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Hello Oleg, I’m glad to welcome you

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as well. Greetings, I’m glad to see and hear,

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it seems, like big steps, Europe

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has done so much, it has carried out everything and

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sanctions, refusal of supplies,

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cooperation, but these are these

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hesitations, what else does the European

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state need to finally, Europe

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has built a course without the Russian Federation,

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in fact, a lot, since now this is

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happening under the pressure of the actions of the

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Russian Federation, the world is horrified by

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what the true face of Russia is, the world understands the

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threats to itself, in particular Europe,

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respectively, the first topic in which

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decisive actions were taken was the

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security of the European

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space and in fact, Russia

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was deleted from security planning,

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taken out of the brackets, now Russia

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is seen as the Key threat in the

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European space For

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security beyond this, the energy

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sector was more difficult for it. Well, here, too, a

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decision was made and further than we

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will move and when we reach culture, we

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will see how decisiveness and readiness

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it will melt and actually decrease,

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more questions will appear

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regarding whether it is worth it or not in what

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forms, in fact, as long as this

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inertia remains, that is, Russia

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will not be taken out of the brackets of all

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European processes until this moment

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and there will be constant throwing around in the political field

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A how to act Europe Already

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understands how not to understand that Russia

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is not part of these processes But they are

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really trying to

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decide what to do with it due to the different

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dependence of contacts of business

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political cultural these processes

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occur at different speeds in different

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countries but it should reach the point that in

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educational sphere, Russian narratives will be thrown out,

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views on the entire

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Eastern Europe on the post-Soviet

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space after the Russian imperial

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space, the need for bilateral

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dialogues and, relatively speaking, the history of Ukraine

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should not be viewed through Russian

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eyes, the history of Moldova, the history of

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Kazakhstan, they should be viewed

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purely through the eyes of scientists and the society of these

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peoples, together with partners from Germany to

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France and other states, and

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unfortunately, there is still inertia,

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business ties must be replaced by

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others, exactly the same thing happened in the

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energy sector. Now it is necessary for any

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Western companies to find other

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markets for alternative

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suppliers. In fact, these

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broken ties with Russia must

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be replaced by others, just as in areas

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less obvious logistics and others,

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then we will really be able to talk

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about the world post Russia in the status in

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which we are accustomed to see so far we

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are still in Transit there

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when the issue of

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European states delaying deliveries with the

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help or with the introduction of some kind of

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sanctions is discussed, every time we emphasize that

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this price for Ukraine is very high, this is

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the Price of life, this is what Ukraine pays with

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delay like this. What is the price for

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European states, what do they pay

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when they delay sanctions

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issues like this, on supplies, or in other or

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any other issues,

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part of their sovereignty they lose

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part of its sovereign future

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because in Russia nothing goes

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separately from politics from geopolitics from

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their influence when we talk about diplomacy

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It always goes hand in hand with intelligence agencies

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about information It always goes hand in hand with

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propaganda in business it always goes hand in

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hand with corruption and political

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influences bribes we talk about culture

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we always talk about a tool for promoting

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influence and building our own

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narratives relative to other

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hostile narratives, that is, when

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Europe does not yet refuse

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any contacts with Russia It

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poisons itself, it poisons the future It

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allows Russia to have its own

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influence its own share percentage of shares

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where -the controlling stake is somewhere smaller.

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Thank God, this

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block of Russian shares is smaller and smaller in the future of Europe,

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but nevertheless they leave these

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loopholes. This is a question of national

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security of the future for European states,

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otherwise then it will be converted into what

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coup attempts in

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Montenegro support polarizing

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political forces, for example, the extreme left and the

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extreme right Greece Italy Germany

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attempts to remove the government appoint a

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government to Bulgaria for example, even there are

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many different cases and

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examples of what a fairly

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high influence of Russia leads to, you know here how

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with a certain chronic disease

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when a small amount of immunity

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can cope and you can pretend that

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this is actually not critical. But as soon as the

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presence of a

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given conditional conditional infection crosses a certain line, then

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immediately the immune system ceases to give

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enough resistance and then a

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geometric progression begins; the influence of the

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body suffers from this very, very

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noticeably, and so approximately from

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Russia Russians in small doses it

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can be almost imperceptible, even But

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as soon as it crosses a certain line

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it becomes critical for the survival of the

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organisms themselves, you say yes, many

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will need to be replaced by logistical

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issues and so on, but in essence Europe

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needs a Strategy after the

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Putin regime and one of its main components

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is the protection of international law and

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human dignity of any people

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in any country, so said the Ambassador of the

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European Union to the USA Let's hear

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his opinion Putin tried to kill two

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birds with one stone to destroy the

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Ukrainians on their land to wipe out an

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independent country from the face of the earth And also

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to destroy the architecture of the world order of

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which the country peace we all created together

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after the Second World War, Europe

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is obliged to stand up for international

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law and the human dignity of any

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people in any country in the world Stavroz

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Lambrinedis Ambassador of the European Union to the

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USA

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What do you think, your opinion, who will

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build this strategy, this is the

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political leadership, this is with the participation of the

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military leadership it

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will somehow be involved Society as when on the

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basis of what

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Well look, firstly it’s worth separating

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two questions and this quote is very

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indicative of the fact that the

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paradigm of perception of the Russian

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Ukrainian war is changing earlier And for all the years

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starting from 14 and to other conflicts

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for example

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the Transnistrian one or

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Russia’s aggression against Georgia, a

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model such as, let’s say,

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post-modern conflicts was used, that

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if two sides

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are at enmity, yes, indeed, one may

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no longer be right, but actually it is necessary

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and heard, it is necessary to sit down at the negotiating table anyway,

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it is necessary to look for a field of

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compromise, since most likely

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it means somewhere then the other side also

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missed something and, in general, to come to some

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desirable consensus decision, if that

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fails, then a compromise solution.

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The main thing is that people and this model

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is applied to our war for

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many years, it assumes that there is no

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clear culprit, no clear victim

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all these statuses are blurred, there are sides to

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the conflict and then you know, approximately what

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happens is that the criminal, a

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certain terrorist, is running on the street with a machete

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and hacking people, but the police are not trying to

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stop him, they are not ready to shoot him on the

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spot if they cannot detain her. She

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says, Let's talk to you,

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Let's find out let's find out from him

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why he decided to run down the street with a machete

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killing people, maybe

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someone offended him in childhood, maybe society

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was unfair to him,

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maybe we have institutions built in such a way

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that this person didn’t find himself

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and he had a nervous breakdown breakdown and, in

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general, begins this discussion and he

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continues to chop people with a machete and say

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Well, what’s stopping him? Well, wait.

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We need to find out first. This is the model

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that was suitable. It is now changing to

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another, so what if it’s a man with a

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machete running around and attacking innocent

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people then, probably, first of all,

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the criminal and not the party to the conflict

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who did not share something with his victims

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and figure out why it’s worth stopping

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first. This

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crime must be investigated and

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brought to justice. In general,

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first isolating him from society is

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what is happening now with Russia.

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this is a paradigm change This is what

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Mr. Ambassador of the European Union to the

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United States was talking about, he just

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focused on the fact that

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Russia’s aggression against Ukraine is not

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only a Russian-Ukrainian war and the

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actual attack on the Ukrainians as a

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two-sided conflict. The conflict is also an attempt

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to destroy all the principles on which

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based on peace in the world and the possibility of it

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continuing the possibility of maintaining

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this peace that everyone does not fight with everyone and

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wars are not a key tool for

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resolving various disputes and then the role of

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peace is to stop Russia as a key

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threat to the whole world of order for the

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world legal system which it

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denies and the place of power is trying to be the right

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of power and this is a question that goes far beyond

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the likes of the Ukrainians we don’t like

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the supported we don’t support what

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political geopolitical other

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alignments we have This is a question of supporting Ukraine

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as an investment in a stable future and

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restoring the

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ability of the world of order to protect itself

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from aggression against it and when it

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goes we are talking about the future of Russia, in fact,

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this is a conversation in this

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mentally ill person regarding after

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he bears responsibility,

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accordingly, this is a conversation not only about the

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political regime of Russia, but about

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how to get society out of this state

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into which it is a trance that the

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Putin regime has plunged the Russians into, it has put

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everything on the worst thing that is in Russian

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culture in the Russian social

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structure, he didn’t come up with anything new

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Putin is a product of flesh from flesh

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blood from the blood of Russian society,

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Putin didn’t invent the Russians, the Russians wanted

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and sprouted, brought up

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and further the field of wealth for the

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Putin regime, but nevertheless he is

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of course for all this time has aggravated all

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this worst and

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generation 2 in Russia will have to come out of this and how the

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world can live with such a Russia. And the most interesting thing is

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how Russia can live with the whole world after this

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and this is the conversation about

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the future of Russia itself and about what the

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territory of the Post of Russia will be

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politically and socially and economically and

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culturally, these all spheres one way or another

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will be a field of serious and are already

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serious expert dialogue, and from the

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moment when Russia became a thorn and a

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problem for the whole world and now

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Ukrainians are paying with their lives and blood for the

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mistakes of Russian society Let's call it

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very mildly. And the world is now losing years

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that it could have spent on improving

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social well-being, innovation,

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science, etc. It is forced to spend this money and

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time on stopping threats from the

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crazy Putin regime and

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Russian society. Of course, from this

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moment on, the future of Russia will be

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demonopolized; it will no longer be in

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the hands of only Russian society, it

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will be in the hands of the international community

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and those who are ready to take

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responsibility for the future of Russia

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because believe me, there won’t be many people willing to rake

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these stables on the territory of Russia with

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Russians.

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This is not the most enviable job and Unfortunately, Ukraine

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will have to deal with it to some extent

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because we need a

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safe space to the north and

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east of us and at least one or two

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generations of Ukrainians who will live in

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peace will be able to develop Ukraine without the threat of an

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attack from our aggressive neighbor

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to discuss strategies. Yes, how will

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cooperation be? with Russia What form

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will Russia be after the victory of Ukraine Yes, this is the

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second question, the first question is the

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key one, how to stop this

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aggression now, and you too Kurt Walker,

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American diplomat, former special prince,

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special chairman, US representative for

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Ukrainian affairs, he also said that yes, there

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must be constructive relations, this

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everything will be decided later. Now

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it is necessary to defeat Russian

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weapons with all our might. Let's hear

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Walker's opinion; many Russians are already fleeing

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their country; they are trying to save

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their lives, their wealth, their families and

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their opportunities in the future. The West must

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pursue a policy aimed

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at reaching out to the Russian people

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and showing that, unlike their

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own government, We have

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friendly intentions towards

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them if not their ruling elite However,

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the West must also clearly understand that

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in order to achieve these goals, the Russian

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people must confront the crimes

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committed in the name of Vladimi Putin and

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take responsibility for them

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Kurt Walker American diplomat former

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US special representative for Ukraine

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this is really the Key thing at the

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moment, but you know in the question that then you

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yourself say yes, the Russians themselves

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chose Putin and on the one hand

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there is some kind of Well, I don’t know, demonization

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may be Putin, see this is

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Putin’s regime Russians control everything But

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there are also those who go with pleasure

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to kill Ukrainians, it was not Putin who forced

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their desire from them. This is some kind of

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hatred to kill to destroy another

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people. Well, what is not understanding is that constantly

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being in this propaganda is

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another question, but still its own this brain is

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somehow needed for analysis before some kind of

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what I mean, let’s assume yes, the Russian

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Federation after Putin the regime is changing,

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there is a different one there will be a king,

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not a king, what will this

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person be called, but will the catfish here change with the

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change of another person Is it possible that something

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needs to change in

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society itself so that, well, that’s how

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Ukraine went after the

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collapse of the Soviet Union, went in a

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democratic way, which prevented the

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Russian Federation.

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Well, here we need to understand in general on the right

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that the ruler of another government

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can be found, but the people are different

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for Russia will not come from anywhere, and

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each society lives by its own

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historical experience, which is formed by

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certain cultural and other foundations of

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behavior, what this society considers

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right or wrong, acceptable,

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unacceptable, what better future it sees,

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what, on the contrary, is the worst, what is the worst of this

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society, what is it afraid of, what does it not

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want, this very different here People to

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people and when to say that

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Ukraine has taken a different path Yes,

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because we have a completely different historical

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experience, we have different models of behavior, we have a

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different model of organization at the level of

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society. We can see this now,

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starting from the army where the army is always there

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continuation of the people It bears

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all the same problems and

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stamps from the times of the Soviet Union, but

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they manifest themselves differently in smaller

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quantities because this is a culture of

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self-organization that is present in

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society, it manifests itself and there it

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manifests itself, self-government is an

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anarchic culture of struggle against any

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hierarchies as soon as

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unjust ones arise hierarchy in Ukraine immediately

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rebels. In general, this is what created

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our democratic trajectory.

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But unlike, for example, the Baltic

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countries there from Poland, from the point of view of the

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development of the rule of law, we have very

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big problems because also,

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unlike them, our culture has a completely

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different attitude towards the law and when we

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talk about Russians, they have a whole series of

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cultural attitudes that provoke

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aggressiveness and which legitimize it

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in general, make violence acceptable when

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discussions with a number of Western experts

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very often like to analyze Russia,

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Sovietologists or

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logians are people who are used to thinking

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exclusively that there is a regime there Poli

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what something he came up with in the Kremlin and,

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accordingly, everything depends on it, and

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Putin has all the tools of

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propaganda, he wants to

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twist the ram’s horn of Russian society, but it’s

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not true, they forget about the foundations on

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which the life of Russian society I

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like to tease them periodically with

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what I say If you are already well versed

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in Russia, then explain to me what it means

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to drink, to mean loved,

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or to be afraid, to mean respected, or many

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others, you can take fairy tales from sayings

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from models of wealth I am the boss

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You are a fool, for example, a proverb of

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those things of those foundations by which

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Russian society lives, even here in everyday life

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at a low level in the family and work

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collective and which carry within themselves

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this aggressiveness and the willingness to

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recognize it as an acceptable measure. After all, if

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they are afraid, then they respect. Therefore,

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all of these will have to work within

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Russian society itself, since the world

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can live without Russia and now the world

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remembers this and returns to the beginning of

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our discussion, the key point here is

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that the world must admit to itself, understand

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that it can live without Russia and build

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this world without Russia exactly so that

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later Russia can be returned to it, and a

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place can be prescribed for it that it can

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take in civilized Russia. Well, the

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task is set by the apparatus Russia cannot live without peace;

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Russia will not be transferred to another planet

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and They will have to live with all of us on the

00:18:04

same planet and learn to live by different

00:18:06

rules; adapt and questions Now

00:18:09

About the future of Russia, this is about how Russia

00:18:12

can adapt; How to work with

00:18:14

Russian society; the political regime

00:18:16

will not change. different regimes will change,

00:18:18

there will be several state

00:18:19

territories, there will be one state, this is a

00:18:21

secondary issue. The key is How

00:18:24

to revive this society, which

00:18:26

is initially

00:18:28

susceptible to such regimes. This is not

00:18:32

Putin’s first aggression in Chechnya, for example.

00:18:34

This is not Putin, this was Yeltsin, but the Soviet

00:18:37

period. Where to put Russia so far did not

00:18:39

condemn Soviet crimes and the

00:18:42

Soviet regime The criminal did not condemn the

00:18:46

colonization efforts of the Russian

00:18:48

Empire, unlike other

00:18:50

European empires that looked at the horrors

00:18:53

of colonialism through the eyes of the colonized and

00:18:55

abandoned this policy And today

00:18:57

Putin speaks Peter failed But

00:19:00

for us the Sea of Azov has become internal And

00:19:02

these are historical the lands of Russia and all these

00:19:05

peoples are the same Russians, only

00:19:08

who were fooled there, he speaks to

00:19:10

the categories of the 18th century in Europe, this makes your

00:19:13

hair stand on end because the

00:19:15

French are British. They abandoned these

00:19:18

forms. They understand how terrible it

00:19:20

sounds, cannibals, but for Russians this is

00:19:23

normal, this is acceptable. to condemn all

00:19:25

these chronic

00:19:28

ailments of Russian society to abandon the

00:19:31

ideas of the Great Culture, ordinary culture,

00:19:34

any culture is Great, that there are no

00:19:37

kilograms or joules to measure it in anything, to

00:19:39

abandon the idea of a small

00:19:41

person who does not solve anything,

00:19:43

who poisons the entire Russian

00:19:45

structure, there are no small people, there are

00:19:47

the same people and they decide or don’t

00:19:49

decide, it’s everyone’s responsibility,

00:19:51

so when it comes to the

00:19:52

responsibility of Russian society, it’s

00:19:54

very manipulative now Russia is

00:19:57

trying on an image for itself in the 21st century,

00:19:59

saying that they are canceled everywhere, not

00:20:02

allowed into restaurants, and in general they are

00:20:04

treated like lepers, since this is a

00:20:07

Collective responsibility there is nothing

00:20:09

like this it is not about collective

00:20:11

responsibility it is about the responsibility of

00:20:13

every citizen of Russia he is now not a

00:20:15

subject not in the Empire he lives in a

00:20:18

republic where at least nominally

00:20:21

there were elections where the citizen

00:20:23

is a sovereign of the state and

00:20:25

also bears part of the responsibility and not only the

00:20:27

rights and freedoms of Russians with these

00:20:30

they neglected their responsibilities,

00:20:33

they did not protect the world, but

00:20:36

the regime actually exploded, they allowed it to

00:20:38

now begin to feed on the blood of not

00:20:42

only their own society, but also other

00:20:43

states, in particular Ukrainians, this is

00:20:45

the responsibility of every Russian, a

00:20:47

citizen of Russia, not on an ethnic

00:20:49

basis, not on a religious basis, but

00:20:51

because if you have a passport as a

00:20:52

citizen of Russia, which presupposes both

00:20:54

rights and responsibilities,

00:20:57

these are the task of decolonization, where is

00:21:00

imperialization, this is also a

00:21:03

question. This is a task for the Western

00:21:05

partners for the world as a whole. If we talk

00:21:08

about what this can be From the outside or

00:21:10

maybe from the inside But from the inside we Discussed with

00:21:12

you before Society, this is how it works, maybe

00:21:15

the coup that is now being talked about will play some role

00:21:17

Many are

00:21:18

talking about some kind of changes in the Kremlin

00:21:21

What are we talking about now, some

00:21:24

kind of insidious struggle for power is intensifying,

00:21:25

a split between groups influence on Putin is

00:21:28

growing Well, here is one of the groups This is

00:21:32

Prigozhin, she can really demolish a

00:21:34

bloody dictator from the throne

00:21:37

Christ the Thunderstorm spoke about this in the head of the

00:21:38

independent international

00:21:40

intelligence community billing -

00:21:42

This Let's listen to his opinion now,

00:21:45

there is a new branch in the tower system and

00:21:49

this is only worse for Putin because

00:21:51

it casts even more doubt on the

00:21:53

stability of his power and, by the way, One day the

00:21:55

Hawks group, united around

00:21:58

Prigozhin, may eventually remove

00:22:00

Putin to really enjoy power. They wo

00:22:03

n’t have to do it for too long, because the overthrow of the

00:22:05

previous leader will automatically become a

00:22:08

signal for the suppressed Russian

00:22:10

elite, the latter will do everything to

00:22:12

organize a free A Russia in which it

00:22:15

will be better to live, first of all, for

00:22:16

owners of large capital,

00:22:18

Christosrozev, head of the independent

00:22:20

international intelligence

00:22:22

community, bellingcat, your opinion, is there

00:22:25

really a split going on or is it just a game for the

00:22:28

public, will it lead to something

00:22:31

changing, will anything

00:22:33

be degrading the regimes that

00:22:35

trigger political competition the fact

00:22:37

that Prigozhin crawled out under the spotlight and began to

00:22:39

build up his military muscles

00:22:42

indicates that he is accumulating

00:22:45

hitherto unknown resources will

00:22:48

not be political struggle or Kadyrov or

00:22:50

Shoigu, who is also acquiring his own army,

00:22:53

local governors

00:22:55

who are sharply thinking about their

00:22:56

political image and also the presence of

00:22:58

your own power bloc, that is, now

00:23:01

being close to Putin, the ability

00:23:03

to whisper in your ear is no longer a

00:23:05

key resource for building this

00:23:09

internal hierarchy before, who was the

00:23:11

coolest kid in the Russian village,

00:23:13

someone could go to Putin and influence

00:23:15

his decision now no longer now no longer

00:23:17

the one who has his own private army, who

00:23:20

has his hangers-on in the media

00:23:22

who will cover him in his

00:23:25

activities and lick him from all sides

00:23:28

so that he shines as brightly as possible

00:23:30

for the people, that

00:23:31

is, the resources have changed, these are changes

00:23:35

in the regime itself and its degradation of those

00:23:38

rules of yesterday which were still there and

00:23:40

here the Kremlin is starting to play back and Putin is starting to play the

00:23:42

role of the reactor, they are setting the trend,

00:23:46

in fact today it is no longer Putin’s person that

00:23:48

everything is decided. And how the internal political competition will be built,

00:23:53

Putin has the biggest action yet,

00:23:55

but it is stagnating and now he

00:23:58

can only point his finger at those who

00:24:00

actually de facto appeared before him on the

00:24:05

way to this internal

00:24:07

political struggle, or rather, as a result of a

00:24:09

non-political struggle, another thing is that

00:24:12

this idea that

00:24:16

Putin’s regime will be overthrown and this will lead to

00:24:20

some better other Russia, it

00:24:22

is very Dangerous Russia has already

00:24:24

changed the appearance of its regime many times, but

00:24:28

at the same time Yeltsin remained the same,

00:24:30

coming up with this thing as a kind of absolutely

00:24:33

New era in the future of Russia and the

00:24:37

relationship between the world and Russia, and

00:24:40

all claims that were

00:24:42

against the Soviet Union and regarding the

00:24:43

gulags were immediately removed And regarding the wars that were

00:24:46

unleashed, internal repressions. In

00:24:48

general, all the problems that were removed were

00:24:50

written off, as if we were facing a completely

00:24:53

new regime that was starting to have a blank

00:24:55

sheet. And it was really new, it

00:24:58

mimicked and the rest were all the same

00:25:00

people, absolutely all the same rules,

00:25:03

only under a new guise or The Soviet

00:25:05

Union, which emerged from the ruins of the

00:25:07

Russian Empire, all the problems of

00:25:08

the Russian Empire were written off. All

00:25:11

claims against it regarding its policies regarding

00:25:12

transformation, etc., after all, we have a new State in front of us

00:25:14

and what this state

00:25:17

did aggravated all the same

00:25:19

chronic problems that were in the

00:25:21

Russian Empire; it became the same

00:25:22

prison peoples only now in even

00:25:25

more modern modernized

00:25:27

forms, after all, the Soviet Union at first It

00:25:29

was a very modernist and modern

00:25:32

form of structure and technologically, in

00:25:34

different parameters, after all, it was

00:25:36

largely built on American

00:25:37

capital, or rather American technologies,

00:25:40

and on European capital, so it cannot be

00:25:42

allowed that now Russia with

00:25:45

the new ones have mimicked the internal ones The palace

00:25:47

coup demolishes Putin Putinism

00:25:49

is miming and the new

00:25:52

leaders are saying so we are completely

00:25:54

different we are qualitatively different we

00:25:57

have nothing in common with the Putin regime and

00:25:59

bear no obligations problems of

00:26:01

responsibility that were there before

00:26:03

you understand society was besotted by the

00:26:05

regime it can’t solve anything That’s

00:26:07

all Putin of the elite, we sat simply and

00:26:09

understood that we would be destroyed if we did not

00:26:11

speak out against it, but we decided, we

00:26:13

did it, now there is no clean slate,

00:26:15

there is nothing like a clean slate,

00:26:17

so it is not true to say that

00:26:19

if the Putin regime crumbles, it will immediately be an

00:26:22

absolutely alternative qualitatively

00:26:24

better future. This is only a window of

00:26:27

opportunity because

00:26:29

the trajectory of development within

00:26:32

Russia itself may change, it may become more civilized.

00:26:34

But this is by no means a guarantee and,

00:26:36

moreover, these are the risks of mimicry because the

00:26:39

world will want to believe that Russia

00:26:41

has changed and so we need to limit ourselves from this

00:26:43

and understand perfectly well that we

00:26:45

can deal with a forgery that we

00:26:47

have already gone through more than once and are

00:26:49

now paying too high a price for it, the whole

00:26:51

world and Ukraine, first of all, and it is important Yes, so

00:26:53

that this really

00:26:54

happens again in the future Thank you very much Alexa

00:26:56

Ocean, the political scientist was on air today on the

00:26:59

information marathon on TV channel

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