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analyst, columnist for the emidia
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group, Russia Today
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Rostislav Ishchenko Rostislav is from a
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former diplomat, he worked in the
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administration of one of the previous
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presidents of Ukraine Rostislav
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is now in Russia and is engaged in extensive
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activities,
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comments and writes articles, he is
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invited to various programs and he
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comments on the situation in Ukraine the
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geopolitical situation in the world So
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this is my great
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my great privilege to provide you with
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Rostislava Ishchenko today
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Rostislav hello Good afternoon glad
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to see Thank you also
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please comment Rostislav
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What happened in Ukraine in 2014
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American audience we have an
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information hunger our media has been lying to us
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already over all these years, but
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they say that Putin, the Russian aggressor, is to blame for everything
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and that the Maidan revolution in
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1914 was all Putin.
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He created it all. How do you comment How
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the war happened in Ukraine and what
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happened in 1414 when the
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coup d’etat took place, who is
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behind this was What do you think
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in Ukraine state natural 14
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was already the third year The first was the
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fourth fifth year The
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second was
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2007 when Yushchenko dissolved the
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parliament illegally and dispersed the
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government
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and finally 2014 this is the last
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coup d'etat there was also an
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attempted
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coup in 2000-2002
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year, the so-called actions of Ukraine without
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Kuchma But then the government resisted, this was
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the only time when the Maidan in Ukraine
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began, it did not end in anything,
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in all three cases, the authorities come from
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people
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oriented towards the United States,
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in my opinion, absolutely who is behind this,
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it is unlikely that Putin strained very hard
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to bring Americans to power in Ukraine,
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while it must be said that both Kuchma
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against whom
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a coup was organized in 4 years and Yanukovych against whom
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all three coups were organized and in 4, 5, 7
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and 14 were leaders
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who declared Europeans
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about the Western choice, but they proceeded from the
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need to protect national
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economic interests of Ukraine
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They proceeded from the fact that the interests of
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national business should be
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protected and that Ukraine has certain
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state interests that always
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coincide with the state interests of
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Germany, and even more so with
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the state funds of Russia
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Yanukovych declared a policy of many
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Vectors when
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political integration
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should be considered in parallel with the
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possibility of
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economic cooperation with Russia,
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since the entire Ukrainian economy
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was essentially tied to the Russian
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market, it was tied to the Russian
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economy and without economic
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cooperation with Russia, Ukraine,
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so this position, despite the fact that
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it was more pro-Western in some way
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Russian and which did not at all
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satisfy Russia, it more
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But if
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we agree to offer
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conditions for economic cooperation
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to offer
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interesting conditions for integration,
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then the united ones were simply replaced
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replaced in Ukraine, the government removed the
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nascent nationality from power and will
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bring ordinary people to power
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will exist Ukraine will not
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exist what Ukraine will be like because the
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implementation of the instructions is
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why the
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American governments are finishing 14 years the
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fact that the American press
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is starting to write about terrible corruption in Ukraine, the
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principle is parent as much as you like. The main thing is
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that you carry out anti-Russian and
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now the United States knows very well
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that the cover-up policy of the Ukrainian
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Generals,
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American aid, financial aid is being
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stolen, details
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have been stated as their goals, they have officially declared the
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goal as the destruction of the Russian
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state, they
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have chosen as a method of destruction
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which should be carried out by anyone now,
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at least Ukraine will end.
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Ukraine will have to find someone
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else, for example, to
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supply Poland with weapons. It is
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clear that politicians who
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understand the conditions
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practically attach the interests of their
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own state, who make
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Ukraine into mechanisms of American
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influence on Russia, who destroy
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Ukraine, the actual state
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of the American interests in order to
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simply annoy in some way create
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difficulties for Russia, it is clear that they
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will not do all this for free and they
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look at the theft of American
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aid as compensation for the
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country, a
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virtually
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totalitarian government is being created
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Zelensky closed almost all
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opposition parties with the 6th or 7th party
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banned for
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21 years he is the
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opposition press, the opposition media
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means that if it works in the
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information space
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of the opposition, then it works from
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abroad, such as the
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weekly country ua, which can hardly be
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called pro-Russian, since the
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position of
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Ukrainian interests is how they
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understand it, they defend the Ukrainian position
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in this set, but since they are
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critical of Zelensky
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accordingly, a significant part of their
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editorial staff, editors-in-chief, their
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less visible journalists are already
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abroad, being on
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Ukrainian territory is simply dangerous information for them,
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one hundred percent classic about the
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American Latin American
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dictatorship, only transferred to the
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European Continent and instead of
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drug trafficking, the main source of their
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profit is the war against Russia in
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2014 was done with Ukraine.
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By the way, I don’t even think that this
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ultimately corresponds to the interests of the
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United States as a state. This
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corresponds to the interests of certain groups of
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American politicians who will actually
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go bankrupt by China’s intimidation of
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Americans;
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they need soldiers against Russia, Ukraine,
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Chinese Taiwan, and so on in order to
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demonstrate the supposedly terrible
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aggressive entities that, being on the
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other side of the planet, somehow
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threaten the United States not so
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that people simply do not ask Why the
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United States has sharply worsened
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over the past 22 decades Why have people
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become much worse
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in Russia
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much better
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in Russia the dynamics of development positive
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standard of living is constantly growing Even
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despite the fact that in recent years, over the
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last decade, Russia
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has practically been in a state of undeclared
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war with the West, which the United
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States has not formally declared. Well,
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de facto,
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their economic pressure is their financial
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pressure, which they are not trying to exert
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on Russia, and their attempts to constantly
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organize on Russian borders a
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hot spot like the Ukrainians
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unleash military conflicts with the participation of
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Russia
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and it requires the expenditure of quite
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serious resources; this does not interfere with the
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internal economic political and
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financial stability in Russia and
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its further progressive development;
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it slows down this development but does not interfere
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so that people do not
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wonder why the United States is where
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everything was so good it’s becoming so bad it’s
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becoming good we need scarecrows
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will distract the population’s attention from
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the bankruptcy of virtually
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democratic politicians who
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represent the Clinton group
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positive proposals positive
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agenda for Americans
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this is the lack of internal capabilities
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covered by external ones
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Rostislav How long do you think This war
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will continue And what do you think
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Poland and Germany still decide to
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somehow participate on the ground
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and send their troops to Brussels. In my opinion, a
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NATO convention is meeting next week and they said that they
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will discuss
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some kind of plan on how to wage a big war using some
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other methods, what is it somehow,
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that is, there is some kind of coalition or something
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outside that is what they want. That is, they have
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some kind of serious preparation there.
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How long do you think this war will take and
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what is the role of Germany and Poland in this in this
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war
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this is not the last
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not the least
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important thing is whether Poland will no longer have to
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enter into open confrontation with
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Russia and has a specific
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goal;
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historical problems and problems of
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current political concepts;
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security concepts that
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imply hostile relations towards
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Russia;
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Poland has historical claims to
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part of the Ukrainian territories, in particular
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in the territory of Western Ukraine;
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all these claims are bigger and I would like,
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perhaps I could now try to
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implement it,
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fears a direct military clash
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with Russia because the united state
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has outlined its position, it
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will definitely fight with Russia as
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Poland and not as a NATO country will not fight, which
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means and the Poles understand perfectly well that
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a clash with Russia one on one sooner
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or later leads them to a
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military-political catastrophe.
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Poland is now reforming its army,
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trying to strengthen it by about two times,
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but this process is quite long and
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increasing the numerical strength and rearmament of the
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army, it will not end tomorrow, not
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the day after tomorrow, and even after this is
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over All the same, the Polish army
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will be significantly inferior to the Russian army in
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everything
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that concerns the rest of
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Western Europe. The
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selfish policy of the United States
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played a cruel joke on NATO’s capabilities.
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When in the mid-90s the question was decided:
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If NATO is necessary for its existence,
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shouldn’t it be replaced by some kind of
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European security structure in
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general? a pan-European one which
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would be all of Europe, including the eastern ones. Perhaps
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even Russia. Then the United States,
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which assumed that having thus
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lost its military influence in
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Europe, they would also lose political
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influence, they proposed a form of NATO
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that theoretically saved the
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Europeans a large amount of money, they
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proposed a form of NATO in according to
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which the United States was responsible for the
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entire team so that the
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structure was provided
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and the European countries accepted the concept of
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specialization and began to build
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their emotional armies in
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the economy, they reduced non-core
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divisions, they significantly
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reduced the number of technical troops, they
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significantly reduced the funds
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allocated for the maintenance of national
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armies,
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thus we were given an actual
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military dependence on the United
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States, that is, after the reform
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was carried out, although it was not
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complete and not as it was initially
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presented There and so on. But
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after these measures were carried out, the
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European armies were not all together, not
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each separately, without the United
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States, nothing doesn’t represent itself,
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so now it’s very difficult for an American to
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force Europe to fight without the United
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States
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because the Europeans understand perfectly well
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that they don’t have enough weapons,
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which are half the sky and are not ready
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for combat, they need to
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be brought to their senses in another couple of years, they don’t have
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enough consumables there are
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literally no materials in the warehouses of
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missiles, shells, etc., for waging a
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long war, according to the American
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military, which was given in 21, the
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only European army that
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could seriously resist Russia at that time
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was the
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French army, believed the American
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But in any
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conflict, the French army will be able to
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hold out for about a month and a half
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after which the consumables will run out,
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it will not be able to simply continue to fight
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in Ukraine; the modern conflict is
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much more intense and requires a
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much larger amount of
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consumables and, accordingly, not
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a month and a half. But it’s good if
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even the most basic European army can hold out for three weeks,
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after which we’ll talk about this
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again This is what the Europeans are now saying,
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we already had few weapons, and now we have
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given most of what was ready to Ukraine and essentially have
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nothing to fight with, so when the Americans are trying to
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organize a pan-European war against Russia in place of the
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Russian Ukrainian conflict, the
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Europeans can’t understand why they will
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fight in this case,
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we only agree Let's
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not want to join you because this is a war of
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dual-nuclear powers
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and for the United States, even if this
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war does not go beyond the
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constitutional limits, even if
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nuclear weapons are not used for the
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United States to fight a war distant
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from its own lands territories with a
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state army not inferior to the
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American
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allies who seriously cannot
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support the United States and which are
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not all and not always reliable
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with the need
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extended logistics chains both
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for the delivery of weapons, the search for equipment
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and for servicing all this is
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extremely costly and cannot
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therefore Americans don’t want to wage a
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non-nuclear unconventional war with Russia.
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They want someone to fight. The
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United States was going to do this,
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dividends would be withdrawn.
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So, in principle, they would convince
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the Europeans to fight instead of them; they
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have succeeded in this more than once; I repeat,
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as a result of reforms initiated by the Americans in the
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military sphere including in NATO
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in the 90s, Europeans ask What are
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we going to fight with? But now
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British military retirees say Yes,
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in the early 90s there was an
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80,000-strong British Roman army in the arena,
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but now in all of Britain there are not so
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many military personnel who
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which could be sent to war
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the amount of equipment the Bundesler was a powerful
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army that could at any moment
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field several corps of 400 thousand
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bayonets supported by more than a thousand
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tanks,
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now at best it can field
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200 battle tanks or 250 And only
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then will it be able to assemble even though if there were 150
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thousand soldiers, this is a huge secret.
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Nobody knows, maybe it can, or maybe
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not, that is,
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not people, not equipment, not
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consumables, and when the United States is
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now trying to solve this issue and trying to
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restart work on the industrial
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complex both at home and in Europe, then we are talking
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about the fact that
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America
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can happen
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on the front line per day, they
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can produce such a number of shells only in the best case in
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25-26. This is in the best case, but this is
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necessary
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now; we need to replenish the tab in the
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warehouses of consumables; create
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new reserves.
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to wage a war, then it must
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ensure the conduct of this war from wheels,
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that is, the same amount of shells must be produced per day
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as are expended,
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preferably even more,
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so far there are no such military capabilities, I
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repeat in the United States they are
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not going to fight And how many
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European countries will be
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destroyed and crippled how many
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European countries
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conflicts of this kind will go bankrupt economically, by and large, anyway.
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Therefore, they are now trying to organize a
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big European war on the principle that
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Europe will resist Russia for two and a half years,
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and during this time
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Russia will incur economic costs;
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Russia will incur some serious losses in people,
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which means Russia will suffer financial
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losses. - then, and accordingly, the
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United States will have a better
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negotiating position in order to
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defend its interests within the framework of
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concluding some new new
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global deal because the Americans are
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now saying We agree, ready only
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their position includes a compromise The
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United States comes and says
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this is our position yes If you want, we
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can agree on the basis of this position,
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but this position means
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Just let you surrender to us
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Ultimatum Ultimatum Just let you
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surrender to us literally means
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no one is going to do this because
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a long time ago Russia China
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feels strong enough to
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resist America Like on the field battles in
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such financial economic sphere
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if they don’t understand this is the problem of the States, but
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this is not the Kremlin’s problem. This is not Beijing’s problem.
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We have no opportunity to reach an agreement yet. The
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official position of the
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United States is that the United
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States forced Europe. It is the
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West that must maintain victory over Russia
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on the battlefield,
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of course, but in general - So far
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they are doing very poorly
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in maintaining answers to the battle over Russia and
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I think that things will get even worse in the future
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Rostislav How many years do you think This will all
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take if NATO tries to
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somehow bring Germany and
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Poland into the territory of Ukraine and will
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Russia finish? whereas the Second World War in
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Berlin and Poland it seems
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that everything is heading towards history
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repeating itself. How many years do you think
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this could take because you are right,
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none
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of the parties have any negotiating ability because no one is
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ready for any compromises
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Naturally, Russia is not happy with what
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is happening in Ukraine and it doesn’t want
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Ukraine to become a NATO country.
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It wouldn’t suit America if
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Russia
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decided to put its missiles in Mexico,
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remember the Cuban crisis of ’64 and suddenly
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Russia has to agree with Ukraine in
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NATO and NATO missiles right on the Russian
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border of Russia, this naturally does not
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fit under
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any circumstances, but if NATO and our
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Biden are going to fight with Russia and
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also involve Germany and Poland and
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increase the capabilities of NATO
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How many years do you think this will all take and what
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will happen to Germany Poland, if they enter
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there, will Russia end up on the borders of these
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countries if they
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leave another question because if the Poles
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enter Ukraine
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uncompromisingly intending to fight with
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Russia,
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then the situation will become very close to a general
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European war and it will get
00:24:12
out of control, then politicians will be
00:24:15
hostages of the situation itself I'm trying The
00:24:17
United States and NATO cannot
00:24:19
allow the defeat of a NATO country by direct
00:24:21
confrontation with Russia, even if
00:24:24
they,
00:24:26
well, Russia is going to.
00:24:31
Therefore, we have a
00:24:34
two-stage model that at the first
00:24:36
stage leads very quickly to the danger of a
00:24:39
pan-European war and at the second stage
00:24:42
leads to the danger of a nuclear
00:24:43
clash because within the framework of a common
00:24:46
European war it is very easy to be tempted by the
00:24:50
losing side or the side
00:24:52
that does not feel
00:24:54
confident enough to use tactical nuclear weapons at the beginning, then
00:24:56
the man is
00:24:58
not far from exchanging strategic
00:25:00
blows,
00:25:01
therefore this is generally a very dangerous
00:25:04
scenario, not because this war can
00:25:05
last a long time although it can
00:25:07
last a long time even if it is not
00:25:09
applied, namely because this is the
00:25:12
last step within the framework of regulation; they
00:25:19
simply cannot take a step back
00:25:23
and are forced to raise the stakes,
00:25:26
including, first of all, a thought to
00:25:27
Western politicians who cannot
00:25:30
reach the compromise that would
00:25:33
acceptable for them, let’s say there a year and a half
00:25:35
ago theoretically. They went too far
00:25:38
in confrontation. They went too far
00:25:40
in promises to defeat Russia and they
00:25:43
went too far in the sacrifices that
00:25:45
Western societies have already made in
00:25:48
order to defeat Russia. Now it is necessary to
00:25:50
explain why the German economy was destroyed.
00:25:52
Why is the
00:25:53
economy of Europe being destroyed if it was possible to reach an
00:25:56
agreement completely calmly,
00:25:57
so now the stakes are too high
00:26:01
to easily reach
00:26:03
an agreement and the crisis is moving into an
00:26:05
uncontrollable stage if in Ukraine
00:26:08
Russia directly collides
00:26:11
with at least one state,
00:26:13
almost inevitably I say almost Because there
00:26:17
is always tolerance for a small
00:26:20
the likelihood of a miracle, it is almost inevitable that
00:26:22
other states will enter this conflict, and
00:26:24
this may not be all of them, but
00:26:26
significant parts of them,
00:26:28
so the crisis immediately outgrows a
00:26:31
pan-European war, if the United
00:26:34
States is now having a
00:26:36
morally and politically difficult time, it is difficult to lose
00:26:38
the war in Ukraine which they are somehow
00:26:40
involved in, then It
00:26:43
will be even more difficult for them to lose a
00:26:46
pan-European war; the loss
00:26:48
of the Americans to a pan-European war will equip the
00:26:52
ousting of the United States from Europe.
00:26:54
Not because Russia will even drive them out there,
00:26:57
but simply because the Europeans
00:27:00
will not need an ally who poisoned their
00:27:02
war and allowed this war to be lost.
00:27:04
Therefore, in the event of the start of a European war, the
00:27:08
United States The States will find themselves in even more
00:27:13
cramped conditions,
00:27:16
it will be even more important than it is now, it is even more
00:27:19
necessary than it is needed now, accordingly,
00:27:22
and any price includes
00:27:25
nuclear Blackmail from nuclear blackmail is not
00:27:28
so far from the actual nuclear strike, and a
00:27:30
nuclear strike always implies a
00:27:32
retaliatory strike, and then
00:27:35
it can be progressively very quickly it is possible within 24 hours of the
00:27:37
week, within a month, you can go from
00:27:41
exchanging small tactical
00:27:43
strategic nuclear weapons, so all this is
00:27:46
very dangerous. Not because the war can
00:27:49
last for many years, it can
00:27:51
last for many years, it means precisely
00:27:53
because it can be very short
00:27:56
but very destructive after which
00:27:57
humanity It remains to be seen whether civilizations will be assembled
00:28:00
on earth
00:28:03
if
00:28:07
Ukraine joins more. Honestly, I don’t
00:28:12
think it can be avoided at all
00:28:13
because more is also quite
00:28:16
limited in its capabilities and it’s just
00:28:22
difficult for Galicia for the Polish government.
00:28:26
Therefore, if Ukraine’s accession
00:28:29
occurs within the framework of some kind of
00:28:31
compromise with Russia
00:28:34
an agreement with Russia, even if it
00:28:37
is temporary, is an agreement. Even if
00:28:39
it is an incomplete agreement, in
00:28:42
this case the conflict can be avoided, at
00:28:45
least the conflict can be postponed
00:28:46
and then we can try to avoid it
00:28:49
altogether, try to look for a negotiated
00:28:51
compromise, then we will have a gap in
00:28:54
time, first of all- secondly, then we will
00:28:56
lower the bar of confrontation, the
00:28:58
hot war in Ukraine will disappear, there is no longer a
00:29:03
war, but with everyone else, after all,
00:29:05
he is negotiating,
00:29:07
then there is a chance to jump out of this
00:29:12
bad sequence that is
00:29:14
driving us into an increasingly harsh
00:29:16
confrontation
00:29:20
that only brings
00:29:23
additional costs to everyone and which
00:29:25
ultimately will not lead anyone to
00:29:28
victory because the
00:29:31
nuclear powers are a
00:29:33
draw, since the nuclear powers and
00:29:36
Russia, the middle States and China always have
00:29:38
the last nuclear argument, which
00:29:41
simply erases humanity
00:29:44
from the map of the planet like an eraser, which means a
00:29:47
general draw arises which does not
00:29:49
suit anyone, but in any case
00:29:53
allows the
00:29:55
loser to escape defeats
00:29:58
Rostislav I know that you are limited in
00:30:02
time, too. Therefore, the last question
00:30:05
I hope is not the last at all, I hope
00:30:08
you and I will repeat this another time
00:30:10
Zelensky, he is going to run
00:30:13
in 24, in my opinion, he said that he
00:30:17
will be for one term and the question is also
00:30:20
about Zelensky that happened to him. When he
00:30:23
was running for office, he talked about the
00:30:25
need to stop the war in Donbass, that
00:30:29
Ukraine had been for many years before he was
00:30:32
elected president, Ukraine had bombed
00:30:36
Eastern Ukraine, the Donbass region, and he
00:30:40
was like, that’s all, the war needs to be
00:30:43
stopped and the Russian language. I don’t ban
00:30:46
I will do this And suddenly such a turn and he
00:30:49
turned into a nationalist he
00:30:51
turned into dictators prohibits the
00:30:53
Russian language prohibits the church prohibits
00:30:57
the opposition and if the channel and television
00:31:00
Media are independent Media what happened to him
00:31:03
And as you see in 24
00:31:06
Will he run for office again he said
00:31:08
that he it seems like only for one term. What is
00:31:11
your opinion on this matter?
00:31:13
Regarding what he said there, the
00:31:18
meaning of the statement was not entirely clear, that is,
00:31:21
whether he is a president for one term, or whether he
00:31:24
was going to solve the problems that
00:31:28
Ukraine faces within one term,
00:31:29
but this does not mean he will not be
00:31:31
balanced for a second term, this is actually
00:31:33
not so important because in Ukraine any
00:31:35
president will be balanced for a
00:31:37
second term of any kind because in
00:31:42
his actions he has only one chance, one
00:31:47
opportunity to avoid criminal
00:31:50
prosecution is to remain in power
00:31:52
for life, no one else has this it didn’t work out, but
00:31:57
at least everyone
00:31:59
was striving for this. Well, besides, when the
00:32:02
president essentially heads
00:32:06
one of the
00:32:09
semi-mafia structures that
00:32:12
control all states in terms of corruption,
00:32:15
then he is responsible
00:32:16
to the structure. That is, his
00:32:19
own employees will not let him just
00:32:22
take because if he just leaves and
00:32:26
where then they will have another team and they will no
00:32:29
longer rob they will not rob them they will be
00:32:34
imprisoned in Ukraine they are not always imprisoned very
00:32:39
often they take away the loot what
00:32:41
is happening Just a redistribution of
00:32:43
new leaders
00:32:52
will certainly be as
00:32:54
for why Zelensky Yeah
00:32:58
looks one way or another but firstly,
00:33:01
the ecumenical one did not promise anything that
00:33:03
Zelensky is credited with him, very
00:33:06
abstract, extensible promises that
00:33:09
allowed everyone to
00:33:11
see in this what he wanted to see, those
00:33:15
who wanted peace and normal
00:33:17
relations with Russia heard that
00:33:19
Zelensky said that
00:33:21
peace could be concluded there instantly, the main thing is only
00:33:22
stop shooting those who wanted Victory
00:33:25
in the Donbass heard that Zelensky on
00:33:29
Ukrainian terms,
00:33:30
Ukrainian conditions are Victory in the Donbass, the
00:33:34
defeat of the
00:33:36
people's militia of the DPR LPR is a way out at
00:33:40
the border, and so on. These were
00:33:41
Ukrainian conditions,
00:33:42
so
00:33:46
Zelensky's election campaign was
00:33:49
built quite competently from the
00:33:52
point of view that it is
00:33:56
so
00:33:59
vague that a significant part of
00:34:02
the population, even people of opposite
00:34:04
views, believed that Zelensky promises
00:34:06
exactly what they want to implement.
00:34:11
I said that Ukraine is very similar to the
00:34:14
American dictatorship of the last
00:34:17
third of the 20th century, with its own characteristics, of course.
00:34:21
I think that there were no such
00:34:24
stupid, cruel and corrupt dictatorships
00:34:27
even Latin America
00:34:30
And as you remember, in principle, the United
00:34:34
States, which control
00:34:36
Latin America, which
00:34:38
absolutely did not give a damn, a politician comes to power
00:34:40
under left-wing slogans from right-wing
00:34:43
slogans, whatever slogans the main
00:34:45
thing is that he follows the instructions of the
00:34:47
United States,
00:34:49
he can be right, but if he tries to
00:34:52
defend national interests, then he
00:34:55
they will expel or kill
00:34:58
But if he cooperates with the United
00:35:01
States, he will be considered a democrat, and
00:35:04
so on. And if he does not join the United
00:35:06
States, he will be considered a Marxist
00:35:09
revolutionary, which means an enemy of civilization,
00:35:11
and so on, in Ukraine it’s about the same
00:35:14
thing now, the United States did not
00:35:16
carry out
00:35:18
coups d’etat and they took control of the country
00:35:19
so that some Zelensky could decide something there,
00:35:23
he can simply relay instructions
00:35:25
from Washington. He can
00:35:28
interpret in some way. But even
00:35:30
Poroshenko, who interpreted too freely
00:35:31
and who were not
00:35:34
drawn into the war like him, was not pushed by the
00:35:37
United States Poroshenko,
00:35:39
unlike Zelensky, did not start a war with Russia
00:35:41
and Poroshenko did not allow the United States to
00:35:44
appoint his own man Yatsenyuk to the post of prime minister,
00:35:47
he knocked him out of this position
00:35:49
and further did not allow any
00:35:52
American literature to be promoted to this position,
00:35:54
so even Poroshenko I don’t know what’s going on in
00:35:56
general pursued American policies
00:35:58
and was not friends with Russia. This means that even the
00:36:02
Americans did not allow him to be re-elected to a
00:36:03
second term. Because they needed to
00:36:05
manage even more a person, a
00:36:11
completely controllable person without
00:36:14
any experience in politics, but
00:36:17
with gigantic ambitions. Therefore, he was
00:36:20
simply given Bonaparte's cocked hat and
00:36:23
said you will be the winner of Russia, we will
00:36:25
help you. I
00:36:27
gladly went to win Russia
00:36:30
in the hope that the Westerner will save and
00:36:33
help then now I will have to too, this is
00:36:36
happening because you see that
00:36:38
Western help comes late at
00:36:40
the wrong time,
00:36:41
small ones, does not solve the problems of Ukraine,
00:36:45
drives new new problems and even
00:36:49
a person is not very good at the
00:36:55
dynamics of the development of the situation, what
00:36:57
to calculate not only what it will be like when
00:37:01
approximately it will come,
00:37:03
you understand now the question is the
00:37:06
Ukrainian state and
00:37:11
if it has time, then where and how will they receive him there
00:37:14
after he runs away
00:37:16
or does this naturally not inspire him
00:37:19
to be
00:37:22
interested? inspired to
00:37:25
do new things
00:37:27
Thank you Rostislav Thank you
00:37:30
very much for taking
00:37:31
part in this discussion today I hope we will
00:37:34
do this again of course with pleasure
00:37:36
I hope that you can send me a link to this
00:37:39
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