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Welcome, our viewers, to this new episode00:00:03
of Egypt Time. Certainly, the visit of00:00:06
US Secretary of State Lynn Kant was the00:00:09
most prominent event in Egypt. US Secretary of State00:00:11
Anthony00:00:15
met President Abdel Fattah El-Sisi in Cairo, reviewing the00:00:17
important role Egypt is undertaking in promoting00:00:20
stability in the region. He also discussed the00:00:23
ongoing efforts to calm tensions. Between the Palestinians00:00:25
and the Israelis, and on the bilateral level, happy00:00:29
relations between the two countries, Linkin spoke about00:00:32
Washington’s support for the economic reform agenda in Egypt00:00:34
and the International Monetary Fund program, and that00:00:37
work is being done to increase trade between the two countries,00:00:40
indicating that the United States has provided about00:00:43
30 billion dollars in the form of economic aid00:00:47
to Egypt, the00:00:52
human rights file. He also had a prominent presence,00:00:55
as the US Secretary of State said that the00:00:57
United States will continue to encourage Egypt to00:01:00
take steps in the field of human rights,00:01:03
including releasing more00:01:06
political prisoners and ensuring freedom of opinion and expression. Following00:01:09
talks he held in Cairo with President00:01:11
Sisi, Foreign Minister Sameh Shoukry said Link00:01:14
that Egypt has taken important steps to protect00:01:17
religious freedoms, empower women, and release some00:01:20
political prisoners, as well as calling for00:01:23
national dialogue and activating the presidential pardon committee, because00:01:27
fears still exist, as he expressed this00:01:30
explicitly during his visit. This is what he ate. So, with00:01:35
regard to the issue of human rights, we will stop.00:01:39
I mean, a lot. In light of these statements, we welcome from00:01:42
Cairo the representative of Amr Darwish, a member of the House of Representatives.00:01:45
Also,00:01:49
Mr. Sherif Hilali, director of the Arab Foundation00:01:51
for Civil and Human Rights Support, will be with us via satellite. I will start with you,00:01:55
Deputy Amr Darwish. What stopped you in these00:01:58
statements? Perhaps there was an expectation from the00:02:02
democratic administration to focus in a way. Akbar on the00:02:04
issue of human rights, but these statements00:02:07
largely contain encouragement for Egypt to improve00:02:10
human rights, which is similar to what the commandments mean, without an00:02:15
individual guardian over Egypt. How were these statements received?00:02:21
The truth is what others testified to. I mean, in any case, the00:02:25
Egyptian state has a very great interest00:02:28
in its files. Egypt A strong woman can manage00:02:32
her affairs however she wants. We have seen very significant progress00:02:36
in the human rights file, in empowering women,00:02:38
in empowering young people to live a decent life, in their00:02:41
own initiatives, in health, in housing, in00:02:45
infrastructure. In fact, Egypt is investing00:02:48
billions of pounds in this file so that we can reach... My00:02:51
level of concern for what is called, of course,00:02:55
interest in the human rights file is a statement, so that00:02:59
means we are receiving it in a positive way, but in00:03:01
any case, Egypt is starting on this file,00:03:03
regardless of any statements. Today means00:03:05
positive breaks. Tomorrow, regardless of00:03:08
the statements, but in any case, we are00:03:10
completely convinced that the state After June 30, the Egyptian government00:03:13
is able to manage its files in a00:03:15
positive manner, and at the same time it is very interested00:03:18
in the human rights file. And of course, our colleagues in the00:03:21
Presidential Pardon Committee can also do so. This is a very00:03:24
important committee, meaning it has received hundreds and thousands of00:03:27
requests related to it. It is possible to release the prisoners by00:03:31
releasing the prisoners. People, I mean, brought before the00:03:34
Egyptian justice. Therefore, we are00:03:37
also talking about a committee that can coordinate the youth of00:03:39
parties and politicians. We have also begun a stage of00:03:42
psychological rehabilitation and psychological preparation for %pw00:03:45
those who were released from prisons with a presidential pardon.00:03:48
We are talking about concerns in a positive way for %pw the face of00:03:52
political life00:03:53
and it can be. Also, through what you mentioned, the00:03:56
national dialogue is related to it, an open dialogue in all00:03:59
fields to all political forces, regardless00:04:02
of their affiliations. Therefore, we are talking about a00:04:05
file that Egypt has presented in a lot, not only now,00:04:09
but it appears clearly and clearly that we are in this00:04:12
file, the Egyptian administration, a strong Egypt. With her00:04:15
different influence, she appreciates that she and she can manage00:04:18
this file in a positive way. Ok, moving on, hmmm,00:04:22
our guest via satellite, Mr. Sherif00:04:25
Hilali, Mr. Sharif. I mean, do you think that00:04:29
Blinken’s statements, which could be described as00:04:32
somewhat soft, actually express or00:04:35
mean confirm what he said? Some00:04:39
Egyptian jurists say that the human rights file00:04:43
must remain an internal file through interactions between the00:04:48
internal political and legal forces with00:04:50
the state to reach a satisfactory solution, and that relying00:04:53
on external pressures means that it ends with the first00:04:57
meeting of interests.00:05:01
Welcome, Mr. Tamer, and thank you for the friendship and my family’s00:05:04
generous agreement in life. I am In my opinion,00:05:07
of course, internal work is important, meaning00:05:09
internal interactions and demands of the human rights movement that are00:05:11
essentially independent of the human rights situation00:05:15
and the demands in general of Egyptians towards an investigation and definition of the00:05:19
human rights committee. At the same time, this does not00:05:22
negate the influence of external work, and the only external work,00:05:26
meaning especially in the Egyptian-00:05:28
American relationship, is A factor that you can say is an00:05:31
essential factor, but it is among other factors, such as those related to the00:05:33
regional situation, concern for Arab-00:05:36
Israeli prayer, which means that it was a large part of the00:05:39
last visit. It is possible to talk about00:05:42
not escalating the situation, concerns in Palestine, and the00:05:45
Egyptian role in this context is also related00:05:47
to the files of Sudan as well as Libya. It has a relationship with the situation00:05:50
in Ukraine. In fact, it is my assessment00:05:52
that it is the external factor. This is its relationship with - it00:05:55
always has a basic relationship with these situations. I mean, it00:05:58
may remain a basic and essential factor, and it is possible that its00:06:01
ranking may sometimes be delayed to, for example, the third or00:06:04
first factor. Fourth, the internal practicality is important, but at the same00:06:07
time. Is it possible for us to change this00:06:10
sometimes to a negative factor, because it is sometimes00:06:14
observed that in cases where there is00:06:17
external pressure and internal and external talk, there is something00:06:21
similar to that between parentheses. Knowing that the state00:06:23
sometimes takes these external pressures sensitively,00:06:26
it feels that if it releases someone who has00:06:29
external demands, this is what it means. A claim for these demands. Do00:06:31
these external pressures, or do they mean that00:06:34
external attempts to improve human rights00:06:36
in Egypt sometimes have the opposite effect? Sometimes in00:06:42
some cases, I mean, but in general, and00:06:45
in my opinion, they speak to the changes that occurred during the00:06:48
last period of the 21st National Day for00:06:52
Human Rights, the cessation of the state of emergency, and the activation of00:06:54
this presidential pardon committee. All of them were linked to the escalation of00:06:57
external pressures, not only the American pressure, not the00:06:59
European pressure as well, and resolutions abusing the00:07:02
European Parliament regarding human rights. You cannot00:07:04
say that it will work in some cases, I mean, like the00:07:06
cases, for example, on Abdel Fattah, and this is the solution that00:07:08
was subjected to great pressure at the conference at the00:07:10
climate summit in The past regime, but in general, it is a00:07:13
factor. I am gradually an important factor.00:07:15
Other well-known international organizations, such as Amnesty International,00:07:18
Switch Barda Maram, and Egyptian human rights organizations00:07:20
located abroad, are estimated to have00:07:23
played an important role in life. If it were not for them, I mean,00:07:26
I estimate that this external year is a part of it that00:07:29
affects... There is a change in the concerns of the human rights situation00:07:33
in Egypt. I mean, this is a basic factor that00:07:35
you cannot do, and the internal factor is important, but it is00:07:37
balanced by the external factor.00:07:40
Ok, so let us go again to Amr00:07:43
Darwish’s representative, if we exclude or distance ourselves from the idea of00:07:46
external pressures, which the state is sometimes00:07:48
sensitive to. Ok. Why don't you respond? Or does it00:07:52
not seem that you are even keen on dealing with the00:07:55
civil society and human rights organizations that are calling for00:07:58
this from inside Egypt? I mean, the websites of these organizations are00:08:02
sometimes blocked, and some of their workers are exposed to00:08:05
persecution. I mean, if we exclude the external factor,00:08:09
which is also internal, the state will sometimes be,00:08:12
in the Egyptian expression, take it narrowly. With someone or with00:08:15
anyone who talks about the issue of human rights, I00:08:20
mean, with everything that is happening and his character is distressed, I mean, I00:08:23
see that this is the patience of Ayoub, but just allow me to make a00:08:26
small comment like this, quickly, on the issue of00:08:29
foreign intervention. Firstly, we have said and mentioned more00:08:33
than once that the issue of intervention Gulf first, this is a00:08:35
historical issue, meaning it is not new. Perhaps a00:08:37
file about a human being was among the files that00:08:40
countries might use to interfere in00:08:44
internal affairs, not only for Egypt, but to treat others.00:08:46
Perhaps we have mentioned and said more than once that the00:08:48
issue of thinking, foreign intervention, or extrapolation00:08:51
abroad, is an unacceptable topic. Your appearance and topic, I mean,00:08:55
anyone who has any demands has, of course, the concerns of the state. He has00:08:58
concerns about Egypt. He can talk about it however he wants, and00:09:01
there is nothing more eloquent than the forces of equation that exist00:09:04
now. The issue of extrapolation abroad is the issue of00:09:06
summoning an external force in an attempt to influence or00:09:10
pressure economically, socially, or00:09:13
politically. I I say to you that even if00:09:16
I grant him my people, this will remain rejected and will be met with the utmost00:09:19
resolute resolve from the people, because the people will not be able to take00:09:23
their eyes off them a little bit,00:09:25
because while they are done, what is the internal affairs of the human being, before he00:09:29
forgot at this point, the responsible human being has become00:09:32
global, because it is a global issue that crosses borders,00:09:35
meaning Egypt in the international review of the periodic?00:09:38
To Denmark, Sweden and others, they offer concerns, meaning00:09:42
observations on the state of human rights rights in00:09:44
Denmark and in As-Suwayla.00:09:46
Why do they always care to improve some conditions? Why do they always care to look sensitively at any point regarding the00:09:50
human rights file, specifically regarding external intervention by00:09:54
countries? I mean, for example, in the file, the00:09:57
International Monetary Fund, for the sake of my hand. An Egyptian00:09:58
aid worker says, “By God, I am asking for such00:10:00
and such reforms. Why does he look? This is because it is an00:10:03
external control.00:10:07
Well, I mean, I will ask your permission if something is mentioned. Of course, an00:10:09
Egyptian example. I can give you another example. Someone whose00:10:12
house is made of glass does not throw people with bricks.00:10:14
If we are going to talk about the human rights file. At the00:10:17
global level, you will talk about minorities,00:10:19
you will talk about persecution, you will talk about00:10:22
very many things. I do not think that time allows us to00:10:25
object to them today, but in00:10:27
reality, what I just want to emphasize is that as00:10:30
we are talking or trying to talk00:10:32
about the human rights file in... Egypt We can00:10:35
comfortably say that we are talking about a file about a human being00:10:38
in all the countries that can talk about this00:10:39
issue, but you also mentioned the topic is important in the00:10:42
issue of civil society organizations inside Egypt. I00:10:45
want to say to you, I mean, you are also talking about a00:10:47
parliamentary representative, it is a legislative and digital role,00:10:50
there is no. A state of extreme openness like this. I00:10:52
personally attended meetings and conferences of00:10:56
civil society organizations, but we do not always have to focus in00:10:59
this issue on a specific file on specific people.00:11:03
The purpose of using it to gain power abroad means that00:11:06
we have a file like a decent life, like00:11:09
women’s empowerment, like youth empowerment, like 100 million health issues. It is00:11:12
true that the renaissance that Egypt is witnessing now is true.00:11:15
We have difficult economic conditions. No one can tell us what to00:11:17
do with any country in the world. Perhaps the countries of the00:11:19
developed world also suffer from it, but in the end,00:11:22
we are able to manage our affairs on00:11:25
our own. We do not need anyone’s guardianship, we do not need00:11:28
anyone’s entreaties, and we do not need anyone else.00:11:30
One of the sons of Egypt is trying to settle00:11:33
abroad under the illusion that he will be able to obtain a right.00:11:36
He sees it from his point of view. He will not be able to take it except00:11:38
in this way. Egypt is changing, and there is nothing more00:11:42
eloquent than the recent statements you mentioned and said to her00:11:44
today, and I told you that the truth means what is seen00:11:46
in it. The others, this means00:11:48
that these are the correct numbers for you because,00:11:53
yes,00:12:05
sir, but in the part about the file, the00:12:07
Palestinian issue is a popular, national, Arab, Arab file. I00:12:11
mean, it is also connected to the00:12:14
Egyptian political positions, and there is nothing more eloquent than the position of the00:12:17
Egyptian Foreign Ministry, which it supported during the00:12:19
past period, that of course it means sparing the blood of the00:12:22
Egyptians. Spending the blood of the Palestinians is, of course, a00:12:25
priority. The Palestinian issue is the00:12:27
first issue of the Arabs. There is no difference between it at the00:12:29
popular level or at the political,00:12:30
executive and leadership level in Egypt. Ok, let us go to00:12:33
Professor Sherif Hilal. Professor Sherif. If we listen to00:12:35
Blanken’s speech and explain it like this, we will find it00:12:39
very close to the speech of the Egyptian state. What she is saying,00:12:42
in short, is that the state conducted a national dialogue, an00:12:46
amnesty committee, and took steps in the field of women’s empowerment00:12:49
and in many other areas, and there are still00:12:53
steps that the state is supposed to take. You00:12:56
almost say to yourself, “Well, this is that we have made00:12:58
reforms and we will still make reforms, and in the palaces00:13:01
we want to deal with them.” He also talked about the idea of00:13:04
speaking modestly, and he said in an interview with Mada Masry,00:13:07
for example, that we speak modestly because we00:13:09
also have our own problems and internal challenges, so I do not have00:13:12
guardianship to anyone, and this is almost the same as what the00:13:15
Egyptian state says, that all countries have00:13:18
files and problems and are supposed to deal with them in their own00:13:20
way, meaning their limitations. The Ministry of Interior,00:13:24
look at the nature of these statements, and this is what it looks like00:13:27
to support the Egyptian position with regard to00:13:30
human rights.00:13:33
I mean, I disagree a little with some of00:13:36
the things that were said before I get into00:13:37
the statements. The idea of reception abroad or00:13:40
guardianship from abroad. I am a man. This concept is00:13:42
not correct at all. You, you talked about. Part00:13:45
of the international mechanisms for human rights, which is the00:13:47
Human Rights Council. Periodic review00:13:49
and recommendations are presented by countries. Egypt agreed00:13:52
to 300 recommendations. What did you do about them? What did you do00:13:55
about the National Council for Human Rights?00:13:58
Egyptian civil society. The Human Rights Movement is part00:14:00
of dealing with in the approach of the international idea of00:14:04
human rights itself.00:14:06
Okay, so when you go to submit a report parallel to the00:14:10
government file, this is not with pious or concerned people00:14:13
abroad, nor is it short from abroad on the human rights file,00:14:15
meaning a member of the United Nations from00:14:18
its dissent, it is submitted almost in accordance with the00:14:21
international agreements on human rights, and by the way, it is00:14:22
close to civil and political rights. I am in.00:14:25
My appreciation is that we should not use this language00:14:28
a lot with the report of international non-governmental organizations or00:14:32
the positions that you are a friend of human rights or the00:14:34
United Nations regarding human rights. This is a00:14:36
beginning. We should not say that any meeting00:14:40
between Egyptian organizations, society, countries, or00:14:44
international non-governmental organizations is bullying. Or,00:14:47
Sa'i, the idea of human rights should be adhered00:14:49
to regardless of anything, but it is part of the00:14:51
hand of the United Nations human rights mechanisms.00:14:54
If you do not implement the recommendations that were presented to you, then00:14:57
you will be in a complete problem. I mean, Hmm00:15:00
first in the government report, like Hmm and Amnesty00:15:04
International.00:15:08
Are his statements? It is like a message of support to the state.00:15:17
No, she cannot say that it is support in reality. I00:15:19
mean, it is more than a diplomatic position. I mean, it is possible that00:15:22
if it is in a more intense situation, that is, it is related to00:15:26
human rights, it can be expressed in other forms or00:15:29
behind the scenes, but in front of the cameras, it00:15:31
will definitely remain in a more diplomatic position00:15:34
as well. You also take into consideration the position of the part00:15:38
of the democratic administration in America that is00:15:40
concerned about constantly talking about human rights and00:15:43
demanding that the American administration00:15:45
take many steps00:15:49
to put pressure on the Egyptian administration in this file.00:15:52
This is also an important part, oh, they are entering into the00:15:54
presidential elections at the end of the year, and also The00:15:56
last Cuban elections in which the00:15:58
%pw majority saw the Republicans at all or00:16:01
not, we will see. Hmm, but in reality, it means00:16:04
of course that the American administration can sometimes00:16:07
outweigh other factors, as I told you, the00:16:09
regional factor and the speed factor, Ukraine with Russia,00:16:11
and the other, all of this affects its view of the file. Hmm.00:16:15
Also, is there great pressure inside Egypt,00:16:19
internally, also regarding human rights? Is there no00:16:22
significant issue in its positions, as we saw in 2011?00:16:24
You can take the maximum amount of pressure. It does not00:16:27
achieve or achieve everything for you. It means that you talk about00:16:30
everything, and the internal pressures are limited or00:16:33
complete. Dealing with it in a caring way means that it is a00:16:36
permissible violation and the other is Hilali, because you and I00:16:40
talked about what is in front of the cameras. We will go away for a while00:16:43
to see what happened away from00:16:46
the cameras. I thank you very much, Mr. Sherif00:16:49
Hilali, Director of the Arab Foundation for Supporting00:16:51
Civil Society and Human Rights. Thank you because Amr Darwish will remain00:16:54
a member of the Council. Representatives in Egypt are trying to find out00:16:57
what happened in the interview conducted by00:17:00
Anthony Blink with a number of activists,00:17:03
human rights actors and politicians. I welcome, by phone,00:17:06
Mr. Khaled Daoud, the former head of the00:17:08
Constitution Party and the official spokesman for the00:17:11
Civil Democratic Movement. Frankly speaking, Khaled is possible.00:17:14
Professor Sharif challenges that there are only bear statements.00:17:16
It was said in front of the cameras. Plankin accepted00:17:20
these statements today. Yesterday evening, he was sitting00:17:22
with you, politicians and real people. Is what was said00:17:27
in closed rooms different from what was said today00:17:30
in or in front of the camera on the00:17:43
human rights file00:17:47
or by the US Secretary of State? It can be understood within the00:17:52
framework of the desire to maintain the00:17:54
strategic relationship. It was described before the strategy between the00:17:57
girls, and the end is a kind of encouragement from the00:17:59
American administration in further steps,00:18:02
but I think it means that you are also aware that the00:18:06
concerns that appeared in the president00:18:08
may differ from the previous administration in which00:18:11
President Sisi led the president of the state, Trump, in00:18:14
terms of its insistence that the issue of human rights be00:18:17
among the The issues that are always raised in00:18:20
bilateral meetings between the two countries, keeping00:18:23
in mind, of course, that the previous speaker talked about are00:18:26
important regional issues, such as the00:18:30
Palestinian issues, Libya, Sudan, and I mean00:18:33
others, and the issue of combating terrorism and all of these00:18:35
matters. I mean, it was the session yesterday in00:18:39
the first place, and the desire to listen to %pw, uh, evaluate what is00:18:42
possible in the field. It is the human being or our position.00:18:45
We, as representatives of the Egyptian opposition, from the00:18:48
measures that were taken in the00:18:51
past period and launching the call for national dialogue. The00:18:54
national dialogue concerns itself and what the00:18:58
American administration can do for it, meaning supporting the00:19:03
human rights file, taking into account,00:19:04
Mr. Tamer00:19:06
Taqlid, with regard to successive American administrations.00:19:09
For many years, he has been on00:19:11
visits by senior officials to Egypt or to00:19:15
other countries in the region, so he has been keen to meet not00:19:18
only with the official side, but also to meet with the %pw the00:19:21
different parties with00:19:24
different visions before he meets with us and the group.00:19:28
This is a tradition, uh, by the way, this is a tradition, Professor00:19:31
Khaled. I want to stand with you at one point because the -00:19:33
the - those who attended the dialogue were three00:19:35
jurists, Mr. Hossam Jahjah Bahja,00:19:39
Ms. Raji Omran, and Mr. Ahmed00:19:40
Abdullah, in addition to you as a00:19:42
political official, in a sense, meaning only four.00:19:45
Civilization of the dialogue. Previous traditions00:19:48
and previous meetings would have been an hour or so.00:19:50
Much more and a much larger number of00:19:53
human rights activists participate in it. What is different this time from00:19:56
his face?00:19:57
I mean, I personally do not think that he00:20:00
used to have great habits. He used to remain in, I mean, his00:20:02
desire to stay away from sitting, to remain a white relative, because he00:20:05
means, as I told you, before he came to00:20:07
meet me at all times. The American Minister had a00:20:08
meeting or a meeting at the American University with00:20:10
young leaders00:20:12
and women leaders, and this matter may have been an00:20:16
expanded form of the meeting, but in the00:20:18
meeting there were no %pw, I mean, figures from00:20:21
civil society or from the groups of the opposition. I think00:20:24
that the narrow meeting has a longer opportunity for00:20:28
Bringing different opinions and points of view into00:20:31
consideration is that the meeting is for00:20:35
45 minutes,00:20:37
so concerns, of course, as I said, are also a sign00:20:42
that, for the current administration there, it means an00:20:45
insistence on adhering to the fact that00:20:48
human concerns are among the important issues affecting00:20:52
Egyptian relations in particular. I00:20:57
mean, Your Honor, and certainly observers of the00:21:00
Egyptian-American relationship, even in the eyes of Taking into account that00:21:03
in the past two years, the US State Department00:21:05
has cut part of the00:21:09
military aid that the United States provides00:21:11
to Egypt because of its human rights record, so this means that00:21:16
perhaps you will not hear about the concerns of other areas of the00:21:20
US administration, but with regard to the US State Department00:21:22
in particular, I think that this file is one of the00:21:25
files that has priority. As for the00:21:27
current minister, the picture is clear. Thank you, Mr. Khaled00:21:30
Daoud, the former president of the constitution and00:21:32
spokesman for this civil movement.Description:
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