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Hello friends on air Free00:00:08
Press with you Vladimir00:00:11
Lebedev00:00:13
studio guest Georgy Kamnev Secretary of the Communist Party Central Committee00:00:18
Member of the Presidium of the Party Deputy of00:00:20
the State00:00:21
Duma We will talk about the country's economy00:00:25
from the point of view of an ordinary citizen00:00:28
Hello00:00:30
Hello Vladimir Hello00:00:33
viewers a hot topic in recent days00:00:38
or even weeks Russia's fifth place in the00:00:43
ranking economies00:00:46
of the world, it is necessary to immediately clarify00:00:49
that00:00:51
this rating00:00:54
was calculated on the basis of00:00:56
purchasing00:00:57
power parity and they stipulate00:01:01
that for Russia they do not have very high-00:01:03
quality data, that is, apparently00:01:06
unreliable or incomplete, and yet00:01:09
what does Russia’s fifth place mean and why,00:01:14
with such an00:01:15
economy, we are only twentieth place00:01:17
in terms of00:01:18
budget Yes, Vladimir, you are absolutely right00:01:22
that it is according to this rating that we00:01:25
occupy fifth place in general ratings.00:01:27
It is clear that there is a huge amount because00:01:29
different data can be used to00:01:31
evaluate certain states differently,00:01:34
for example, as00:01:35
for the00:01:37
purchasing power parity rating, the00:01:39
point of the study is00:01:41
that, roughly speaking, they00:01:45
very roughly say how many goods00:01:47
a person can00:01:49
buy with one salary, or, for example, you can00:01:52
tie it to some foreign00:01:54
currency, let’s say how much is O dollar,00:01:58
for example, or 1 euro, how many goods00:02:00
and services can a person buy in that00:02:03
or in another00:02:04
country it is absolutely obvious that life,00:02:07
for example in Europe, life is acceptable there in the00:02:11
United States, well, how would I say, it is00:02:14
objectively more expensive than, for example, life in00:02:16
some poor African00:02:19
countries, let’s assume, and different services,00:02:22
or rather, the same services Well,00:02:24
about the same of the same quality,00:02:26
relatively speaking, will cost differently00:02:29
Yes, somewhere there I don’t know, for example,00:02:32
some kind of household services somewhere, fixing a faucet00:02:33
will cost there, for example, 100 dollars00:02:35
Yes, but somewhere around 5000:02:37
cents and estimating this is the00:02:40
quantity and volume of services which00:02:43
can be purchased for a certain00:02:45
amount of money, you can understand00:02:49
what00:02:50
standard of living they are00:02:52
in. Well, the state,00:02:55
let’s say, people who live in this00:02:58
state, that’s why, according to one of the00:03:01
ratings, Russia is in fifth00:03:04
place. But there are other ratings, for example,00:03:07
in terms of the size of the economy, our country00:03:08
is well so just below tenth00:03:11
place. This is about eleventh00:03:13
tenth ninth depending on the year, and00:03:17
this is the rating, it is considered00:03:20
the main rating for calculating00:03:23
how strong the state is in principle.00:03:26
You can, for example, take as a basis00:03:29
its00:03:30
difference and the meaning of what I spoke about00:03:34
from the rostrum of the State The Duma that, after00:03:36
all, our state occupies a00:03:38
fairly high place in such00:03:41
ratings, for example, in terms of the volume of the economy00:03:43
there in terms of purchasing00:03:45
power parity, but some very00:03:48
low places in those ratings. Everything that00:03:52
concerns there, for example, social affairs and the lives of00:03:54
people directly here, another important00:03:57
question is how stable it is we are00:04:00
in one place or another because China,00:04:03
for example, knows for sure that in 1000:04:05
and there in 25 years it will be in first place00:04:08
in terms of GDP. And00:04:12
we, yes, the difference from China, in my00:04:16
opinion, is that in China, after all, Well, not00:04:19
so so that it’s a completely planned economy, but00:04:21
there is a definite plan according to which they00:04:24
move;00:04:26
they don’t, let’s say, reflect the way00:04:29
our00:04:32
economy reflects. Well, by the way, this also00:04:34
has pros and cons when the00:04:37
economy responds to some external challenges00:04:41
faster, but in China They have a00:04:44
forecast plan until 2050 and they have already00:04:48
had it in place for a long time and they, like00:04:51
such a big ship, are gradually00:04:53
gaining00:04:54
momentum and moving towards this00:04:57
level in many indicators they have already00:05:00
achieved first place Now they have00:05:03
parity with the United States and in general00:05:06
for It’s no secret that in00:05:07
a few years they will already overtake the00:05:10
United States, unless00:05:11
some kind of emergency happens,00:05:15
we don’t have any such large-scale plan,00:05:17
our entire economy is built on00:05:19
reflection, that’s what will happen tomorrow, that’s how we00:05:22
’ll live - very00:05:24
short-term plans, government plans are00:05:26
constantly changing, but if you go a little00:05:28
deeper, for example,00:05:30
the government regarding the00:05:32
support of certain00:05:35
sectors of the economy or the economy, then you00:05:38
can generally grab your head because00:05:40
today it may be different in a month00:05:43
in 2 months in general according to the00:05:45
Third for manufacturers be it00:05:48
agricultural producers or industrial00:05:50
producers, this is an incredible00:05:52
headache because no one knows at the beginning of00:05:55
the year what this year is,00:05:58
the law was read yesterday, for example,00:06:03
that the subsidy for the purchase of an00:06:07
electric car was00:06:09
raised to 900 there 915,000 rubles just00:06:15
for example Yes, that00:06:17
means A was 500 Well it was there 600,00000:06:20
rubles have now been raised, they said that then00:06:22
it will drop to 400,00000:06:25
or there won’t be any at all, and the manufacturers00:06:30
here will allow electric cars at the beginning of00:06:32
the year, they are there or even in the middle of the year,00:06:35
they don’t know what00:06:37
the rate will be. Why am I talking about electric cars,00:06:40
well such innovative technologies00:06:42
that are now going on there are like such a00:06:45
locomotive for industry in general,00:06:47
maybe not only in our country00:06:50
in general, in principle in China there are also a00:06:52
lot of them. Well, what do I want to say? Now00:06:54
they have accepted such a rate by the end of the year00:06:56
A what will happen next year,00:06:58
no one knows00:07:00
How to calculate for a manufacturer there,00:07:02
for example, this electric car, what00:07:04
financial strategy we should build00:07:06
Nobody knows if the government00:07:08
said, for example, for 3 years. There will be00:07:10
these conditions, they will definitely remain00:07:13
unchanged. Then it’s clear how to00:07:15
increase production00:07:17
capacity there and so on and so forth, but00:07:20
returning to the thesis that you00:07:22
said at the beginning, Vladimir, that we will00:07:24
talk about how people in our00:07:27
country are alive. Note that, for example,00:07:32
Maternity capital00:07:35
for children is about00:07:39
400,000 rubles, 600,000 rubles, 400,000 rubles and It00:07:44
seemed strange to me Why, for example, we have a00:07:47
person who buys an electric car and00:07:50
for one electric car we give you a subsidy of00:07:52
more than 900 thousand rubles from the state00:07:55
if you are going to buy it.00:07:57
And if you give birth, they give 400,000 rubles or00:08:01
600,000 rubles, so it seemed00:08:05
strange to me It still seems that00:08:06
the priorities for the state should be00:08:09
different. In general, a person is the most valuable thing00:08:12
there is, and this is what is needed.00:08:13
Human capital, first of all, needs to be00:08:15
supported and should be the other way around. And the00:08:18
most valuable thing is a child, a00:08:20
human life. Let’s00:08:22
support this here as much as possible Moreover,00:08:24
we also have certain problems with the birth rate,00:08:26
we all00:08:28
know this very well, probably here we00:08:30
need more money, as it were,00:08:33
and also determine that payments there,00:08:35
for example, they will be stable, they will not00:08:37
change there for a certain00:08:38
number of years, but because because we00:08:41
cannot build such a long-term00:08:43
strategy due to the fact that we are00:08:45
constantly throwing around, we have constant reflection00:08:47
every day, we make some decisions,00:08:49
cancel them, make other decisions.00:08:51
We have such a discrepancy between00:08:53
subsidies and the state to a greater00:08:56
extent supporting the purchase00:08:58
electric car than Well, we have a00:09:01
law on strategic planning, it does00:09:03
n’t work, in my opinion it doesn’t work at all,00:09:05
in my opinion no. There are some00:09:08
general indicators that00:09:11
let’s live better. Let’s make sure that00:09:14
our industry develops, that00:09:16
we have agriculture00:09:18
Some abstract things have developed, but we need00:09:20
specifics so that people know exactly what00:09:22
will happen there over the course of several years,00:09:24
this is what it seems to me. Shows the00:09:27
seriousness of00:09:29
GOST. What our country is a leader in is the00:09:32
production of grains, for the second year00:09:34
we are collecting record harvests. Why bread00:09:38
is becoming more expensive,00:09:41
we export too much, in general, our country is00:09:44
too tied to foreign markets, you00:09:47
know the position of our party that we00:09:50
were against joining, for example, the WTO, what does this00:09:53
mean, this means not only00:09:56
bringing the entire regulatory framework,00:09:59
well, according to uniform standards, that is, this will00:10:01
already happen It’s not up to us, but what00:10:04
kind of decisions will be made there somewhere00:10:06
in other countries and it’s clear by whom? Yes, it’s the00:10:08
Western countries that we will be forced to00:10:11
apply all these standards, and we have a00:10:14
lot of bans on supporting various00:10:17
sectors of00:10:18
the economy and what’s the point? that00:10:21
we are very dependent on foreign markets and00:10:24
now the same thing is going up in price there,00:10:28
for example,00:10:29
on foreign markets we can’t Well, more precisely,00:10:33
we are poorly smoothing out these things, we00:10:36
must support our domestic00:10:38
market and these are the kind of price fluctuations00:10:41
they can be reflected there. I don’t know if00:10:44
they will be reflected in the cost of bread00:10:46
somewhere in Western countries there in the00:10:48
United States. Well, this doesn’t00:10:50
bother me much because I am a citizen of this00:10:52
country and let the state of other00:10:55
countries take care of their citizens. But we00:10:57
must take care of freedom and00:11:00
such distortions prices, they should not00:11:02
concern our citizens, the same thing,00:11:04
for example, with regard to fuel Yes, there00:11:07
were a lot of questions now about00:11:09
why the fuel was there. Well, it almost00:11:12
doubled just at the time00:11:14
when this bread was being harvested. What is this00:11:17
connected with? due to the fact that a00:11:20
number of production facilities there were00:11:24
assigned to technical work, let’s say00:11:27
a lot of fuel went abroad, but00:11:32
probably you still need to take care of00:11:33
yourself and not about sales abroad, first00:11:36
of all, this is the task of00:11:38
the state, so the state must00:11:43
compensate for these jumps in prices on00:11:46
international markets so that we citizens00:11:50
of Russia don’t notice this, to be honest, I00:11:53
don’t understand why, for example,00:11:55
grandparents are there, and any resident,00:11:58
for example, in the Serdob district of the00:11:59
Penza region, where I was elected from.00:12:01
Why should they keep track of how much00:12:03
grain costs on that means on the stock exchange? Yes, on the00:12:08
stock exchange there in in Amsterdam, for example, yes00:12:11
in general it shouldn’t concern them, it’s the00:12:14
state’s concern, it’s social00:12:17
security, uh, I think that’s why that’s why00:12:20
we’re back to the00:12:22
first question again. Yes, there’s no00:12:24
global strategy, there’s no such understanding,00:12:27
so the state is behind it. Well, somehow00:12:29
probably doesn’t pay much attention. Well, they give some00:12:31
small subsidies, maybe, but they do00:12:34
n’t cover00:12:36
the needs of the government in any way, despite the ban on the00:12:39
export of petroleum products, it seems that they have00:12:41
not been able to curb prices at gas stations. But00:12:45
in general, they can be overcome; prices for fuel;00:12:48
prices for00:12:50
food in a number of countries fuel prices in00:12:54
oil-producing countries fuel prices are00:12:56
quite00:12:57
low, it is known that there is no secret to this,00:13:01
they somehow managed to do it, they00:13:05
clearly share that there are foreign markets00:13:07
through which oil companies00:13:10
earn money for themselves,00:13:12
please, here you are,00:13:14
maximizing your profits, but that’s all As00:13:17
for domestic consumption,00:13:20
please provide this price for your citizens.00:13:22
If you do not agree, for00:13:24
example, the management of a company.00:13:26
There is no problem with this approach, let00:13:29
another management come who agrees with this00:13:30
and will act on the basis of00:13:32
this, some kind of company, for example a00:13:34
private one, will not I agree with this approach,00:13:36
for God’s sake, go away, another or a00:13:38
private company will come in a number of countries. Of course, we are00:13:40
in favor of the oil sector, the gas00:13:42
sector in general, the resource sector should00:13:45
belong only to the state, then00:13:46
state companies could00:13:48
do this, so let the state00:13:50
company00:13:51
do this. I believe that of course these00:13:53
prices It’s not that there’s00:13:56
no secret to this at all, there are two approaches,00:13:58
one approach is absolutely market-based00:14:00
Yes, and even if the government gets in there,00:14:05
well, it’s very easy, so God forbid it does00:14:07
n’t cause harm, so00:14:10
what is the goal for companies to maximize their00:14:12
profit if it can’t be done00:14:13
on foreign markets, for example, let’s say00:14:15
now they are starting to compensate for this00:14:18
at the expense of their own citizens, so it00:14:19
turns out to be an absolutely absurd situation00:14:23
when people are told that gasoline prices00:14:26
have increased because00:14:29
oil prices have increased on international markets. Yes, that’s why00:14:32
here we are and it’s like what we sell there00:14:35
what we sell here prices have increased prices have00:14:40
decreased world prices have decreased for00:14:42
oil, at our gas stations gasoline00:14:46
has risen in price again Why Because oil00:14:48
companies need to somehow compensate for the00:14:50
losses that they caused there, this is some kind of00:14:52
vicious Circle and we have this00:14:55
opinion imposes, no matter what happens00:14:57
on foreign markets, the sun00:15:00
has to take the rap anyway, this is of course00:15:02
wrong, what kind of approaches are these, this is a00:15:05
company for whose benefit I00:15:07
mean, for example, the oil companies in Chu, they00:15:09
work for the benefit, it’s unclear, but definitely not00:15:12
for the population. They, of course, maximize00:15:15
their profits they have big incomes,00:15:16
big profits, big00:15:18
investment projects there for God's sake, but not00:15:21
at the expense of00:15:23
citizens, they started talking about the nightly00:15:27
relations of Rosseti, the prolapse00:15:31
of the00:15:32
ban on enterprises to engage in00:15:34
internal generation without compensation to00:15:37
the network00:15:40
monopolist, the ordinary person who00:15:42
has heard for more than 30 years that market00:15:45
relations are all around is incomprehensible00:15:48
some kind of feudal relations, that is,00:15:51
in order to leave the00:15:53
Master, he is entitled to redemption00:15:57
payments00:15:59
from the00:16:01
feudal lords. Yes, I completely agree with you.00:16:04
This is actually real00:16:07
serfdom, and as for market00:16:09
relations, we have them so very00:16:11
selective, roughly speaking, if this is some00:16:15
kind of aspiring entrepreneur- then00:16:17
small or medium-sized businesses, then there’s00:16:20
a market for them. So you’re kind of in market00:16:23
relations, if it’s already some kind of00:16:25
serious monopolist, a serious player, then00:16:29
support the state. Well, for example,00:16:30
let’s say there are banks there when00:16:34
the crisis begins, there if, for example, the owner of00:16:38
some small one comes store and00:16:39
the state will say Help me00:16:41
please tell him Listen, well,00:16:42
you weren’t effective enough in market relations,00:16:47
bye, so do business somehow00:16:50
differently when the bank comes and says00:16:52
Look, this is how the situation has developed00:16:55
that we seem to have a very bad situation with00:16:56
money, please give us money and the00:16:59
state gives huge huge00:17:01
payments to banks in order to00:17:03
support them. I understand that this is an00:17:05
important sector, but still, we00:17:08
probably need to approach this a little differently,00:17:09
and if someone is not efficient,00:17:12
then probably you need to look at why00:17:14
it turned out to be ineffective, if00:17:17
some money was withdrawn there,00:17:18
then you need an appropriate punishment, we00:17:22
know that this also happens sometimes. But00:17:24
basically, for some reason, it is not possible to00:17:27
return the money that they took from people there00:17:30
and left, and these citizens themselves are00:17:33
outside the Russian Federation, this00:17:36
means that00:17:38
as for the fact that it is00:17:41
necessary to maintain these00:17:44
relations there and in general there. These are00:17:48
market relations. They should be00:17:50
there for everyone or not for everyone, we00:17:53
believe that it is necessary to support00:17:56
strategic industries there and so the00:17:59
decision that was made that, for00:18:02
example, you can’t leave the00:18:05
electricity supplier to engage in00:18:07
your own generation says something about the fact00:18:10
that the electricity supplier is00:18:13
absolutely ineffective. In these00:18:15
conditions, absolutely, and this is how much00:18:20
impudence you need to have to come to the00:18:22
head of state. Well, I saw these shots00:18:25
Yes, and talk about this, that is, translating00:18:27
into Russian what was said, we are00:18:29
not effective at all in this story,00:18:32
we absolutely do not want to be more00:18:35
effective, we want to receive higher00:18:37
wages and, in principle, we,00:18:39
as the management of this whole thing, are00:18:42
happy with it all so let00:18:45
’s just forbid people to even00:18:47
think that they can00:18:49
leave us, so we let them pay us00:18:52
if they are going to leave us. Well,00:18:54
this is real00:18:56
serfdom and it’s surprising that00:18:59
the head of state agreed with this,00:19:01
maybe it would be necessary to change00:19:04
management and say guys If you can’t00:19:05
cope with this Well then go away and00:19:08
let’s do some more checking there to see00:19:10
how effectively they00:19:12
were managing this business. I think it would be00:19:15
necessary to move somehow in this direction.00:19:17
And then what will happen to us00:19:19
next will Rosneft and will say00:19:22
that it is only necessary to buy Gasoline from us,00:19:24
for example, yes or no, some00:19:26
such decisions are a very vicious practice.00:19:29
I think that this is an absolutely wrong00:19:31
decision. And since we are currently00:19:35
declaring that we have a market00:19:37
economy, but then let everything play by00:19:40
these rules, if they are ineffective,00:19:42
then either they leave the market or the00:19:44
management changes in this00:19:47
organization as a whole. The fact is that00:19:50
this is an infrastructure enterprise; it00:19:51
also affects the economy as a whole; it00:19:53
slows down the development of the economy;00:19:58
then he could produce00:20:00
cheaper goods, for example, in00:20:05
energy-intensive ones, it can take up 30% there,00:20:08
for example, in the cost of production, this is a00:20:11
very serious indicator and someone00:20:14
could, for example, save on this by leaving00:20:16
these monopolists there, but the state00:20:19
itself does not allow this to be done. For example, here we are00:20:21
now there is a decrease in00:20:24
labor efficiency in the market, there are studies on00:20:27
this matter,00:20:28
but I believe that in total this00:20:32
decision also affects the efficiency of00:20:34
labor and, in general, the efficiency of00:20:36
enterprises as a whole, but on the contrary, now we00:20:39
need to focus on00:20:40
increasing efficiency. That’s why00:20:43
that we have a lot of sanctions there We00:20:45
now need to create entire sectors of00:20:49
the economy essentially anew00:20:51
because we didn’t have them Let’s00:20:53
provide an opportunity for business If we00:20:56
have such a state Let business00:21:00
create it as quickly as possible Let’s remove all these00:21:01
barriers, both00:21:03
economic and00:21:05
bureaucratic obstacles so that our00:21:07
economy develops even faster, they started00:21:09
talking about sanctions,00:21:12
commonplace, they open a window of opportunity for00:21:15
really someone. They opened a window except for00:21:18
farmers, of course,00:21:20
nothing can be said here;00:21:22
indeed, many goods00:21:26
that were previously imported were swept away,00:21:28
and in fact, after the00:21:32
ban was introduced. Yes, and sanctions this00:21:35
manure of a number of goods is actually this.00:21:39
Well, it seems to me that there are00:21:42
quite a lot of positive aspects in this,00:21:45
they are connected with the fact that now we must,00:21:47
like it or not, we must develop certain00:21:50
industries because a number of00:21:52
their goods are not something that can be bought there you can00:21:53
buy some big money. But you can, for00:21:55
example, not buy it at all. Yes, some00:21:58
industrial goods, industrial products,00:22:00
and00:22:01
uh, entire sectors of the economy could00:22:04
develop there from scratch and quite00:22:07
quickly and efficiently, but Well, it’s clear. At the00:22:10
first stage, what happened was the00:22:12
substitution there, basically Chinese00:22:14
production of goods that were in the West00:22:16
now there are Chinese production here00:22:19
Well, nevertheless, Okay, at the first00:22:21
stage this may be in order to00:22:23
start producing something00:22:25
gradually, but00:22:28
then there should be opportunities for00:22:31
entrepreneurs to00:22:33
start producing Russian00:22:36
goods or Russian some parts for00:22:39
goods Let them be made in China for now,00:22:40
but some parts00:22:42
can already be replaced there with Russian ones, but how00:22:45
to make a new production, here’s how, for00:22:46
example, to build a new00:22:48
production there How to buy new machines00:22:50
if your interest rate is more than 20%00:22:52
how is this possible do Yes, if you calculate00:22:55
the cost of the goods then Well, that’s00:22:56
generally00:22:59
necessary First, take these there, for example,00:23:01
buy machines at more than 20 percent per00:23:04
annum then For example, if these are00:23:08
some goods there Well, let’s say I don’t know00:23:10
there, we talked about an electric car Yes,00:23:11
let them be there then they will need to be00:23:14
sold on lease or on credit,00:23:17
this is also another00:23:19
20% What is their cost since00:23:22
the state does not subsidize such00:23:23
investment programs of00:23:26
the state subsidies, but this is clearly00:23:29
not enough and there is enough, well, they are not00:23:32
very00:23:33
high, more precisely, these measures on their own00:23:36
volume is insufficient and by industry they are00:23:39
also insufficient. In my opinion,00:23:42
these measures should be generally00:23:45
systemic, that is, they are reflected in the entire00:23:47
economy, if you make such a00:23:50
high interest rate, then you can00:23:52
specifically support some industries there.00:23:54
But they still won’t last In general,00:23:56
the economy must work, so this is a00:23:59
definite chance, these sanctions00:24:01
are certainly a chance for our country00:24:04
to replace Western goods00:24:06
that prevailed in our00:24:08
country. But to what extent we00:24:10
will take advantage of this at the current00:24:13
forum on00:24:14
microelectronics, it was said that00:24:17
last year the industry grew by00:24:20
15%, this is due to the military-industrial00:24:25
complex, most likely I believe that00:24:28
mainly due to the defense complex, but00:24:31
we know that those technologies are advanced00:24:34
technologies that are used first in the00:24:37
defense industry or in the space00:24:39
industry, they then come into our00:24:41
lives because the development of00:24:44
some there are technologies or some00:24:46
parts or materials there, they are very00:24:49
expensive and therefore they need to be made, for00:24:54
example, for some very important00:24:56
industries, for example for the defense industry or for00:24:59
space, and then it’s easier to somehow00:25:02
transfer them to such civilian life.00:25:04
Well, for example, let’s say there Well, we don’t have00:25:06
chip production. Yes, there are very few00:25:10
such production facilities in general, but I00:25:11
believe that for our country it would be00:25:13
fundamentally important to have the production of our00:25:16
own chips, for example,00:25:17
microcircuits, the same thing, we have00:25:19
microcircuit production, but it is very00:25:21
small in order to somehow it’s00:25:23
all to be done en masse There are no goods, not only complete sets, but also00:25:28
no components, and no00:25:30
production of goods and these00:25:32
positions, for example, the production of00:25:34
electronic boards. Yes, maybe they00:25:36
really are now being produced00:25:37
in order to provide for the Defense00:25:39
complex. Well, good But in the future they00:25:42
will provide some kind of00:25:43
civilian production, it will00:25:45
expand, that is, this five percent00:25:48
growth. And for this year they promise as many as 2000:25:51
sweats in the00:25:56
transition from the military-industrial complex to civilian life. It is necessary that00:26:01
civilians have the opportunity for this so00:26:03
that there are no serious ones there at all.00:26:05
bureaucratic barriers00:26:07
so that there are good economic00:26:10
grounds. But today, unfortunately, they are not there. I’m00:26:12
saying it’s cheaper today to bring goods00:26:14
from China. By the way, in China, the00:26:17
interest rate from the Central Bank is00:26:20
about00:26:21
2%, respectively, loans there are well 5,00:26:25
there are00:26:26
6% and that’s all, your efficient economy00:26:57
maybe more,00:26:59
now what are our opportunities for00:27:02
opening such production facilities? Well,00:27:06
as for the Soviet era, since00:27:08
these were state-owned enterprises,00:27:10
it was a planned economy, well, we could00:27:13
focus on the number of00:27:14
these enterprises there, for example. But I would00:27:17
still focus00:27:20
on00:27:22
infrastructure solutions for development00:27:26
economy and it seems to me that this is what we00:27:29
need to focus on, well, you can open00:27:33
enterprises there, for example. But how00:27:34
effective will they be? Let’s say00:27:36
the state has set a goal of opening00:27:38
30,000 enterprises. Well, roughly speaking, I don’t00:27:40
know, 1,000 enterprises per year, 2,00000:27:42
enterprises per year, but the question is00:27:45
how effective will they be if the00:27:48
economic conditions00:27:51
are good for production there,00:27:54
these enterprises will be opened there by00:27:56
private investors,00:27:59
entrepreneurs, businessmen, they00:28:01
will be so open for us, it is important to create a00:28:04
basis for us I mean there for the00:28:06
State Duma in general for00:28:08
the state as a whole the State Duma00:28:10
for government So I think that we00:28:12
need to focus on this and put00:28:15
emphasis on this, if we create00:28:18
good conditions, then maybe more enterprises00:28:21
will open in our00:28:23
country.00:28:39
It’s clear Now there is a special military00:28:42
operation and all the forces and resources of00:28:45
the state are concentrated on this because00:28:48
this is certainly a global challenge for00:28:52
our country and we must respond to00:28:55
this global challenge and all resources are00:28:58
of course concentrated in order to00:29:00
provide a response to this challenge,00:29:03
and I believe that after before it00:29:07
ends, I think that yes, there will probably be00:29:11
such large-scale projects there, I believe that there00:29:14
will definitely be large-scale projects00:29:15
here. Well, for example, there are construction projects of the century. I think00:29:19
that let’s say that00:29:21
there are oil pipelines, gas pipelines that00:29:24
we had, this is the power of Siberia and the north, the00:29:27
power of Siberia in China Nord Stream there is the00:29:30
South Stream to Europe. I think that this00:29:33
can also be called the construction site of the century. It’s understandable00:29:36
in terms of complexity in general, technologically, a00:29:38
huge number of very complex00:29:41
solutions were used and the equipment there is00:29:43
very complex, it’s clear that this is in00:29:46
order to, well, as they say,00:29:47
pump resources there Yes, from ours00:29:50
countries But nevertheless, this is still00:29:52
money for our country,00:29:54
and with these funds it would be possible to00:30:00
support social services for our population and develop the00:30:02
economy. I think that such projects00:30:04
will definitely happen when we talked about the00:30:08
ineffective management of state-owned00:30:12
enterprises, you said00:30:15
that someone was punished in the modern00:30:19
Russian economy in general there is a00:30:26
person that there is no such00:30:29
responsibility. No, there is a feeling that00:30:31
there are some oligarchic clans there00:30:33
that have somehow captured certain00:30:36
sectors of the economy and parasitize on00:30:39
them and well, there is a permanent struggle00:30:42
between these clans, and even there the economy00:30:45
is divided, some clans want to gain00:30:48
access to some industry. So they are00:30:50
fighting among themselves there,00:30:53
and so Probably this somehow concludes.00:30:57
This is00:30:58
the question What exactly is the struggle? These are the00:31:06
oligarchic clans. Well, some don’t bear it if00:31:10
and it happens that someone is imprisoned there,00:31:13
for example, it happens in the course of00:31:15
this struggle and not for some other00:31:18
reasons. Well, for example, I remember there00:31:21
those criminal cases that we had in our00:31:22
country when some00:31:25
law enforcement officers there, let’s say,00:31:27
found money in the00:31:30
volume of entire rooms Yes, some crazy00:31:32
billions of rubles I00:31:35
remember that at that time it was00:31:36
for example Well, more than the budget of the regional00:31:40
center there of the Volga region Well, on average, a00:31:43
whole city lives00:31:46
on this money for a whole year Yes, even less00:31:50
for one person Such00:31:52
funds are accumulated by law enforcement officers.00:31:54
I can’t believe that this happened00:31:57
in such a way that no one noticed.00:31:59
Nobody knew about it. It just00:32:01
can’t be, they don’t sit on financial00:32:04
flows. These are not banks, law enforcement officers.00:32:06
Yes, they seem to be engaged in law enforcement00:32:08
activities. how they should Yes00:32:09
provide for the violated Nara there00:32:11
ensure the violated restoration of the00:32:13
rights of violated citizens It is clear that this is a00:32:16
very long-term work Yes it is00:32:19
clear that this is a corruption00:32:20
component in such volumes Really00:32:24
Nobody knew about this It is clear that at the moment it is00:32:27
connected with corruption There are hundreds and00:32:29
maybe thousands of this a huge00:32:31
number of people are involved in this00:32:33
and no one ever knew about it, it’s00:32:35
impossible to believe in it, it’s just00:32:38
apparently one clan decided to take advantage of00:32:41
this and that means pushing another clan a little further.00:32:45
I think that this is precisely what is connected with this,00:32:47
let’s say, with regard to00:32:49
import substitution, we talked about, let’s say,00:32:52
in the aviation industry we had a minister,00:32:56
he is now Yes, specifically responsible00:32:58
for this direction of00:33:01
manturs after it began,00:33:04
when the sanctions began, and in general,00:33:06
import substitution was announced for us a00:33:07
long time ago, even before what, in my opinion, since the00:33:10
twelfth year we have had a specific00:33:12
state line for00:33:14
import substitution But what we see,00:33:16
for example, in the aviation operator,00:33:27
now the times have come, it turns out that the00:33:28
engine is completely French there.00:33:30
Yes, now only00:33:32
our00:33:34
engines are being tested there, this also applies to the00:33:36
avionics of some other00:33:39
parts, instead of saying that00:33:42
Listen, you failed entire industries,00:33:44
entire directions I actually even I don’t know00:33:46
which industry can be called00:33:51
import substitution. We also said no, in00:33:54
household appliances, the same thing is there in the00:33:57
car, there is no structure in the machine tool industry,00:34:00
also no in some industry, in the aviation industry00:34:03
there is a very good example. We have not been00:34:06
able to resume production of the00:34:08
Soviet00:34:10
IL-114 aircraft for 10 years. Yes, absolutely true.00:34:14
and even in my opinion the Kazan aircraft plant is fighting for it more00:34:17
there, in my opinion, the Kazan aircraft plant00:34:19
has been fighting for this for quite a long time, they were00:34:21
going to build it either at the Voronezh00:34:24
construction enterprise or something like at the00:34:27
enterprise of the Mik corporation in Lukhovitsy00:34:30
or at00:34:32
Sokol Yes AS and not there yes yes And there not00:34:37
only about this plane, there is that 204,00:34:39
in my opinion, this plane was also discussed for a very long time,00:34:41
but in fact nothing00:34:44
happened, these planes were not assembled, so00:34:45
they brought up the big question, the big question is00:34:49
why make a new00:34:52
plane When we had developments,00:34:54
these are late Soviet ones planes, then the World Cup,00:34:56
we say these are the planes that are most00:35:00
in demand in our country, which00:35:02
we need, and these are late Soviet00:35:05
developments, that is, they were there at the turn of the00:35:06
eighties and nineties, let me remind you00:35:09
today that the most common ones are the00:35:11
Boeing 737 and Airbus 320. They were generally00:35:15
developed in the sixties and seventies,00:35:17
respectively, of course, they00:35:19
changed the avionics there, but the body itself and the00:35:22
technical solutions that were00:35:23
applied since those times, we also have00:35:27
completely new new developments from the late00:35:29
eighties to the early nineties.00:35:31
Why not use them?00:35:33
Well, a ready-made aircraft does not need to invest a00:35:35
huge amount invest money there00:35:37
in avionics Maybe the engines will be00:35:39
modernized there and let these00:35:40
planes fly, but no, it was necessary to00:35:43
reinvent the bicycle And okay, they would say this is00:35:47
necessary so that now it is00:35:49
completely Russian Yes, but the question is, what is00:35:51
Russian besides00:35:53
metal,00:35:55
so you gave the right example Vladimir I00:35:57
absolutely agree with this and it was00:36:00
just a mantra that was needed. That’s probably00:36:02
a question to ask about why00:36:05
import substitution and pharmaceuticals in general have been disrupted in general.00:36:08
Well, I don’t even know.00:36:11
How can I give an example where this00:36:14
import substitution would have happened at a00:36:16
decent level, but instead of this00:36:18
person it’s not that that they are somehow00:36:21
punishing him, but on the contrary, they are promoting him00:36:23
to the rank of Deputy Chairman of00:36:25
the Government,00:36:27
some amazing00:36:29
things, so to your question about whether there00:36:32
is any punishment for00:36:34
this and whether people are punished at all or not.00:36:37
It seems to me that no But it would be necessary, of course,00:36:41
it would be necessary, of course, of course, if at all it00:36:45
would be normal if there are some00:36:47
objective indicators there. Well, for00:36:50
example, there on the same import substitution,00:36:52
or in any other industries there and in the00:36:54
social sphere, the same thing00:36:55
seems to me that when appointing,00:36:58
let’s the minister would have to be00:37:00
designated there, or he would at least indicate his00:37:02
program, or let’s say the parliament00:37:05
or the Prime Minister or the00:37:07
president would give specific instructions00:37:10
that in, for example, 3-4 years there00:37:13
should be These are the indicators00:37:14
you have and there is a breakdown of the weather this is a kind of00:37:17
plan, yes, well, how00:37:20
can it be without a plan? Yes, how did we live this day,00:37:23
thank God, yes, and tomorrow we’ll see what00:37:25
will happen, but it00:37:27
was also possible to see If there a person00:37:30
achieves, he works effectively,00:37:32
achieves these indicators very well,00:37:34
does not achieve Nuno, then that means it needs to00:37:35
be changed if it does not achieve the indicators.00:37:37
Let him then explain what00:37:40
objective circumstances arose so that00:37:41
this could not be achieved. Why it was impossible for us to00:37:47
build our aircraft engine in Russia for 15 years, yes.00:37:49
Or, for example, to make pharmaceuticals00:37:52
strong enough Why this could not be00:37:55
done; they are not asked by the CC00:37:57
unfortunately, Well, we ask, but00:37:59
somehow they don’t answer us because we don’t00:38:01
make the decision on their fate. Yes, other00:38:04
people and probably there are some00:38:07
other reasons for leaving a person or00:38:10
not keeping him at00:38:12
work. In our memory, Russia00:38:17
has completed great, truly great00:38:19
Soviet construction projects for example, the Boguchan hydroelectric power station, the00:38:24
railway to Yakutsk Nua to00:38:26
Nizhny Bestyakh, Yakutsk on the other side of the00:38:31
Lena, I heard from knowledgeable people that the00:38:36
Soviet Union from which00:38:38
we inherited a lot, not only these00:38:40
construction projects had to be destroyed in a00:38:44
hurry because the country was on the threshold of a00:38:49
technological economic00:38:51
breakthrough Do you agree with00:38:54
this there is such a thesis00:38:57
and this is what I agree with in this00:39:02
thesis with one part of it which is00:39:04
that the Soviet Union was00:39:06
on the verge of such a00:39:09
breakthrough in every00:39:11
sense, what is this00:39:13
connected with? This is due to the fact that the economy of the00:39:16
Soviet Union it was the plan00:39:17
developed on the basis of the plan and there was a00:39:22
special body, the State Planning Committee, which brought together a00:39:25
huge amount from all enterprises00:39:28
from all00:39:30
who analyzed it, did analysis00:39:33
there by industry from all enterprises,00:39:36
well, it’s clear that these are tens of thousands of00:39:39
organizations alone and the data is, well, some00:39:42
millions this data and, of course, put00:39:45
it all into some tables and00:39:48
update them constantly, it’s very00:39:51
difficult, it’s very difficult, it’s clear that00:39:54
smart people worked in the state government, their work there is a00:39:56
lot, but it’s still very difficult for a00:39:59
person, it was necessary somehow and00:40:01
coordinate because of this,00:40:04
efficiency was definitely lost compared00:40:06
to, for example,00:40:07
let’s say even market relations in a00:40:12
market economy there in a number of countries.00:40:13
Even for example, there in the United States,00:40:15
at a certain level, this approach00:40:18
was more effective than a market00:40:21
economy, but at some point00:40:24
efficiency began to get lost00:40:27
And if computerization had occurred, if00:40:31
all this had been transferred to a computer00:40:34
that does it compared to a person,00:40:36
well, there are many more00:40:39
operations, the efficiency of this00:40:41
approach would have increased significantly, that00:40:44
is, we could make calculations much00:40:46
faster and more accurate calculations for00:40:48
economic development we could00:40:51
update them faster. Yes, if something00:40:53
happens there, it could be00:40:56
seen immediately. It’s not like the data is only00:40:58
processed there for a month. Yes,00:41:01
after another 3 months they arrive00:41:03
here, they are processed and one could00:41:06
see how the economy is developing,00:41:08
for example. there with a line of only00:41:10
six months, this is how we now see, for example,00:41:12
the light of some stars, yes, the star may00:41:15
no longer be there, this star, yes, it exploded00:41:17
there and is missing, but the light of00:41:19
this star is still flying and we see it00:41:21
as if the star is shining, it00:41:23
also exists and it00:41:27
may also be that there are already some very00:41:30
bad processes taking place in the Soviet00:41:32
economy and in a number of industries this00:41:35
was indeed the case Yes, but we see that the light is00:41:39
still shining and some data is still00:41:40
coming in, we are still processing it if we00:41:43
do this faster with with the help of computers,00:41:46
decisions would be made faster and more00:41:49
efficiently,00:41:51
so I would00:41:55
say00:41:57
that the quality would increase and therefore00:42:00
such a qualitative leap could really happen00:42:02
in all00:42:04
industries.00:42:06
That is, it’s not just like that, but it00:42:09
has its own explanation, the explanation is this00:42:12
is the first position with I00:42:14
absolutely agree with this position, as for the fact that00:42:16
it was destroyed That’s why Well, the state has always coped with the external00:42:20
problems for our Rani,00:42:25
in00:42:28
my opinion, the role of the individual in history is00:42:30
quite high And Well, it cannot be said00:42:33
that there was one of the leaders of the Soviet00:42:36
Union there while he was in charge00:42:38
everything was fine with the Soviet Union, and therefore everything seemed to00:42:40
end well there; nothing00:42:42
like that, there were always challenges, but we always00:42:46
managed to cope; in this case, we had a00:42:49
very weak Leader who failed to cope00:42:51
with his role. I’m not saying that the fault is00:42:54
only in the NM in the mountains, of course it is there are many00:42:57
different factors, but he had00:43:00
enough power and enough strength to00:43:02
cope with these issues,00:43:05
but he couldn’t cope with them, that’s why they00:43:07
deliberately destroyed it because there was a00:43:09
threat of such a leap. I think that00:43:12
our enemies would be glad that The Soviet00:43:15
Union collapsed at any time, and not00:43:16
only there in the late eighties and early00:43:21
nineties. Thank you, Georgy Petrovich, you00:43:24
probably convinced many in the audience00:43:27
that the state should intervene more actively00:43:28
in the economy, I want to believe00:43:31
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Пятое место России в мировом рейтинге ВВП, рассчитанных по паритету покупательной способности, – сомнительное достижение. По размеру экономики, к примеру, наша страна не всегда входит в первую десятку. А по социальным параметрам – таким, как величина пенсии, – Россия на 50-м месте, напоминает член Президиума и секретарь ЦК КПРФ, депутат Государственной Думы Георгий Камнев. В нашей экономике рыночные отношения уживаются с крепостным правом, а за скачки цен на мировых рынках всегда расплачивается отечественный потребитель. Закон о стратегическом планировании не работает, программа импортозамещения провалена, виновный в этом министр повышается в должности, лоббизм торжествует над здравым смыслом. Правительство даже не пытается разорвать этот порочный круг, констатирует эксперт. Как победить цены на еду и топливо, кому западные санкции открывают окно возможностей, появятся ли у России «проекты века» – в откровенном разговоре «Открытой студии». Ведущий - Владимир Лебедев Материал в «Свободной Прессе» https://svpressa.ru/online/sptv/389578/ ✅Друзья, для выпуска новых видео, нам очень нужна ваша поддержка! Что для этого можно сделать? 1.❗️Подпишитесь на канал «Свободной прессы»: https://www.youtube.com/c/svpressarutv/featured 2.✍️НАПИШИТЕ несколько длинных КОММЕНТАРИЕВ со своим мнением по теме выпуска 3. ❤️Поставьте лайк 4. 👨👩👧👦Распространите это видео по соцсетям, отправьте друзьям и знакомым! ✅Так алгоритмы YouTube покажут его БОЛЬШЕМУ количеству пользователей! _________________________ 00:00 Гость: Георгий Камнев - член Президиума ЦК КПРФ, депутат ГД РФ. 00:34 РФ на 5м месте рейтинга экономик мира. Почему при такой экономике мы на 20м месте по бюджету. 03:56 В отличие от Китая, Россия с экономической стабильностью не знакома. Мы рефлексируем. 07:20 Родил ребенка, вот тебе 400 тыс/р. Захотел электромобиль, держи 900 тыс/р. Где логика? 09:00 Закон о стратегическом планировании не работает. 09:30 Рекордные урожаи зерна. Почему дорожает хлеб? Государство должно компенсировать скачки цен. 12:37 Запретили экспорт нефтепродуктов, но обуздать цены на топливо не удалось. Это вообще возможно? 2 пути. 15:24 Рыночные отношения превратились в феодальные. Мы умудрились вернуться к крепостному праву. 21:09 Санкции открывают окно возможностей. 24:12 Отрасль микроэлектроники выросла на 15%. За счёт чего. 26:31 Для полноценного импортозамещения РФ нужно создать 30 тыс. предприятий. Есть ли такая возможность. 28:22 Есть ли у России масштабные проекты. 30:07 Персональная ответственность в российской экономике. Паразитирующая олигархия. 34:02 У нас есть советские разработки, но более 10 лет мы не можем возобновить производство ИЛ-114. 38:13 СССР пришлось развалить, т.к страна была на пороге технологического и экономического прорыва. _________________________ https://svpressa.ru/ «Свободная пресса» — общественно-политическое СМИ Свободная Пресса в соцсетях: Яндекс.Дзен - https://dzen.ru/svpressa ВКонтакте - https://vk.com/svpressa
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