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I will return as a top so right away We00:00:04
may well be in construction Why am I not00:00:06
printing hair Journal That is, you00:00:09
saved one life You will save humanity in00:00:11
your head I guarded at least something there is00:00:14
now a good life will come00:00:16
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Hello dear friends This is an00:00:31
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Stanislav Kryuchkov And I am glad to meet00:00:36
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He is already in touch with us00:01:01
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Leonid Yakovlevich Hello, I am glad to00:01:07
meet you00:01:09
mutually I’m also very happy in Russia with lilacs. They are00:01:11
forbidden to pick, but how can you avoid picking lilacs in May00:01:14
today is Border Guard Day, by the way, a00:01:18
beautiful day, of course, the00:01:20
State Duma forbade picking00:01:22
lilacs while continuing to be offended What they00:01:25
call a state fool is00:01:28
wonderful Because people are busy with business,00:01:30
you understand that I don’t care for00:01:34
long - they discussed for a long time and understood that it is00:01:36
necessary to legally prohibit, uh, tear up00:01:39
Syria. So to ban now a00:01:41
good life will come, so everyone00:01:43
thought when it will come now, they haven’t00:01:47
sent them yet, but they are proposing to00:01:50
send them to forced labor for00:01:53
damaging flower beds, and the idea in the investigative00:01:56
committee is also not standing in Lindsay's place,00:01:58
we're playing, and I fell into the hands of Alexander00:02:01
Bastrykin, saying a couple of awkward words00:02:04
concerning, by the way, Russians, that is,00:02:07
concerning me personally, and I'm puzzled, well, I need to00:02:11
figure it out. What is the reason for this00:02:13
desire to understand each of the00:02:17
reasons that happen, maybe00:02:20
not directly next to you, but00:02:23
nevertheless somehow related to you,00:02:25
but very, very distantly00:02:30
offended teenagers,00:02:36
someone laughed from behind at no other than00:02:40
me00:02:43
[music]00:02:51
interpret00:02:53
this, draw all sorts of conclusions; it’s00:02:57
funny that they do not understand the limits of00:03:00
their jurisdiction, this is your time, remember00:03:03
Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin uttered a00:03:04
general phrase, asked the child where00:03:07
the borders of Russia end,00:03:09
they don’t end anywhere at all, they don’t end at all, and that’s why,00:03:12
in fact, taking into account00:03:15
this new law that prohibits00:03:18
cards, it’s wrong. Well, you probably know00:03:21
what if a card that violates the00:03:23
territorial integrity of Russia is a00:03:25
crime. That is, if I’ll draw a00:03:26
map where there is no Crimea. A Russian map of00:03:29
Russia without Crimea, then I myself am00:03:31
already a criminal from the very beginning. Yes, and with this I00:03:33
propose to draw further maps on00:03:36
which there is a globe, they will be called00:03:37
Russia, that’s all, just the whole thing, and then there00:03:41
will be no problems. But they they don’t understand00:03:43
the borders, you understand, Well, he can’t write to the00:03:47
investigative committee of Russia, no matter who the00:03:49
uh general with the stars is, he can’t00:03:53
start a criminal case against a00:03:55
United States senator00:03:57
in it, you understand the jurisdictions of00:04:03
foreign agents of foreigners that Well, the00:04:06
very idea of foreign agents is insanely,00:04:08
of course, not illegal but00:04:14
who is ethnically Bulgarian started a00:04:17
citizen I don’t know for sure not Russian00:04:18
yes What an00:04:21
idiot between you have to be Well, what are00:04:23
the guys an agent in theory Yes, this is the enemy00:04:26
of the people that they identified who are00:04:28
inside but there is Christ of Georgia Vladimir00:04:32
Zelensky00:04:33
cannot be foreign agents00:04:36
because they foreigners, they are already00:04:38
foreigners But this doesn’t matter at all,00:04:42
and the main thing is that the pot00:04:44
needs to be boiled and they cook it, by the way,00:04:48
partly it’s also a bureaucratic,00:04:51
bureaucratic phenomenon. Because when00:04:52
there is a bureaucratic organization, it00:04:55
has to work, it won’t work in the00:04:57
furnace, the Chinese are there for something there the00:05:00
burnt royal wheels were spinning,00:05:02
for example with foreign ones, look00:05:05
once they created some kind of00:05:07
unit00:05:08
headed there, I don’t know, let’s say with00:05:10
some colonel Colonel Pupkin Yes,00:05:12
who was ordered to look for foreign00:05:15
agents, so he is looking for foreign agents00:05:17
on the show00:05:19
And then he has foreign agents00:05:21
end00:05:24
all the people who are declared as foreign00:05:27
agents have at least some00:05:28
political meaning yes they end00:05:30
so he begins to announce Christ00:05:33
thunderstorms someone else there Greenpeace Well, in00:05:36
general, engage in nonsense Why?00:05:37
Because if he comes to his smoking00:05:43
foreign agents are all exposed he00:05:47
will say Thank you Vasya for uh faithful00:05:50
service, he will give him thanks and00:05:53
will be sent to the local place of duty and the00:05:56
colonel will become not the most important00:05:58
now You see, in the hope of becoming a00:06:00
general and he will come back. And he00:06:02
needs it, he doesn’t need it. Therefore, there will be00:06:04
these very uh, agents to look for something00:06:07
blue in the face and of course he will always find it, he will always00:06:10
find it because he needs it,00:06:12
Colonel, he needs it. You see, and00:06:15
accordingly, the committee needs to start00:06:17
violent affairs with crime, they00:06:19
can’t do anything with crime, there are problems with it,00:06:21
but somehow with some criminals it’s00:06:23
not clear what to do with these00:06:25
criminals here and uh against uh the00:06:30
US senator is doing open Well, what’s good is a00:06:33
good thing they’ve opened It’s okay I00:06:37
noticed your column on the00:06:39
new newspaper Europe and which is dedicated00:06:43
but how I projected for myself uh the00:06:45
nursing mother of hatred and hatred00:06:49
is a feeling that is deeply alien to me personally,00:06:52
but you write, write that people love00:06:55
to hate and you politically And you are in this00:07:00
environment where hatred is now born Hmm00:07:03
Well, somehow they cooked Yes,00:07:07
they grew up and today we are in a slightly different00:07:11
environment but nevertheless there seems to be00:07:14
no less hatred coming out of this column or am I00:07:19
misinterpreting this is something00:07:21
else this is a fight for what00:07:25
this is a fight for a00:07:28
fight for a lot of things natural but00:07:31
the problem Well I’m talking Talk about some00:07:36
very harsh00:07:38
statements and feelings within the00:07:41
opposition environment00:07:44
all people which It would seem that it00:07:46
would seem that they are united by a common enemy00:07:50
not an opponent of Russia00:07:54
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[music]00:08:08
here is00:08:09
the favorite national sport throwing00:08:13
ceremony it00:08:14
blossoms simply just so00:08:17
that many of our environment hate each other00:08:21
even more than the path means00:08:24
Why it seems to me because in-00:08:26
they lost the first people lost a partner to00:08:30
the dialogue00:08:31
normal politics in a normal country00:08:33
or even a couple of Normal countries like00:08:35
Russia was uh they can appeal to00:08:39
voters00:08:41
Here guys I'm the coolest vote for00:08:43
me everything will be fine everything will be00:08:45
fine but this can be done when00:08:48
in the country there is a choice Or when it seems to you00:08:51
that it’s like00:08:55
Clearly, no, you can contact citizens,00:08:59
it’s called, for example, at a rally00:09:02
Let’s go to a monument to someone,00:09:07
it’s good,but00:09:12
this can be done when the00:09:15
protests Well, the protests are being dispersed But still,00:09:20
it’s not obvious that a prison is now00:09:22
obvious that any part of the vaccine is a prison It00:09:24
seems to me that now people are being encouraged to go00:09:26
to a rally in Russia where you can only00:09:29
go if you go to it yourself, you00:09:31
yourself will be the first to stand up, so you can say00:09:33
by the way with me you have the right to do this. And00:09:36
if not, in my opinion yes, because people00:09:42
could be imprisoned turn to the authorities00:09:45
while someone at least had the feeling00:09:48
that they were sane, which as they00:09:50
told me when I say that there will00:09:52
definitely be a war before the war, they00:09:55
told me to give it up He’s a fool A fool does00:09:57
n’t eat soap It turned out00:10:00
while we believed that he wasn’t eating You can00:10:03
contact the authorities about something00:10:05
now, too, you can’t tell everyone to00:10:08
each other, no one hears anymore,00:10:10
you understand00:10:17
who was right and wrong when It00:10:19
was always right Yes, you must00:10:22
repent and Understand how wrong you00:10:25
were How it was, how terrible it was00:10:28
here’s one more thing, you understand what00:10:31
this fight is for, here the fight is going on and how to generally00:10:34
prove that you are00:10:36
stronger than other politicians, the00:10:39
best one refuse vote00:10:41
more00:10:43
for you a hundred times less Close the networks00:10:47
quietly tried on People decided so00:10:49
ok often no00:10:54
means00:10:56
when again shares I can withdraw 10000:10:59
thousand for the area And you can 25 people, that’s the00:11:01
difference between us, again,00:11:05
close the cremies and so on, now the fight is00:11:08
not with the voice, not for the people on the street, the fight00:11:12
is for the beasts, in fact, for00:11:14
attention,00:11:16
and for my hair,00:11:23
that means00:11:25
there is attention Western leaders of the00:11:28
Western establishment Well, it’s not that00:11:31
people hope that you will appoint your beloved00:11:33
wife and then you will be00:11:35
the Prime Minister of Russia, but in general,00:11:37
in fact, now they have all the cards,00:11:40
we have them, and the struggle for their attention and00:11:43
this is the struggle It turns out very00:11:45
so competitive It turns out to be00:11:47
zero sum and so on and few people00:11:49
understand that in fact00:11:51
we have common interests common interests00:11:55
for all of us the common interest is to convince00:11:58
the West to do some of the right things00:12:00
if you look at it from the inside00:12:03
because you are Russian politician Yes, and00:12:05
Russian politics has collapsed to the point of00:12:09
discussing how we can resist the00:12:12
enemy, but still in no way does00:12:16
this constitute an example of some kind of00:12:19
positive idea about how to00:12:21
arrange life for those 150 million00:12:24
people who remain inside. And what do they00:12:28
care about the Western establishment? they00:12:30
care about the press Yes, in which00:12:33
this or that appears. Let it be important. Let it be00:12:36
thoughtful. Let it be a meaningful publication00:12:38
that will not be read, unheard,00:12:42
perceived in this dead end.00:12:45
How to get out of Leonid and Klitschko. It seems to me00:12:48
that we should talk00:12:50
about not only negative things00:13:07
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Yes but no longer cares about how life will be lived00:13:19
on, and in this sense, it seems to me that we should00:13:21
say some things very clearly,00:13:25
for example, that00:13:26
Russia is a European power; I am quoting,00:13:31
by the way,00:13:32
Empress Catherine the Great, her letter00:13:35
to the commission, she began with this00:13:38
phrase, Russia is a European power,00:13:41
which means we must to say that we are a European00:13:44
power cannot be said to be European and we00:13:47
must live like Europeans and this means00:13:49
that in the future, in some future,00:13:51
Yes, a New Russia or several states00:13:54
on its territory. I personally think that it will00:13:58
most likely disintegrate. But these00:14:00
New states must be00:14:01
European. basically European, which00:14:04
means they must live in European00:14:06
law, which means that in the future they should00:14:09
strive to join European00:14:11
structures and, tired of the prospect, and00:14:14
become members of European NATO structures, and00:14:17
so on. So I think that this is00:14:20
our normal path, which answers Well,00:14:26
the features answer of our country, you want to be00:14:29
diverse, but please note that00:14:32
throughout all the centuries of its existence, the00:14:34
most active faction of this country,00:14:38
our country, was Western-oriented00:14:41
and the novels were quickly translated. Of course, the different ones00:14:45
were00:14:46
more intelligent and at least the most,00:14:50
and this is what it is next. It00:14:53
seems to me that we we must say that we00:14:56
will never be an empire again. This00:14:58
means that we will not be an empire. These are not00:15:01
just words. This means that we do not promise to00:15:04
say so and we do not want to think wrongly and00:15:07
interfere not only in what is00:15:08
happening outside the00:15:09
borders of today’s recognized00:15:12
borders of Russia, I am not speaking clearly that00:15:15
Crimea is not Russia00:15:16
But that we will not prevent00:15:20
all regions that00:15:22
want to do this from leaving Russia. And it is clear that there will be a00:15:25
region that the Northern Caucasus will want.00:15:28
Yakutia00:15:30
Kaliningrad I must become very Many00:15:32
will want to because it’s too early to be under00:15:36
the puddles00:15:42
But it’s too early to be at the head of the state or00:15:44
later it must turn out to be not a loser. How to00:15:48
take this path? The00:15:50
European path with such quote-unquote00:15:53
Europeans as Prigozhin Strelkov00:15:55
Kadyrov, this series today can be00:15:57
continued right up to those who 15 years00:16:00
ago, well, it seemed so European, you can’t00:16:03
imagine Freedom is better than no freedom00:16:05
and where is it everything now, this is all where you can, here’s00:16:10
how I’ll ask a question to a politician Tell me,00:16:13
what do you see as00:16:16
the possibility of00:16:19
this internal work today Yes, it has disappeared00:16:23
somewhere from the systemic Russian opposition It would00:16:26
seem that A00:16:29
Just Russia and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation LDPR were servile, but00:16:33
today they did not simply merge into00:16:35
one common lump, another slice;00:16:38
regional policy is shifting to some00:16:41
banal things before solving00:16:43
everyday issues. This is important, but is this the00:16:47
very00:16:50
opening through which we are00:16:53
entering the European path and finally,00:16:55
what is the prospect of this policy00:17:00
that you are talking about? said initially those00:17:01
in need of unification around00:17:04
confronting the enemy around whether to00:17:08
unite against the backdrop of some common idea00:17:10
if it is squeezed out of the borders.00:17:18
I don’t have a00:17:20
good answer; I don’t have a joyful00:17:23
answer00:17:24
abroad. I sincerely believe that those people00:17:28
who are unimportant about their own line00:17:30
ended up outside the00:17:32
political prospects in Russia don’t00:17:34
have00:17:36
It seems to me that00:17:38
when there is everyone to object in Russia, then00:17:42
new leaders will appear who have been there00:17:45
all this time, all the time free.00:17:48
But it is00:17:51
there in Russia that00:17:53
I do not believe that any of all those who are00:17:56
today and in plain sight will return00:18:00
as there is a major political00:18:02
figure in Russia of disbelief00:18:05
then What is the function of00:18:08
preserving oneself today? They trust some of00:18:12
them trust our assessments of what is00:18:14
happening in Russia We understand Russia00:18:16
We didn’t study this at school We lived in this00:18:18
so we understand What this says00:18:21
number one number two we must achieve00:18:25
[music]00:18:30
in the 21st century, in relation to many of us00:18:34
now they behave the same way they behaved towards00:18:37
anti-Hitler-00:18:39
minded Germans who fled from the00:18:41
Reich And then they drove in circles and00:18:44
no one accepted and wanted to give anything and so00:18:46
on no It’s true, and there was even a case00:18:49
when they returned to Germany, some kind of horror,00:18:52
in fact, this continues now. Well, of00:18:54
course, another task of ours is00:18:58
preparing for the return among those who have returned, among those00:19:02
who have left now, a very00:19:04
big one wants to return to Russia, so I00:19:07
returned, who just so immediately now I00:19:09
can’t listen You know they’re drawing me right00:19:11
on the border There’s no point in this but00:19:13
someone I won’t know They’re drawing me on00:19:15
the border I’m back I’ll come back home00:19:17
that means we must return and build a00:19:19
new country when he said that they will00:19:21
do this the leaders will be different, the leaders00:19:23
will be different, and the builders will be, we00:19:26
may well be a construction worker. Why not Yes,00:19:28
I’ll go back there, I don’t know, to00:19:31
Moscow State University,00:19:32
they will teach there with great00:19:34
pleasure, and I will sit down. Reasonable,00:19:36
good, you will always understand the00:19:38
necessary things in fact. And there is00:19:41
something else to do, as Vladimir00:19:44
Vladimirovich said, there are three of us00:19:45
now, and this is what we should00:19:49
do as for the people who are there00:19:51
now, and who are there,00:19:54
we need to understand that they cannot have these00:19:58
conversations. Why don’t you vomit Putin, this is00:20:00
either hypocrisy or00:20:03
you just understand idiocy because how can it be00:20:05
curtailed But if a million comes out Well, no00:20:08
[ __ ] Guys, how will this million come out,00:20:10
where will it come from?00:20:11
Please tell me, first of all, a million will be shot00:20:13
on the way so that a million will come to the Kremlin00:20:17
Yes, it must go from the outskirts to In Moscow,00:20:19
on the outskirts of Moscow, they will shoot him, and there is00:20:22
no doubt that for a00:20:24
million to be sent, there must be someone who will00:20:25
organize it. The guys should go out not on00:20:28
Wednesday, not on Friday, but on Thursday, that’s00:20:30
right, the person00:20:32
who will say this should be sitting, who is00:20:33
listening to him I’ll take the first one naturally00:20:35
Well and so on why all this E00:20:38
doesn’t work and Please note that there were no00:20:40
uprisings of people against the Nazis against00:20:43
steel and in the Soviet Union the00:20:45
last rebellion was in 60 in some year00:20:50
[music] the00:20:52
sixties We’re already screwing it up quite a bit in00:20:56
Novocherkassk when the men came out00:20:58
about the injustice there with their salaries00:20:59
came out of the valuable ones came out with portraits00:21:03
of Lenin like this on Bloody Sunday with00:21:06
kharubas for the king and you begin As you yourself00:21:08
shot so I will shoot you00:21:10
nothing in this sense nothing can be done00:21:13
so the task of those who live00:21:16
now are those who lives now in Russia,00:21:17
now the task is also well, how to prepare,00:21:20
they cannot influence this, but they00:21:22
can preserve themselves, you know, I am not a00:21:25
believer, but in the Talmud there is such a00:21:27
wonderful phrase that if you save one00:21:29
life, you will save humanity, so you need to00:21:31
save your immortal soul00:21:33
to remain human This is the task00:21:35
for every normal person, it is very00:21:37
difficult now in Russia because uh00:21:39
they are pressing uh some kind of triumphant malice00:21:43
and so on00:21:45
June 6200:21:48
Novocherkassk shooting00:21:52
Solzhenitsyn’s idea to live, it suddenly00:21:56
gained00:21:58
such strength again So live you won’t lie You don’t00:22:02
take part in this you grandson00:22:04
Tell what’s really going on to your00:22:06
grandson Tell the truth You don’t have a platform00:22:08
It’s clear you can’t at least do this And00:22:11
you will save yourself and you will help him grandson00:22:14
his son to become a man become a00:22:17
man And then when this regime00:22:19
will collapse, it will collapse, but not under our00:22:22
blows, no, but unfortunately, it will collapse then00:22:25
it will become our work. You see,00:22:27
then it will be necessary to make sure that on00:22:29
these ruins that will remain from them,00:22:31
build something normal, they will00:22:33
console it again, it can, it00:22:35
will depend on Look at us, living not00:22:38
by a lie presupposes the formulation of a certain00:22:40
truth, but at least this working00:22:43
model is the truth00:22:45
and with all the argumentation that you are00:22:47
now giving, I will say an unpopular thing.00:22:49
Will the one who returned be understood at this00:22:52
return if00:22:55
today he is in the minds of the00:22:58
majority00:23:00
aggressive majority, driven by00:23:02
propaganda, but one way or another00:23:04
will be perceived as one who, no00:23:07
less than the one who sows00:23:09
fire, offers to put out the fire with gasoline00:23:13
because, well, a weapon is something that shoots, it’s00:23:18
not a popular thing, but it00:23:23
will be so00:23:26
clear that it’s00:23:34
clear that the Ukrainians00:23:52
because our opposition has one00:23:57
terrible feature -00:24:05
it’s arrogance and lack of sympathy00:24:09
for people,00:24:11
when a Russian politician00:24:15
says the word vatniki00:24:20
in his head, but besides sawdust, at least there’s something00:24:24
you say about your fellow citizens, it’s00:24:27
your fellow citizens, it’s not even here, there are no00:24:30
pragmatic things, it’s about feelings,00:24:33
I understand I see very often From our00:24:36
politicians, I see the majority of different emigrants in Russia.00:24:52
Here they are00:24:56
unworthy of our attention00:25:03
and some kind of New life will begin,00:25:14
or as Sobol writes, against which the00:25:16
children of those who left today00:25:20
will study in the same school with the topic Who is00:25:23
now shooting at the trenches in the trenches Ukrainians00:25:26
are correct, moreover, we ourselves studied in the00:25:30
same school with those who are00:25:31
shooting at Ukrainians around us. And where did we00:25:33
come from? Where did they come from? This is our00:25:35
neighbors in the stairwell, this is our00:25:37
Odnoklassniki These are the children of our00:25:39
classmates, these are our people, and here there is00:25:42
such a Linguistic Dispute, is it possible?00:25:44
talk about our army And whose is it? Tell me00:25:46
please, it00:25:48
came and you look all white00:26:03
It’s not yours in Russian they say It00:26:08
seems to me that effective politics is not00:26:12
the foundation of effective politics Of course,00:26:14
effective really effective politics00:26:16
requires as a necessary00:26:19
condition sympathy for people requires00:26:22
sympathy for people it requires00:26:23
identification With people, in no00:26:26
case are they And we are00:26:32
the message of the Apostle Paul the Corinthian00:26:36
If I speak in human tongues or in00:26:39
angelic angelic human tongues but00:26:42
have no love ringing cymbals sounding00:26:45
without love it does not work out we must all00:26:49
people who00:26:51
want to influence the country want to think They00:26:55
will not be able to do this if they do not00:26:58
love this country, it00:27:00
sounds and is not politically sound Yes, but if00:27:04
they do not love people, if they do not00:27:06
sympathize with the people of this country, if they do00:27:09
not see that people, their fellow citizens, will deceive00:27:13
that they will deceive, but in fact, if they00:27:16
see in them everyone who is00:27:18
deceived today by these unfortunate women00:27:20
who Remember for the fur coat there they stood up for the00:27:23
fur coat when they thanked but instead of the murdered00:27:26
husband they00:27:28
thanked those who feel00:27:31
only contempt for these chicks but do not feel00:27:34
sympathy00:27:36
[music]00:27:39
Stay in Europe, don’t come back,00:27:43
nothing will work out how to find this feeling00:27:46
sympathy and love, it seems to me that there is one00:27:50
unifying thing that00:27:52
is common, I don’t know if you will share00:27:54
this feeling with me, both for those who are in00:27:58
Russia and for those outside it,00:28:01
this is the general absence of such a sane,00:28:06
tangible life horizon, it is00:28:09
conditional, but from a psychological point of view00:28:12
view as specialists as a professional00:28:13
in this field, I ask you00:28:17
what stages the00:28:21
human psyche goes through, which is00:28:22
faced with this00:28:25
line of your future, your horizon, going away along Yes,00:28:33
general people try to adapt, an00:28:36
adaptive creature is simply extremely00:28:39
adaptive and people go00:28:43
into private life. They just go into00:28:46
private life. they say get away00:28:48
from me, I have my own garden there, my00:28:51
own family, my00:28:52
own child, and so on, yes. I00:28:56
lived for them, I live with them, I live with them, and so on,00:28:59
and everything else doesn’t interest me, in00:29:01
fact, by the way, this is insane00:29:04
support for Putin’s questions official00:29:07
military operation and other uh madness00:29:09
she is also sure basically00:29:23
Hello Vladimir Vladimirovich00:29:28
people are going into private life hiding00:29:31
now00:29:33
No it has always been like this under any regime under00:29:36
any trade regime under ours and under00:29:38
ours it’s the same in general Of course a person00:29:41
who will show a real perspective is00:29:42
doomed to success, look at it00:29:45
provided that private life provides00:29:48
these boundaries within which you can00:29:50
feel comfortable saying [ __ ] off00:29:53
but at the moment these boundaries are00:29:57
comfortable only Perhaps for the top of the00:30:00
Russian establishment What do you00:30:03
think? Are there certain boundaries that00:30:08
determine Well, let’s put it this00:30:11
way their dependence is the00:30:14
dependence of the political establishment00:30:17
and the ruling elite on some external00:30:21
conditions. This is how these conditions are00:30:23
set today, not for those who left or for those00:30:26
encapsulated in the private world, but for00:30:28
those who live exactly the same as they lived. Well,00:30:31
it’s good that they were included in the sanctions lists,00:30:34
yes, Lord I I look at the statistics on the00:30:36
growth of00:30:38
millionaires, and the00:30:41
trend is about the same as before,00:30:44
nothing has changed for them. But00:30:47
nevertheless, for them, this is the00:30:49
framework that they look at. So everything00:30:52
here is no longer possible, here it must be00:30:55
taken,00:30:57
it seems to me, firstly, that they are basically00:31:00
extremely dissatisfied, as far as I know,00:31:03
as far as I can judge from the contacts00:31:05
that remain for some reason, the00:31:08
Russian elites are extremely dissatisfied with00:31:10
what is happening, it is clear to everyone that00:31:14
Putin’s decision at the beginning of the war was, in terms of00:31:18
tolerance, worse than a crime. It00:31:20
was a mistake. This is in general, in00:31:22
fact It’s completely clear to everyone Yes, now00:31:25
the Question is what has become worse for them,00:31:29
yes, she can’t00:31:32
earn money, maybe even more than00:31:33
before because they were spared from00:31:36
competition There and so on, but it’s not00:31:40
just about making money, there are Crazy people from00:31:42
whom it’s just important to know how much zeros00:31:45
Yes, it’s there,00:31:48
but for most people, money is needed not00:31:53
only for self-esteem, but also in order to00:31:55
spend it;00:31:57
we’ll live the life that we want to00:31:59
live;00:32:00
we want to live; they can’t live; you ca00:32:03
n’t go to your castle in France; let’s go to the00:32:06
vineyards in Italy; they’re vineyards;00:32:10
and you there is no And you can00:32:12
burn your business to fly to Lukashenko or00:32:15
than Kim Jong-un that’s all No one00:32:18
will accept Well and so on, so of course00:32:20
life has become worse besides they are Living00:32:23
people they have living children mistresses uh00:32:26
and so on who They also say Well,00:32:28
what kind of [ __ ] do you understand when00:32:30
you can’t come here You can’t come here and they don’t take you to study00:32:33
and they don’t take you anywhere else and so on,00:32:35
so they are of course not happy00:32:37
Putin’s legitimacy is not based on the fact00:32:41
that Of course not in elections Of course00:32:44
not a mechanism mechanism remained absolutely uh00:32:47
remained such a funny inadequate00:32:50
person uh and he is inadequate Of course00:32:54
to people and his legitimacy is based on the fact that in00:32:58
the Upper there are several thousand who00:33:00
consider him like this00:33:02
Decided so he knows how to solve00:33:06
problems so the office comes to him here00:33:08
he will So this is for you, this is for you all00:33:10
the questions are there are no questions and here00:33:12
to fulfill00:33:13
means and in this sense, he is the most00:33:18
cunning of them, the coolest and this has00:33:22
been the case00:33:23
since February 24 last year00:33:39
every day. He thinks when00:33:43
[music] is00:33:45
profitable for him now or if he has to00:33:48
wait another month there. I think that they00:33:50
look at when they need to jump and00:33:54
how, of course, the closest boyars00:33:57
understand that they can only jump in one00:33:58
way, they must eliminate00:34:02
life,00:34:15
there are golf courses in the Emirates And so00:34:19
on And so on it goes00:34:24
No, calm down,00:34:29
Russia is a European power Russia is a00:34:33
European power and everyone who has achieved00:34:36
success in Russia wants to use this success00:34:39
in Europe, not necessarily00:34:41
only in Europe but in Europe too,00:34:43
so not Dubai and something is not00:34:48
enough00:34:50
Let's look at the near horizon00:34:53
Because this is currently in the00:34:55
field of perspective yes A in the field of reality00:34:59
By the way, regarding reality,00:35:02
responsible00:35:06
persons from the Russian00:35:09
diplomatic circle often use quotes in quotation marks, such a concept as the00:35:11
emerging geopolitical realities,00:35:14
such a formulation arose. What do00:35:17
these realities have to do with today?00:35:19
Sorry for the tautology to00:35:22
reality, this is what we00:35:25
should proceed from they are00:35:29
now guided by these realities00:35:32
and making decisions on behalf of my00:35:34
country,00:35:35
they are unreal00:35:38
They left00:35:46
in the fight for the Mirage that was born in the00:35:50
mind of Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin,00:35:52
this is a world where there is no America, where Russia is the00:35:55
most important and all of00:35:59
his Mirage is his dream, a strange00:36:03
paranoia has arisen dreams,00:36:07
there is a war and it’s impossible to get closer, it’s moving away,00:36:11
it’s moving away and it can’t be, it can’t00:36:17
be00:36:19
closer to reality and really don’t give a damn,00:36:22
just a couple of days ago the Minister, the00:36:24
Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of00:36:26
the Russian Federation, drew out the terms00:36:29
of peace, such conditions can be put forward00:36:32
when your army has surrounded the enemy’s00:36:34
capital and you’re turning to to those00:36:37
surrounded and says So, guys,00:36:38
we can smash everything into dust. Or we can not00:36:43
break it. If you go to this,00:36:46
then this is an adequate conversation, yes, but the00:36:48
reality is not like00:36:50
territorial realities. What do they mean?00:36:53
Kherson was until recently under the00:36:55
control of the Armed Forces of the Russian00:36:57
Federation. Russians need to How00:37:00
to consider this is the reality that was00:37:02
before and after that it is completely incomprehensible,00:37:05
but now I will take Crimea00:37:08
and so on, the only reality00:37:10
that needs to be guided by is00:37:12
now the course of the war, the course of the war is clearly not in their00:37:15
favor, but they do not want to accept it,00:37:19
in fact,00:37:21
neurotic to neurotic refuses the00:37:24
real world in favor of the00:37:26
illusory world or a drug addict refuses the00:37:28
real world in favor of the world and the00:37:30
illusory but here Unfortunately, this00:37:32
neurotic is a drug addict.00:37:35
So no, it has nothing to do with reality00:37:38
at all,00:37:41
I can ask you to comment on00:37:43
such a plot Yes, it also concerns a00:37:46
mirage of the process of its dispersion00:37:49
that you are talking about in the list of agents00:37:52
on Friday there was another addition and the00:37:55
agents have already been mentioned, but among others00:37:57
there was a very interesting character00:37:59
Magomed Gadzhiev, more recently a00:38:02
State Duma deputy of United Russia, today the Dagestan00:38:04
branch expelled him from its ranks00:38:07
for discrediting the party one story I00:38:11
think also a well-known figure from the00:38:14
democratic wing00:38:16
of Dolgoprudny man Boris Nadya00:38:19
Zhdin his name was00:38:20
the day before, speaking on the air of one of the00:38:23
Russian channels, he said that everything needs to be00:38:25
changed, everything needs to be changed,00:38:29
the movement has gone Isn’t that what you are00:38:32
talking about, trivial00:38:46
words not agreed upon yes that is, before00:38:49
words were heard that would not allow00:38:52
re-election, in the context of the past00:38:55
15 months until February 24 last year,00:38:59
these words were not spoken, but now they are00:39:02
being heard.00:39:03
Well, I don’t want to say,00:39:09
I wouldn’t get involved with him.00:39:21
elections which Well, it’s clear how they will be00:39:25
organized, we have experience of how00:39:27
they were organized in the previous 10-1500:39:30
probably even more years, but nevertheless,00:39:33
we have real experience of the elections that took place00:39:35
in Turkey, Erdogan declared himself the00:39:41
winner, the00:39:43
first round was he foreshadowed some the00:39:46
second round demonstrated the struggle, but00:39:49
nevertheless, it would have been with it with Turkey, yes00:39:52
We are not Turks, but Russian Russians,00:39:55
tell me this paternalism Yes,00:39:59
characteristic of both00:40:01
Turkish authoritarianism and Russian00:40:05
authoritarianism, and its nature is Such, after all,00:40:09
everything does not arise out of nowhere00:40:12
it suddenly comes from00:40:15
Oh well, you know, firstly, paternalism00:40:18
is a normal thing00:40:19
and many countries that00:40:22
take steps consider it useful for00:40:24
the development of their country, in fact,00:40:27
without paternalism it doesn’t happen, in fact,00:40:29
the form is important, it is important that it does not become an00:40:33
inhibitory something, it seems to me that00:40:37
Well, I’m a bad expert on Turkey,00:40:43
but00:40:45
it seems to me that something00:40:49
similar happened to Rapardogan. Vladimir00:40:51
Vladimirovich, at some point, he decided to00:40:53
gather Turkish people and00:40:58
create the Ottoman Empire and so on,00:41:00
become an emperor. He also got00:41:03
hit in the head with similar things everywhere and that’s why00:41:06
they are so similar, but Turkey is much00:41:08
more integrated in the world The country00:41:10
Turkey is completely NATO Turkey00:41:15
depends on tourism00:41:17
is important for them00:41:20
Turkey in general00:41:23
than what00:41:27
and that’s why there is such a struggle, in00:41:31
fact in Turkey there is a struggle between the00:41:33
archaic and the modern now and now If you00:41:38
drew attention, the wife of Raj Erdogan,00:41:41
I voted in the elections, was wearing a hijab, but00:41:44
my wife can’t say this with00:41:55
my head. This is really important, and for00:41:59
Erdogan, the most in Turkey,00:42:02
the most isolated areas,00:42:04
evolutionary,00:42:07
and against Erdogan, Istanbul Ankara, the00:42:12
Mediterranean coast,00:42:13
tourist00:42:22
Tell me, but00:42:26
with regards to the European path I here, too,00:42:29
he devoted some time during the week to00:42:31
observing a high-profile meeting of00:42:34
representatives in the field of security; they did not00:42:37
observe; Lavrov00:42:40
Naryshkin Patrushev spoke there and words were spoken,00:42:43
and00:42:45
among other things, Naryshkin, the director of the00:42:48
foreign intelligence service, we all remember him at00:42:50
this Security Council a few days before the00:42:53
declaration of war, he said00:42:55
words, the end of Western countries00:42:57
will be according to their deeds,00:43:01
that is, by and large, he formulates00:43:05
as the maximum of the approved00:43:08
Maxims and obviously the Maxims that will be00:43:11
propagandistically fixed in the heads00:43:13
that the West is an impossible path, you can00:43:17
explain on your fingers why this is a false00:43:21
thesis or why this thesis He allows00:43:24
himself broadcast As in spirit, you do00:43:27
n’t even need to understand this,00:43:31
there is the experience of a variety of countries of00:43:35
various00:43:37
geographies00:43:39
in which00:43:41
the implementation of the00:43:43
implantation of the00:43:45
basic principles of European00:43:47
civilization00:43:58
together with a market economy and00:44:01
free00:44:06
economies,00:44:13
among the00:44:15
most00:44:19
unfortunate00:44:21
in the world you will find countries with a market00:44:26
economy, for example,00:44:27
that is, there are00:44:29
very- very bad, but among successful00:44:32
countries everything is successful, you will not find a market00:44:35
economy without political democracy,00:44:36
change of power, and then this is a00:44:38
necessary condition for success, and you understand,00:44:42
if some principles worked in00:44:44
Mexico, in00:44:47
Hong Kong, in00:44:50
Taiwan, in India, in Japan,00:44:54
in Ghana, then why do they should not work00:44:58
in Russia there was such a00:45:01
very famous American psychologist Abraham Maslova who,00:45:03
when he was a graduate student,00:45:06
got to know himself or something else, I don’t know00:45:08
what. Here are his workers00:45:12
for a long time and said that the main conclusion from00:45:15
his journey is that00:45:18
Indians are people first, then00:45:20
we are Indians first of all, people00:45:22
work for people, they work And for us00:45:25
too, because we are people, and Naryshkin00:45:28
says this Because this is the00:45:35
path for the ruling end of the ruling elite. Not because this path gives privileges to the00:45:37
authorities,00:45:39
self-esteem, and so on. Well, it’s clear that the00:45:44
witness together is Rogozin and Ilona Mask,00:45:47
for example. for example,00:45:51
he can get you with his cockroaches, the00:45:53
guy00:46:01
the day before Putin established the00:46:04
Gagarin Order for achievements in the field of00:46:07
manned space flights. I think,00:46:10
Lord, We are all sent to manned00:46:13
and ultimately space flights, in this00:46:15
sense, everyone who needs to be awarded such an00:46:18
order,00:46:20
there are many things that I would like to talk about00:46:23
I wanted to talk to you, but about your00:46:26
return to Moscow State University. Yes, we are all waiting for this, but00:46:30
they reformatted the00:46:31
education system. I always thought that the key to the00:46:33
success of the education system is its00:46:37
stability and progressive00:46:39
development, and it would seem that they have transferred onto00:46:41
these rails of the Bologna system, bachelor’s00:46:44
degree, postgraduate study, candidate’s degree.00:46:47
doctoral And so on and again it00:46:49
collapses and again we are looking for a way But00:46:53
this is replenishable, you can ride on these slides00:46:55
as you are supposed to00:47:20
Yes, there is absolutely nothing left of it;00:47:25
traces of the war, by the way, are still visible, but00:47:27
nevertheless Well, how do people live in general,00:47:30
human and so on,00:47:34
anything can overgrow in life, I am00:47:37
deeply convinced that relations between00:47:40
people are healing, what a terrible00:47:42
war the00:47:43
Soviet-German war was. Well, nothing has passed there,00:47:46
two or three generations, that we have00:47:47
hatred of the Germans in Russia No, no,00:47:50
absolutely, at least Okay, so far and it’s00:47:52
completely clear it was clear that there was00:47:54
hatred. So I think that with the Ukrainians,00:47:57
by the way, we will come to an agreement someday, someday00:47:59
later, but the00:48:02
education system, you understand,00:48:06
firstly, the new Russian Government00:48:09
will return to a reasonable principle, but00:48:12
will try to return. What is the matter?00:48:13
You know, again, those principles of work00:48:16
all over the world that's the only way to earn money And00:48:18
by the way, a lot was done in00:48:21
the nineties and then a lot of00:48:22
useful things were done, by the way, but00:48:25
besides, it seems to me that education,00:48:29
you know,00:48:32
in two versions, two two things, there is00:48:36
one thing. Let's say, I don't know the00:48:39
restoration of the engineering school which00:48:41
knows how to make a laser For example, I do00:48:44
n’t understand anything about this, I think it’s difficult and it00:48:47
will have to be done with the help of Western00:48:49
colleagues who will come to come to implement00:48:52
something, it00:48:54
will be difficult, it will be a long way00:48:57
until we learn how to do it again, I don’t know how to00:49:01
make cars Well, yes there is another meaning of the word00:49:05
education, education as the formation00:49:07
of a worldview, a worldview that does not00:49:09
allow bombing of Ukraine, understands that00:49:12
hospitals in Ukraine And crime00:49:14
is disgusting There and so on,00:49:15
education that allows you to understand00:49:18
that every person, as it is said in the00:49:21
American Declaration of Independence,00:49:23
God created people equal and from the fact00:49:25
that he there, a different skin color doesn’t mean00:49:27
you have the right that you are superior and it’s better you00:49:29
can discriminate against him there, and so00:49:31
on, he has a lot of eye shape00:49:34
These are the basic things that not a00:49:38
person should have the right to be00:49:40
himself and that’s why I don’t know there you don’t00:49:42
like you sexualists, yes, I like them00:49:43
well, but that doesn’t mean that you can00:49:45
discriminate against them because they are like00:49:48
you. Well, that’s all it means, that’s00:49:52
it, that depends on the people who00:49:54
teach, it depends on the people who00:49:57
teach. You see, that’s when between what00:49:59
I’m an animal or from Moscow State University several years00:50:01
ago with incorrect behavior I told the00:50:05
European university to stay in00:50:07
Ashaninka in Ranhigs Then, when00:50:10
they made me a foreign agent, this also00:50:12
became impossible and I teach at a00:50:14
free university now and they will00:50:18
recommend Well, why not, it’s normal,00:50:20
look, such a very specific environment is developing00:50:23
Roman Silantsev unknown,00:50:26
his name is an Expert who makes an00:50:28
examination of the opened case00:50:31
against Berkovich Piglet,00:50:35
among other things, in his examination he00:50:39
made, Well, in fact,00:50:41
anti-Semitic military language. Tell me, do you00:50:44
think that today’s Russia, against the backdrop of00:50:48
what is happening in Ukraine, is making00:50:52
preparations for inside Also this00:50:55
flame was kindled to the growth of00:50:57
anti-Semitism, of course00:51:00
it’s inevitable Stas it’s inevitable00:51:04
because anti-semitic politics is00:51:07
traditionally like this, it’s not even the consulates of00:51:10
Jews associated with the life of the00:51:13
anti-semitic policy, it’s00:51:16
part of the kind of intellectualism00:51:21
that was perfectly demonstrated by the Companions. It00:51:29
seems to me that the00:51:32
growth of Semitism00:51:35
under this regime is absolutely inevitable, he00:51:39
hates knowledge hates intelligence00:51:41
hates00:51:43
connected with this00:51:45
Jews are sometimes deservedly associated with this00:51:52
and are smart,00:51:54
but in general there is an associative series And00:51:59
therefore they Jews also depend and00:52:01
Please note that Well, okay, there is00:52:03
some Silants00:52:06
unknown to anyone00:52:08
Peter Peter Tolstoy is the entire speaker of the00:52:12
State Duma and no no no no no no not00:52:14
a sparrow uh, so he remember a long time ago00:52:18
said that about those who jumped out with their00:52:21
feet from the borders of Russia, which means they00:52:24
actually made the October Revolution,00:52:26
he said You see, I heard then00:52:29
when he said I heard a00:52:32
conversation between two very respectable people00:52:34
which they accidentally heard, they were00:52:39
just sitting next to me and talking, I didn’t00:52:41
listen, I heard one another, they00:52:44
were so serious, such specific prices,00:52:50
and one asked the other,00:52:57
he said what everyone already knew,00:53:03
they agreed that00:53:08
And when you remember the Syrian calculation is00:53:12
heroic shot down our branched00:53:14
plane, remember there was such a story about00:53:16
plane 15,00:53:18
the Syrian crew by mistake, of course,00:53:21
by mistake, shot it down, killed all 15 offices and00:53:25
then a great idea arose on00:53:27
TV that the Jews were to blame for the00:53:32
Israeli plane, which somehow00:53:35
pretended that it was the Russian00:53:37
plane and the Syrian ones the Syrians, of course,00:53:41
could not help but shoot him down. How, without this, how will00:53:44
everyone understand, and therefore it means the Jews are to blame,00:53:47
and when all this was discussed on00:53:50
TV, I remember I was struck by the00:53:52
wretchedness of the argumentation. It’s always00:53:55
wretched. In such cases, I was struck by00:53:58
Yes, joy which they say,00:54:00
you know, they were finally allowed to say00:54:03
that the Jew is to blame for everything, and they00:54:06
were finally allowed to say it. But before00:54:08
they weren’t allowed, well. No, it’s all there, it’s00:54:11
gurgling, and it’s not a problem of00:54:13
everyday semisism, it’s always been there, it’s00:54:16
not going anywhere, it’s not going anywhere, and it’s00:54:18
little affects the life of the countries because00:54:20
in your case they don’t have much significance.00:54:23
But it’s more serious that anti-Semitism is00:54:26
widespread among some of the Russian00:54:29
Elites of the military sp in the diplomatic There and00:54:34
so on, it’s very widespread and00:54:37
it’s like lava when gurgling lava under a00:54:40
frozen crust it’s in any the moment00:54:42
is ready to break through I think that there are00:54:46
major troubles along this line at 1600:54:48
Unfortunately Leonid I always thought the keys were00:54:50
not to slip But into this00:54:53
abyss you need to cultivate yourself and00:54:56
maintain the significance and meaning of things that do00:55:00
not come, things that cannot be00:55:04
canceled no matter what it is became Yes,00:55:06
no matter what pressure00:55:09
was put on them But in this case I want to00:55:12
talk to ask you the last question00:55:14
regarding the role of00:55:16
paradigmatic figures who are leaving00:55:19
who are leaving Day after day, just the day before00:55:21
Lika Bokov passed away Yes, the nineties of00:55:25
his life passed away Tina Turner left Yesterday I00:55:30
looked at those who are with us at those who00:55:32
still remain and keep us around00:55:35
them, holding us together morally and ethically,00:55:39
whatever Alla Borisovna came to00:55:42
Andrei Vadimchu’s concert in Israel Shevchuk00:55:45
Yes Roizman00:55:48
these are the people They are terrible for the system or00:55:51
they are not terrible for the system but important,00:55:54
first of all, for us, sometimes00:55:57
look at you00:56:02
[music] the00:56:09
guys made excuses, we wanted to put him in prison, we00:56:12
couldn’t put him in prison,00:56:16
in fact, they00:56:20
gave him fear.00:56:24
Why Because00:56:27
the support of the cruiseman is much greater00:56:30
than the support of, say, Volodka Murza00:56:33
or even Navalny, and so on00:56:35
Because the kormuza is supported by the00:56:36
liberal layer in Russia abroad,00:56:39
it supports liberal public00:56:41
opinion in the West, and Vladimir Vladimirovich00:56:42
Putin starts on this from a high Tower on00:56:45
you and me, on our like-minded people in00:56:48
Russia, he doesn’t care about everything And Roysman00:56:51
is supported by the people of Yekaterinburg, the00:56:53
common people, just all the people00:56:55
support everyone00:56:58
supports him, everyone supports Shevchuk, that’s why Shevchuk, when00:57:01
they brought an investigation into whether this is the00:57:02
homeland of the president’s ass, in the end00:57:04
they gave him a fine of 50,000 or00:57:06
why00:57:09
These people are scary These people are scary not00:57:12
only for us They are important and for you it’s00:57:13
scary why they achieved such authority00:57:16
because that Roizman doesn’t separate00:57:19
people, he doesn’t separate people, he never00:57:22
comes to an appointment, that’s what he00:57:24
spends once a week, he doesn’t ask, he doesn’t00:57:27
start, you’re a man, first tell me00:57:30
correctly, I’ll help you, I00:57:32
went wrong, No, he doesn’t ask,00:57:35
he doesn’t ask the person, he it’s just that00:57:37
all his people help him, and when he00:57:39
says that there are more good people than bad people, they00:57:41
probably understand that among the good00:57:44
people there are those who say Crimea is ours00:57:45
and those who are for Putin there and so on, and00:57:48
yet he holds them as his own,00:57:51
you understand? the same thing shevchik Shevchuk00:57:53
when the Chechen war began he was00:57:55
against the war he was against but sang for the00:57:58
wounded soldiers teachers because00:58:01
these are my Soldiers Yes he is against the war he00:58:04
sang for the soldiers This is an extremely00:58:07
important thing we talked about this, for00:58:08
example this is the most important in00:58:11
fact, for us they are important as00:58:14
some kind of moral tuning fork. You see, there00:58:16
were people in my life, there were people00:58:20
who00:58:23
saved me from some bad deeds, I00:58:26
committed, of course, bad deeds, aggression00:58:27
began, but some I didn’t do,00:58:29
let’s join the party didn’t join Although they00:58:32
tried to persuade me a lot and no matter how difficult it was for me00:58:35
not to join, they got a place for me00:58:38
and so on, I refused to00:58:41
publicly refuse in two weeks of defending my00:58:44
dissertation, I had to refuse and00:58:46
so I knew it because I knew that I00:58:48
refused to join the CPSU that means00:58:51
Why was I able to do this because there00:58:53
were several people around me00:58:54
who wouldn’t shake hands with me, so they00:58:57
gave me hands and I couldn’t go for it in The00:59:01
Three Musketeers there is a brilliant scene00:59:03
that shows that Alexandre Dumas00:59:06
was a great writer they’re just00:59:08
words,00:59:13
I invite this D’Artagnan to my place and00:59:17
tell him what00:59:19
happened.00:59:21
And why am I still alive, I defended you, but the meaning00:59:24
was that I didn’t give you up for reprisals,00:59:26
so I offer you the post of lieutenant of00:59:28
my Guards, which means for this you will00:59:30
have this and so on he will survive, he came to00:59:33
Paris to sell his sword and no one else will00:59:35
give except me hypertension What is00:59:37
really high class as a00:59:39
writer D'Artagnan wants to agree00:59:41
he wants to agree he wants to live He00:59:44
wants money He wants Fame career And00:59:47
so on very bad came with00:59:49
the province came to Paris for this,00:59:52
but you don’t remember Why he refused,00:59:55
he refused because he00:59:59
suddenly remembered that at the three exits from the pair of pianos there01:00:02
were his comrades01:00:05
with their comrades who had to01:00:07
recapture the carriage if she was lucky in bed01:00:11
and Dumas stood in front of him and stood his face01:00:14
stayed and he realized that Ottos would not give01:00:17
him his hand and he when there was a choice between01:00:20
life and death in a conversation with the cardinal01:00:23
he said you are the priesthood no I01:00:28
can’t because Athos did not extinguish his hands01:00:31
This is very important Lyudmila Mikhailovna01:00:33
Alekseeva there01:00:35
Raginsky01:00:37
war Nikolaevich is a wonderful person01:00:41
many others Here they are,01:00:45
health. Here I am calling people who01:00:48
were important to me. For me personally,01:00:51
everyone has their own. Naturally,01:00:57
they don’t give us, they don’t allow us to01:01:01
do certain things, and so on,01:01:02
if they are not replaced by someone else,01:01:04
we will lead I feel01:01:07
worse, so I hope that someone01:01:11
will replace them, someone will replace them.01:01:15
We need them very, very much. The main thing is01:01:20
that you also have the desire to give yourself a hand to01:01:23
smile at yourself in the mirror, this is01:01:26
generally the most important thing, this is generally the most01:01:28
important thing. But this, by the way, is already a problem01:01:32
the level of our Freedom in fact01:01:34
because01:01:36
what is the struggle between there on the one hand there is01:01:41
Putin Erdogan there these01:01:45
people and on the other hand01:01:51
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But you have the right to be whether you want it or01:01:57
not they tell us Putin01:02:02
if you are Russian You should be here01:02:06
just like the Russian said in an interview He01:02:10
was asked what he was doing there, do you drink whiskey01:02:13
or cognac, he waved his hands and said01:02:15
What kind of whiskey What kind of whiskey I am a Russian01:02:17
person, I drink vodka, there was an understanding Here, a01:02:20
Russian person should drink vodka, a01:02:21
deep understanding in general, there was a wise01:02:25
person, they01:02:28
tell us if you Orthodox You01:02:31
should be like this if the Jews You should01:02:33
be like this you from all sides they say01:02:35
understand from all sides they say I when01:02:38
I was released from01:02:40
this very special detention center uh unexpectedly01:02:43
completely yes And it was definitely clear that01:02:46
in the morning she was drawing again I was released in the evening01:02:49
she really flew away uh tickets I was in01:02:51
Israel Well, it’s just where you were, you01:02:52
would have flown in, I don’t know01:02:56
Well, because it’s clear While I was sitting01:03:00
there there was a dispute between two departments, I was01:03:02
arrested while I was sitting in the01:03:04
International zone, and the flights were01:03:07
delayed, you know how interesting it was,01:03:08
I’m sitting there, the whole thing was postponed for an hour and a half01:03:11
I understand because of whom it is imposed that01:03:14
they cannot decide for us. Well, that01:03:16
means I flew to Israel and in Israel they01:03:18
told me the same thing, you are obliged. I01:03:21
said there. Listen, I’m in exile.01:03:23
Why do you say that you know a Jew,01:03:26
you came to your homeland You should be01:03:28
happy that you came to your homeland, so01:03:30
I’m telling you guys, why should anyone?01:03:33
Yes, uh, I have great sympathy for Israel,01:03:35
respect, and so on,01:03:37
of course, including because they are Jews,01:03:40
but01:03:42
I don’t have to be happy because that’s the01:03:45
case happened understand we are told01:03:47
what kind of person we should be we are01:03:50
told this all the time we are told every day and01:03:51
these people who speak01:03:54
they They don’t even know where they came from01:03:56
You know that these guys who01:03:59
are called Islamic radicals They killed01:04:01
significantly more Muslims than non-01:04:04
Muslims because they killed all01:04:06
Muslims who did not follow the path of the prophet,01:04:07
he knows01:04:10
that he knows, firstly, he knows what the01:04:12
path of the prophet or Allah is, Putin must01:04:14
go. And besides, he considers himself to have the01:04:16
right to decide to live his own life or life01:04:18
because he did not follow the path of the prophets, and so they01:04:20
kill their people Yes, and Alexander01:04:23
Andreevich Prokhanov if a wonderful01:04:25
Figure, I need ours said For a01:04:27
real Russian, for a Russian01:04:29
person, the state says life is more important01:04:31
I tell him Alexander Andreevich And01:04:33
you asked all the Russians He says No,01:04:35
not all of them, but I know, I say Alexander I01:04:37
know, although if only one I know one01:04:39
Russian person, the state is not more important than01:04:41
life, well, speak Who says this, my01:04:43
wife01:04:45
will01:04:47
know that everything is good, I’m treating well,01:04:49
I’m treating her well Well, why the hell is she01:04:52
Russian married to a Jew Well, they01:04:55
know everything, but from our side we say01:04:58
something else that you can to be the way you01:05:01
want, you decide for yourself you decide01:05:03
what kind of Jew you want to be, for example, I01:05:06
remember how I01:05:08
personally formed this understanding of what it01:05:10
means that I am a Jew. What does this mean for01:05:13
me, despite the fact that I don’t know Hebrew, they01:05:15
keep the Sabbath there and so on, but01:05:18
the less I feel the time, what does this01:05:20
mean to me, what does it mean to be01:05:22
Orthodox, I talked with one01:05:24
Orthodox priest, a very worthy01:05:25
person, and it turned out that he does not01:05:27
keep fasts, the01:05:29
current priest of the Russian01:05:31
Orthodox Church, he does not keep01:05:32
fasts because I think that this is01:05:34
wrong I believe that the Lord01:05:35
will still look into his plate, so you01:05:38
have to live according to some rules and what to01:05:41
eat is not interesting to him, you01:05:44
know, he decided for himself that there is01:05:48
no need to observe fasts, he is a free01:05:51
person, you understand, he is a free person, and01:05:53
here they are trying to do this freedom to take away01:05:55
constantly and tell us what we should01:05:57
be and what we should feel, what we01:06:00
should grieve. What is it about01:06:02
Motorola or some other01:06:03
bandit or something like that, they are01:06:06
always trying to attribute to us01:06:08
the right correct feelings Yes and Putin01:06:11
speaks one on our behalf and he01:06:13
says that we feel he says we01:06:17
could no longer tolerate there something01:06:19
something we have no elections he never01:06:21
asked himself01:06:24
for his own choice I feel all people01:06:27
people this is our country this is our life01:06:32
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Леонид ГОЗМАН - политик и психолог - гость программы «Вдох-Выдох» на канале @khodorkovskylive Принудительные работы за сорванную сирень. Дело за слова - розыск американского сенатора Линдси Грэма. Жизнь в изгнании. Объединение вокруг ненависти и вокруг позитивной идеи. Кто будет определять политику завтрашнего дня в России. Эмигрантская политика и ее влияние на повседневную жизнь. Значение этических фигур в нашей жизни. Выборы в Турции. Эрдоган. Уроки «Трех мушкетеров» Александра Дюма. Кому стоит пожимать руку? Ройзман, Шевчук, Басилашвили. В понедельник 29 мая в 17-00 на канале @khodorkovskylive Таймкоды: 00:00 Начало. Гость — Леонид Гозман 01:10 «Запретили рвать сирень — теперь заживем!» 06:36 Откуда берется ненависть? 12:00 Почему России важно жить, как европейская держава 16:10 Что стало с российской оппозицией и что делать? 22:36 Все россияне разные, но все они — россияне 27:44 «Они понимают, что Путин ведет их в тупик» 34:50 «Сотни тысяч погибли в сражении за недостижимый мираж» 39:17 Как развивается патернализм в современных странах? 42:23 Необходимое условие успеха для страны с рыночной экономикой 46:20 О судьбе системы образования в России и её будущем 50:21 Почему рост антисемитизма неизбежен 54:48 Почему власть боится Ройзмана и почему это важно 01:01:19 Как государство пытается отобрать наши свободы 01:06:32 Конец ============================= Телеграм-канал Станислава Крючкова https://t.me/photoplenka ============================= Михаил ВЕЛЛЕР: Киевская лавра, Ройзман, Московия и Китай https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yonOi1LND74 =========================== Юрий НАУМОВ: Башлачев, Кинчев, Ленинградский рок-клуб https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpO6VftkHL4 ============================ Борис БАРСКИЙ: Маски, Одесса, День театра, Жванецкий https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lMv1_xKkQ8 ============================ Музыковед Михаил КАЗИНИК в программе «ВДОХ-ВЫДОХ»: История, страх и завтрашний день. Чему учит время? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej6ZQll08K8 ============================= Киновед Наум КЛЕЙМАН в программе «ВДОХ-ВЫДОХ»: Исторический шанс, оптимизм и позитивная программа жизни https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMWQoI37xz4 ============================= Поэт Томас ВЕНЦЛОВА в программе «ВДОХ-ВЫДОХ»: Империя и провинция, Пастернак, Ахматова, Бродский, США, эмиграция https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ7T-V4dt4Q ============================= Группа «БЕЛАЯ ГВАРДИЯ» и ЗОЯ ЯЩЕНКО в программе «ВДОХ-ВЫДОХ»: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBWk6lfZfYU =============================
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