent, no UN, the

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UN

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is the source

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which is only based on which only the

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correct correct solution to all problems is possible

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including, by the way, all earthly

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problems, but most importantly

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the problems relating to man as the center

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of the universe,

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his spirit, his soul, his eternity,

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what are the characteristics of

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pagan pagan ideas about God

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that you remember, this is what the

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Sanhedrin decided, this is complete and quite suitable,

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there the gods were the bearers of precisely the

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sources of earthly well-being people

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of the earth and

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here the whole essence was in this even the

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Greek Olympus and there it ultimately

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symbolized symbolized of course

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what well-being is what this

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external bodily

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Hercules at the feast of the gods there is

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external pleasure

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and

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what is the main characteristic of

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these gods if we take pagan

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ideas

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then, of course,

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there were gods similar to people in their

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properties and

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their passions; the

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gods were nothing more than a

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projection of

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man into some distant

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infinity; the distant perfection of yoga

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had the same human properties,

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only of course, to an infinite, to a high

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degree;

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therefore, to please them it was possible

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somehow only to correspond to

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this quality of theirs, so remember, for

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example, whoever could please Bacchus, he would get drunk

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more of course, I’ll eat as part of

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the celebration

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of this god,

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many pagan temples were places of

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incredible debauchery,

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who was simply respecting God with this,

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friends, my expenses are a very important point

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when we talk bang

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we say the ideal of human life,

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hear

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human life,

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god is the ideal to which a

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person should strive, my god is like this,

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God is the ideal, and that

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’s why the gods always portrayed exactly

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this in pagan ideas, the gods were

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like that, if we take the Old Testament

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idea of God, then you probably

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remember that

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perhaps the

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highest characteristic was, of course,

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God

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the greatest truth,

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justice

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in this sense, the truth,

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he is fair and he can show mercy, but

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March on punish, take revenge, and he

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does exactly that in the whole story,

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and by the way, if you read

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the Bible, you see how it really is

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portrayed the history of mainly the

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Jewish people, we and other

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people too, and we will deduce how they are connected, it is often

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directly connected, often the moral

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state of the people with their external

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well-being, in

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particular the Jewish people, this is such a

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very good illustration, they

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began to return, they began to go,

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disasters, they were enslaved, they were beaten, they

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accepted, they

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repent, they are

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freed,

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they begin organizing your inner

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life

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there is a direct dependence,

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that is, God is really

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justice incarnate,

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how do Christian understandings differ,

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so to speak, you should even

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know Christians very, very well

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sabers vela definitely didn’t know the

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ancient world just didn’t know

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although they were named in the Bible we know, although

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God is called merciful,

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but to say that God is precisely love,

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simply love, as I am not only the highest

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characteristics in the dampness, and I draw your

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attention to the

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fact that it is unspeakable que ya no theologian that

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God has love, and

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it is said that he is love,

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that is, if, well, try to translate this

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into I would say your language is philosophical or

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something,

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this

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expresses the essence of God, as it were, the

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very essence of God

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is love,

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not just one of the properties, I draw your

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attention,

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this is not one of the properties, this is the

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essence of literally God, love

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is

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love, this

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determines all other properties that

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we call God

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because we need to understand,

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understand especially when applied to man,

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then we need to understand the following, my friends,

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if there is no love

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where there is no love, there is no

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truth, there is no

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truth in I don’t say, there is

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no mercy, there is no beauty, there is

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nothing, if there is no love, look for

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any of this not just one of the properties

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along with others, but

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this is the essence,

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if you want, of all the other properties by

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which we are forced to define God

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when we talk about him,

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he is love, they have love,

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this understanding of God

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turned out to be

00:28:46

unprecedented and is

00:28:48

still the case today.

00:28:52

causes

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causes among

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people far from the peasantry causes a

00:29:02

protest

00:29:03

at best misunderstanding

00:29:07

objection

00:29:09

resistance and so on

00:29:16

by the way in relation to the

00:29:20

comparison of this New Testament

00:29:22

understanding of God as love and at least the

00:29:25

Old Testament as

00:29:27

justice or as truth

00:29:31

or as justice,

00:29:33

if you like, very many holy fathers said very well

00:29:39

I For example, I’ll read you a quote from

00:29:42

Isaac the Syrian,

00:29:43

who said simply very strongly in

00:29:46

relation to this, it’s worth remembering for you,

00:29:48

my friends, it’s very worth remembering, I ask you, here

00:29:53

he writes

00:29:55

mercy, so he calls love and

00:29:59

justice in one soul,

00:30:02

also that a person who

00:30:07

worships God and idol in the same house

00:30:10

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00:30:14

yes, it’s generally incredible

00:30:18

to call justice to idols,

00:30:23

mercy, justice in one soul

00:30:26

is also that a person who

00:30:30

worships God and idols in the same house, he writes

00:30:34

further,

00:30:35

mercy is the opposite of justice

00:30:39

when they met such

00:30:43

mercy is the opposite of justice,

00:30:47

justice is the

00:30:49

equalization of the exact measure because he

00:30:53

gives to everyone what he worthy and

00:30:58

mercy is

00:31:01

sadness

00:31:02

aroused by grace and

00:31:06

compassionately bows to everyone who is worthy of

00:31:10

evil does

00:31:11

not repay him with evil and

00:31:15

who is worthy of good

00:31:17

is filled with abundance

00:31:22

and

00:31:23

then repeats again like hay and fire

00:31:29

cannot tolerate being in the same house,

00:31:33

so justice and mercy in one soul,

00:31:42

here it is new the teaching is not

00:31:48

an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, it is

00:31:53

completely different,

00:31:55

just as hay and fire

00:31:58

cannot stand to be in the same house, so

00:32:02

justice and mercy are in one soul

00:32:11

Isaac the Syrian

00:32:13

here he writes about these things to apply

00:32:16

so to a person,

00:32:19

but this just shows

00:32:24

shows what relates to God who

00:32:28

he is and here, my friends, here

00:32:34

a lot of questions also arise:

00:32:41

God is love, what kind of love

00:32:43

at once, what kind of

00:32:51

Christ was God's man and

00:32:53

he had a favorite disciple,

00:32:59

it's about me, it's even gone from him, saying we'll

00:33:02

all have

00:33:05

one word in

00:33:08

Greek language a few words even

00:33:11

a lot of words

00:33:14

a lot of words in Greek

00:33:18

and

00:33:20

you are a [ __ ] in power in perego

00:33:24

I office

00:33:26

agapi and

00:33:28

press how many words

00:33:34

Cassian the Roman

00:33:35

very well shows the difference between

00:33:40

according to Kramer two most important

00:33:43

concepts that you and I

00:33:46

definitely need to know

00:33:47

in order to understand by the way and

00:33:51

and that’s

00:33:53

when we read in the Gospel about love for

00:33:56

enemies about love for neighbors,

00:34:01

remember his phrase he writes and

00:34:06

so

00:34:07

Cassian the Roman is drunk and so that love

00:34:13

which is called agapi

00:34:17

as everyone studied the Greek language, everyone

00:34:20

knows about the city it is

00:34:22

called agapi and

00:34:25

it is possible to show it to everyone

00:34:30

The apostle speaks about it

00:34:32

in the Epistle to the Galatians,

00:34:33

he writes, I explain what. to everyone, that is,

00:34:38

not to wish harm to anyone, to wish well to everyone,

00:34:40

to wish good to everyone, and

00:34:44

then continues a

00:34:47

deaf isis,

00:34:51

that is, the heartfelt disposition

00:34:56

turns out to be very few,

00:35:03

by the way, the answer to the fact that Christ had a

00:35:09

beloved disciple and she

00:35:11

John Cassian the Roman recalls this deaf

00:35:14

isis uses this sin this Greek

00:35:17

word but there is another word that

00:35:20

appear fillet and

00:35:23

this is the same thing

00:35:26

deaf isis this is a heartfelt disposition

00:35:30

that I have so much in relation to

00:35:32

some

00:35:33

due to some kind of special spiritual

00:35:37

closeness, spiritual closeness,

00:35:41

this is what is sometimes close to falling in

00:35:44

love, even a

00:35:46

gopi it is necessary to have

00:35:52

equal love for everyone, to show everyone both friends and

00:35:56

enemies,

00:35:58

not to wish harm on anyone

00:36:06

when we talk about

00:36:10

God,

00:36:12

here all these concepts are Greek, they

00:36:17

all come together in

00:36:18

general, the saints say that one

00:36:22

concept is enough, this is love, that what it

00:36:25

contains all the others all the others good

00:36:29

qualities that only we can

00:36:31

imagine,

00:36:33

but

00:36:35

the main thing is that I draw your attention to the fact that

00:36:38

love is injustice is

00:36:43

completely different and

00:36:46

what I read to you is this quote from

00:36:50

Isaac the Syrian, I said wonderful,

00:36:53

of course, a quote that

00:36:56

shows us all the difference

00:36:59

between going without to the cherished understanding

00:37:01

of God and the New Testament,

00:37:07

what does it mean that God loves a person

00:37:15

from many, of course, when we say the word

00:37:19

love, he understands understand it in the

00:37:23

sense as we understand it in our

00:37:27

distorted state of

00:37:31

whom we love there we simplify everything in the world,

00:37:34

at least a lot of

00:37:36

whom we do not love so we struggle over

00:37:40

every little thing, that’s

00:37:41

all our love,

00:37:45

that is, this is what speaks about the absence of

00:37:48

love,

00:37:49

even these are the most basic fundamental

00:37:53

agapi and agapi

00:37:55

it demands benevolence towards

00:38:00

everyone, but benevolence is in

00:38:03

itself it does not at all mean

00:38:07

equal equal treatment

00:38:11

relationship of life equal relationship

00:38:15

is very important my friends to understand

00:38:19

why to kill is put in prison

00:38:25

the same thing as a criminal thief

00:38:31

why this should be done

00:38:33

why when the holy prince Vladimir

00:38:36

adopted

00:38:37

Christianity decided to let go of history

00:38:40

to open all prisons and you said it yourself

00:38:43

Greek bishops what are you doing you are an

00:38:46

accomplice of evil

00:38:47

they are good, you are not doing good to people, but you are

00:38:52

bringing evil, what will now happen

00:38:55

in your people

00:38:59

holy tions uttered a great truth,

00:39:03

there is no virtue without reasoning on the

00:39:12

great, this is truly a great truth

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