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Ukraine Oleksiy, we congratulate you,

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I congratulate the Chancellor of Germany, the same

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President of Poland, Andrzej Duda,

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will be in Paris next Monday, where they

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will meet with the President of France,

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Manela Macron, as European

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Pravda writes and, in particular, referring to the

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Politico publication, and expect that the

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dinner meeting will be dedicated to

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Ukraine's desire to membership in NATO and

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security guarantees from the Allies on the eve of the

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Alliance's tovalences in Vilnius. We

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remember this, and last week there

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was a statement by Mr. Macron about

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strong, concrete, tangible

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security guarantees and the provision of weapons, in particular, but

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Scholz behaved more cautiously in

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principle, there are different opinions among these

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four leaders, about whom I

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mentioned. Of course,

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Ukraine's closest friend is Poland, and Andrzej Duda

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always defends the interests of Ukraine. However,

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for what decisions on the part of NATO do we have to

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prepare ourselves morally,

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well, Ukraine will not will become a member of NATO.

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On this, there will be no announcement about the date

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when it will join it. I am convinced that the

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percentage is at 90. Well, maybe some

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miracle will happen.

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it is declared in one way or another.

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As soon as it is immediately. So to

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speak, that is, as soon as

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the war ends and Ukraine receives an

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offer to join NATO,

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this is somehow the situation at the moment.

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is taking place

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at the front in Ukraine, well, listen, I think

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that now, in principle, the evaluations of what

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happened in Kakhovsky are changing.

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This is an understanding of the extent of what

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happened. It will come for another week and

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months and even possibly years. And it

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will also affect the international

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situation and not international ones. to be

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Ukraine's relations in

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security matters, Russia has shown that

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in principle nothing is impossible, while

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formally not violating some

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red line, which is Well, in principle, it is

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unacceptable for Putin, that is,

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not using tactical nuclear weapons, not

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using strategic nuclear

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weapons. They showed that in principle,

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Well, we must understand. Yes, in the same way. Again, I

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was young, but my parents, for example, in

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1986, not in the first week, not in the

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second week, not even a month later,

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people did not understand what the consequences of

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all this would be, and in the same way, we do

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not understand the world now. understands, but in order for

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us to be more, that is, not washed, and the Europeans

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approach more soberly from the Russian point of

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view, the security proposals of Ukraine.

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that's why I'm

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in this, everyone is in this

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section. It's hard for me to imagine that the

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Europeans and Americans will take such a

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step as to give us specific acquisitions,

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duties, obligations regarding our

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accession to NATO in the near future Oleksiy

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But it's

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rude to turn us into Israel saying it is more viable,

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viable at the moment, I

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understood everything, it is the same thing that is happening and there is no

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need to change the formula, this is happening,

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now they give us weapons, they give us money, we are

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fully supported, but the

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guarantors of security are our weapons, our

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opportunity to oppose Russia,

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go to this Vilnius summit and if

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this happens, if Ukraine, God forbid, does not

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go to this summit, how then will it be

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a blow to Europe against the coalition of our

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allies?

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Well, I think it will not come to that, well, listen to

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this now, everyone is on their nerves, in principle,

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even the president can understand

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this the situation when, again,

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let's do it, he is, he is,

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all the same, I understand now to be a

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critic, all the same, even after

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three or four years in

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office, he did not become a politician in the classical

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sense of the word, yes, that is, he does not

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always calculate the words he throws out,

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yes to be outside

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is a position I think a

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huge number, that is, he expressed a

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position a huge number of Ukrainians

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did you go there under the three hells if you

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can't you are afraid to accept us into NATO

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Oleksia directly I hope that

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Yes because I hope that after all it is

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just my emotions and with

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In principle, there is no way to calculate one way out.

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Well, why don’t we go to Na Well, what’s

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next, what’s next,

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stay alone. Well, I understand that

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we are like this, even if our

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president really goes on such a demarche, and they are there,

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unlike, well, unlike

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many people in the country in Ukraine like this. They are

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trying to think strategically like this. It is a

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choice to support Ukraine - It is a choice to a

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certain extent strategic. Yes, because they

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understand that What Well, if there is no Ukraine,

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then the next one will still have to

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fight with Russia, so I mean

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certainly

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from the position of the president. But I mean,

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will it be a slap in the face for our

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European partners, if, God forbid,

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I say this will happen and Ukraine will not

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go,

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well, it will be a slap.

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who

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will force us to agree with what is proposed too,

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so to speak, colleagues, it is not in vain that

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they meet, they will find some kind of

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formation, how will it be possible for me to understand right away, the

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issue of political communication is also

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very serious, yes, the

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president's office is trying to show

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that it

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is Zelensky who is the leader of the coalition, so and

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so aggression is sure to happen,

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so aggressive, such rhetoric. Why don't you

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give us this? Why don't you give us that? Why do

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n't you accept us into NATO and so on, but

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it can't last forever?

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Russians,

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you must understand that this may be the

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price that will be set for Russia, and

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maybe not Russia, but maybe it will be

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discounted. The whole of Europe and America will be

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added.

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I can calculate how he

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calculates, so to speak, to the penny, how much, how much,

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how much should be spent, but this is it, and

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we become even more dependent on the

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West, of course, in such situations.

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meetings Be sure to take care of yourself

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Oleksiy Golobusky political technologist was in

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direct contact with us

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