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tsahal glad Tim successes yaki de monster at
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once on the battle clean up chi to bshu
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part Hamas Putin znovu povnyu z
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terrorista ta bojovimi that scho Chim not VRZ te scho ko na
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rhetoricor yogo poki scho rosiisko poki scho
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feder about tse ne lki we are talking about
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just call me right now Irina knot with
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me ts zilber is an Israeli journalist and
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also the chief editor of lu RAO swarm for the sake of
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Slava
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adorned the glory of the head of the
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administration of one of the ST Dagestan know
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for the fate of the masses theft at the
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airport Makhachka podov otsey the head of
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the Republic Sergei Melikov chi ochka take
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shennya or so you see it It’s just
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that they won’t be showing off and they started screaming and started
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talking about the Anti-Jewish
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pogroms in which Putin is throwing away the
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spider and the hand from the received tripod and the
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Ukrainian
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special services. I am absolutely sure that he
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was sure that the Jewish pogroms in
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Russia are just a matter of time that
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they are in at some point they will begin, but the
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events in Gaza They of course were
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the trigger, I don’t even know what played a more
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role: social networks or Islam or
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mosques or perhaps
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inciting them, but you know, I thought so
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until I learned one very
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interesting detail. Let’s
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analyze However,
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the airport in Makhachkala is not located in the
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city. Well, as usual, airports are not
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located right in the city. It’s very
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inconvenient; it’s noise; to get to this airport you have to
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go by car or by bus for about 40 minutes,
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and now imagine that these
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people from Makhachkala from the surrounding
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villages to some- that moment they find themselves
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right there at this
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airport. That is, it couldn’t have happened
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spontaneously, suck. I understand that they would
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have gathered there in some square in the
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city and some other
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people who happened to be passing would have come running to them
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and something like this would have happened action, but
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this is really a very serious
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big action. Besides, these were 3,000
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young men, there were no women. Well,
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as you understand, in the North Caucasus,
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in general, women do
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not take part in any public life there.
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But it doesn’t matter, this is 3 thousand 1500 Forgive the
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young
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men who suddenly find themselves at the
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Makhachkala airport, but this could not have
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happened spontaneously. In my opinion,
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in my opinion, this suggests that this
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was arranged or by the local authorities. Well,
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because, well, let’s understand that there is no civil society in Russia;
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this or the local authorities,
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who apparently misread the
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signal Or maybe they correctly read the signals
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from the Kremlin, or it was sanctioned
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from above, maybe the Krem, maybe the FSB I don’t
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know that anymore We can develop
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the theory further, but I think so
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Well, first of all, I’m glad that no one
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died as a result, they were just
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so stupid that they
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couldn’t even find anyone They just didn’t know what
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Jews looked like What Jews look like They
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probably Jews had never seen this in their lives
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Well, if they saw it, they didn’t know that
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they were Jews, they apparently imagined
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Hasidim with sidelocks who were supposed to
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stand out like that in the general public there,
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indeed, in this Telegram channel in
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which they were all
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organized, video recordings of
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some dancing Hasidim appeared and they wrote
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that these Hasidim came to Makhachkala,
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refugees from Israel in order to
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settle there and in Dagestan, but
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apparently they were looking for such Jews
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because in this there were Israeli citizens on the plane.
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About 15 people. This is the data
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that we had published here in Israel
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and they could not
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identify them, thank God. No one
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died, thank God. Nothing happened to anyone,
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but believe me that this is a far-
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reaching phenomenon, this is a precedent, first
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of all, and it is clear that it will be
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primarily non-Jews who will suffer from it
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because there are simply no Jews there physically
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there uh some Ravin in Dagestan
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reported about some 400 families Well I don’t
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know If we are talking about 00 families then they
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will be able to quickly fly away to evacuate there
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Israel or maybe some other places,
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but you know what I
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was thinking about If a civil war breaks out,
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if the Caucasus begins to collapse And this is
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quite a likely scenario today
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because, well, there is no Russia after Putin
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in its current format Yes, without
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democratization
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without certain political processes
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Well, Putin will cease to
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exist anyway, sooner or later the
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collapse of the Caucasus will begin and I have no
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doubt that this will be turned against
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Russians, Russians will begin to kill in the
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North Caucasus, this very crowd
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that was so enthusiastically looking for
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Jews, so there will be refugees from the North
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Caucasus to the European part of Russia we
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have seen this more than once since the
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beginning of the collapse of the Soviet Union and even
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before that it was Armenian refugees, it was
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Azerbaijani refugees, it was Meskhetian Turks, it
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was possible to recall many such
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situations when there were actually pogroms and the
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Russian Empire, which invented
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this term in general, is understand the pogrom,
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you know what is there in the English language in
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Hebrew there is this word pogrom, just
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like that, a pogrom is something that was invented
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in the Russian Empire with the Black Son Tsar,
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these ended with the Jews, these pogroms
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ultimately led to a civil
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war in which tens of
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millions of people died. and political scientists, some
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political scientists believe that this Civil
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War in Russia has not yet ended,
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and all that we see today are its
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consequences, which is why the Jewish
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pogroms began with the Jews from the Jews but
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never ended with the Jews Yes,
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because the Jews ended should
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should should have it was started by someone
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else, but in any case, I don’t believe
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that in repressive Russia that such an action
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could have happened by itself. I think that in
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any case, yes, well, the whole history of these
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pogroms and the times of the Holocaust and the times of
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the Civil War of the times of Tsarist Russia is
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always the pogromists always had a sense of
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impunity. That is, the
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authorities gave them either vague or direct
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guarantees that they would get away with it, they won’t do
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anything for it, go kill and rob,
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nothing will happen to you for it. And I think that
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this also took place, so I
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think that After all, there are
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some authorities behind this, maybe local,
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maybe higher authorities in Moscow, the
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Kremlin. Well, of course in this
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situation, who did the Kremlin blame? Well, of
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course Ukraine, of course Ukraine
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Ukraine is generally some kind of superpower in
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the field of organizing
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all sorts of
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interesting things
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we didn’t know for an hour znamo otse in the
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Russian Federation naskilki sweat in us
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special services stink zsno sweat Ale te scho m
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attributed to the Kremlin is simple and PCH flows of
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Riva and pogroms in Khasavyurt and in Nalchik
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tezh aktsi vlashtovuvati Jewish All of us
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All of us and Cherkessk and Nalchik and
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Khasavyurt I think that it will still be, but
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you know what I remember a couple of years ago
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there was a story there in Russia there is there, I do
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n’t know what it is, in my opinion it’s a village
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called Chemodanovka Yes, the funny
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name is the village of Chemodanovka and there
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was a massive fight between the locals
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between the Russians and the Roma, someone from the
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camp did not treat a
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local girl so civilly, in general, it was some kind of
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completely everyday conflict, as
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a result a mass fight broke out,
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which also led to some kind of
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disorder there, in my opinion, there were dead and
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something like that it turned out that it gained
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a lot of publicity even then, it
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was impossible to keep everything secret like now and the
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governor arrived there with
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some very serious delay and I
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don’t remember what kind of province it was, I don’t remember what this
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governor’s name was,
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but I remember a completely idiotic face
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absolutely so clinical and the first
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thing he said, we’ve been noticing for a long time that the
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CIA is muddying the waters here. That is, the
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CIA did it, you know, in
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a suitcase. Yes, yes, I just got great
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pleasure that the CIA simply has
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nothing else to do. There is no more ISIS
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or alcades. Yes, that’s just to climb into the
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suitcases
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so that this is approximately the same logic in the
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Kremlin, yes.
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This has nothing to do with their training manual,
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just in the sacristy and Vlada’s sacristy and in the sacristy of
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Roki, however, they are still calling everything, and
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Kadirov is starting to create a rose for the process of yogo
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about those who are required as soon as possible so
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antiv AK chi screamed Yas protest mood
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seems Well, not vikonuye Lyudin’s order is required
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three times in three quarters so as not to
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see this order from Russia’s opoy
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politics dekhto kazhe scho VN zzv scho demand get
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ready to go down on the right yakscho VN vchu
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that VN will be we are in front of fighting for our
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Vlas interests for the Vladi crossing on the
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Caucasus and Putin leaving in such a
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situation
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Kadyrov is behaving very interestingly well,
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first of all, all these Chechen publics I
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watched the review There’s just horror going on there,
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there’s just real Nazi
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propaganda going on but Kadyrov himself is not he
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says the word Jews, he says
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Zionists, that is, Muslims must
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fight the
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Zionists, he doesn’t use
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the word Jews, and moreover, he is now
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trying to portray himself as some kind of
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defender of everyone, you know, the Turkish
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Sultan has one of his titles,
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he had many different titles one of
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his titles was the patron of the peoples of the
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book, that is, Jews and Christians, that is, the
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Turkish Sultan was the patron
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until the Turkish Sultan of Christians in
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Europe in Asia Minor There and so on, but
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he had the title of patron and protector of
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all the peoples of the book, which means Jews and
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Christians, respectively Well, approximately,
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Kadyrov apparently wants for himself such a title as the
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main defender of Jews, but he is very
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active Lately he has been flirting with
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Islamists and you know, I have a theory
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why he is doing this. I don’t know, it’s
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just my theory, my constructions are
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Kadyrov’s own, the traitor Kadyrov has switched
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sides enemy when Islam fought against
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Russia Yes, all these sheikhs masu There and
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so on, they went to the side of the enemy And he understands this.
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He constantly
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has this in his head and that’s why
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he’s trying to roar all this, he’s trying to tell it
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all off now he’s
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flirting with so much radical Islam. Well,
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firstly, he led a shady Islam in
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Chechnya, Sharia law, and secondly,
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he positions himself as such a
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main fighter, he has long allowed
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himself to do so, despite the fact that he himself, in more
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herbivorous times, visited Israel. Here in
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our country Abu Ghoshe, we have a
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Circassian
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village that has existed for I don’t know
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more than 100 years, it probably existed
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even when the Circassians fled the Caucasus from
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Russian pogroms When the Russian
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army conquered the Caucasus So they fled to
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Turkey and the Turks settled them throughout the
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Ottoman Empire, including here and
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so he came to this au. They
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hugged and kissed and they then
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said that these Circassians in Abu Goshi are
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real Chechens, more real
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than those Chechens who live in Chechnya
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itself. In general, they
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preserved some traditions and customs there, and Kadyrov even
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built a mosque here Well, but
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now he is positioning himself as such an
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enemy, a fighter against Zionism for the liberation of
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Aksa. Yes, he simply cannot eat. And he wants to
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liberate Aksu, but I think that he is
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just trying to reformat his
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own past in this way and
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win the sympathy of those very Islamists
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who will eventually deal with him anyway
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because no one there
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forgets anything or will forget anything and so
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on, but today, of course,
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Kadyrov considers Dagestan his own
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patrimony, as it was, in general, always Yes,
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during the first Chechen and second
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Chechen Kadyrov will be there now Kadyrov will
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now be handing out all sorts of goodies, he
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will be giving guarantees to the Jews, he will be there to
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conscript, maybe he will even bring in his own
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units somewhere
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because, well, if you consider that
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Zolotov is now transferring to Kadyrov all
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the armored vehicles, all the weapons that
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remained from the Wagnerites, then this is also
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something this means that Kadyrov
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in the Caucasus receives a kind of carte blanche from the
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authorities because it may be. Perhaps the
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Kremlin simply doesn’t have the heart to
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deal with the Caucasus now
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because there is a war in Ukraine. Because the
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crisis in the
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Middle East needs to be controlled. Well, they say that they are
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now in Some of their additional units are being transferred to Syria.
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Well,
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thank God. The fewer of them left in
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Ukraine, the better. That’s why it
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seems to me that Kadyrov will be given such
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carte blanche now in the North Caucasus to
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restore order there, and by the way, it must be
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said that they also hate Kadyrov there,
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especially in the neighboring In Ingushetia, remember there
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were even
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riots there when Kadyrov decided to
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redraw the borders there and annex a piece of Ingushetia
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to Chechnya? Well, it’s generally
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difficult to draw any borders there.
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Once upon a time in the Soviet Union it was
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Chechen Ingushetia Yes, the
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Soviet Union united two hostile peoples together yes
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Well, that’s what it is Soviet politics dividing
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power, but that's another story As
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they say, let's not delve into this anymore. It
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seems to me that Kadyrov received
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carte blanche throughout the entire North Caucasus. Yak
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you think Yaka perspective chi mi will be
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Yes bachiti sche znovu axis so Anti
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Jewish disharmony perhaps already the
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stage has come when the blizzard has sunk into such a crap
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in them Nate regions of the Russian
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federation Ale Tse will already be
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antis protest Yak before the speeches write about the Tse and the
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military corks of the Russian Federation stink already after all so
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can WB analysts to the Institute of Vivchennya in the pro tse
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say that y sa there middle RZ RH
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honey in cream seems to stink zane peace turbonovaniya
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Well, yes, I already said about this that
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Jewish pogroms begin with Jews,
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but they begin with Jews, but they do
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n’t end with Jews. Of course,
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this has a great explosive
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potential, do they understand this in the Kremlin? Well,
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they probably do but considering that when
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Prigozhin went to Moscow there was no
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one there, no one was at home and he could have
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gotten there if his nerves had not simply given up,
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he listened to Lukashenko and
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someone else there and as a result paid for it with his
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life for his gullibility or for
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my cowardice so that I didn’t have the courage
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to get to the end. But in the situation with the
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Makhachkala airport, we also saw that there
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was no one there, the crowd seized the
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airport, robbed duty-free and there was no one there, the
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cops stood on the sidelines and did
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n’t really intend to risk their skin there there
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was no one either. And what is
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the guarantee that this will not lead? You remember
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that in Dagestan, by the way, there were strong
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protests against the mobilization there, even they
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canceled the mobilization, in the end they
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began to take people from other
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regions in Dagestan, but yes, this is such an explosive
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region and we see that in a critical
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situation The Kremlin doesn’t control anything there.
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Yes, the
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Russian Guard had to be brought in from somewhere in other regions,
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most likely because there
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was no one there on the ground. Just like during
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Prigozhin’s march on Moscow, so I think yes, I
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think that they are now seriously
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concerned about this. Besides, well the image of a
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country where Jewish pogroms began again,
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they also don’t
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need it at all now, and they continue this
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line that Putin is not an anti-Semite and so on,
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but they are
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persecuting Israel, that Israel
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is committing war crimes there in gas Yes,
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Solovyov, who is always like the Great
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Jew and Great means this is a speech on
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behalf of the Jewish people and victims of
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the Holocaust, yes, and saying that before the war
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you remember to count on that VN for
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Israel Well, VN Kudi is not a problem Well, I
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think that you are nihto and not Radium bi buv
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Israeli Minister of Defense Galan declaring the
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army Israel's defense was able to carry out
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its ground operations in the Gazi and VN sector
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just after the enemy of the Israeli army
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Yaka reached even more important lei about the
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Yaki VN with say that we need a rose
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by the camp on the 1st leaf fall When we record Tsyu
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Rozmova Well, you know, you don’t you will praise No
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one will praise Yes, apparently with this
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I will not talk about outstanding
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achievements Let’s still not
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beat such big military drums, but
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so far it seems like everything is going
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well, we have had our first losses
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Unfortunately, 15 people have already been officially
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published In general, in Israel it is
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almost impossible to hide losses and
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15 people, at the moment I don’t
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know, I’m there. I have
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n’t watched the news for the last half hour for the last hour. Yes, but
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at the moment when we
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write this down, we have 15 people, including
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those who died in one
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armored personnel carrier.
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which received a direct hit from a missile
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and for some reason it didn’t work. We have a
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windbreaker system that protects
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armored vehicles from missiles. For some reason,
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either it didn’t work or
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it was an armored personnel carrier without this
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system. It’s generally unclear. I think they
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will find out because that nine
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people in one armored personnel carrier
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die is generally a very serious emergency
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But if you don’t take this episode, if you don’t
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take
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the dead, then in general the armed forces are developing
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well Israel is moving very, very
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slowly
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We can carefully say that the
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Gaza Strip is not the Gaza Strip but a Gaza city
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already taken into a ring by the gas, divided into two
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parts, there is such a Well, how can I say this is a
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stream called Wadi stream
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which In winter when it rains it
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turns into a real
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full-flowing river and in the summer it dries up and
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there’s just such a big ravine and
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this big ravine it’s
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called Wadi gas of Wadi Aza, it
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divides the sector into two parts into
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northern and southern, this ravine is
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actually cut off, there is no
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communication between the northern and southern parts of
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Gaza, now all these tunnels are being cleared
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in every house, there may be
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mining in every house, there may be
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some ambushes traps therefore
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they move there extremely slowly looking for
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tunnels where they are found there in many
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houses There are exits from these tunnels
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where these tunnels are found collapse or
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there I don’t know with something they fill with
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foam with sea water I don’t know Israel
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has a lot of all sorts of technologies Well, so far they have
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n’t told us exactly about this, but the tunnels are
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gradually collapsing and the main thing is that there is a hunt
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for generators because these tunnels of
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all the underground ones have the weakest point
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- this is the ventilation system, if there are no
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generators there will be no ventilation and these
00:21:01
tunnels will simply turn into a
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mass grave Israel is shooting off
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fans, fans, I say
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ventilation outlets, these are the exits Israel
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is shooting off generators and diesel fuel reserves
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because all these generators run
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on diesel fuel, they don’t
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supply electricity and gas, and today there is no electricity
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without the Internet. So, if you destroy the
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diesel fuel reserves, then the time here is
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rude because Every generator
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is working and the diesel fuel is running out. Israel does
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not launch new fuel reserves there. I
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assume that they
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have accumulated it somewhere, but as it all
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works constantly and
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eats diesel fuel, and as Israel
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destroys all this, their situation
00:21:49
will get worse. and worse, well, you know how
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it happens, the transition of quantitative
00:21:53
changes into qualitative ones. Then it will turn out
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like this and immediately there you will
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suffocate terrorists in these tunnels. Or they
00:22:00
will climb up to get some air and
00:22:03
come under fire from Israeli aviation and
00:22:07
ground forces. Therefore, I think that everything
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is going well
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and we will hope that it will
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continue like this as long as there is time, yes,
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no one is standing a stopwatch over Israel. It’s not
00:22:22
quiet. It’s not screaming urgently, save the
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civilian population. I mean our
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allies. I don’t mean Bolivia
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or the countries that are
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always automatically in the UN General Assembly.
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they vote for any pro-Palestinian
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resolution simply based on the principle of
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Muslim Solidarity Yes, a
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wonderful principle for the UN of the 21st century Yes,
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no matter what terrorists do, since they are
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Muslims, Muslim countries
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automatically support them, that is, there is no such thing
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as Let's figure it out Let's
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see Let's try
00:22:56
to look at this about Tino no no
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automatically and everyone perceives this
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completely normally, including in
00:23:02
the West and they say Well, well, what do you
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want? Well, Muslim countries Of course
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they are for their own, But for some reason
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European countries never do that.
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Yes, we don’t see such a thing. and they are
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Christians. So we are for Christians, there is no
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such thing; they are trying to somehow objectively
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consider the situation to understand what violates
00:23:19
international norms, what does not violate
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international norms, and then there is
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such an automatic voting. Therefore,
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Israel has long been accustomed to this. So,
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if you
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noticed, there was a wonderful interview on
00:23:36
TV channel Rus to in Arabic Where
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Abu Marzuk came to the studio, one of
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the leaders of Hamas, such a Bloody terrorist
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with blood on his hands, when they were in
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Moscow, Abu Marzuk was part of the delegation
00:23:50
and so he came to give an interview
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and he said, well, I quote very close to the
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text he said the following, we are often
00:24:00
asked a question: You dug 500 km of
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tunnels for gas and a real metro A and
00:24:08
didn’t build a single bomb shelter for
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civilians for the civilian population Well, it’s
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really logical Yes, if you
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built such underground fortifications
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Why didn’t you build bomb shelters that
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Israel is starting to bomb the hoba, everyone left,
00:24:22
everyone went down from their own house,
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they have exits to these underground
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tunnels as a refuge and no one dies. He
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said what kind of nonsense is it, why should we
00:24:32
We should take care of them, we
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should take care of them Israel and the UN That's who
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should take care of them. They are
00:24:40
practically all of us on the list of refugees,
00:24:42
so the UN should protect them. And we
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bear no responsibility for them; we
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dug tunnels for ourselves for our soldiers
00:24:49
and for our weapons. They have nothing to do with us at all, that
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is, there is, in fact, he
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gave up, he surrendered the headquarters, he surrendered the base. Yes, Hamas
00:25:00
is interested in there being a lot of
00:25:02
casualties among the civilian population, because
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then the Cry rises from Muslim
00:25:07
countries, all these Kadyrovs and all these
00:25:10
leftists, all these Amnesty International
00:25:12
raise a wild Cry to the whole world and in the
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end In the end, politicians are starting to call
00:25:17
Jerusalem to say Well, listen, we’re
00:25:19
already tired of listening to this Let’s measure it
00:25:21
next time Then
00:25:22
we’ll deal with them somehow Leave them
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alone Well, just let them stop
00:25:27
their howling and this is what happens every time
00:25:30
and that’s why Hamas does it This is why, on the contrary, it is
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in the interests of Hamas
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that there are no bomb shelters and
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Hamas built its main bunker,
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its general headquarters. It is under the
00:25:43
hospital in Gaza that this Shifa hospital
00:25:46
is known to everyone and Hamas has not
00:25:48
hidden it for a long time, under the hospital is the
00:25:50
main bunker the main bunker is located
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under the count of the living people from the
00:25:55
medical staff from the sick from everyone who
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is in the hospital at this moment
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so Well, this is the real person in
00:26:02
all the civilian casualties in the
00:26:04
Gaza Strip, only Hamas is to blame and
00:26:06
Israel today receives
00:26:10
behind the scenes But this, of course, is leaking
00:26:12
to the press full support from normal
00:26:15
Arab countries they say Well, only
00:26:17
if you go to the end destroy
00:26:19
Hamas And we will support you they say Well
00:26:22
naturally it won’t be official I
00:26:24
can’t imagine that it is Islamic to
00:26:28
support Israel but they say
00:26:30
just go to the end If you
00:26:32
want halfway again we
00:26:34
don’t need to stop and worry about that, we’re definitely
00:26:37
not with you then. But if you’re going to
00:26:39
the end and the
00:26:51
Saudi order Yes, that
00:26:53
’s why the situation here the situation here
00:26:57
must be understood absolutely unambiguously and the
00:27:01
casualties among the civilian
00:27:03
population. Of course there are them. Of
00:27:07
course they’re exaggerating 10 times, of course.
00:27:09
there are, and Israel is doing everything to ensure that they don’t
00:27:12
exist, but you have to think about what you need to
00:27:16
want for these to be the last
00:27:18
victims and for this to be the final
00:27:19
chord in the existence of Hamas, after which
00:27:24
some
00:27:26
more or less peaceful norm of life will be built there The
00:27:28
new normal We still don’t
00:27:31
understand on what exact principle it
00:27:33
will be based, but the fact is that there
00:27:35
shouldn’t be Hamas there. This is absolutely for sure
00:27:38
and you know what other interesting
00:27:40
news was in the American Congress, they are
00:27:42
starting to promote the bill,
00:27:45
promising that it will come into force by the end of this year.
00:27:47
that to carry out against
00:27:50
Hamas all the same restrictions that
00:27:53
were introduced against al-Qaeda in the
00:27:57
aftermath of September 11 after the terrorist attack. This
00:28:00
means that any organization, any
00:28:04
country that will maintain
00:28:05
any ties with Hamas falls under
00:28:08
American sanctions. That is, communication with
00:28:10
Hamas is not it will only be toxic It
00:28:13
will still be dangerous from an economic point of
00:28:15
view and where will these Cockroaches run then
00:28:19
I don’t know they are based there today in a
00:28:21
boat but it’s unlikely the boat Where is the
00:28:24
largest American military base in the
00:28:26
Middle East will want to
00:28:28
get involved with this and want to risk that they will
00:28:31
fall under American sanctions Yes, well, I
00:28:33
don’t know where they will hide then,
00:28:35
it’s clear
00:28:36
that Exactly exactly exactly how I didn’t think
00:28:40
how I didn’t think didn’t notice such a
00:28:42
wonderful loophole Well yes Well then I
00:28:44
wish Russia would get them all yes
00:28:48
yes Hai and the stench is definitely not nice stink
00:28:51
to Moscow to go looking for and Vlad there too
00:28:55
I want so much PZR not to worry about getting the state of
00:28:58
America I want to grow the
00:29:01
peacekeeping masses Well, about the whole thing,
00:29:03
the polities behind the words senator tse lishe
00:29:06
before rozmovi bli dm
00:29:08
to solidify in part the rich national
00:29:11
coalition, what can we talk about the prospect of
00:29:13
dismantling such creative forces naskilki stench
00:29:16
potr naskilki tse mozhvogo Yakvi
00:29:19
think what do we care about tse if we are
00:29:22
talking about some kind of UN forces then it
00:29:24
will not work we see EO blue helmets
00:29:28
on the border of Israel and Lebanon they are there even without
00:29:31
weapons they have a mandate
00:29:33
that is not received from the UN it says
00:29:35
that they should not be unarmed, they are not
00:29:37
armed, and you understand that
00:29:40
these blue helmets are there purely
00:29:43
symbolically and I don’t know who is there.
00:29:46
What are they protecting from at the UN? I do
00:29:48
n’t believe in the effectiveness of the UN and its structure
00:29:50
at all Can I add one remark
00:29:53
to the Vibachta one river 2 leaf fall Koli
00:29:55
viide our Rozmova Pochinae go va at the
00:29:57
forum are happy UN
00:30:00
Iran yes yes but this is yes this is one of the
00:30:04
forums As I understand it, some kind of
00:30:06
single meeting Yes, but I read
00:30:09
today one
00:30:16
Bahraini wrote Yes this is not a joke This is
00:30:20
really true, this is what we hear: a
00:30:22
country that supports terror in the
00:30:24
whole world, which has introduced the state of Israel into the constitution,
00:30:27
now
00:30:28
heads the council for will head,
00:30:31
yes, the human rights council, this is
00:30:33
really just fantastic, yes, that
00:30:36
is, they break through the bottom every time I even I
00:30:39
have no doubt that at this meeting of
00:30:41
this social forum the
00:30:45
only discussion will be Hatred of
00:30:47
Israel and in relation to the UN
00:30:51
Human Rights Council, we have had no illusions for a long time
00:30:54
and they are engaged in all their activities
00:30:58
only to condemn Israel,
00:31:00
everything is fine with Syria, everything is fine with North Korea
00:31:03
let's get a person from Eritrea
00:31:05
together with others there in Somalia Yes, but they are
00:31:07
only engaged in endlessly
00:31:09
pouring from empty to empty and
00:31:12
upholding the just aspirations of the
00:31:13
Palestinian people and condemning the
00:31:15
Israeli occupation, this is, in
00:31:17
my opinion, the only purpose of the existence of this
00:31:19
completely useless structure,
00:31:23
but Yes, we were talking about gas
00:31:28
really Americans now they
00:31:29
are discussing different scenarios they are discussing
00:31:31
That is, this does not mean that they
00:31:33
are going to I don’t think that the Americans
00:31:35
want to be in gas Yes, after
00:31:38
they fled from Afghanistan to get into
00:31:40
gas which Well, I don’t know, maybe
00:31:42
even more dangerous today than Afghanistan I don’t
00:31:44
think that they they want But indeed,
00:31:48
today in the Israeli media
00:31:50
information was published that Netanya
00:31:53
ordered and ordered our
00:31:57
national security department to begin
00:31:59
working on different scenarios. What will happen the
00:32:01
next day because, well, we still
00:32:04
have no idea what to do with it and how to
00:32:06
digest this gas later. Or it
00:32:08
will be an occupation gas and how it
00:32:12
was In the eighties and early nineties,
00:32:16
Israel will place its military
00:32:18
bases there, patrol, improve the
00:32:22
lives of the civilian population,
00:32:24
sewerage, traffic rules,
00:32:27
and so on for Israel. This is a very
00:32:29
undesirable scenario and it is very
00:32:31
unpopular, less than a
00:32:34
third according to sociology, less than a third of
00:32:36
Israelis support a return to
00:32:38
Gaza and re-occupation of gases, the second scenario
00:32:42
is some kind of external control.
00:32:44
Well, again, I’m not talking about the UN. But if the
00:32:47
Americans manage to create some kind of
00:32:49
coalition that will include not
00:32:51
only America and the Europeans, but also, say,
00:32:54
the League of Arab States, Arab countries
00:32:57
that will place their e their
00:33:00
military, specifically Arabic-speaking military, then
00:33:03
perhaps it will be effective,
00:33:06
but still, let’s say it will be
00:33:08
security control so that there are no new attacks
00:33:11
by terrorists, but you still need to think about how to
00:33:14
organize life there, you
00:33:16
still need to create some kind of power,
00:33:18
or it will be some kind of then the government of a
00:33:20
technocrat, external control, let’s say so,
00:33:23
or they will prepare gas for the
00:33:27
brothers in the Palestinian Authority in
00:33:29
Judea Samaria, but today the
00:33:32
Palestinian Authority is very weak That
00:33:34
is, this will require its complete restart
00:33:37
Abu Mazan should finally
00:33:40
retire, he is already 90, how long can he sit
00:33:44
at this point he is already completely anemic,
00:33:47
completely without energy and without any
00:33:50
prospects, there is no support for him
00:33:52
already 20 of any
00:33:54
of them,
00:33:58
if we reformat the entire Palestinian
00:34:00
autonomy on new principles with new
00:34:02
people, then
00:34:04
perhaps this is also one of the possible
00:34:07
scenarios to restart
00:34:09
Palestinian control of gas like this Well, or
00:34:12
another scenario is to find such a
00:34:15
Kadyrov who will create there such a
00:34:18
sultanate, such an Emirate, an absolute
00:34:21
monarchy which, with the help of his
00:34:23
militants,
00:34:25
will gain independence as an
00:34:29
independent state or will he
00:34:31
exist as some kind of
00:34:33
enclave of the Palestinian Authority, but this is
00:34:35
also one of scenarios Here again now
00:34:38
we remember the name of Mohammed Dakhla, he
00:34:41
was a very good Palestinian politician
00:34:44
from Fatah, who once enjoyed
00:34:47
great popularity in Gaza, when Hamas
00:34:50
seized power, his people were simply
00:34:51
physically killed and even entire
00:34:55
family clans that supported him were slaughtered,
00:34:57
but he was a man very sober, not
00:35:00
bloodthirsty, he always tried
00:35:03
to negotiate, including with Israel,
00:35:05
he had good relations with Israel,
00:35:08
he had been living on a boat for many years
00:35:10
because Auman also did not tolerate him, and
00:35:13
despite the fact that he was also from Fatah,
00:35:15
Auman saw him as a very serious
00:35:17
political competitor Therefore, he
00:35:19
had to flee simply from physical
00:35:21
violence. But today his name
00:35:23
comes up again. As far as I understand, there are some
00:35:27
preliminary negotiations with him, but this is also one
00:35:29
of the options for a possible development of events,
00:35:32
but again, no one knows anything yet,
00:35:35
this is all still to be
00:35:37
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