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in our multinational brotherhood,00:00:27
80 different nations, languages,00:00:31
peoples,00:00:32
ethnic groups are represented, and one of them is Americans,00:00:36
English-speaking people, like many Americans in00:00:41
Slavic unions, before there are many nationalities in our brotherhood,00:00:45
but it is called00:00:46
international brotherhood in our church00:00:49
where I go, our services are held in00:00:51
mainly in Russian, despite the fact00:00:53
that we have people represented and 1700:00:56
nationalities in our church, we have00:00:58
Jews, Poles, Bulgarians and that is,00:01:00
Americans,00:01:01
as for the Americans, in our00:01:04
churches in our churches there is a brotherhood00:01:07
of Americans, we have very few00:01:11
but the first Americans who00:01:15
became members of our brotherhood these are my00:01:18
parents my wife's parents my wife and00:01:20
brother they are members of our00:01:23
church today it was let's say at the first00:01:25
swallows that flew there its own00:01:28
history is very interesting than in Chicago there00:01:30
is also a knife a few people mostly00:01:35
they found us not us they were found, that is,00:01:37
something attracted them, well, if00:01:40
you don’t count my relatives, then the rest of the00:01:42
Americans are people who became part of00:01:44
our brotherhood through marriage,00:01:46
we had one American from the world while00:01:50
he appeared in our church, he00:01:53
ruled very great zeal in the church,00:01:55
he prayed, he communicated with young people, but due to the00:01:59
fact that our church still00:02:01
prefers the Russian language, he left our00:02:04
church, this of course is a very00:02:07
delicate question, a bit complicated question of language,00:02:10
well, listen to me on this, well, in general,00:02:11
for this reason we have few Americans00:02:16
because of that that we no longer have courses in00:02:18
Russian, let’s say 95 percent, like00:02:22
this, that is, they come to us, well, we don’t come00:02:26
to them because we have nowhere to invite them,00:02:31
they come to listen to the translation, this doesn’t00:02:35
quite suit them, my wife00:02:38
works as a doctor, she invited00:02:39
practically00:02:41
her own many employees they visited00:02:45
once two three times Americans of00:02:47
Chinese nationality, let's say,00:02:49
American affiliation visited but00:02:52
they did not stay in our church00:02:54
but for now this is the situation here is00:02:59
evangelism in America in what00:03:02
directions is this ministry carried out00:03:04
how did you acquire a mission field in00:03:08
Mexico in Cuba among Indians, as00:03:12
for the work of evangelism, of course,00:03:15
my personal opinion, my view may00:03:17
not be entirely objective because00:03:20
we have people who are directly related to the00:03:22
work of evangelism, I work with young people00:03:23
who have a cost in relation to evangelism,00:03:26
in general, I am generally not satisfied with the00:03:31
work of evangelism in American00:03:33
unification is taking place, you can’t00:03:36
say that it doesn’t exist at all, we have00:03:37
a department of these people who work,00:03:39
but probably the00:03:43
association knows what America is,00:03:46
America is a country00:03:48
in the past that sent a lot of00:03:52
missionaries, hundreds of books about missionaries,00:03:55
my wife, as a teenager, read the00:03:57
stream below a year about missionaries in the east00:04:00
I think I have about 300 books about00:04:02
my missionaries and they read that is, having00:04:05
this here is something to compare with, for example, you00:04:07
kept in America how they were engaged in00:04:09
evangelism then against the background of that00:04:11
missionary but it seems to me that00:04:13
we have practically nothing if00:04:17
compare with the fact that America is like the00:04:19
American Baptists, they sent out many00:04:22
seniors, that is, in fact, people00:04:23
left in different directions, we have a lot of00:04:25
history, well, yes, we moved to America, we are00:04:28
migrants uno, as it were, it’s not such a language,00:04:30
we don’t have a basic one, such a financial one, let’s say,00:04:32
well no matter how00:04:34
different it may be, all their missions worked on a00:04:36
very large scale,00:04:37
so we kind of have evangelism,00:04:40
probably at a minimum, these are00:04:42
the options as for evangelism in00:04:45
America, it takes place at a minimum, well,00:04:48
library ministries are located here in00:04:52
our city of Sacramento and not only with us, I00:04:54
also took a significant part in this00:04:56
a little earlier when I was less busy, let’s say there00:04:59
were fewer children there was less workload in the00:05:00
church, we squeezed into the city to set up00:05:02
a column, we sang, we preached, our00:05:06
brothers preach well, we handed out00:05:08
tracts, the newspapers moved on and now this00:05:11
ministry continues, but as for00:05:14
this street evangelism offline, yes, the00:05:17
problem is that when people go,00:05:20
the question is where can we come, we don’t know00:05:23
where to send them, we are already young, they00:05:25
ask what language do you use to00:05:26
narrow down the fact that they feel that we are00:05:28
not Americans, well Yes, we have young00:05:31
brothers who speak without an accent, but00:05:34
still can’t tell by their faces that we are not00:05:35
Americans, no matter how you look at it, you don’t00:05:37
believe it, and when we say that for00:05:39
service in Russian, but we will00:05:40
translate it for you, it’s very confusing for them, but it kind of00:05:42
confuses00:05:44
them As for the good news within00:05:47
the United States, we have00:05:48
good evangelism in New York in San Francisco,00:05:50
we regularly go to churches and00:05:52
go there to the city of San Francisco,00:05:55
well, that’s probably how we conducted a radio program00:05:59
here for 9 years and broadcast sakrament,00:06:02
this was part of our good news then00:06:04
the situation there changed a little00:06:07
as for evangelism among the Indians, the00:06:09
largest concentration of American00:06:12
Indians is located at the intersection of00:06:14
four states, if you look at the map00:06:17
they intersect like this00:06:18
New Mexico youth drawn there are00:06:23
a lot of eggs and a brother is needed there moved00:06:25
for evangelism in 2010, well Now00:06:29
we have our own there. there are nine members of the church00:06:32
from indigenous Indians, that is,00:06:35
without a mixture of American there are Indians00:06:38
while I was baptized 1:03 what was00:06:40
this announced at baptism we have two00:06:42
missionary families living with you, a deacon is00:06:45
now we are a candidate for the00:06:46
presbyter of the breaking bread performed00:06:49
on behalf of the brothers there goes there00:06:53
Our camp was in English,00:06:55
several came and went there, they00:06:57
really liked it, they felt like00:06:59
part of a big brotherhood, three of them00:07:01
repented,00:07:03
well, of course, there are many Indian reservations in00:07:05
America, I know that in00:07:09
other places the brothers also visit00:07:11
some places, but so far this is00:07:14
more or less development among and eggs00:07:16
tent evangelism is taking place buy was to00:07:18
become a Bible study in such a00:07:21
specific direction this is a Vedic00:07:24
reservation among the Navajo tribe here in00:07:28
California there are patches for me we00:07:30
went to them carried out targeted00:07:33
evangelism there let’s say00:07:35
this is what concerns the Indians in our00:07:38
evangelism takes place in Mexico in Mexico00:07:40
I have also been there several times several00:07:43
churches have been working there, one of the churches00:07:46
has had an orphanage for several years now, they are00:07:48
working well stably without any00:07:51
special advertising, that is, this church has00:07:54
its own project of the welfare of Velsky among00:07:57
Mexicans in Mexico there are00:08:00
other directions there brothers our people00:08:03
travel to houses of prayer, they build our point in00:08:07
Mexico, there is no brotherhood because00:08:09
our families don’t seem to be there, but we are working on this00:08:11
matter and working on issues, I hope that it00:08:13
will be our people, but what’s interesting is that00:08:16
I made one note under our xi Kan00:08:18
churches, here we are recently were with the youth00:08:20
there,00:08:21
they are a teacher preaching the gospel from the00:08:24
believer Mexicans,00:08:26
it turns out that the church has two00:08:29
directions: evangelization and00:08:32
house-building, that is, outside church00:08:35
service, how to invite people to00:08:36
church, and when people came to church,00:08:38
now it is necessary to engage in00:08:40
house-building, in principle, certain00:08:42
teachings are not doctrines, and so among the Mexicans,00:08:45
as I understand it, yes, I talked to them there with00:08:48
Pastor Abel, they mainly00:08:52
deal with what kind of organizations they take00:08:53
to the streets, by the way, when they go out to00:08:56
evangelize, they wear ties and shirts, well, as00:08:58
if the relationship is very holy, but in00:09:00
evangelism, but somehow we'll go to00:09:02
evangelism there, sneakers there, dressed as00:09:04
usual, they have a different attitude, this is a00:09:07
sacred thing, go tell people about00:09:09
God, that is, when you go on the street00:09:11
to evangelize, you should look as if00:09:13
you are going to church because00:09:16
you are the church of Christ, you represent00:09:17
the church Christ and00:09:19
it turns out that many people00:09:21
come to their church to the vice and get00:09:24
baptized, but they have a weak question about doctrines, faith,00:09:27
teachings,00:09:29
for example, I ask a question about some00:09:32
doctrine, they answer weakly, they say,00:09:35
well, the main thing for us, for the sake of God, is to bring the church00:09:37
inside in our church00:09:40
works more intensively, we know what00:09:42
doctrines to them about this we preach the message of the00:09:44
Apostle Paul, but with the external00:09:46
evangelist it is a little more difficult, as if00:09:49
they have one country that is slightly developed on the other00:09:51
side, the more developed, but thank God the00:09:54
Mexicans and their pastor there is his name is00:09:57
Abel Whiskey and Scooby-Doo with such a00:09:59
BBC name they open00:10:01
missionary points for example the church00:10:03
has grown to 100 members00:10:04
if the pastor is00:10:06
pastore in Mexican in Spanish if00:10:10
they managed to break the churches up to 100 members00:10:13
then it means he needs to be resettled to another00:10:16
point and they don’t send a person here00:10:18
who00:10:19
will be more likely to be born inside00:10:21
the church to work, that is, for people00:10:24
who came from the world like this,00:10:26
here they are working in a very poor00:10:28
country, very poor, surprising how00:10:31
you moved the border to Sanica and immersing yourself in00:10:34
real Mexican life,00:10:37
surprising how, along with such a00:10:41
rich one, we see improving like this they are looking for poor00:10:45
people and bombed, they are looking for God and we00:10:47
intend to continue to work in Mexico.00:10:49
Our brothers are jealous especially of young00:10:51
families. As for the material00:10:53
ministry, send something there as a gift and00:10:56
but we buy the gospel, but Christmas, we00:10:59
went and visited churches, thank God, this is00:11:03
about the ministry in Mexico,00:11:05
well, the third direction to cuba cuba00:11:08
means the Indians of Mexico and the club in00:11:12
2015, the brothers from Minneapolis00:11:15
had a great desire to visit00:11:18
Cuba because the political00:11:21
situation became a little softer under that00:11:23
administration,00:11:25
it became possible to come from00:11:28
America because from America to00:11:30
it was very difficult to go to Cuba, for example, I00:11:34
remember we went on our first trips,00:11:38
you send your passport and Washington DC00:11:40
they consider two or three weeks, I00:11:43
give you downstairs then you ask them for00:11:47
permission to evangelize, let’s say so, that00:11:50
is, they gave it officially to00:11:52
distribute the gospel on the streets, that was00:11:54
everything is of course very interesting, well, how would you00:11:56
come,00:11:58
well, there was communism Lenin lived Lenin is alive00:12:02
Lenin will live00:12:04
these slogans today, remember, we went to a00:12:07
restaurant to eat and there were posters with the00:12:12
same ones that were in the school where I00:12:13
studied at the Soviet school, the Great00:12:15
Patriotic War00:12:16
we- we won there, all these slogans, the00:12:19
Soviet Union, songs there, these Cubans, as00:12:23
if they don’t read Russian, everything00:12:24
is written in Russian, in general, the country is very00:12:27
interesting, very00:12:29
impressive because whoever lived in the00:12:32
Soviet Union, for him, for him, the real00:12:34
Soviet means is that they drive Lada00:12:36
Muscovites Kamaz victories are basically00:12:39
Soviet cars, I have the00:12:42
impression that the Soviet Union has all the00:12:44
transport crossing there00:12:47
Zaporozhye00:12:49
disabled people will pass the cars the00:12:52
cars are very expensive but of course00:12:54
we can talk about this for a long time there are Cuban00:12:56
churches there we were in these churches00:13:01
getting acquainted at some point00:13:03
we are very interesting there were 500 members in one church,00:13:08
Pastor Joel was like that, I barely according to ours, but00:13:13
they were surprised that we had a lot of00:13:16
children, for example, in one church we00:13:19
met, there were 8 of us and we had a00:13:21
translator, she translated00:13:23
Russian into Spanish,00:13:25
and00:13:28
then I had five children the very first00:13:30
trip, I say that I live in California,00:13:32
I have five children, and when in someone that00:13:34
I have five children, then the whole audience00:13:36
clap their hands and00:13:39
applaud wisely, but it’s not quite00:13:41
familiar and we don’t have that, well, apparently it’s00:13:43
common for them to express their emotions00:13:46
when we’re all we got to know each other soon, he00:13:49
says who has questions for any of00:13:51
them, here is a woman standing there, apparently00:13:53
believers, quite seriously, I have a question00:13:57
about the second pinkamin,00:14:00
he said that he has five children, I would like to00:14:04
clarify whether this is true or not, but I answer00:14:07
yes,00:14:08
when you have a question for me 5 give birth and from00:14:11
one wife or you more than one wife00:14:14
when the translator translated I thought it was a00:14:16
joke and didn’t even want to answer otherwise00:14:19
first she remember in church but somehow but00:14:23
nevertheless I saw that he was squeezing the hall waiting for00:14:25
answers I said that I have one wife and00:14:27
when I said that I have one wife they00:14:29
clap their hands with even greater jealousy,00:14:31
I then asked the pastor00:14:33
how to perceive this, he says for us00:14:37
Cubans it is impossible as it is impossible in00:14:41
the year we have 30 children for the whole church00:14:44
500 members00:14:48
well, in this In terms of course, it was00:14:51
impressive, well, and here I would like to00:14:54
say about the gospel such a moment,00:14:56
what did it do when we00:14:59
interviewed him with this poster about the00:15:01
development of the church they have their own history there00:15:04
when I asked the question what is the goal of00:15:07
your local church what are you00:15:09
striving for, what are you working on, he00:15:11
said, our first goal is00:15:13
evangelism,00:15:15
but theirs is their church, it works00:15:18
more among drug addicts, alcoholics,00:15:22
homeless people under bridges, they have a special00:15:25
bus that goes and catches00:15:28
these people, they brought them to the church as if there were00:15:30
quotas and I I ask the question how long do you00:15:34
work on a person’s soul and well, God00:15:36
works through you so that he becomes00:15:38
a Christian, he says,00:15:41
how much time do you think it takes and a00:15:43
huge year, two cities, a lot more00:15:47
to know what I thought00:15:49
they didn’t give birth to their children and Well, the whole00:15:54
church, let’s say, has been working on it for several years,00:15:57
thank you to me, souls, and we have them here,00:15:59
they come to church, but somehow such a well,00:16:04
the thought didn’t just come to mind that00:16:06
thank God there are so many children, that’s00:16:09
what concerns Cuban churches, there are00:16:12
a lot of Russians in During the times of the Soviet00:16:14
Union, about 60 thousand00:16:17
Russian-speaking women crossed over to Cuba, the00:16:19
Cubans are tall, they're00:16:22
such representative men, they came to Moscow, they00:16:25
snuggled up to Kiev, they didn't come to other00:16:26
large cities, as a rule, they00:16:30
won the sympathy of literate Russian women,00:16:33
as a rule, they were mostly00:16:36
teachers,00:16:38
engineers of some kind the woman there and they00:16:42
agreed, well, to leave the00:16:46
Soviet Union, the Iron00:16:48
Curtain was warned, well, to go to Cuba, there was a00:16:50
talisman nearby, who knows how life00:16:52
would turn out there, they agreed to get married,00:16:54
so approximately 60,000 women were00:16:58
transported to Cuba, many of them have already00:17:00
died, many are still and to00:17:03
this day they are alive and among them00:17:05
the gospel is being carried out there, there are already all of you00:17:08
who were brought to baptism, well, in general, there is00:17:11
a prospect of service there, there were00:17:13
two 7 missionaries of ours lived for a maximum of00:17:16
two years because to get there to live00:17:18
only through the curriculum as00:17:20
students, therefore our people00:17:23
We went there from a brotherhood in Ukraine for two00:17:26
years, did ministry, then left00:17:29
now because of the coronavirus, there is no one there00:17:32
because the time has come, we didn’t go there, they don’t let00:17:34
anyone in, we have someone00:17:36
responsible for service00:17:37
in Cuba, and00:17:39
he goes there regularly, it was the 19th00:17:42
trip already 19, I think that if it weren’t for00:17:48
the coronavirus, let’s say these00:17:49
restriction with this rule, then I00:17:53
would have done it faster, I hope it00:17:55
will continue to be like this, well, in 19 trips they00:17:58
managed to create a cross in them, this00:18:00
believers are being built up to in several00:18:02
places this is Havana This is Matanzas, a couple more,00:18:05
that is, first of all, they decided. Russian00:18:07
people learned from something, believers come here00:18:10
in 2015, it started first, the00:18:14
first trip was there in a year 2, that00:18:16
is, now they happen more often,00:18:18
well, well, just like that, that is, to00:18:21
say that the result is already a big one, you would00:18:24
n’t say well,00:18:26
fame in order for the meeting to be00:18:29
quite large, that is, people00:18:31
come and come, but this is that00:18:34
home groups are home groups, yes, yes,00:18:36
there are houses there, communism is there, it is not00:18:38
allowed to openly preach00:18:40
the gospel there, people gather in houses,00:18:44
but the official Cuban churches00:18:46
were not registered they have permits there, so it’s00:18:48
not your envy, they00:18:51
work like everyone else here, yes they00:18:53
work, these them have a00:18:54
certain level of accountability, but if you compare00:18:57
historically, they don’t work like everyone else00:18:59
worked in the Soviet Union, full00:19:02
accountability of the names of pastors,00:19:05
education background, well and so on,00:19:07
accountability is what concerns the00:19:10
local Cuban churches, they work like that and00:19:12
at first we had a kind of, well,00:19:15
maybe with them they didn’t know00:19:17
all the things, well, somehow, so that then00:19:20
they realized that00:19:22
inside I was met by the pastor of the Cuban00:19:24
church at the airport, he I had to00:19:26
get permission to meet00:19:27
missionaries from America from the authorities, but00:19:30
this does not suit us because the former are not used to it, and00:19:32
secondly, we have different principles, this is not00:19:34
our heritage, so that someone00:19:36
from the authorities would control us, as we00:19:38
preach, then he00:19:40
will have to write a denunciation one, what questions did00:19:43
you ask and what were you interested in,00:19:45
what stores should we go to for interest,00:19:47
for example, we went to a grocery00:19:49
store, we bought groceries, when we00:19:52
went out, we were met by the police, searched,00:19:56
asked a question, do you have permission the00:19:59
first time when we just didn’t00:20:01
take out loans? permission to preach the00:20:03
gospel in order to get on the lips if only there had been such intelligence,00:20:07
let’s say yes, now this is no longer the case, as00:20:09
if because it strongly connects you00:20:11
with them, by the way, they let you down a couple of times00:20:14
due to the fact that the authorities did not allow them to00:20:15
stay, it turns out that we came to preach00:20:17
the gospel and we didn’t we can because00:20:20
the authorities told us we don’t need it yet, but00:20:22
somehow it’s not according to the Gospels, it’s not00:20:24
our way, but of00:20:26
course they were surprised, these00:20:29
Cubans, here we are, they00:20:33
asked how our brotherhood00:20:35
should work and they said that in our00:20:37
country it’s impossible like this that’s how they00:20:40
once told our brothers there that it’s00:20:43
impossible00:20:45
they don’t have Luzhniki in churches and we’re not there00:20:49
they have nothing on this matter or not they have00:20:51
no experience don’t remember the saint yes yes yes00:20:55
she has00:20:57
I think that if they had prisoners00:20:58
they would say, maybe it makes sense00:21:00
to translate our experience00:21:04
of independence into Cuban and not somehow00:21:06
adapt it for them, we can you00:21:08
should not wish for this path, because00:21:09
asceticism maybe in their churches,00:21:11
too, there will be people of faith who will want to00:21:14
follow this path of freedom until perhaps yes00:21:18
Well, this situation in Cuba is00:21:21
very similar, that is, this is what once was00:21:24
in the Soviet Union right now,00:21:25
go to it, you will see, take it to any00:21:27
Cuban church, ask them a question, it’s the00:21:29
same for everyone, and it comes with authorized documents,00:21:32
full accountability, missionaries came00:21:34
and left here is our church in our country,00:21:37
preaching the gospel is allowed, we want it and it’s a00:21:38
communist country,00:21:40
here there are official churches,00:21:44
you can’t gather unofficially for 30 years, this is a change00:21:47
of generations, and for 30 years of testing the freedom of00:21:50
youth in America, what are these tests00:21:54
from there is a danger of losing the00:21:56
spiritual heritage of awakening,00:21:58
testing freedom00:22:00
is real a test for our00:22:03
youth, this is my personal observation, I’m00:22:06
not a youth in terms of age, I don’t go00:22:09
to college, I don’t go to universities, I would00:22:12
even say so, on the one hand, I00:22:14
try to00:22:15
be with young people as much as possible, at the same time, in00:22:19
the back of my mind, I understand that I00:22:21
already have some things, but it’s not that I don’t00:22:23
catch up,00:22:24
I can’t understand no, because they00:22:30
are too complete with the00:22:32
Americans, for example, especially student00:22:35
students, because in the class there are like 3000:22:37
students from 20 countries of the world,00:22:40
let’s say so, and you can guess who00:22:43
in college there will be a country, it’s a00:22:46
national one here in America, let me00:22:49
take a little English for two00:22:50
months, I remember college at the very beginning, when00:22:52
I arrived, we had thirty-three00:22:54
students from 28 countries of the world and everyone00:22:57
did differently and everyone was00:22:58
different - I believed in myself, I can only now00:23:01
imagine, and now that is, how00:23:03
difficult it is for our youth to look at such a00:23:06
diversity of people’s cultures, and especially their00:23:11
attitude towards religion, and so on, this is00:23:14
a test of freedom because everyone00:23:16
understands it in their own way,00:23:17
for example, atheists, they then bend their line00:23:21
but Muslims, and yes, they are very00:23:25
active in their propaganda,00:23:27
Muslims, for example, the god whom00:23:30
we believe and Muslims is the same god00:23:32
or not, this is a very serious question, but00:23:35
God, we believe in God and they believe so00:23:37
under Allah and the god who appeared to00:23:40
our Abraham Is God the same God or not?00:23:42
Young people are very interested in these questions00:23:45
because they have discussions and00:23:47
communication.00:23:50
Well, the first test is external,00:23:53
this is college university, this is the first00:23:55
second, this is the vastness of the Internet, this is already00:23:58
online, young people listen a lot, they are00:24:02
immersed in it. in00:24:05
listening to various information, well,00:24:09
as for the relationship with Christianity,00:24:10
for example, we also have the American church,00:24:12
Calvinism, this is also a very big00:24:15
test for our youth,00:24:16
predestination will come knowledge, you know,00:24:18
yes, that Western theology is very00:24:20
strong in terms of they they are symmetrical in00:24:23
their positions here I am not chasing but they did00:24:25
n’t write a book, they’re a whole volume, and that00:24:28
is, it’s here to the theologian pastors they00:24:31
speak, they give lectures and the youth00:24:34
listen to them with headphones, they listen to them there, they say00:24:37
one thing, they come to us camps, our00:24:39
communication, and here they talk about something else in the middle,00:24:42
for example, the attitude as to weapons,00:24:44
this is a very important issue00:24:47
for our youth today, these00:24:50
questions are significant, why do American00:24:52
Baptists00:24:54
promote carrying weapons and even the00:24:57
biblical one to somehow die, and we00:24:59
say that water is your lecture00:25:01
yesterday, but some brothers say we are00:25:03
confused why in the Russian brotherhood00:25:06
this is how the Americans understand it, maybe00:25:08
because there were persecutions there, there were no persecutions here, therefore,00:25:10
or these people are right, that is, they have00:25:12
a lot of questions on that topic, service in the00:25:14
army,00:25:15
attitude to politics, especially last00:25:18
year, very strongly00:25:19
the people within our believers walked around with00:25:23
caps for that president or for00:25:27
well, how to transport one thing from our diaspora to a00:25:29
small one we had such proposals00:25:32
let us see in the city we will say that00:25:35
we are more conservative and ours is a00:25:38
different spiritual heritage and we answer00:25:41
their questions in faceted we don’t sing yes00:25:43
why and here we are we answer that’s why we00:25:46
made the first camp in00:25:48
English because in Russian terminology it’s a00:25:50
little difficult for them to answer our00:25:52
Americans let’s say this is why it00:25:55
was necessary to answer these questions in English00:25:58
this prompted us to make the first camp00:26:00
completely in English it’s but kind00:26:03
of it just had to be done00:26:04
because there are some things, but00:26:07
which I find even a little difficult to00:26:10
explain in English, to name00:26:11
idioms, aphorisms that are00:26:16
in sermons, such things sound that00:26:19
even a dictionary cannot translate very well,00:26:21
and we have preachers00:26:22
brothers who are confirmed in this00:26:25
our spiritual heritage, therefore, in their00:26:27
native American language, they were able to00:26:29
film these things, by the way, and it turned out00:26:31
quite well, in my opinion, I think that our00:26:33
brothers were not completely able to00:26:36
answer everything directly, study this a little at the dacha,00:26:38
but in general it was quite good and they00:26:41
filmed our position. our00:26:43
spiritual heritage from the attitude to00:26:44
politics, this attitude to00:26:48
the military is obliged to this, that is, and00:26:52
well, we are the next question, this is how you00:26:55
form the boundaries between the church, the00:26:57
politics of the church in the army, because the tradition of00:27:00
American Baptists is the Baptists of the00:27:02
president,00:27:03
this is the hero of the nation, the report card, we play PC00:27:07
aggression of the USA,00:27:09
the best the warriors are the Puritans and but and so on and so00:27:12
forth all of American history has been well-00:27:14
fed for 100 years, it is based on such00:27:16
rather politicized values00:27:19
where everything is mixed together into one00:27:21
cocktail, yes, as if there is no such border, and00:27:23
now you have arrived with this00:27:25
inheritance of the court, you say about the fact that00:27:28
we will not take the oath, why00:27:30
because Baptists, so listen, we00:27:32
Baptists are the best warriors, you are some other00:27:33
Baptists, these are the first questions when you00:27:37
must formulate your00:27:39
positions to government agencies in the very first steps00:27:42
you take here on00:27:44
American territory then further, more00:27:47
children are born in you in America, you must invest in them the00:27:50
spiritual heritage of brotherhood, the conclusion00:27:53
is how to draw these boundaries and draw yours, so00:27:56
you, as the head of the youth00:27:58
department of the youth department, gather a conference, the time is00:28:00
quite a difficult society, it is00:28:02
politicized and naturally the challenges of00:28:05
our time, these challenges must be00:28:07
answered in a reasoned timely manner00:28:10
Biblical competently substantiated00:28:12
questions about why when you quit, your00:28:15
mother allows you to ask questions00:28:17
why you can’t ask questions why it’s customary for00:28:20
us all to ask, and we lost the battle00:28:22
if we don’t have arguments, if we00:28:24
can’t explain our position to the authorities00:28:26
to argue for it, then we lost this00:28:29
battle, but our positions00:28:32
no longer have an impact00:28:33
if the question why cannot be asked, that00:28:36
is, only those positions a are not viable00:28:40
when we can saturate them00:28:42
with argumentation and when these arguments are00:28:45
focused on obvious goodness on00:28:48
obvious virtue on consolidating00:28:50
some basic biblical values and00:28:52
so I have a question: how do you form00:28:55
these boundaries in the minds of young people? Until we see, as for the00:29:00
question of the oath in00:29:02
America, in the army people only go00:29:05
voluntarily, this of course makes it easier for our,00:29:07
that is, our youth, to join the army. I don’t know00:29:10
which of our churches went to the army, but00:29:12
there are a couple guys are the children of our parents, but00:29:16
they are not church people, nothing at our00:29:17
church, they, well, going to the army in America00:29:20
is very profitable, that is, on the one00:29:23
hand, there is a temptation for youth to00:29:25
accept and went there, well, finished00:29:27
higher education in America, it is very00:29:28
expensive if you go to army and then went to00:29:31
work better at a much easier time, that00:29:32
is, you don’t even have to go earn00:29:34
this money, you can build a house, that00:29:37
is, there are benefits there, let’s say yes, but00:29:40
even this advantage of joining the army as a citizen does00:29:43
not greatly affect our00:29:45
youth, that is I mean, it’s not like00:29:46
that, let’s be there, these are in the army00:29:48
there among the brothers,00:29:50
so for us the issue of the oath is not very00:29:52
important at the moment because people00:29:55
don’t go to the army there, not I remember 11 years00:29:57
ago I took the00:30:00
citizenship test Yes, and about us there were 8 people,00:30:04
how does the process for citizenship go, you are00:30:07
given questions 100 questions, an exam, you00:30:10
must answer a certain number of00:30:11
questions, I don’t remember exactly, if you00:30:13
answered them, then it will go and then go to let’s00:30:16
say such an inauguration, that is, that is,00:30:19
thousands of five hundred people gather00:30:20
approximately in a large hall and00:30:24
for many this is a court holiday who00:30:27
came here illegally and sought00:30:28
permission for American citizenship,00:30:31
well, we lived for five years and and and they00:30:33
gave us citizenship, so I remember there00:30:35
were several of us00:30:37
who, well, on the same day received00:30:42
American passports and when I came for00:30:44
an interview, an interview with me00:30:47
was interviewed by a Chinese woman,00:30:50
by the way, they speak English very difficult, it’s00:30:52
so difficult to understand,00:30:54
even the Chinese living in America, their00:30:57
pronunciation of English is very difficult, and00:30:58
when I saw her and with my English00:31:01
then I was kind of but nevertheless, I00:31:05
submitted the paper, I00:31:07
signed that I swore I wouldn’t, this is our00:31:11
position, we won’t give an oath, we00:31:13
won’t pray for America and we pray to God, I’m there00:31:16
like because for this inauguration, let’s say00:31:19
yes, there you need to raise your hand and repeat the00:31:22
prayer, I’m so and so I will pray00:31:24
for this, we pray that I will serve this00:31:26
country, that we will not do this, it’s00:31:28
interesting that when I passed the exam, I00:31:32
submitted this paper, now she did00:31:36
n’t get very angry with us and she took it and threw the00:31:39
documents on the floor, well, in America this is this00:31:42
strange, that is, this is no framework at all, but00:31:45
it turns out that I took the exam00:31:47
for 3 and after the wedding,00:31:49
my marriage was on Sunday, Wednesday and I passed the00:31:52
exam, by the way, sometimes I didn’t prepare at all,00:31:53
there was preparation, I forgot that00:31:55
I had an exam, some kind of miracle, in general, I00:31:58
passed the minimum and when I already left there,00:32:02
I didn’t know what would happen to me next,00:32:06
we had documents in the cinema on the floor, they basically00:32:07
drove me away, I only managed to grab00:32:10
some piece of paper about this, and in general, it was00:32:13
my honor that the American asked me to take my00:32:16
feet about it asked what happened for00:32:20
some reason, I was so upset, I explained00:32:22
how she took my documents there,00:32:25
threw them away, well, she’s doing this and won’t fall, that’s in00:32:29
general, he started calling and a00:32:31
few days later they called me from the White House00:32:34
Washington white house personally, they00:32:36
apologized in the place the woman00:32:39
no longer works there and take00:32:41
your passport,00:32:43
that is, the person has such00:32:45
principles and does not want to take the oath,00:32:47
this is his right, why throw away his00:32:50
document if you don’t allow it in China00:32:52
or in America there, that is,00:32:53
this situation showed me then that00:32:56
the government is federal and it recognizes00:32:59
our right not to take an oath, well, for me00:33:03
it was something like a confirmation00:33:05
Nuno, but how we draw the lines, well,00:33:09
we preach, see history, brotherhood,00:33:13
even double unions for our youth, this is00:33:16
not a strong argument on the one00:33:17
hand, because historically there, when the00:33:20
church entered politics, the00:33:23
authorities began to control the church in00:33:26
America, when the00:33:28
state does not control the church much,00:33:30
at least it used to be so, and this is the00:33:34
question that we are now working on00:33:37
because we understand for sure that the Bible00:33:39
cannot work on the shore in an attack on00:33:41
Russia. the biblical principle they are00:33:42
unchanged regardless of which side and00:33:45
we have such an idea00:33:49
to make a report on00:33:52
this topic for the next American camp, how it will go, how well-00:33:54
reasoned it will be, I don’t know about my00:33:55
brothers reading books and we will be greatly00:33:58
helped by the mine no and because the mine is not that I00:34:00
don’t understand, just like we do, the attitude towards00:34:02
politics and power. Mennonites alone are not00:34:05
Baptists, but they have very good00:34:07
books. Historically, when they00:34:10
won back these positions and they didn’t take00:34:14
an oath, they have the same position,00:34:16
we are not in power, that is, such a00:34:19
civil position that00:34:20
’s why we are now trying to00:34:23
summarize the Bible more, well, the00:34:25
Bible also says that the00:34:27
American Baptists, as far as I00:34:29
understand, and not in these matters, focus a lot00:34:31
on the Old Testament,00:34:33
we are at least no less than00:34:36
in relation to the New Testament, we are in ours00:34:39
arguments let's say and retreat not the00:34:42
idea00:34:43
where Jesus will go there the disciples will follow him00:34:45
Jesus went there to parliament no,00:34:50
that is, we are more guided by00:34:52
your thoughts to the New Testament, the Americans,00:34:55
how would they00:34:56
equalize it, that is, in the Old Testament there were00:34:59
such people as Daniel Joseph and bread00:35:01
was distributed and bokiy blessed but they00:35:04
had the criminal right to stone the00:35:05
death penalty we have no lips of the church00:35:09
we have the church no criminal law this is00:35:13
another time, a completely different period00:35:15
there was a theocratic state that00:35:17
had cities of refuge capital00:35:21
punishments deserved there to beat the heater what00:35:24
what we today we have from us the00:35:26
Lord took away the death row from the church we have00:35:28
no executioners we do not have a church00:35:30
inquisition we do not have a church army00:35:33
church crusades everything that00:35:36
Angus condemned comes from precisely the legacy of the00:35:38
Old Testament in the Catholic Church against the00:35:40
background of which the Reformation was born at once00:35:42
and when I NBU skagos forms00:35:45
formulated these theses that00:35:48
God divided the secular sword and the spiritual sword forever in00:35:51
the person of Jesus Christ, it is fitting for us as warriors of Jesus00:35:54
Christ to fight only with the spiritual00:35:57
sword of the word of God, this is the legacy of the00:35:59
Reformation, but you see,00:36:02
Gennady Konstantinovich helped and the00:36:04
words belong to that how will you help00:36:06
formulate that ours victories should00:36:08
be a victory, but for other countries, and as I00:36:11
remember this quote, that’s what I think,00:36:14
in America there are people in00:36:17
American churches who also understand like00:36:20
we do, for example, even my father-in-law is one of the00:36:24
points why he moved from the American00:36:26
church to the council of churches I don’t know the Russian00:36:28
language, it was in such questions, I always00:36:31
- the measure came, he says how the church00:36:34
can promote the carrying of weapons, and00:36:37
one American from Nevada visited our church, he was00:36:43
simply destroyed, became very ill,00:36:46
many times my home was our church,00:36:48
he even thought about becoming a member of our00:36:50
church, well, it’s too far to travel, I missed00:36:53
the question of why it’s important there in Carson City there00:36:56
are American churches, I’m a member of00:36:59
the church there, he says, but the things that your00:37:02
brotherhood says are what I’ve already00:37:05
persuaded, for example, the separation of the church from00:37:07
politics, garnier understood everything the table blue00:37:09
We simply don’t have people who00:37:12
would preach this topic in English in a00:37:15
well-reasoned biblical manner.00:37:17
I’m thinking, God or God, please00:37:21
stay with us, the young brothers of you00:37:22
whom we are working on now are listening to00:37:24
your lectures and seminars so that they can convey to the Americans in00:37:27
their native language00:37:29
English00:37:32
By the way, when we were in Phoenix in that00:37:33
American network, Borisovich, here is one of the00:37:36
moments that my brother said00:37:39
preached to a young man, he didn’t really00:37:40
understand the pit, he just gave some00:37:42
moments something to talk about, let’s say then that00:37:44
our church is separated from politics, our00:37:46
brotherhood, this, by the way, raised a lot of00:37:49
questions for us Pastor Mike called us to an00:37:51
audience, come to your senses or drink tea, he was00:37:53
very interested when we know something00:37:55
about this year, we have a completely00:37:57
different history, we have 35000:38:00
million people in America and more than 400 million00:38:02
weapons,00:38:04
that is, we have like them if you are a Baptist,00:38:07
then the guys should have at least one00:38:09
gun, and that’s how they say, a00:38:11
man came into Texas and shot in a house of prayer,00:38:13
no question, brother Benjamin did it,00:38:16
let’s arm our00:38:18
doorkeepers because we live in00:38:19
America with all the weapons, that is, as it were even00:38:22
the facts that are happening, as if they00:38:24
were playing on their side of the house,00:38:26
look at everything by the hour of weapons, we say,00:38:29
dear, you can’t do anything in00:38:31
that church, there were people in the city, there were weapons and00:38:34
they were about to do it, that is,00:38:37
we are trying, as it were, but probably00:38:40
more not even historically anymore,00:38:41
biblically, what the New Testament says about this00:38:43
and we will work in this00:38:45
direction and because our children live00:38:47
in this country and I think that this issue is a00:38:49
question of weapons of election politics, this is a00:38:52
long-term issue that will00:38:55
have a long continuation,00:38:56
and even more so in the last time,00:38:59
given the political situation of the church, to00:39:02
get even more involved in politics, well,00:39:05
because it’s the same, that is, before it00:39:06
was somehow very different even wash yourself00:39:08
say I remember in our park there are storms there00:39:10
1 2 3 now some want to make 100:39:13
party Bonaparte others say00:39:15
the opposite the other is on desk 0 and against the backdrop of00:39:17
this, billions of dollars are being spent on the00:39:19
chosen company and our people are involved00:39:21
in this news, listening to the conspiracy theory,00:39:24
and so on until this vaccine has an abortion00:39:27
and the like, so we say this00:39:29
every soul, yes, as a citizen you have the00:39:32
right to express your position on if you want to00:39:33
vote for this person, vote,00:39:35
well, let’s not provoke preachers in our camps at our00:39:38
meetings in our churches00:39:40
on00:39:41
this topic, we have nothing to do with them00:39:44
because there have been some00:39:46
like this, even among preachers,00:39:49
but it’s clear that the check has heard enough something and,00:39:51
as if not quite consciously, said00:39:53
some things and even then Galina would00:39:55
take and we preach Christ crucified00:39:57
not politics, these are the mutually00:40:01
reinforcing ties with times in the trash and00:40:03
America, we understand that our00:40:05
brotherhood begins with the brother sitting00:40:08
next to him on the bench not from Moscow,00:40:10
that is, if I don’t love my neighbor, then I don’t00:40:12
love the brotherhood, my brotherhood is the00:40:16
person with whom I go to church,00:40:18
this is my youth, this is the first thing we00:40:21
tell the youth, that to00:40:24
love brotherhood is to love00:40:27
your neighbor brother in your church, this is the00:40:29
first but second that in general the question is very00:40:33
interesting00:40:34
for me personally, as for me, in my00:40:37
understanding, I see that we have a00:40:40
need to be in brotherhood, at00:40:42
least today, at least00:40:45
today, 2021, why do we need00:40:49
brotherhood when there are at least some00:40:52
guidelines, you at least have where to start00:40:55
thinking, but even at such a moment,00:40:59
my children are growing up, the guys will need to get00:41:01
married00:41:03
or think about all of world Christianity00:41:06
and then suffer for a long time from either thinking, but00:41:09
as you can see, when we, with him, our children00:41:11
will get married, we take whose00:41:12
relatives are the same It’s not an easy matter00:41:16
when I, but I imagine my children00:41:19
will get married within the framework of the decoration,00:41:21
I have already decided many issues, but as a00:41:23
rule, this means that people from the same00:41:25
principles had, as a rule, without tradition, let’s00:41:28
say so maybe there are some things that00:41:30
make it a lot easier, well, sort of that’s what00:41:32
brotherhood is for, secondly, our children00:41:35
study the art of music before00:41:37
serving God, I won’t organize a00:41:41
seminar for my children myself. Ready to go,00:41:43
you’re going there, send00:41:45
other unions, this means you need to study all the00:41:47
teachers, that is, this is00:41:50
additional work that you don’t00:41:51
need and as soon as the whole brotherhood you sent00:41:54
a child, you are calm there, our people00:41:58
are ours there, the same dogma there00:42:01
and there will not teach what you didn’t teach at home,00:42:03
these are such blessings that you00:42:06
just need to realize that’s why00:42:09
we are in the brotherhood that’s why we need00:42:11
brotherhood, you are grateful to God for00:42:14
getting to us, which we have today, with all00:42:15
our disadvantages, we are grateful to God, for00:42:19
example, as for the Russian00:42:21
brotherhood, I don’t, I don’t know how to00:42:23
go where to go, I go, I also happen to change my00:42:25
advantages of being a fearer of God without it, but00:42:28
in terms of structure, I personally seem to be00:42:31
generally satisfied with this,00:42:32
so we need the brotherhood, well,00:42:36
we need the brotherhood, we need the brotherhood to thank00:42:38
that they have an American association of00:42:40
regiments and without an American association they00:42:42
can send money, we understand he and00:42:44
Voronoff sent it, but we will act00:42:46
through people and when people come to us00:42:48
when they are helping with funerals, our people00:42:51
donate a lot to brotherhoods in terms of00:42:54
church members, for families, for some00:42:56
needs,00:42:57
tens of hundreds of thousands of dollars, we know00:42:59
what we are talking about and we encourage00:43:02
people to do this, we have large numbers that need to be00:43:05
passed through we have a mission that00:43:09
works for the brotherhood, three missions00:43:12
that are part of the big brotherhood, so the00:43:15
brotherhood also needs us and we are happy about this, I00:43:18
think that the dynamics are tightening the hooks and00:43:20
this implied, of course, that America is a00:43:24
rich country, people will live here,00:43:26
earn money,00:43:27
take money, and we come to us there let's go I'll00:43:30
be going to Belarus I'm going I shouldn't00:43:32
meet with brothers whom I've never00:43:34
seen in person We have a community of spirit We have00:43:37
churches ordination We don't00:43:39
need to look on the Internet for the00:43:41
right brother We called us00:43:43
They came and ordained There are00:43:46
a lot of advantages We have a lot of00:43:48
camps youth communication takes place and00:43:51
young people like it when people come00:43:53
from abroad, this also contributes its00:43:58
own content, certain things in general, I would00:44:02
say that our churches, our churches,00:44:05
they are located, brother, we have quite an00:44:08
active participation in this course, by the way,00:44:11
coronavirus, here it is,00:44:13
well, how you could see on the one hand that they00:44:20
stopped coming to us and as if we were missing a00:44:22
little something for someone00:44:23
on the one hand00:44:25
as if they just felt it from that00:44:28
knitting person they don’t give him a visa because the plane doesn’t00:44:30
fly and something else- then on the other hand, we00:44:34
began to show ourselves more towards and00:44:35
independently of the association, but there is no00:44:37
complete autonomy in terms of either, but each00:44:40
association has00:44:42
its own leaders, and in00:44:44
February we had the first general fraternal00:44:47
communication of ministers without the arrival of brothers00:44:50
guests from the ocean floor which00:44:53
you came especially for this communication and I00:44:55
closely followed the development of the00:44:57
ministry. Answers to questions from the chairman of00:45:01
our association, the00:45:02
American Council, I was glad that00:45:05
we had an00:45:09
association on our own, that is, we can resolve00:45:11
issues before 15 years ago, for00:45:13
any questions, call there brothers00:45:15
we came here for six months at a time, we00:45:16
were now regulating our00:45:20
own camp courses, we have a00:45:22
large association of more than 5,00000:45:24
church members, we are in fifth place in terms of the number of00:45:26
church members in the brotherhood, that is, we are00:45:28
sure we are growing, we are grateful to God, and for00:45:32
some reason I think so have faith,00:45:35
let’s say then that we00:45:38
will continue in this direction for a long time, I00:45:40
believe in it, even if we00:45:42
conduct it in English, it will not00:45:45
affect relations with the brotherhood; the principles00:45:47
must remain the same spiritual00:45:50
heritage, just in a different language,00:45:53
that is, only the language remembers no more,00:45:56
I’ll say about the camp that it was00:46:00
noticed that our youth00:46:04
may not be many, I don’t know when they00:46:06
went to this camp00:46:08
they had a wife, they wanted to know00:46:12
this camp, change only the language or there00:46:15
will be many principles changed later than to00:46:18
clap your hands, we teach you to dance00:46:19
on the march of worship of God, American00:46:22
songs, in front of there there, we will00:46:24
greet weapons in the distance, find to00:46:26
serve and some of the police00:46:28
admitted it as reviews00:46:31
only the language changed everything else also00:46:32
the group when it was our task what to change00:46:35
what to change as my father-in-law said, friends,00:46:39
as soon as the council of churches deviates00:46:41
from some point in faith and teaching, we will be the00:46:44
first to say so; we00:46:45
will not be in this brotherhood,00:46:47
you think we are not following this;00:46:49
believers are not satisfied with the council of churches; you can test their00:46:52
doctrines of our brotherhood00:46:54
that brotherhood is first an00:46:59
inheritance and then a set of structures,00:47:03
this is not first a structure, but it is still00:47:06
first a spiritual heritage,00:47:08
because in the Russian Empire the structure00:47:11
then changed into an inheritance, it followed a00:47:14
certain line, so they understood that brother, this00:47:16
brother is just the world of Alice, then the inheritances of the00:47:18
structures changed the unions collapsed and people00:47:20
also remained faithful to God, and00:47:22
somehow it is even in the Bible, this is how00:47:25
our brothers are representatives in the light of the church,00:47:28
we have employees of the covenant church of the00:47:29
member of the light, that is, we are completely00:47:31
part of a large brotherhood, I don’t know00:47:34
how much they treat us like that00:47:37
ocean, well, it seems that the Americans are there,00:47:40
if it can be measured and something00:47:42
good, those sick California Hollywood is00:47:43
nearby, but we00:47:47
are surprised by the grace of God and we00:47:50
are surprised by the grace of God given by the00:47:52
American churches, we try, at00:47:54
least we try as much as we can, it does00:47:56
n’t always work out, but ours position, it is00:47:59
correct, in my opinion, that is, your00:48:01
participation in the gospel is00:48:03
correct, and Gennady Konstantin also00:48:07
wrote such words that the anniversary of00:48:09
brotherhood is only a springboard for future00:48:11
victories, we have cleared a springboard for future00:48:14
victories from the desire of this righteous man to00:48:19
convey spiritual awakening on stage by the gospel union in Europe in00:48:22
America in Russia and in other countries what do00:48:24
you, as the churches of the International Union of00:48:26
Churches in America, do for this so00:48:30
that the00:48:31
spiritual values of the awakened brotherhood00:48:34
become the property of other Slavic00:48:37
churches and maybe even the national union of00:48:40
America, you have such a00:48:42
program in general for the future,00:48:44
well, regarding the program, I have given such an idea,00:48:48
as for the American00:48:50
churches, we want to prepare00:48:54
our young brothers who would be established00:48:57
in these true ones and in order to00:49:00
carry this further than the American church,00:49:03
then for the future, you see, we00:49:06
still seem to have a shortage of personnel for such brothers00:49:08
tattoo also in Russian his difficulties of a00:49:10
person who can celebrate in the Bible00:49:11
what is here in English00:49:13
so take it away we tell them brothers00:49:15
study the Bible ask questions00:49:18
study wear the teachings of our brotherhood we00:49:20
must tell the American00:49:23
we on a private level we do this to us00:49:25
Americans come to our church with us00:49:28
all the time people come sporadically, that00:49:30
is, they ask questions, we answer, but in00:49:33
terms of systematic work, go to the circus,00:49:35
where is it while we have these coins, as00:49:38
for the Slavic unions, we have00:49:41
contacts, you know, how in America00:49:44
there are a number of churches that do not belong to00:49:47
either the council of churches, let’s say not00:49:50
they are not satisfied with other unions, they will say neither one00:49:53
union nor the other on some issues, but00:49:55
they are very strongly favorable to us, and00:49:58
to them, and if I am a blogger and sometimes I see00:49:59
some kind of family, well, at this level00:50:02
we are of course telling, well, I wouldn’t00:50:06
say what is there besides the question of00:50:07
the military there, but this question is 800:50:10
childbirth with me in the family camp, in00:50:11
general, would you be number one like00:50:13
how how do we look at this, the issue of the00:50:15
appearance of young people, this is Masha after all,00:50:18
values and we talk about this but00:50:21
to me it seems that00:50:23
we are already well known more or less00:50:25
here, that is, they come and ask questions,00:50:29
could there be another question00:50:33
about awakening in America, were there any00:50:36
centers of awakening for three hundred years, have you00:50:39
studied them, if there are common signs with the00:50:43
awakening of which there was in Russia,00:50:46
you see the question that you asked is a00:50:48
very long-term question for us, but the fact is00:50:52
that now that we have held the00:50:54
English camp, we have become more00:50:57
interested in these issues and00:50:59
we have such an idea00:51:02
that in a year we will complete a certain report;00:51:06
our brothers are now working on it how00:51:08
the church developed in the USA is very00:51:12
interesting, I’m interested in myself, we00:51:14
have very interesting places, we even00:51:16
want to go with a group of brother00:51:18
preachers to these places00:51:19
where there were awakenings, well, as far as I’m concerned00:51:22
now, in America we had four00:51:24
great awakenings,00:51:26
probably not entirely local answer here are00:51:29
the great ones, well, Jonathan Edwards before there was such a00:51:33
preacher, especially when he said00:51:36
the sermon is a sinner in the hands of an angry00:51:38
God, this is actually a sermon one of the most00:51:41
famous sermons in the USA from00:51:44
there it began from the awakening, but there is00:51:47
a problem what it was Calvinists00:51:49
see here the awakening is connected with the00:51:53
wrong understanding of the Bible which we understand,00:51:55
therefore, here we need some kind of00:51:57
compromise, also God is a matter of awakening00:52:00
baked ri fought with the center fought00:52:02
when tents were set up in tents, but there00:52:04
the question of music was a slightly different question of00:52:06
worshiping God, well, that is, this00:52:09
theology was not like ours before00:52:12
there was an awakening somewhere, there was an awakening,00:52:13
people when they came to God, missionaries were00:52:16
sent, but the question in the confusion is a little00:52:18
wrong, so we are now studying this question00:52:20
about the ministry of Billy Graham, it00:52:23
refers to one of the great00:52:26
awakenings in America, well, even my00:52:27
father-in-law, he was an unbeliever, he says we00:52:30
all listened to Billy Graham, that is, then there were00:52:33
too many options and there was no chatting00:52:35
either, the technology was not yet really great for00:52:38
repairs, somehow a person who had00:52:39
the resources of technology, all the presidents invited him, here is00:52:41
my example, I listened to00:52:44
several sermons, for example, in00:52:46
New York there was a gathering in the park more than 50000:52:49
thousand people I listened to it 2 or 3 pro00:52:52
peacock that's what I tell you the strongest00:52:56
sermons with not a single story00:52:58
touching the soul of a person except the00:53:01
purest gospel I am surprised how00:53:03
it is possible only to use the gospel texts on a00:53:06
selection of the correct ones and in English texts to00:53:09
call people to repentance to the realization of00:53:12
their of sinfulness, this of course00:53:14
greatly impresses me here, well, as it happens with me,00:53:16
how I need to tell something else00:53:18
in order to influence the feelings of people,00:53:20
at the same time the post of this00:53:24
sermon when the Holy Spirit touched people00:53:27
people repented among them, mine we are here00:53:29
he says it influenced my foothills00:53:31
gods heard only from him says he00:53:33
spoke everywhere says Eva knew all of00:53:35
America he went to the president clasped his hands00:53:38
you see and here I have00:53:41
a question for you how can we00:53:44
today’s youth we either share00:53:48
these issues of00:53:50
awakening in not other issues as00:53:53
an act of God’s grace or will we00:53:55
still need something like this, well, how do00:53:58
we understand that shaking hands with the president00:54:01
and getting into politics as this is not our00:54:03
heritage and yet God acted00:54:06
how would you answer this question and00:54:09
this as if in our development, that is,00:54:12
we need to somehow answer the youth,00:54:14
they really care about these questions00:54:15
literally after your speech, we00:54:18
took off the fee with the brothers there and they00:54:20
say yes, everything is very good,00:54:23
brother Benjamin, in general, he told everything there,00:54:26
he says, but our preachers are00:54:28
American they were in politics and God did00:54:30
not act through them and there were awakenings and00:54:32
no one raised horses after that, as for00:54:36
us now here to00:54:39
the audience, so I answered so00:54:42
truly the separation of church and state00:54:44
was not open by Billy Graham since the00:54:46
dynamics are tightened with a hook now we know00:54:49
this truth we do not have rights and reject this is how00:54:53
I answered them,00:54:55
that is, it is not necessary that these brushes00:54:57
should be open to everyone, that is, as00:55:00
rivers answered correctly and I agree with00:55:02
you, I would just like to strengthen this00:55:04
idea,00:55:05
you know, the time when Billy Graham00:55:08
came to the Soviet Union under conditions of persecution00:55:10
we were in the time of Andropov, double00:55:12
second sentences of imprisonment, we were given freedom to take without00:55:15
Mikhail and grab a tour, hard00:55:17
times, Billy Graham was given the opportunity to00:55:19
perform in four cities of the Soviet00:55:21
Union, but no one knew that the00:55:23
condition for his arrival in the Soviet Union00:55:25
was his signature, and the Soviet ambassador was00:55:29
kind, well and at the Soviet embassy he00:55:34
signed a three-sheet signature that he00:55:36
undertakes00:55:37
and one of the points of this subscription is I00:55:39
undertake not to come into contact with00:55:41
religious dissidents whom he considers00:55:43
Soviet and religious 10 well, that is,00:55:44
we are the persecuted ones, not registered, the tsar00:55:47
not to come into contact with them therefore00:55:49
when before and when they raised posters in front of him00:55:51
that there are 200 prisoners in our country,00:55:53
remember me when you feel00:55:55
good, he just lowered his head and made it00:55:57
mandatory not to make contact, I don’t00:55:59
talk about music, then in an interview with I, I00:56:02
didn’t see some posters in Odessa click no00:56:04
I saw my eyes lowered and closed, but00:56:07
too many articles were heard about this in00:56:09
America, that Billy Graham renounced the00:56:11
persecuted Christians, he did not notice those who00:56:15
in front of him raised posters and so on, a00:56:17
few more years passed, the situation00:56:20
in the Soviet Union changed, the Politburo00:56:22
disappeared, the Communist Party disappeared the00:56:25
Soviet Union disappeared, freedom came00:56:28
to preach the gospel, he was given the opportunity00:56:31
to participate00:56:32
in stadiums in a different historical00:56:35
context of Russia, it turned out that all00:56:37
communism did not become somehow this one in the00:56:39
form in which it was until 91, and00:56:42
Victor Agam from Billy Graham brought a letter of00:56:46
repentance to the Council of Churches was transferred00:56:49
his letter where he asks to forgive him for00:56:52
a compromise so that he would turn away from the prisoners and00:56:56
this letter was personally handed to Peter by Victor Gamli to Danilo00:57:00
choupette grew up personally00:57:02
telling me that I brought a letter from Billy00:57:04
Graham he asked for forgiveness he admitted yes00:57:07
as his apostasy as00:57:10
his cowardice as a compromise like a deal by the Soviet00:57:15
government so that he would be given visas00:57:16
to preach in the Soviet Union as a00:57:19
lack of faith, you00:57:21
know, when a person knows how to ask for00:57:23
forgiveness, this also indicates that he is a00:57:25
strong personality, which means he00:57:27
understands correctly and we understood these questions correctly00:57:30
and the Holy Spirit convicted him that00:57:32
this was his weakness husband or do you00:57:35
allow the idea that the00:57:38
separation of church and state was00:57:41
specifically a revelation of Gennady00:57:42
Konstantinovich00:57:43
and this revelation, let’s say, God did not honor00:57:45
all people, is it possible to say that, I’ll tell00:57:48
you so here is00:57:50
the history of this issue until 1700 years, for00:57:55
1700 years the church was00:57:57
in captivity00:58:00
this erroneous doctrine is00:58:01
cooperation with the state starting00:58:03
from Constantine, but we were able to00:58:05
proclaim and condemn and repent at00:58:09
the congress to perform conciliar repentance for the00:58:11
sins of the fathers and00:58:13
introduce in 60 years the practice of a different00:58:17
economy, and this and this reform00:58:19
took 60 years, I believe that this is a lesson for00:58:23
world Christianity Now we need to00:58:26
make it common knowledge to the whole world, the task is to ensure that00:58:29
these values are00:58:31
passed on further, first of all, they are00:58:33
meaningful and passed on further. We are00:58:36
not talking about this because we have this00:58:39
feeling of superiority over them, they are00:58:41
bad and good, or maybe they00:58:43
they are good and bad, it’s just that we are00:58:45
not talking now about who is better, we are talking about that00:58:48
there is a way, but if a good00:58:50
person does not stand on a bad path, this is the path of the00:58:52
wicked, the question is not whether we are00:58:53
better or not, but a [ __ ] ray, which path is better00:58:57
in the eyes of God and we we say that the path00:58:59
of independence is better than the path of00:59:01
dependence because it pleases God00:59:03
because it is his English because it is00:59:05
something in the spirit of the First Apostolic Church and00:59:07
this is the springboard for future00:59:09
victories, understand this experience, perceive and00:59:12
pass on and multiply it and00:59:15
share this spiritual bread with its00:59:17
English unions on anal unions00:59:19
above you who are open to00:59:21
perceive the truth here in America a00:59:23
huge number came out, this is the00:59:25
number one country for00:59:28
missionaries who were shot to00:59:30
the West, this is the number one country for the number of00:59:32
donations for00:59:35
missionary projects around the world and00:59:37
this is the country it Today I am incurably ill with00:59:41
this scum of the merging of the church of00:59:43
politics, the church of business, the church and the army, the00:59:46
church of sports, everything is like in one cocktail,00:59:48
everything is mixed, maybe this is00:59:50
your mission to be this salt so that00:59:53
this small army of ascetics of people00:59:56
who understand sensibly, we choose,00:59:58
grow up in this truth, perceive her01:00:01
can today this spirit of awakening01:00:04
pass on further01:00:06
can this be your mission you know01:00:09
English you know Russian currency01:00:12
educated in young enough and01:00:14
may God bless01:00:16
may God stand more in you your01:00:20
ministry 2 you do thank you for the01:00:23
interview01:00:24
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