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Space War, Pong, Asteroids - физика в первых играх

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The Incredible Machine

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Что больше всего впечатлило?

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Первые авиасимуляторы

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Автосимуляторы

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Что может рассчитываться в автосимуляторе?

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Sega Rally

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We welcome everyone, dear viewers and

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listeners on the air of podcast games.ru

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episode number 44 and with you its host,

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Lidi Mas, having moved away somewhat from live

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communication with you, we decided to record a new

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episode on one of the topics that we

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mentioned, namely physics in In games, we are already

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accustomed to the fact that virtual worlds

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live according to the real laws of physics. Well, or at

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least they are trying to do this.

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In any modern day, you

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can see it at work, cause

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some kind of accident, cause an explosion, throw

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some kind of debris across the screen that will

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live its own life of course, often It

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has a purely cosmetic application, but

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physics can be used not only

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to create a heightened effect of beauty or

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realism, but also to create new

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game mechanics, you

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don’t have to look far for examples, there are games like the

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Gish portal and many others, and it

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can manifest itself not only in terms of ballistics and

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gravity friction of a liquid or gas

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change in the state of matter destruction of

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objects behavior

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Mnukhin and other things That is,

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today we would like to discuss such a

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phenomenon as Physics in games

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talk about it in general, of course, you

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can talk about it for a very long time even with

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examples like that introduce games into some of

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your projects, but that’s not the point of our

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program; we’d like to provide

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some more general information. Yes, give

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guidelines, give examples for thought and

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discussion, and actually show how this

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applies to games. Well, okay,

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then let’s start with history Yes, this is a rather

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interesting topic because in those days

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when computer games were just beginning

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to be created, many developers appeared

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at the same time as

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Emrah, so they also

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had games like this, some kind of modeling

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was supposed even if we take Here is the first

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arcade game Space War Space War Two

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ships fought around the planet at the

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same time they simulated the force of gravity

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which influenced the trajectory of the projectiles

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control of the boats themselves which was

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quite serious at that time if

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the fate is that this is the first game in general in the

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year sixty-two it was first

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created and then it was just

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ported tomatoes in short the story is

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quite long Well then it appeared pon where is

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some kind of attempt to simulate real

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rackets? Let's say with which they are played. Yes,

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what is there to correctly calculate the angle of how

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they fly off; the formulas are again simple, but this is an

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example of the fact that this

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was really already some kind of modeling. Then

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take the same asteroids there, not only of

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the ship had inertia, but the asteroids also

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scattered from the shots quite well.

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Well, let’s put it this way plausibly, but the sun is

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also some semblance of a

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dynamic movement model, let’s remember the games where the

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ball rolls on the surface such as

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marb and other followers and

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clones there are games about balance and which

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we are talking about by the way in my opinion, they said: Yes, it’s

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even quite

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plausible

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that a ball interacts with a surface in some

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games and bounce, that is, they bounce

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off the surface from the walls, and so on,

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all sorts of surfaces, and so on,

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friction, which also deserves interest,

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or let’s remember games like lunar lender, also

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alone from the first games where it was necessary to

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land modules on the moon with also a fairly

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plausible calculation of fuel and,

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accordingly, the traction force with which

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you need to land correctly so as not to

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crash and not to crash Yes, and so that the

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fuel does not run out yet, the fuel does not run out, despite the fact

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that there is Gravity on this planet

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Yes yes yes Gravity can be Well,

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of course, there are a lot of followers,

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including three-dimensional

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options. What other examples can you

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give of the need for a physical

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engine, for example, the same electronic pinball,

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that is,

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converting real-life

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mechanical NBOs into electronic form,

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they were even in the form of slot machines? Well, I

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mean, on the screen, well there, in principle,

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too. This is one of the examples of games that

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simulate, well, the usual Newtonian

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classical mechanics, that is,

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Newton’s laws. Yes, everything starts the same there.

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That is, you set the force with which

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the hammer or what to call it hits the

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ball Yes, elastic

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collisions there are some kind of impact there- then the calls

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could be gates I think that there

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probably on the table there may be different

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densities of material used Well, in

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these elements so that there is how to

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say less definite the result

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is given in electronic versions I think that

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everything there is quite simple and the number

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means different equations for which

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all this is calculated not so much

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quite popular when Osta

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or another also very popular genre

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is the so-called artillery games

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as they can be called, that

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is, known to all of us, mentioned many times by us

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and its followers, in

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particular the game that was in the early

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nineties very

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popular and so on, no matter what, there

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was something before that, no, there were

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games before that, I watched some from the

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seventies, even yes, well, the gist of it is that you

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need to set

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the speed and

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direction of the shot from some kind of gun and then it flies

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along, well, it could be a two-dimensional or

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three-dimensional map to some point Well, the

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goal is to hit. At the same time, additional conditions can be made

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to the trajectory of the flight,

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wind speed

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accordingly Yes, Gravity also affects

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because there the projectile flies in a parabola, this

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projectile must also be taken into account Yes, well, in

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principle, there are not many possibilities here,

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in fact, in the very first games, the

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main parameters were already there,

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everything was already provided for

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Gravity That's how you say

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wind power, different projectiles Yes, it’s a shame,

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but the projectile if different somehow

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introduce well, plus they would be interested in a

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destructible landscape according to physical or

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non-physical laws. I don’t know, but

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this is a characteristic feature. When the

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sun appeared, it really became.

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Many people think it’s. Well, what is it

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just a Clone? Yes, even from the point of

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view of physics, it became quite Well, some kind of

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breakthrough because there it was already possible

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to deform not just with shells but with the

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worms themselves, in principle, it seems that this is

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nonsense in fact, it is

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actually more possible for and,

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accordingly, difficulties for the creator

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Well, and the culmination of this idea, of course,

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is the bir series, which bypassed everyone

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in terms of earnings level Well, the culmination in

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financial terms Well, naturally, that is,

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just an example of such a physical game where

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on one side we have two parts,

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on the one hand there is a

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strategic part, yes, that is, we need to understand

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Where to shoot, try to predict How

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these slabs will fall there so that

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accordingly crush all the pigs there

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and not crush the eggs. Well, the point is that

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due to the fact that there is literally a movement one

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pixel to the left to a pixel to the right, it changes the

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flight path and, accordingly, there

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may also be an angle. Yes, it is important at

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what angle this bird flies to these slabs and

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there are different types of

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surface materials, then here it’s like there’s a game

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that is purely for randomness, designed

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because well, you can predict. It’s

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only there, for a certain amount of

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time, how

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your projectile, your bird, or something else,

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here I must say that there is two types of

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such ballistic games in which

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you, as it were, make holes in some ground with explosions

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and in which you

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upset the balance of some blocks,

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for example, yes, from the point of view of physics,

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probably the second type is interesting, but it also

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requires more Rav. Therefore, I think that

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in

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and it was quite difficult to implement such

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games, maybe they didn’t think of it, I don’t know the first

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games from this topic. I saw them on flash,

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they were also in the middle of 2 somewhere, they were made, they were

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unsightly, they were 10 years earlier.

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It seems to me that these are the first attempts to be the

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first to do something like this these were

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the series of Incredible machines No, well, if we are

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talking about these artillery

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games, then there were also games like

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barbu, they were called there about the siege of a castle, so to

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speak, they have not advanced in their

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physical calculations, I don’t know why I have

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n’t seen them in action, I should have also

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organize a siege and shoot at someone else’s

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castle Well, of course, the development of such

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physics engines has always been going on, solutions have

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been around for quite a long time, but few

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people know about them because they were not particularly

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used in games and in general there were such

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specialized applications for

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engineers, these are some applications for

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calculation of mechanical effects, here is the

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resistance of materials, and so on, and

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physics simulator programs here it is worth

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remembering, for example, the program for the

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Macintosh plus interactive physics, which

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appeared in the eighteenth year there, in fact, it was a

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space for laboratory work in

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which all sorts of

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physical experiments could be carried out in order to

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do this somehow, experiments

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could be carried out on a computer. Well,

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in principle, this is correct when you can

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somehow simulate it, you can always have more,

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well, there may be different opportunities, you

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will have to do something to add. Well, this

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program is still popular to this day

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still on sale costs about 300

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dollars By the way, to this day, of course,

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it’s already under Windows I think that it’s not the

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only such program, of course, not

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the only one, just one

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whose description I came across, I

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wish I had cha vows Well, it’s true that they

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interacted with themselves strictly according to the

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rules, that is, there were no so what

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kind of sandbox Yes, and the boards fall into the balls and

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start to go crazy there, everything was

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clearly defined no In fact, this is also the

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first example of such a sandbox

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because the problem could be solved in very

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different ways, not even the same ones

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that were

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provided for, there were quite a lot of how to

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say degrees freedom along which they

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can move, that is, quite

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realistic rebound and so on, it

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was also possible, plus or minus, to

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move some kind of basketball to the side

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by literally a few pixels

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and the result changed dramatically.

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That is, as an example of the kind of physics that

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Well rather not for a real demonstration of

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some kind of physical phenomena Yes, but for

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such simple and advanced it is a very

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demonstrative game and there was quite a lot of it

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and, well, some kind of fiery steam

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things there Yes And the further the series went, the

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more there were some

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interesting things And by the way, recently

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a continuation Well, not a continuation, as it were, a

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remake from the

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original authors. Although there was another

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physics game called czy koto, from the

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point of view of the use of physics in it,

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it was like already Of course, it was at a much

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higher level because there

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an engine was used and even a

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physical accelerator, the possibility of Federal Law X,

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somewhere in the middle, it was 2004, but

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we’ll tell you about that later. Yes, how we,

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as

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objects,

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interact with the force of gravity in

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outer

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space. Of course, we must remember

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everyone’s favorite elite, if we speak

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like we do in at the beginning, so to speak, you tried to

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ask me that it’s not what I

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remember most, but what

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impressed me most. Yes, at one time in this regard,

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it’s probably, of course, the Elite who are

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there simulating the behavior of a

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spaceship right up to the

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space station. I think there’s no

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special physics there no there just ordinary

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Celestial mechanics, that is, Gravity and

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acceleration, how are they dynamics, yes, yes, but there are

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no special interactions there

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Because if you collide with something,

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then, accordingly, everything is death, in this

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sense, no, but this is quite indicative in

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general, as if probably The point is that

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Space has this effect on me. Therefore, I didn’t get the

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whole impression, although

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everything is much more complicated there, if

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you remember the aerodynamics, then so far,

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as we talked about in one of the

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episodes about civil simulators, the

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behavior models still don’t really

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describe

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reality very plausibly. The big question itself because

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this is necessary lyuchi Well, we were talking sm

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who is a chick and say this, the

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situation is with the vert simulation

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as far as I remember But this needs to be

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watched Our episode we

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talked a lot about I don’t know Here else Is it possible to

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add something else Well, you can add

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that yes It all started in the first year when the

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S simulator from the company appeared, which

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then grew into the long-playing

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Microsoft series, there were practically no objects.

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Naturally, somehow it

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was very simple to emulate everything. Well, naturally, over

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the years, all this changed, the simulation

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became more complex, that is,

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calculations appeared there forces How

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pressure interacts Yes, the

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work of internal components on different parts of the aircraft

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Well, what seems to me that

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distinguishes these flight simulators

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is that they can create a very complex

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model

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Yes, because everything else is static

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That is, you have nothing above and

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below there is nothing at most if you take

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some kind of combat simulators, then there

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may be some guns standing below,

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tanks driving, but they drive according to completely

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primitive laws. Yes, and

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enemy planes. If there are, they probably

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fly according to simplified formulas, that is,

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in fact, you have one This is a plane

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that can be very wrongly shown, the

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issue of stimulation is not that there is

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complex control or something It’s difficult to

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describe just Oddly enough, the

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interaction of this

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plane moving with simple air and this is

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still a problem Unsolved and

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basically the airplane's behavior is being tested in these

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turbines, as if experimentally,

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empirically correct,

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and by the way, an equally

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difficult task turned out to be to implement the

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behavior of a car on the

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road

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in the so-called arcade races, even

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pseudo three-dimensional ones, everything was simple there. That is,

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it simply moves to the left to the right along

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the road. Oh well like how probably everyone played

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such games, it was impossible to turn around

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or do something like that Well, there were

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attempts to emulate something in the sense of

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some kind of inertia, some

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small drifts Well, taking into account the capabilities of

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this Well, yes, this is some kind of then simple How to

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say Quite often in

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computer games and not only in game

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programs the solution to some problem is achieved by a

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physical method, not

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only by simplifying calculations But also by

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deception, that is, a person sees what it is Well, it’s

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somehow similar And how is it done to him they don’t

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show it and maybe it doesn’t even matter,

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but it turns out similar. And in reality, there

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may absolutely be some simple

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approximations that have little to do

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with real physics. Well, on the one hand, and

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on the other hand, it’s probably easiest

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to make these some objects the

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same way how this is done in reality

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using the same methods. That is, if you

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give an example, that is, it is unlikely that the

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developers of the first races

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checked that if you go in a

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car, you will accelerate there, well, in a specific

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car, you will accelerate there to 80 kV in

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Cha, press the brakes and if you turn it around,

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how long will it twist you there? They

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did it all very roughly, well, they

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did it so that it was interesting to play.

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Yes, they did it so that it was interesting

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to play, that is, physical

00:18:02

modeling. I think that it began

00:18:05

much later, already in the late nineties. No,

00:18:08

I think physical modeling

00:18:09

began when the first

00:18:11

fully three-dimensional games appeared, this was in the

00:18:14

late eighties. That is, there were

00:18:16

Formula 1 simulators or RDN from Ari

00:18:19

or Win Run

00:18:21

from where. I think they implemented all this

00:18:23

approximately as I say, that

00:18:25

is, a very

00:18:27

conventional platform called polynar

00:18:30

slot machines were very expensive,

00:18:32

which drew fully 3 graphics, that

00:18:35

is, then of course it was new

00:18:37

because at that time the games were basically

00:18:39

all 2D, but here it was full 3D and

00:18:42

fast and without textures, of course

00:18:44

some kind of realistic model of

00:18:46

behavior was needed. Although I think if you run

00:18:48

Ravin, you will see that the cars drive

00:18:51

so well I think that there was no

00:18:53

realistic model of behavior, everyone was

00:18:55

busy trying to make

00:18:59

a picture No, I think that there was a more

00:19:01

advanced simulation Although I’m not sure

00:19:04

about these games, first of all there is

00:19:06

you have four wheels, they need to somehow

00:19:08

interact with the road, that is,

00:19:11

take into account the friction force and so on, there are suspensions, there are

00:19:17

shock absorbers, it seems that these were the first games

00:19:19

where you could really, well, on

00:19:22

the bumps, somehow under and then here are some more

00:19:27

poses - then there

00:19:29

was a Testdrive like this orod and

00:19:32

the like, and these are

00:19:35

off-road racing in the middle, but there are already models there,

00:19:38

I found a list of what is generally

00:19:41

simulated in modern car simulators.

00:19:43

I’ll just tell you a little bit, that is,

00:19:46

firstly, the tires. Well, what can be done

00:19:49

in -first, where does the tire data come from,

00:19:57

or produce the data, that

00:20:00

is, and so on, then there is

00:20:04

wear simulation, there is temperature simulation, which

00:20:08

is also important. Yes, there is dynamic pressure, that

00:20:11

is, the tire can change the pressure and

00:20:13

the behavior of the car will change

00:20:15

quite a lot of parameters, then the tires

00:20:18

can resist on some in places

00:20:20

dirt can get on them, this will have an

00:20:24

impact on behavior,

00:20:27

it will give traces, too, I think that all this is

00:20:30

mainly written by marketers, I don’t think that

00:20:34

this is written by

00:20:35

marketers. Well, there are serious simulators,

00:20:38

just where it all works, which were

00:20:41

sold precisely because it

00:20:43

was all there, yes because they will write that

00:20:46

they have all of this modeled in real life, it’s like The

00:20:48

end result is, well, the

00:20:51

tires are still soft There’s probably

00:20:53

some kind of dirt there Well, depending on what you’re driving,

00:20:57

the pony will accelerate 2% slower,

00:21:01

you know If we’re talking about some kind of a

00:21:02

circuit race like there or Wait a minute on a

00:21:05

track like Formula 1 Well, it’s somehow

00:21:08

uninteresting in my opinion I

00:21:09

don’t understand the circuit race at all yes Well, I just

00:21:11

mentioned the tire yes But there are also

00:21:13

other elements of the car and in the most

00:21:16

serious simulators they try to

00:21:19

imitate almost the entire transmission diagram is there.

00:21:21

Well, of course, it doesn’t

00:21:23

necessarily have to be physically

00:21:24

represented directly, but through

00:21:26

calculation formulas and so on, what else is being done

00:21:29

on the roads, there are different surfaces, yes, if we

00:21:32

can especially race, then yes, this is

00:21:34

important, yes, the car can behave

00:21:37

according to - in different ways they can still be mixed, that

00:21:39

is, there may be both asphalt and

00:21:41

embankments, and there may be snow and ice,

00:21:45

dirt, that is, Do you remember we talked

00:21:47

about races, too, like

00:21:49

simulators, and there were

00:21:57

off-road races in old cars. But one

00:21:59

of the first such races which really

00:22:02

led to this, as it were, made the

00:22:04

game so popular, it was a lie. In

00:22:06

ninety-five, they were there, although this

00:22:09

game was quite arcade-like. But the

00:22:11

simulation of friction with different surfaces

00:22:14

on the road was implemented quite

00:22:17

well there. In addition to this, of course,

00:22:19

there is aerodynamics. That is, what’s up

00:22:21

interaction with the wind How does it

00:22:24

take into account the presence of all sorts of

00:22:26

antiques on the car

00:22:28

and other

00:22:31

air intake

00:22:33

damage also affects some kind of

00:22:35

damage modeling It seems to me

00:22:37

that this is exactly the most

00:22:39

interesting case that they often

00:22:42

try to implement, that is, a little damage to the

00:22:45

car starts to get worse Well go,

00:22:49

yes, or there are some specific ones, maybe

00:22:52

even shortcomings appear.

00:22:56

We were just talking about this matter. I forgot what

00:23:00

this game is called Rali Tfi. Yes, probably

00:23:04

yes. Well, again, you won’t check how it

00:23:09

really should be, so Well, well,

00:23:11

how? you will check if you check

00:23:13

only if you drove this car

00:23:14

specifically Yes if you damage it there

00:23:17

these same ones therefore most likely they do

00:23:19

n’t check anything experimentally

00:23:22

Well why is there data on

00:23:25

crash tests and so on there are

00:23:28

such statistics Well What does crash tests have to do with it Masha

00:23:30

I’m talking about behavior there, if

00:23:35

some

00:23:37

specific part is slightly damaged. It’s hardly

00:23:40

possible to check how it will behave not just by

00:23:42

hitting a wall, but on a fairly

00:23:45

long section of the road. I can’t say that, I

00:23:48

can say that

00:23:50

they study wear at factories details and it’s probably

00:23:53

possible that’s why they can somehow say

00:23:55

they add to wear there or something else,

00:23:58

it’s difficult to say in reality how it’s

00:24:00

done. I think that

00:24:02

some people take the speed there by

00:24:06

some factor and multiply it. I

00:24:09

would do that anyway.

00:24:11

developers They would take it, they would

00:24:13

do it all, well, I don’t know, with this approach

00:24:18

they just need to write that everything there

00:24:20

realistically simulates a

00:24:23

good sieve

00:24:26

in this case, and most likely the

00:24:30

developers No, they are, I think they’re not

00:24:34

being cunning, but how come they don’t go into

00:24:37

detail like they do what

00:24:38

is implemented there and to what extent it

00:24:41

corresponds to physical laws and is

00:24:44

done there from the first

00:24:47

principles of what first principles? Well, the

00:24:50

first principles are simply

00:24:52

Newton’s laws and not the first principle, this is

00:24:55

based on

00:24:57

friction data taken from

00:25:00

tire manufacturers, speeds and

00:25:04

friction speeds. No, friction can be set

00:25:06

probably yes No The point is that there are

00:25:08

simulators that are not only designed

00:25:10

for a large number of cars, or

00:25:12

for modifications, or for online

00:25:15

competitions and simulators that are

00:25:17

made specifically to

00:25:18

realistically display the behavior of a

00:25:21

car, we have such a series and

00:25:25

Racing as

00:25:30

simple as we don’t know what

00:25:32

kind of equations are given, we can’t

00:25:34

talk about how

00:25:35

plausible it is, what initial conditions are

00:25:38

what parameters are parameters most likely

00:25:40

really Well, they are adjusted to Real

00:25:43

real data and there is nothing wrong with that,

00:25:46

well, now if we continue the topic of

00:25:50

mechanics you can talk

00:25:56

These are

00:25:58

those Namely, just like now in all

00:26:02

games all the characters all all the people can

00:26:07

somehow interact with each other

00:26:11

so that you can just take things

00:26:13

there somehow throw them on top

00:26:16

of each other somehow move through them

00:26:18

yes Well here is one of the key

00:26:21

games that in many ways gave rise to

00:26:23

what we have in terms of

00:26:26

physics, sweat world or Jurassic Park

00:26:30

2, in fact, the game was planned to be very

00:26:34

innovative and very full of

00:26:36

such new ideas, development began

00:26:39

somewhere in the PM day also unfortunately,

00:26:42

due to the fact that it had to be timed to coincide with the

00:26:44

release of the film after some time and not be

00:26:47

released, many of the ideas had to be

00:26:49

cut due to budget time limits,

00:26:56

slam the calculations, it was still difficult

00:26:59

to do the computer at that time,

00:27:01

however, there was still the embodiment

00:27:02

of many ideas, for example, inverse

00:27:05

kinematics puppet physics, so-

00:27:07

called reg dol, again in this

00:27:10

game we separately control the hand of the main

00:27:12

character. That is, as if in shooters, we just

00:27:14

shoot. But here we can move the

00:27:16

mouse and kind of control the hand, that is,

00:27:19

bend it, turn it, take objects

00:27:21

into it, imagine this is used

00:27:23

not only for shooting but also for solving

00:27:26

some problems because As you know,

00:27:28

boxes had to be moved in different

00:27:30

games Yes in Saban, but so that this is

00:27:32

done somehow realistically from the point of

00:27:34

view of the three-dimensional landscape environment,

00:27:37

this is before that Well, I I don’t even know where it

00:27:39

was, if it was something at all.

00:27:42

It seems to me that it was only in the game, but the

00:27:44

year came out in deno PTO, too, and deno PTO. Yes,

00:27:47

Ipa, too, in denovo, that is, in

00:27:50

fact, there was nothing here, basically out of place when

00:27:56

cutting off only in order to

00:27:58

overcome some obstacles,

00:28:00

climb somewhere or, on the contrary,

00:28:02

push them in order to clear

00:28:04

the way for oneself and at that moment It was simply

00:28:07

unique because then, well, you

00:28:09

could make obstacles your own, you could shoot them, destroy them,

00:28:13

blow them up, and so on, and they scattered

00:28:15

according to scripts or some

00:28:17

predetermined formulas, here there was also

00:28:20

another feature: it’s a relatively open

00:28:22

world, of course divided into levels in a

00:28:24

global sense, but in the NE at that time the

00:28:28

corridor with shooters is impressive and now there

00:28:32

was an attempt to implement some kind of

00:28:34

artificial intelligence of dinosaurs but to

00:28:36

unfortunately, they also cut it and in the end

00:28:38

the result, of course, did not please the critics then.

00:28:40

Well, as in the first things in the

00:28:43

legs. There are a lot of things that are not ideal; the boxes were poorly placed on top of

00:28:45

each other and

00:28:47

slid, that is, the friction between them was poorly

00:28:49

developed; there are limits on the size of the

00:28:52

boxes with which the

00:28:54

physics engine of the game managed to cope, they had to

00:28:56

be about half to about a meter in

00:28:59

size, otherwise some kind of

00:29:02

freak show would start there, that is, the boxes would start

00:29:04

dancing on top of each other, and slide off on top of each other. And in

00:29:06

general, it was difficult to build some kind of

00:29:08

pyramids and similar things, however

00:29:11

less uh, this was the first game and

00:29:14

If someone wants to see how it

00:29:16

was, where does physics come from in

00:29:18

3D games in general, it’s worth paying attention

00:29:20

to no Yes, but in the future, uh,

00:29:24

this idea was very active in

00:29:28

and already at the beginning of the thousandth, it

00:29:31

was so in demand that

00:29:32

separate physics engines appeared that

00:29:33

calculated the interaction of the mechanics of a

00:29:38

deformable

00:29:40

solid Yes, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves, the

00:29:43

time of our today’s episode has

00:29:44

come to an end about physics engines and

00:29:48

other types of physical simulation in

00:29:50

games, we will tell you next time

00:29:53

Mouse lived with you, bye bye next

00:29:56

meetings

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