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I'm the one
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okay gang it's been uh I I think it's
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hard to say it's been a minute it's been
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a minute more like 12 12 minutes since
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June 29th last time we did a podcast uh
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everybody was out Adam was literally out
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but some of us were out and we're back
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uh and the first podcast we got a
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special guest for you uh someone who if
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you're on social you see her talking
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making her arguments and everybody in
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the market saying you gotta hear what
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she's got to say you got to hear what she's got to say so finally we had a
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chance to have her on the podcast the
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great Lauren chin it's great to have you
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on the podcast I'm so happy to be here
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thank you so much for having me yes of
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course it's a surreal experience thank
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you so much for helping us realize that
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Vinnie took uh honors French honestly we
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didn't know this yeah years ago very
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impressive that you were able to get
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that out so we're going to talk about a
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lot of current events Topics in a minute
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you know you'll make the introduction of
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who you are for some of the people that
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maybe don't know who you are guys we got
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a lot of things to talk about uh Jamie
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Diamond gave a speech this last week in
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an interview that some people said well
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that's guy sounds presidential if you
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haven't seen it we'll play it for you
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even Bill Bill Ackman billionaire said
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huge loss if Jamie Diamond doesn't run
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for president we'll talk about Janet
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yellen's um
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trip to Beijing as well as what happened
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with Trump when he went to UFC and the
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way he shook hands with Joe Rogan a lot
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of people are saying that podcast is
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possibly coming up very soon we'll talk
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about that ramaswani closes in on
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DeSantis As Trump dominates the GOP poll
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this is the hill 14 promises Trump has
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made in his campaign for seconds from
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CNN Maria bartiroma confronts DeSantis
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in on 2024 campaign asking what happened
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to your campaign and his answer and
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laugh reveals a lot and then outside of
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that Joe Biden uh what is the optimal
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time for Biden to drop out it doesn't
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matter what it is whether it's the hill
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whether it's the Atlantic saying step
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aside Joe Biden they want him replaced
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by somebody else will talk about that
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this past uh on 4th of July I don't know
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what you guys were doing but in this one
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house
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I think it's a White House they found
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some white stuff in the white house
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which is kind of weird it's not a
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greenhouse it's a white house so it
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makes sense we're gonna find that Vinnie
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maybe has some insight on what happened
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with uh Hunter Biden there and then
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Zuckerberg and musk are going back and
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forth and I don't know if you saw what
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uh Elon Musk tweeted last night which is
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kind of crazy Rob just told us about it
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maybe we'll show Elon Musk tweet last
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night about him and Zuck Biden uh says
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War would Russia must end before NATO
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can consider membership with Ukraine in
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an interview with your guy I know you
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got some thoughts on that Fareed and
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then we have the movie that came out
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sound of Freedom uh but at the same time
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CNN Talking Heads are now saying that
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this was uh the anti-child sex
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trafficking movie sounds of freedom is
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created out of bogus statistics and Q
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Anon Concepts you have to hear this
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person on CNN talking about it and
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Rolling Stone comes out trashing this
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movie while supporting cuties and at the
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same time time an article comes out a
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couple months ago talking about Rolling
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Stones editor-in-chief spiked reporting
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on friend getting arrested for child
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porn so whereas that's a little bit
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confusing when you're doing something
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anyways we have a lot of things to cover
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here on stories uh but before we get
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started Lauren if you don't mind taking
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a moment and sharing with the audience
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your background sure so I'm currently
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YouTuber content creator uh blazetv host
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TP USA contributor but I started gosh
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what was that seven years ago maybe just
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posting videos on YouTube Just
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anonymously for fun I definitely didn't
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want my face out there at the time
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because I wanted to be able to work
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um which I think I've the ship has
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sailed on me having a job outside of
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what I do now just because of all the
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things that I've said over the years but
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uh what was work so what did you do so I
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was actually doing
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um Human Resources
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HR right one time the company were doing
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HR it was for our consulting company so
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it wasn't really high hiring it was more
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like strategic HR human capital type of
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thing which I I still find interesting
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but it's obviously very different
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um and especially I'm not necessarily
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politically correct so when people hear
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that they're like really HR it's like
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not the type you're thinking of yeah I
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mean I wouldn't be the type to write
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anybody up but uh I'm a young woman and
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I was just kind of feeling like my peers
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especially were having one very very uh
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specific Viewpoint radical feminism
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shoved down their throats and I felt
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like it just wasn't representative of
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not only myself but a lot of a lot of
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people out there so what's interesting
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that you bring that up is that you're
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saying that you were started doing these
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videos uh anonymously yes and you didn't
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want to be known for this this is this
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actually very indicative of the the
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Tweet you just did a couple days ago
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about well yesterday I believe when you
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were in the Bahamas basically saying
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that people successful people people
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have made it in their life don't want to
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basically put their stuff out there
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explain that by the way it's funny you
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say this why why do you think people are
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so scared to you know share their
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opinion what do you think is causing
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this fear I mean I'll give my story of A
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guy by the way you should have met These
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Guys these are your kind of guys but why
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do you think people conservative
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Christians great guys they were Persian
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Jews from New York oh wow who knew how
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to party right this is yeah
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so why do you think people are scared
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nowadays well I mean it's it's canceled
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culture and it's kind of it's been done
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to death the issue everyone knows it's
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real now but I mean years and years ago
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people were starting to realize that it
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was it was a thing I mean you have your
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social officer that you can be socially
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ostracized if you have the wrong opinion
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this is especially true if you are a
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younger generation I mean your peers are
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being indoctrinated almost non-stop from
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I mean the education system especially
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if they're going to a college media
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social media so I think a lot of people
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they're you know they're looking at what
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happens when someone gets labeled or
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racist or Sexes or whatever it is and
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they're kind of weighing is it worth
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kind of speaking out if it means that
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I'm going to lose my friend group and I
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have had friends who are I guess no
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longer friends because of my beliefs is
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it worth being fired or having my job
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prospects I guess limited just to speak
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out about these issues that I think a
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lot of people are saying no not not
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really I'll just I'll just keep my mouth
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shut I'll just kind of go with the flow
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but we see where that's gotten us over
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the past few years let me ask you who
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were you in high school like 10th grade
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11th grade who who was Lauren Shannon
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High School uh quiet I was in the math
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club uh played the flute and violin so
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just a happening person
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so so it's fair to say you were not part
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of the party animal getting hammered
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actually I skipped 10th grade also that
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sounds great that should give you a
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little bit of an indication of what my
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Social Circle was got it so were you
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like a 4.3 GPA painfully Asian yes
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really okay shout out to the tiger moms
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that was not the first grade I skipped
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either so really I also skipped nine so
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how old were you when you graduated from
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high school nine years old I didn't
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technically graduate high high school
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because I was going back and forth
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through Canadian and American systems
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but I finished with my bachelor's when I
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was 20. so you finish with your
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bachelor's when you were 20. yeah I love
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I haven't bragged about high school for
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so long this is specifically impressive
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man yeah and you said you said earlier
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nobody ever even offered you drugs like
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people looked at you and they're like
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nope she ain't cool enough she ain't
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doing blocks nothing no no she's up so
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the reason why I asked that question
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from is the following reason so normally
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in school you know who certain people
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are and everyone's gonna find each other
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the party people are going to find each
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other the complainer is going to find
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each other the gangsters are going to
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find each other the bodybuilders are
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going to find each other the athletes
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are going to find each other the
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Christians are going to find each other
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everybody finds each other right so if
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if you were who you were in high school
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your friends that all of a sudden are
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saying well Lauren you know you're being
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a little too extreme with the stuff that
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you're saying seven years ago was it a
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surprise to them that your opinions were
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what they were I think so because if
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especially if we're talking about women
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women have the tendency to be very
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agreeable and I think if when you're
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taking a position that's going against
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the mainstream which if you are at all
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Center even Center left nowadays is
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considered Fringe or extreme that is an
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unpopular position that is
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anti-establishment and I think a lot of
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women especially like the nice girls
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that I was hanging out with I never
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would have thought of them as extreme or
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radical but I think because they are so
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prone to that agreeableness as Jordan
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Peterson would say it's just a lot
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easier to go with it to accept it
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especially when you have these activists
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that are painting things like extreme
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feminism or the LGBT agenda as just
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being tolerant and accepting they're
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going to look at anyone who speaks out
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against that as extreme confrontational
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bigoted you name it yeah it's it's crazy
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you say that so we're in Bahamas this
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last weekend we took a couple hundred
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people there Vinnie one night we laughed
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you made us laugh for three hours
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straight I had an ab workout by the time
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we were done that night well we walk out
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of this restaurant and this one guy
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comes he says you're the Twitter guy
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another guy comes he says you're a tick
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tock I'm like I'm the tick tock guy I
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don't even know you know so but the
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Twitter guy that I'm talking to I said
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tell me why you're seen on the Twitter
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guy so I see your Twitch he said you
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should have me on your podcast the guy
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says this to me good looking you know
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Middle Eastern Jewish one of fifty
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thousand dollar watch and he says you
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should have me on the podcast because we
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can we agree on a lot of things I'd love
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to kind of tell them what's really going
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so why don't you have a podcast he says
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oh no no I can't have a podcast so why
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can't you have a podcast he says well
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you know because you know business it's
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going to affect us I said you're the
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problem you're the reason why America is
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where it's at you are the absolute
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problem and he grabs his wife wife comes
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over these other two guys come over
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every one of them's uh listens to you so
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they know content what we're doing all
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this stuff yeah he is he's a fuzzy you
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know he's scared he's this he's that his
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friend is now joking with them so I sat
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there and I said so what are you scared
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of tell me actually what you're scared
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of he says well what what do I do I mean
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if I do in New York I'm in New York you
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know if I say anything you know we're
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gonna do this and they're gonna do this
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and they're gonna do that that's exactly
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the issue okay the three communities
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that I keep telling I had a great
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conversation with Dave Smith last week
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we a phenomenal call together about the
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three communities the lazy and scared
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Republicans are ruining America the do
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your thing Libertarians are ruining
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America and the tolerant Christians are
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ruining America these three communities
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are all generally net positives to
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society they contribute to society they
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don't take but they're ruining America
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because they're sitting there saying I
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don't want to kind of give my name
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called that I'd write about just be
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quiet and not say anything about it
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because what if I the guy's like what my
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real estate business could take a hit I
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said your country could take a hit your
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kids could take a hit you're worried
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about the real estate business but then
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again it's a real valid fear that a lot
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of people are having nowadays but even a
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guy asked a question on the Tweet he
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says Pat I'm an executive if you go to
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it go to the other tweet prior to this
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because this is a different tweet go
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back one guy asks a question
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go go a little lower I think it's that
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one right there yeah guy asked the
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question go to the bottom on when the
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guy asks the question right there my
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response to him he says Pat I saw your
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thoughts on a podcast podcast and
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completely agree however it is a risk
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for many of us to speak up we have
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bosses who don't agree with us and bills
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to pay what do you recommend to come
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combat that I said I totally understand
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there's risk for speaking out but
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there's risk for staying silent is much
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bigger however there are creative ways
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for doing it if you want to click on
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show more you can create a pseudo name
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to write blogs a fictional character a
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burner account that speaks up a
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community Twitter account that uh
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without revealing it you kind of like
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lips up Tick Tock there are many ways to
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push the envelope the only thing I
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discourage you from doing is staying
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silent so that's kind of what you're
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talking about yeah absolutely and when I
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finally did reveal my face and
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eventually my name it was almost it was
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freeing honestly it was you it's sort of
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scary because you know all right I can't
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really work a mainstream job in HR if
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people at my Wiki page is calling me a
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white supremacist and you know all these
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Terror Terrible Things white
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supremacists yeah yeah I'm a white
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supremacy is very multiracial nowadays
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surprisingly diverse Bunch those oh yeah
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working out now apparently if you work
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out too much well yeah but you know you
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know what you actually Pat left out uh a
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part not only were we at a dinner for
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three and a half hours and we came out
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that that interaction with this group
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with especially with this guy was like a
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10 to 15 minute situation where he not
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didn't call them out I mean like an
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audience it was like a town hall in the
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casino and it was Pat wasn't being quiet
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he was going in on him he was seeing the
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light and then his friends were showing
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up other people were showing up
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recognizing Pat and I think calling
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people out Pat was was not only like a
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good thing we need more people like that
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who mind you he has kids in the room he
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has enough crap going on where taking
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that time out in the middle of a casino
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on vacation to base I mean so Pat it was
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pretty loud like I think we need more of
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that where it's like Hey listen you're
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not doing your part you're all freaking
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valid concern it's a
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so one we have to understand the level
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of like a guy calls from Hollywood
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saying hey Pat I fully agree with what
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you're doing obviously I can't talk
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about it because if I do my community
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I'm going to get hurt I said okay
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courier-wise that's okay he says what
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should I do I said do you have a few
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money if you're in Hollywood I don't I
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said what matters more to you is this a
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bigger cause in your life than your love
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for Hollywood he says that's something I
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got to battle with I said I totally get
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it you got to do what you got to do but
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nowadays the movie sound of Freedom
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which we'll talk about here in a minute
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but I think you want to say something no
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well I just want to give you Kudos but
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also kind of give a little I don't want
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to say pushback but there's a different
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perspective so I fully agree with what
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you're saying here about
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um creating a pseudonym or even if you
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don't feel comfortable putting yourself
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out there there are Avenues to express
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yourself no doubt I would say one of the
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things I love about doing this is I get
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to talk my [ __ ] right or wrong I get to
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learn I get to grow I get to express
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myself that's the beauty of doing
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podcasts what's interesting so as I did
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a minute call shout out to the team at
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my neck everything's going awesome there
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I mean the the guys I'm speaking with
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Garage on 300 menex by the way thank you
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it's great it's amazing connect with us
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on the next pbd Vincent myself we'll
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sign you up Lauren but I have a call
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with this guy in minute and the whole
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conversation was he was like my business
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has taken a 50
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drop because I express myself too much
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I'd like to discuss with this is the
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question I'd like to discuss with you on
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manect what you think I should do I said
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all right we get on a call it's a half
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hour call I'm not going to put his name
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or anything out there I said so tell me
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about your business well I'm in San
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Francisco I'm in the medical field and I
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work with a lot of high profile people I
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mean he said some names when I say high
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profile I mean very high profile like
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you'll know the names and he goes you
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know I'm a a right center right guy I'm
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a Maga guy I'm a trump guy whatever and
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he goes I in the medical field I'm
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making a half a million dollars easily
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and in the last year my business has
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taken a 50 hit he's like and now I'm
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making a quarter million dollars a year
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just because the people that I surround
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myself with caught wind of my political
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beliefs
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and they've like one two three
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the names went out there it's a valid
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question and I said and I was like Wow
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let me process this with you and I said
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let me ask you something bro do you have
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any political aspirations no
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do you have any interest in doing a
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podcast or anything like that zero I go
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then why are you pushing the envelope so
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much because it's costing you a quarter
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million dollars a year
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because that's exactly what I'm
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grappling with right now I want to say
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what's on my mind
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but it's literally costing me hundreds
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of thousands of dollars I go but hold on
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back up a second where do you live San
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Francisco that's the problem are you
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planning on moving your business at all
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no like this is where I'm at I go then I
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don't know what you want me to tell you
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bro but is
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voicing your opinion worth a quarter
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million dollars a year only you can
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answer that he goes yeah not not really
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but I'm glad this is circling back I'm
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glad that you brought up alternative
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options that people can do yes it's sad
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that if you express your thoughts and
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your beliefs you could literally get
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canceled or lose clients or lose jobs or
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lose money but that's the risk that
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we're at these days but I is it sad
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though because that's where I'm at I
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mean obviously I'm speaking from a
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position of privilege where I get to
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like you said speak my mind and I have
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people who support me but if you're in
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this position do you want clients who
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would otherwise hate your guts if they
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knew what you actually believed do you
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want to work for someone who thinks that
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you're this terrible person who's
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destroying the country do you want
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friends who are only your friends
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because they actually agree with you
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because there are rich clients this guy
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could have in Nashville in in Florida he
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doesn't have to be there and likewise if
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you are someone who's wanting to do
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something to contribute to I don't know
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a little bit of the normalization of
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politically
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uncomfortable ideas we should all be
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investing and spending money with people
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who share our values we should stop
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supporting financially people who hate
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us or who are trying to trans our kids
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like with Target or Bud Light because I
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think what we're finding increasingly is
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that for the longest time things have
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only gone one way it's only people who
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are against the left that are afraid to
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speak out the left doesn't have that
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same shame you have celebrities who will
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tweet the most radically left-wing
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things imaginable they're still in
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movies they're still in Disney and
00:18:01
Marvel whatever but I mean someone like
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Gina Carano says something that could
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potentially be a little bit critical of
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I think was covid stuff she's fired
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immediately is that fair no that's not
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fair so we need to start I mean
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enforcing the fact that we have our own
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values we're not going to be ashamed of
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them we're going to support people with
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like Minds if that means moving maybe
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that that's what you have to do so many
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people are doing that now because I
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think a lot of people are just tired of
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being afraid all the time
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by the way it's a very valid
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conversation a lot of people are having
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it that's great feedback but uh you know
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there's there's a couple things to be
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thinking about
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so one is like okay so if I'm work if
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I'm living in San Francisco and I want
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to stay there like this guy wants for
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some reason yeah
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yeah okay but but species in the street
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it's quaint yeah very Queens very
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romantic amazing when you're going out
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with your wife and oh baby I stepped in
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the water beautiful okay I guess to be
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clear he's in Silicon Valley which is
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what still a half hour outside
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Silicon Valley I got you so so you know
00:19:01
so so to so to go through this he's
00:19:03
right it is a deeply concerning thing
00:19:06
but by the way that doesn't mean that's
00:19:09
not the reason why America is in
00:19:11
shambles today that also doesn't mean
00:19:12
that it means guys like him who are
00:19:15
afraid to address conversations like
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this are the reason why the other side
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is able to get so much agenda so the
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whole concept is what are we intolerant
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towards again I pray for four things
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courage wisdom tolerance understanding
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I'm having a hard time with the third
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one right because it's me tolerance I
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have a hard time Donald's right and then
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you see Dave Smith it tells me about a
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quote by uh uh Von mises he says can you
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pull up the the tweet that I just the
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Tweet right there that you had go back
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to and go all the way to the top of the
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Tweet not that one the other one gold
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way to the top of the Tweet yeah right
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there if you can uh there's a quote
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right there that says uh right there
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classic liberalism must be intolerant of
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every sort of intolerance I I have to I
00:20:03
have to tell you I've been grappling
00:20:04
with many different words in my life you
00:20:06
know why are we lazy I finally realize
00:20:09
why people are lazy your life is boring
00:20:10
when we're bored we are lazy so you
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don't want to have a boring life make
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your life exciting by constantly having
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stuff to do so these things you ask
00:20:17
questions of right this one here you
00:20:19
have to be tolerant Christians we got to
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be tolerant [ __ ] you can't be
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tolerant towards intolerance if you're
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going to be intolerant to me who the
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hell are you two thinking I'm gonna sit
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there and take it from you so so the the
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concept of intolerance we must be
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intolerant to intolerance even for some
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of the Christian Community on the bottom
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where it says your eyes are too pure to
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look on evil you cannot tolerate wrong
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doing why then do you tolerate the
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treacherous why are you silent with the
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wicked swallow up the more righteous
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than themselves the whole thing is
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talking about is why are you letting
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these Wicked people take advantage of
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weak people I'm standing in the streets
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I see a person being bullied I can't do
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something about it no no no I don't want
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to ruin my career because what if I save
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that lady and then the cop comes and
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arrests me so let him be to beat the
00:21:01
wife up it's okay I'm just gonna mind my
00:21:03
own business that's a coward in in a way
00:21:05
right I don't think tolerance is a
00:21:07
virtue at all actually it is certainly
00:21:09
not a Christian virtue if you look at
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the New Testament you don't really see
00:21:13
Christ saying it's okay I'm just going
00:21:15
to accept this no he speaks his mind he
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makes a very clear delineation between
00:21:18
right and wrong god of the Old Testament
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certainly not one for tolerance so the
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idea that this is a virtue something we
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should strive toward I I disagree and
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it's the same thing with blanket
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Concepts like diversity we're supposed
00:21:30
to believe tolerance is inherently good
00:21:32
diversity is inherently good just
00:21:34
because but no they've provided no more
00:21:36
moral framework as to why those things
00:21:38
should be something we strive for we're
00:21:40
supposed to just accept it without
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question yeah no I agree with that well
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actually nailed it because think about
00:21:45
it the left the other side does not give
00:21:47
a damn they're not they don't give and
00:21:49
nothing happens to them so Pat and I'm
00:21:52
and I've always said this it's time for
00:21:54
us to be like you know what enough is
00:21:55
enough open your mouth if you have to
00:21:58
punch people in the face I mean they're
00:21:59
doing it what do we guess what we're
00:22:01
supposed to just sit back and just and
00:22:02
take it I have one thing to say about
00:22:04
that so here's here's a part is it fair
00:22:06
to say there's certain people in America
00:22:08
that they're gonna vote Democrat even if
00:22:11
your argument makes sense they're never
00:22:12
going 100
00:22:13
is it fair to say there's certain people
00:22:16
in America they're going to vote Republican no matter what you can't say
00:22:18
anything to them 100 okay so the the
00:22:20
truth is right for both sides okay so
00:22:23
who are we really trying to talk to that
00:22:26
becomes a question the independence if
00:22:28
you're trying to talk to the undecided
00:22:30
the independent the libertarian the
00:22:34
green whatever the community that's in
00:22:36
the middle of the 12 percent you have to
00:22:38
figure out how to communicate with them
00:22:40
so if this guy's talking about this I
00:22:42
know a lot of people that will come and
00:22:43
say well let me tell you something you
00:22:45
know skill residential yeah you're not
00:22:47
converting anybody the ability to
00:22:50
communicate a message as well to
00:22:51
somebody who's saying I never thought
00:22:52
about it thought about that before you
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can do it simply by questioning you can
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do it simply by saying you know what
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John I don't know if public school was
00:23:00
like this when you and I went to public
00:23:01
was it like this before I just don't
00:23:03
remember being like this the other day
00:23:05
my kid went to school and they did this
00:23:06
what do you think about it that is a
00:23:08
very open you know you're not bashing
00:23:11
anybody to start a conversation and the
00:23:13
other person can say yeah you know what
00:23:14
my wife was saying the same thing the
00:23:15
same thing happened with us the other
00:23:16
day you know kids going to school I
00:23:18
thought that was kind of weird I'm a
00:23:19
Democrat I'm like why'd I do that it's a
00:23:21
little bit concerning I'm starting to
00:23:22
hear this and those are the words hey
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don't you think it's kind of weird like
00:23:25
look I don't mind taking a vaccine I've
00:23:26
taken a ton of vaccines but don't you
00:23:28
think it's a little bit weird that you
00:23:30
know they want pro-choice to do whatever
00:23:34
I want to do with my body which fine
00:23:35
that's a interesting argument I get that
00:23:37
as a person that wants to do whatever
00:23:39
they want to do with their body but
00:23:41
isn't it kind of weird that they want to
00:23:43
be pro-choice there but they want to be
00:23:44
Pro Force when it comes down to the
00:23:45
vaccine it's a little weird ain't it
00:23:47
it's a way you open up the conversation
00:23:49
at workplace instead of just saying
00:23:51
these morons these [ __ ] as well
00:23:52
done that's that's also not going to
00:23:54
work so a part of your friend that you
00:23:56
spoke to on the neck could also be the
00:23:58
delivery of the message the delivery of
00:24:01
the message is just as important
00:24:03
um if not even more important than the
00:24:06
point you're trying to make you may be
00:24:07
right
00:24:09
but your delivery is so bad that you
00:24:11
push the person away from whatever
00:24:13
argument you're trying to make to them
00:24:15
there's a lot of people
00:24:17
on social media and I'll push back on
00:24:19
your uh what you just said a little bit
00:24:21
on one of the points it's easy for us to
00:24:23
just go hang out with each other where
00:24:25
we agree with each other it's very safe
00:24:26
to do that you ain't doing nothing
00:24:28
special you're not doing what these
00:24:30
great leaders did in the past we're just
00:24:32
sitting there talking to each other and
00:24:33
we all agree hey let's just go talk to
00:24:34
people hey Pat why don't you come on
00:24:36
this platform everybody agrees with you
00:24:38
I don't want to go to a platform where
00:24:39
everybody agrees with me I want to go on
00:24:41
a platform where people don't agree with
00:24:42
me I want people to stop me in the
00:24:44
middle of the street and say you know
00:24:45
what I don't agree with what you said
00:24:46
about this this I said really I don't
00:24:48
agree with myself also sometimes tell me
00:24:50
what it was about that upset you and
00:24:51
let's process it together I think you we
00:24:54
have to almost have some of those tough
00:24:57
conversations do something with it try
00:25:01
to figure out a way to persuade then if
00:25:03
we don't succeed then we got to take a
00:25:05
different route but I do think we have
00:25:06
to talk to the opposition side instead
00:25:09
of just people that agree with us you
00:25:10
can be a very good person that can find
00:25:12
your own audience there's two types of
00:25:14
people there's those who are going to go
00:25:16
give such a great message bashing the
00:25:18
other side so much that the people that
00:25:20
agree with this person show up but but
00:25:22
they don't convert then there's another
00:25:24
person that's going to say let me tell
00:25:26
you my way of how I see this here and
00:25:29
this is how I evolved into thinking this
00:25:31
way and then the other people say that
00:25:33
guy just converted me into a thinking
00:25:34
like that so this guy finds a community
00:25:36
this guy goes and converts people we
00:25:38
need more converters in America that's
00:25:39
what's lacking there are too many
00:25:41
cowards that are running away just to
00:25:43
talk to people that agree with them and
00:25:45
it's safe we need more Fighters that's
00:25:47
the challenge that we're having right
00:25:48
now so when that guy's saying what he's
00:25:50
saying I don't blame him for feeling
00:25:52
that way maybe he's got to take a couple
00:25:53
communication courses well I fully agree
00:25:56
with what you're saying and that the
00:25:57
term that we've all heard over the last
00:25:58
half of years is people are living in
00:26:00
Echo Chambers it's if you're on the left
00:26:02
you're just speaking to all your friends
00:26:04
in the left and that's who you associate
00:26:05
with and you're living your Echo chamber
00:26:07
if you're on the right you don't even
00:26:08
all the libtards out there I would never
00:26:10
hang out with anyone on the left all
00:26:12
their [ __ ] evil out there they're
00:26:14
just living in an echo chamber what I
00:26:16
fully appreciate is open dialogue and I
00:26:18
the fact that you constantly say I'm
00:26:21
going to push back a little bit I'm
00:26:22
gonna push back a bit that pushback
00:26:25
right there is where you find answers
00:26:27
although I will that right there is
00:26:28
where you find actually Common Ground I
00:26:30
mean speaking of push back a little bit
00:26:32
uh Jonathan high he did this really
00:26:33
interesting study the idea of echo
00:26:35
Chambers conservatives consistently are
00:26:37
better able to identify what the left
00:26:39
believes in vice versa right because
00:26:41
it's frankly a little bit hard to live
00:26:43
in an echo chamber if you are right wing
00:26:45
nowadays right your your government is
00:26:47
left-wing your media is left-wing Your
00:26:49
Entertainment is left-wing your
00:26:50
schooling is left wing so I mean
00:26:52
obviously especially if you're in social
00:26:53
media and your friend group that could
00:26:55
absolutely be just full of conservatives
00:26:57
right-wingers you don't have any
00:26:59
exposure to actual leftists but you're
00:27:01
not going to get the same amount of
00:27:03
ideological Purity that you can on the
00:27:05
left and I think that is why the left
00:27:07
more so than the right has been
00:27:08
radicalized and that we can see this
00:27:10
when we look at like the positioning of
00:27:12
the democratic party over the past few
00:27:14
decades that has shifted much further
00:27:16
right compared to sorry much further
00:27:18
left compared to any transformation
00:27:19
that's happened I actually fully agree
00:27:21
with you can I Circle back to one thing
00:27:23
because we kind of skipped over it
00:27:25
you we kind of just addressed it and
00:27:27
then we moved on this whole concept of
00:27:29
tolerance pbd for years you've been
00:27:33
saying that your family abides by four
00:27:35
overriding principles what are they
00:27:37
again courage wisdom tolerance
00:27:38
understanding okay courage wisdom
00:27:41
tolerance understanding this isn't
00:27:42
something you just came up with this
00:27:44
week this month this year how many years
00:27:45
have you been saying that
00:27:47
15 years okay and you have a whole
00:27:49
artwork yes embraced on this yes and I
00:27:51
fully understand why you're saying that
00:27:53
you're grappling with this word
00:27:54
tolerance because it's come up so much
00:27:57
these days hey you got to be tolerant
00:27:58
you got to be tolerant whereas when you
00:28:00
initiated this entire uh
00:28:03
livelihood tolerance was a virtue
00:28:06
tolerance was the main what's the
00:28:08
definition of Tolerance willingness to
00:28:09
accept feelings habits or beliefs that
00:28:11
are different from your own right are
00:28:13
there some synonyms endurance resilience
00:28:16
being open-minded but it comes to an
00:28:18
extent we had when we did the interview
00:28:19
with Tate in Romania
00:28:21
when he basically went on a riff about
00:28:23
tolerance tolerance of what all right
00:28:25
okay I'll be tolerance of this okay gays
00:28:27
can get married all right I'm tolerant
00:28:28
of this all right I'm telling you that
00:28:30
and then you can't kind of use the story
00:28:31
about all right now I gotta eat the bugs
00:28:33
now I gotta be tolerant of eating the
00:28:35
bugs where do we draw the line and I
00:28:36
think that's we're at an inflection
00:28:38
point of like all right cool I'm
00:28:40
tolerant about this all right cool I'm
00:28:41
tolerant about this yeah I don't know
00:28:43
about these drag shows with kids I I
00:28:46
think not tolerant about that I still I
00:28:48
still think it's a good quality I don't
00:28:50
think it's a bad quality I think you
00:28:51
have to uh isolate in what areas
00:28:54
tolerance is bad we can be easy to jump
00:28:57
to one side or the other I got four kids
00:28:58
trust me you need tolerance I run a
00:29:01
business with 45 000 insurance agents in
00:29:04
you know 49 states trust me you need
00:29:07
tolerance when you're working with
00:29:08
people that are going through the
00:29:09
evolution of growing their mindset and
00:29:11
all this other stuff if you don't have
00:29:13
it if you don't have tolerance you would
00:29:14
fire a hundred percent of people you
00:29:17
hire you need a level of Tolerance what
00:29:19
I believe we need a level of in
00:29:21
intolerance towards is towards
00:29:24
intolerance meaning
00:29:26
the people I have the easiest time
00:29:28
working with or Community like for
00:29:30
example Chris Cuomo and I were talking
00:29:31
yesterday
00:29:32
and he says Pat why do you want me on
00:29:35
your show like dude I'm not I don't look
00:29:38
like the profile of people who have you
00:29:39
owners just to be clear you're talking
00:29:41
about the CNN anchor yeah
00:29:43
I said what do you mean it's a very
00:29:45
simple question for me I said first of
00:29:47
all I have a lot of respect for any man
00:29:50
who raises two boys who love each other
00:29:54
and are friends and are laughing and
00:29:57
your father did that and when I see you
00:30:00
and Andrew I got two boys I want my boys
00:30:02
to be it doesn't I don't have to only
00:30:04
look at conservative two sons to see how
00:30:06
close they are it doesn't matter what it
00:30:07
is I respect the fact that you guys are
00:30:09
tied you guys are close I see you as a
00:30:11
stud obviously we have opposing
00:30:13
political ideas and philosophies but
00:30:15
that's where we can have the exchange I
00:30:17
think you are respectful and we can have
00:30:19
a respectful conversation together if
00:30:21
people can reason we can have exchange
00:30:24
the people you shouldn't waste your time
00:30:26
talking to are the people who don't have
00:30:29
the ability to reason that's when you're
00:30:31
wasting your time this is why I said the
00:30:33
people that can be converted or are open
00:30:36
let's talk the people that are not going
00:30:38
to listen to any like Keith olberman
00:30:40
what is the conversation with Keith
00:30:41
Urban going to be because there's no
00:30:43
there's not going to be conversation
00:30:44
it's just going to be you're a [ __ ]
00:30:46
you're a this you're gonna gotta go home
00:30:47
buddy it's not gonna work out this is
00:30:49
not what this is all about so that's all
00:30:50
I'm talking about with tolerance and
00:30:51
intolerance if I could offer perhaps The
00:30:54
Virtue you're seeing intolerance there
00:30:56
in tolerance not in intolerance there uh
00:30:59
isn't actually tolerance itself but
00:31:00
understanding because I feel like if you
00:31:02
can understand where someone is coming
00:31:04
from well that should be the defining
00:31:05
characteristic of whether you accept
00:31:07
them or not the issue of employees for
00:31:09
example is it really that you have to be
00:31:11
tolerant or that you need to be
00:31:12
understanding of different scenarios and
00:31:13
if a scenario still equals them being an
00:31:17
effective employee you're not going to
00:31:18
tolerate that no you have to no you know
00:31:21
no no
00:31:22
F2 in sales you if if you think I woke
00:31:28
up day one and I was the number one
00:31:30
sales person in my gym or office or
00:31:33
insurance company that would be the
00:31:35
biggest lie somebody was very tolerant
00:31:37
with my evolution of improving because
00:31:40
they believed in me that's a different
00:31:42
kind of Tolerance I tolerate Vinnie when
00:31:45
we first had him on the podcast no joke
00:31:47
you know I had a conversation with it
00:31:49
and I said Vinnie here's what we got to
00:31:51
work on and this and even with Adam I
00:31:53
Adam and I at the first podcast versus
00:31:56
today it's a very different thing but I
00:31:58
said is that because you understood that
00:31:59
they were new that they were trying to
00:32:00
grow and that this was not their final
00:32:02
evolution no I think tolerance is a very
00:32:04
good quality people
00:32:07
people who are tolerant to areas where
00:32:10
they believed something can improve in
00:32:12
areas that I'm not going to be tolerant
00:32:14
in my non-negotiables we're not we're
00:32:16
not I'm not tolerating my
00:32:18
non-negotiables but I think if you have
00:32:20
let's say you're dating somebody what is
00:32:22
the challenge the older you get the
00:32:24
harder it is to get married is there
00:32:25
true to that of course there is why why
00:32:28
is it easier to get married when you're
00:32:29
in your 20s why is it easier to get
00:32:31
married when you're in your 30s than 40s
00:32:33
why I mean there's a whole red pill
00:32:35
conversation we could well now you're
00:32:37
stepping in my department well yeah but
00:32:39
but but by the way I mean the argument
00:32:41
can be well you shouldn't get married
00:32:42
because a divorce they take half of what
00:32:44
he's got into this America is all about
00:32:45
the woman I get that what I'm trying to
00:32:47
tell you is the older you get the less
00:32:50
things you are willing to tolerate yeah
00:32:53
which by the way some could say that's a
00:32:56
good thing but if you're alone by
00:32:59
yourself but you want to be in a family
00:33:01
and have kids guess what you are a
00:33:04
little bit too all intolerant to too
00:33:05
many things you got to kind of pick what
00:33:08
your non-negotiables are it's the only
00:33:09
thing I'm talking about I want to go to
00:33:11
some of the other I want to give you
00:33:12
credit for one thing go for it okay this
00:33:14
is it
00:33:15
the reason I respect pbd so much is the
00:33:17
conversation we talked about one of our
00:33:19
first handful of podcasts and it came
00:33:22
down to the concept of being a leader
00:33:24
and specifically being a sales leader
00:33:26
all right you do the SLS the sales
00:33:27
leader Symposium sales leader Summit
00:33:30
every year any and and we were having a
00:33:32
conversation with debate and you go hold
00:33:34
on I'm sorry Adam what's the most amount
00:33:36
of people you've ever LED
00:33:39
I was like well you know maybe like my
00:33:41
sales team is like four or five guys and
00:33:43
I was a camp counselor as a kid I was 50
00:33:46
people you're like nice try buddy try
00:33:48
being the sales leader sales manager for
00:33:51
tens of thousands of people
00:33:54
and that put my whole narrative in
00:33:57
perspective and that's what I give
00:33:59
Peabody so much credit for speaking of
00:34:00
Tolerance is I mean we've been to the
00:34:03
MGM Grand the events that you do for PHP
00:34:05
shout out to those guys
00:34:07
thousands ten thousand people in a room
00:34:10
when you're leading thousands and
00:34:12
thousands and thousands of people I'm
00:34:14
more prone to listening to what you have
00:34:16
to say versus someone who's leading 10
00:34:18
people in in and by the way again
00:34:21
if if you and I wanted to be intolerant
00:34:25
to every say you're a governor say
00:34:27
you're a president say you're a leader
00:34:29
of a military oh my God one you're
00:34:33
miserable if you have a long list of
00:34:35
things to be intolerant to it's just
00:34:37
things are not going to get done and
00:34:38
everybody else is going to be walking on
00:34:39
eggshells all the time so let's go into
00:34:41
some stories let's go into some stories
00:34:42
by the way Jonah Hill's text did you
00:34:44
guys see Jonah Hill yes did you see
00:34:45
Jonah Hill's text yes you want to go
00:34:47
there yeah okay
00:34:50
the only reason I went there is because
00:34:52
she said red pill not I want your
00:34:54
thoughts so if you want to pull up Jonah
00:34:56
Hill's text and uh this is uh Adam you
00:34:59
didn't even know I was going to bring
00:35:00
this up let me bring it up so here's
00:35:03
Jonah Hill's acts sharing sharing texts
00:35:06
that they had together publicly which is
00:35:08
obviously a very uh Noble thing to do
00:35:11
and many guys of course want to date her
00:35:14
after she shares yeah texts of her ex
00:35:16
with everybody here's a text that Jonah
00:35:18
sent to her plain and simple if you need
00:35:20
surfing with men boundary less
00:35:24
inappropriate friendships with men to
00:35:26
model to post pictures of yourself in a
00:35:28
bathing suit to post sexual pictures
00:35:30
friendship with women who are in
00:35:33
unstable places and from your wild
00:35:35
recent past Beyond getting a lunch or
00:35:38
coffee or something respectful I am not
00:35:40
the right partner for you if these
00:35:42
things bring you to a place of happiness
00:35:44
I support it and there will be no hard
00:35:46
feelings there are my these are my
00:35:49
boundaries for romantic partnership my
00:35:52
boundaries with you based on the ways
00:35:54
these actions have hurt our trust when
00:35:57
you read this what do you say I could
00:35:59
not imagine a more reasonable sentiment
00:36:02
from a boyfriend not only that but he
00:36:04
communicated very very clearly and very
00:36:07
sensitively I felt he's essentially
00:36:08
saying this is what I expect in a
00:36:11
relationship you are currently not
00:36:13
meeting those standards if you want to
00:36:15
keep going on the way you're going
00:36:16
that's totally fine people have accused
00:36:18
him of being controlling he is not
00:36:20
telling her what to do he is simply
00:36:21
saying I will not be a part of it and
00:36:24
guess what women we are not entitled to
00:36:26
have a boyfriend to have a certain man's
00:36:28
time he is just setting I thought very
00:36:30
reasonable boundaries I know in this
00:36:32
social media age it's for some reason
00:36:34
controversial to say Hey you probably
00:36:35
shouldn't be posting thirst traps I
00:36:37
would say that period but especially if
00:36:39
you're in a relationship so to see
00:36:41
people calling Jonah Hill abusive for
00:36:43
this I was really surprised I was
00:36:45
expecting something really juicy
00:36:47
outrageous when I open the text and then
00:36:49
it's just
00:36:50
okay okay
00:36:51
Lauren you hit the nail on the head here
00:36:53
is that you're expecting something so
00:36:56
much worse than this and I was excited
00:36:58
for it showed us a woman beater let's
00:37:00
find it yeah and even if you look on
00:37:02
page six of New York Post that he's been
00:37:03
labeled a misogynist oh God abusive
00:37:06
actually yes uh emotional abuse is what
00:37:08
it's called yeah here's the actual do
00:37:11
uh you you hit the nail on the head when
00:37:13
you said boundaries and also another
00:37:14
word for boundaries is preferences and
00:37:17
this is the difference between men and
00:37:18
women today women have no problem and
00:37:22
they are not lambasted or been or been
00:37:25
made made fun of or ashamed for when
00:37:26
they say they have preferences well what
00:37:29
are the preferences all women want I
00:37:30
want a man that's six foot make six
00:37:32
figures I want it to be nice with my
00:37:34
mother I wanted to be have puppies I
00:37:36
wanted to treat me right I wanted to pay
00:37:37
on the first date I want them to tr you
00:37:39
know be fun be outgoing have a good
00:37:42
Network there's a checklist that women
00:37:44
want but when guys are like yeah uh
00:37:47
here's my checklist uh don't be a hoe
00:37:49
put your tits away you know don't move
00:37:52
thirst traps all over the Internet I'd
00:37:54
prefer it preferences if you don't have
00:37:56
a bunch of guy friends that you're
00:37:58
hanging out with uh and actually just be
00:38:01
a respectful person and don't put your
00:38:05
[ __ ] out there oh my God he's an
00:38:07
emotionally abusive person he's a
00:38:08
misogynist such [ __ ] trolling I have
00:38:12
a question though was she was she like
00:38:14
this before this happened or all of a
00:38:15
sudden here's the other part of the text
00:38:17
that's interesting because he says 25
00:38:18
okay but you're right we can't do serve
00:38:21
social things or develop trust until you
00:38:22
consider me and make decisions that give
00:38:24
regard to our relationship I have been
00:38:26
vulnerable as possible and I am telling
00:38:29
you I am needing you to step up to the
00:38:31
plate which you can I'm sure of it but
00:38:33
these losers don't get your time if you
00:38:36
want me straight up it's consideration I
00:38:37
respect your love for surfing but I
00:38:39
respect myself as well and your love of
00:38:41
Surfing and being in those situations
00:38:43
and lack of awareness are not mutually
00:38:45
exclusive this by the way the guy what a
00:38:47
very well spoken here
00:38:54
this isn't me I have my own issues that
00:38:56
I own I gotta love that if you want
00:38:59
marriage and family you can't use the 25
00:39:01
card step up and cut [ __ ] these people
00:39:04
don't get your time or your kindness at
00:39:07
the sacrifice of mine those guys I mean
00:39:10
that seems very emotional
00:39:11
communicating very clearly yes by the
00:39:14
way do you know this is not recent
00:39:18
do you know that he just had a baby with
00:39:19
another woman yeah well a month ago
00:39:22
that is somewhat of the reason behind
00:39:24
the leak correct exactly so apparently
00:39:27
she waited this woman right here uh
00:39:30
Sarah Brady waited until
00:39:34
the new mother of his child his first
00:39:36
child is that the X that's I believe
00:39:38
that yes
00:39:40
from the lgbtq community could say that
00:39:42
Jonah's shown too much cleavage that's
00:39:44
way too much it looks great is that a
00:39:46
pirate ship the point is she waited
00:39:49
until the new baby mama had a child out
00:39:53
of respect to the woman now you might
00:39:56
say why the [ __ ] are you even putting
00:39:58
these texts out there yeah a year later
00:40:00
right to expose Jonah Hill in my opinion
00:40:04
she's only exposing herself because if
00:40:07
she actually
00:40:08
made some of these concessions she could
00:40:11
be Jonah Hill's baby mama wife whatever
00:40:13
but he found someone that actually was
00:40:16
willing to work within his framework and
00:40:18
his boundaries where she's out there
00:40:19
just still surfing and being by herself
00:40:21
and this is essentially the problem with
00:40:23
modern day women is they're not even
00:40:24
willing to listen to a good guy's
00:40:28
requests by the way what Jonah is
00:40:31
sharing with her are his non-negotiables
00:40:34
that's all it is correct these are my
00:40:36
non-negotiables if you're cool with it
00:40:39
I'd love to make you my wife let's have
00:40:41
family together let's have kids together
00:40:42
but I'm not compromising here that's a
00:40:44
perfect example of somebody that can
00:40:46
reason
00:40:47
talk deliver his message but at the same
00:40:50
time not compromise his non-negotiables
00:40:52
he's got to respect him forward the
00:40:54
problem is that he's not supposed to
00:40:55
have non-negotiables he's not supposed
00:40:56
to have boundaries when it comes to the
00:40:58
behavior of his girlfriend because
00:41:00
feminism she should be able to do
00:41:01
whatever she wants whatever she wants
00:41:03
whatever she wants he can't have any
00:41:05
standards whatsoever oh take it or leave
00:41:07
it buddy and I think regarding your
00:41:08
question of was she doing this before
00:41:10
there are people who were saying well if
00:41:12
she was posting these photos before they
00:41:14
got into a relationship he should have
00:41:15
known what he was in for I think there's
00:41:17
that that's a good point I mean men you
00:41:19
know if if you're at a club I've been to
00:41:22
one once it was not an enjoyable
00:41:23
experience for me but you know if you're
00:41:25
looking at one club in your life it was
00:41:27
not good I did not have a good well
00:41:28
you're saying you've only been to one
00:41:29
club in your entire life yeah and it was
00:41:31
for a work event it was weird anyway you
00:41:33
need to get out more there
00:41:37
are you 30 yet no not yet okay gotcha
00:41:40
you're you're still young um but thank
00:41:42
you a lot of people online disagree but
00:41:45
if you're if well because it's like I'm
00:41:47
past 25 that's like you know oh your smv
00:41:50
is down the hill young lady exactly but
00:41:53
if you're a guy and you're looking at a
00:41:54
girl I a club and she's dread
00:41:56
provocatively and you like the way she
00:41:58
looks that's fine you can be attracted
00:41:59
for to her but don't be surprised when
00:42:02
she's not wife material because I think
00:42:03
for a lot of men what they're not
00:42:05
understanding and for a lot of women too
00:42:06
is that there's a difference between
00:42:07
being interested in someone physically
00:42:09
and maybe for hookup versus an actual
00:42:11
long-term relationship so maybe Jonah
00:42:13
Hill wasn't thinking with his with the
00:42:15
right part of his body there when he got
00:42:17
into a relationship for with her but
00:42:19
also I don't think it's unreasonable to
00:42:21
expect someone to act differently in a
00:42:23
relationship than out of a relationship
00:42:25
like I don't think that's crazy well
00:42:26
people don't change I actually had a
00:42:28
conversation with a good buddy of mine
00:42:30
who's a full-on Orthodox Rabbi living in
00:42:34
Jerusalem when I was there in Israel
00:42:36
seven kids and I'm like what's up dude
00:42:39
he's like dude I'm the same guy he's
00:42:41
like now I've changed like 10 I mean
00:42:43
this was a surfer dude wild party guy
00:42:45
Miami who had a a situation in his life
00:42:49
where he needed to make a change he goes
00:42:51
but I don't I'm still the same person so
00:42:54
maybe you change five percent ten
00:42:56
percent a little bit people don't do
00:42:58
complete 180s so if he's especially not
00:43:01
overnight for sure yeah
00:43:03
um arguably ever major major life
00:43:06
changes so the point is if she's the
00:43:09
surfer girl that's already doing this
00:43:11
maybe she'll change a little bit she's
00:43:13
not going to completely
00:43:15
to a 180 on her complete lifestyle just
00:43:17
like if I'm like hey do you want to go
00:43:19
out to a club Lauren it's like maybe
00:43:21
you'll go once but you're not going to
00:43:22
turn into like a party rat
00:43:24
yeah unfortunately I don't know I don't
00:43:26
know about that you think people change
00:43:28
exponentially no no what do you listen
00:43:32
yes dramatic dude I changed not 10 bro
00:43:37
you You Me At 19 years old versus me at
00:43:41
26 years old it's not it's not a little
00:43:44
bit of change it's it's night and day
00:43:47
what my what my habits have to do okay
00:43:49
it all depends on what life you're so if
00:43:51
you're sick of the life that you got and
00:43:53
you want to move on which Jonah's going
00:43:55
and getting therapy and sitting down
00:43:57
with people figuring out a way to how to
00:43:58
live his life he's being in Hollywood
00:44:00
you probably partied with so many people
00:44:01
God knows what rooms you've been in with
00:44:04
what types of people with how many women
00:44:06
would what has any experience so what
00:44:08
happens at one point like dude I don't
00:44:09
want this life I actually want to have a
00:44:10
family I actually want to have somebody
00:44:12
you can't change five ten percent you
00:44:15
have to change dramatically and that
00:44:17
pain is not easy so if she doesn't want
00:44:19
to give up some of the stuff that she
00:44:21
wants so she doesn't have to do it I
00:44:23
remember dating a girl loved her till
00:44:25
today we're very good together
00:44:26
Jennifer's friends with her as well but
00:44:29
I I got to a point with the rice Alyssa
00:44:31
man I don't know what we're doing next
00:44:32
okay you want to go to Hollywood I don't
00:44:34
want to do Hollywood I want to go be a
00:44:35
businessman and but man we like each
00:44:38
other's company everything's good here's
00:44:39
what I want to do what's that I'm an
00:44:41
atheist I don't believe in god let's go
00:44:43
to church together what are you becoming
00:44:44
religious no all I'm saying is if we're
00:44:46
going to take the next step of getting
00:44:47
married I kind of need help I don't have
00:44:49
a manual and we got to go belong to some
00:44:51
kind of a church something to learn so
00:44:53
that month of me going through that
00:44:55
process for her was so dramatic that she
00:44:58
didn't want to do it and for me I didn't
00:45:00
want to live the life that I was living
00:45:02
I made a massive shift in my life which
00:45:06
by the way when you do make a massive
00:45:08
shift in your life like for her she's
00:45:10
been the same for a long time from the
00:45:12
standpoint of values when she was the
00:45:14
way she was in high school she's the
00:45:16
same as she is today when she said she
00:45:17
hasn't done drunk she's been to one club
00:45:18
and because of work and all this other
00:45:19
stuff that's probably your entire life
00:45:21
for 29 years that's not the case with me
00:45:23
I woke up and I said I'm done the day I
00:45:26
woke up and I said I was done I probably
00:45:28
if I give you a number I probably lost
00:45:30
20 people in my life overnight
00:45:32
20 people might go into Dublin's crew my
00:45:36
going to Garden of Eden crew my going on
00:45:38
pimps and host crew in Las Vegas my crew
00:45:41
of going to you know these every one of
00:45:43
those Saddle Ranch crew my you know
00:45:45
pulled Charles Billiards every one of
00:45:47
those I lost the girls I lost all of
00:45:49
them because what are you doing what
00:45:51
happened to you all of a sudden so some
00:45:53
you know they're in an upbringing stable
00:45:55
things are more solid all this stuff
00:45:56
some are not if you do want a dramatic
00:45:59
change like let's just say you want to
00:46:00
have a wife and kid if you truly like
00:46:02
what Vinnie's doing right now give you
00:46:04
an idea
00:46:06
Vinnie
00:46:07
um all of a sudden I'm at church I'm
00:46:08
like I see Vinnie them like what's
00:46:10
Vinnie doing there okay that's kind of
00:46:12
crazy and then Vinnie gets baptized it's
00:46:14
like six weeks I'm like what is Vinnie
00:46:15
doing over there and I'll go record it
00:46:17
from the sound like this is the same
00:46:18
thing yeah you're telling me story about
00:46:21
a girl you know what's good with your
00:46:22
lips getting swollen all of a sudden why
00:46:24
and if he's not doing this and he's not
00:46:26
doing that and then we go we take him to
00:46:27
Bahamas I'm like damn Vinny's not
00:46:29
changed in the last six weeks after the
00:46:31
Tate visit or whatever while on the
00:46:33
flight back he makes a massive decision
00:46:34
Mario's inviting him to church Aaron
00:46:36
invited him all this stuff Vinnie's made
00:46:38
a dramatic shift in his lifestyle guess
00:46:42
what the people he was kicking with
00:46:44
eight weeks ago probably don't like him
00:46:46
right now nope the people he was
00:46:48
chilling with girls like hey can I come
00:46:49
over at 11 o'clock nah girl you can
00:46:51
right now what happened to you yeah what
00:46:52
happened to the old fun Vinnie that's
00:46:54
the [ __ ] you're gonna hear so
00:46:55
there's different situations that people
00:46:58
have for some that we live the wildlife
00:47:00
and we want to make a big change you
00:47:02
have to be ready like Jonah is to be
00:47:04
able to say I lost this Grand store fine
00:47:06
you got to make that decision as a man
00:47:07
it's tough to do so it's not easy trust
00:47:09
me but you're a friend that's ten
00:47:10
percent chance and seven years old
00:47:13
that's fine that's not the case with
00:47:14
everybody I will I'll say this when you
00:47:16
say it's not the case with everybody
00:47:17
I'll I'll make make the case that it's
00:47:20
not the case with barely anybody yeah
00:47:22
like what you're saying is an anomaly
00:47:25
pbd how many guys that are gang bang in
00:47:28
LA or whatever are like yep I made a
00:47:30
complete change in my lifestyle I'm a
00:47:31
complete family man now I've started a
00:47:33
business I'm sorry you're an anomaly and
00:47:35
respect to you for that so most people
00:47:38
are not making dramatic changes I don't
00:47:41
think so I'll give you an example I
00:47:42
don't if Vinnie's going to church now
00:47:44
awesome Mazel Tov right amazing
00:47:47
I I have I have not noticed any
00:47:50
difference in Vinnie and and respect I
00:47:51
mean it's still the same guy he might so
00:47:55
here's my point your habits might change
00:47:57
your lifestyle might change
00:47:59
exactly that's my point it doesn't
00:48:01
change that's my point no it's not your
00:48:04
decisions may change but your
00:48:05
personality is not changing no no no no
00:48:07
no no that's my point you can change
00:48:08
your personality okay exactly yeah you
00:48:11
can't change your personality but you
00:48:12
can't change who you are you can change
00:48:15
your decisions the question though is
00:48:17
being a whole personality or a lifestyle
00:48:19
oh well say this again is being a whole
00:48:21
personality or a lifestyle oh it's a
00:48:23
lifestyle girl is I also think it's part
00:48:25
personality because there are girls that
00:48:27
I went to school with in high school and
00:48:29
you know they weren't at the time doing
00:48:31
anything I don't think and then oh
00:48:32
you're pregnant two years later at a
00:48:34
wedlock that was not a shock to me even
00:48:37
though the lifestyle they were living at
00:48:38
the time wasn't that but just based on
00:48:40
their personalities I knew that was
00:48:41
gonna happen I knew there was going to
00:48:43
be trouble in 1973 Gallop did a poll
00:48:47
okay
00:48:48
ask in what percentage of gays in
00:48:52
America were born that way
00:48:55
and what percentage of gays in America
00:48:57
were gay because their environment
00:48:59
what do you think the percentage was in
00:49:01
Gallup when they said what percentage of
00:49:04
uh gays were gay because of the they
00:49:07
were born that way Gallop this is like
00:49:09
70s I would say at that time most of
00:49:11
them would have said or most people
00:49:12
would say it was because they were wait
00:49:15
are they asking environment or born so
00:49:17
this is a nature versus nurture question
00:49:19
oh they're asking the the American
00:49:20
people in America to because this guy
00:49:23
would say nurture
00:49:26
before you give the results can we all
00:49:28
guess on this yeah I want you to get
00:49:29
okay go ahead so if you would just
00:49:31
rephrase it one more time okay so back
00:49:34
in 19 late 70s they did a poll in
00:49:37
America for asking people
00:49:39
who are gay yeah do you think they were
00:49:42
born that way they were born gay or
00:49:44
because of their environment people in
00:49:46
the 70s would have said that it was
00:49:47
because of their environment okay yeah
00:49:49
what do you say it is is it a percentage
00:49:51
Yeah I would say uh born
00:49:55
40 60 environment okay check this out I
00:49:58
said 30 I'd say 30 13 said they were
00:50:01
born that way today's 49 okay oh wow
00:50:04
okay during that time when they said 13
00:50:07
born that way
00:50:08
50 something percent said was because of
00:50:10
their environment so to go back to your
00:50:12
question about a hoe most holes their
00:50:15
environments affect them a lot who you
00:50:18
party with you have to pick up whole
00:50:19
Tendencies there was a famous poet named
00:50:21
ludicrous that said it right
00:50:24
he's a great poet he's a great poet a
00:50:27
lot of different area codes right
00:50:29
and see Pat don't change they don't
00:50:32
quote ludicrous but it's free 2004 y'all
00:50:35
okay but but the point is environment
00:50:38
has a big impact upbringing has a big
00:50:41
impact people you befriend has a big
00:50:43
impact and a part of it is your own
00:50:46
attractiveness to that which is part of
00:50:48
your DNA but I'm not going to say it's
00:50:50
that big of a percentage you you become
00:50:52
a hoe you're not born a whole kit
00:50:54
doesn't born go ahead you know what I'm
00:50:57
saying this is my entire life I know you
00:50:58
pick up some of those bad habits so to
00:51:00
go back some of us may have not had
00:51:02
whole Tendencies some of us may have had
00:51:04
lazy Tendencies some of us may have had
00:51:06
you know splurging Tendencies some of
00:51:08
them may have had you know smoking weak
00:51:09
Tendencies or cocaine or ecstasy or
00:51:11
special care whatever you want to talk
00:51:12
so we all had different different
00:51:13
Tendencies and then some people change
00:51:16
dramatically some don't but all in all
00:51:19
Jonah Hill shout out to you respect
00:51:21
happy he had a kid a month ago
00:51:22
congratulations I'm so freaking happy
00:51:25
for that guy yes I am so happy for the
00:51:28
life changing for what he's doing and
00:51:29
he's a sick incredible talented actor
00:51:33
himself maybe one of the most
00:51:35
entertaining ones to watch but he does a
00:51:37
serious movie or a funny movie you guys
00:51:39
are for no doubt incredible super bad
00:51:40
yeah Wolf of Wall Street and just quick
00:51:42
shout out shout out to you Vinnie for
00:51:44
easing up on your whole Tendencies and
00:51:47
going to church respect to you bro thank
00:51:49
you I appreciate it it was uh it was
00:51:51
just it was random it wasn't like nobody
00:51:52
I'm not saying they didn't invite me or
00:51:54
anything it was just like you said you
00:51:55
kept you get to a point where he's like
00:51:57
wait a minute what am I something in
00:51:59
here said to do it and it's just like
00:52:01
now you like I have a whole different
00:52:02
lens in life and environment environment
00:52:06
I mean a 100 environment works yeah the
00:52:08
right environment you know because some
00:52:09
people might consider it called growing
00:52:11
up bro don't ever say the Jeep Rob let's
00:52:14
go to the MSNBC story apparently
00:52:16
everybody here is a is a right wing uh
00:52:18
if you do work out do you know the story
00:52:20
I'm talking about no yes okay go to my
00:52:22
tweet if you want I have it all the way
00:52:24
at the top you'll find a story
00:52:26
uh you go you go to the top yeah there
00:52:28
you go uh click on it yeah they go a
00:52:31
little lower a little lower the lower
00:52:32
boom right there MSNBC uh zoom in uh it
00:52:36
says uh uh um no go back to the tweet on
00:52:40
how they tweeted it okay it says the far
00:52:43
right obsession with Fitness is going
00:52:46
digital
00:52:48
tell me that's not crazy wait that's far
00:52:51
right so I I retweeted it and I put
00:52:54
something at the top I said does the
00:52:55
opposite also me go a little lower does
00:52:58
the opposite also mean it's true the far
00:53:00
left Obsession would be in fat and lazy
00:53:03
is going digital ironically yes
00:53:07
yeah so if you work at even Joe said
00:53:09
wait a minute now if I work out I'm a
00:53:11
right wing forward right yeah all right
00:53:15
yeah like by the way let's say if they
00:53:18
are saying that okay so so moving
00:53:21
forward every time I see somebody who is
00:53:23
willing to take the time to work out
00:53:25
their disciplined with their diet they
00:53:27
go to the gym three four times they're
00:53:28
detailed with you know chest and back
00:53:31
and shoulders and triceps or bison tries
00:53:34
and legs and they're very disciplined
00:53:36
with all that stuff that's a right wing
00:53:37
well guess what you know you know what
00:53:39
the Republicans should do they should
00:53:40
use this and say guess what yeah yeah we
00:53:42
are we like to say hello lean into it
00:53:44
you guys like vaccines we like to work
00:53:46
out yeah you guys like to use like even
00:53:48
Peter Hotel say do you work here no not
00:53:49
really what do you do I eat a lot of
00:53:51
junk food don't you think that's bad
00:53:52
food do you take vitamins Now Vitamins
00:53:54
don't really work you know I only take
00:53:55
vaccines really yeah well they're
00:53:58
talking about studies about this if you
00:54:00
are a man and you go to the gym and you
00:54:01
work out and you have higher
00:54:02
testosterone you are more likely to be
00:54:04
right wing than correct
00:54:06
wing and I don't think it's a mystery as
00:54:09
to why because a lot of the I guess
00:54:11
mentality that would lead to someone
00:54:12
going to the gym self-improvement
00:54:14
personal response responsibility
00:54:15
discipline those are more inherently
00:54:17
conservative than socialists not to
00:54:19
mention just the I guess you know if you
00:54:21
go to the gym your testosterone levels
00:54:22
are going to be higher because you're
00:54:23
exercising and being having a higher
00:54:26
testosterone level is more commonly
00:54:27
associated with right-wing values
00:54:29
because it's like you're you're less
00:54:30
effeminate less willing to nurture
00:54:32
redistribute all those so you're saying
00:54:34
most steroids dealers are Republicans
00:54:36
[Laughter]
00:54:39
a better artist yeah well just look at
00:54:41
the UFC the UFC I mean I'm not going to
00:54:43
say everyone who's a pro fighter is
00:54:45
going to be Republican or right-wing but
00:54:47
that is one of the few Sports where I
00:54:49
think you see a lot a lot of even if
00:54:50
they're not openly we like I know for a
00:54:53
fact that a lot of people in that sphere
00:54:55
professional fighting they are
00:54:56
conservative they do lean right oh when
00:54:58
they see Trump they like a fighter this
00:55:00
past weekend out of the ring and was
00:55:02
like Mr Trump like I love you but it's
00:55:04
not well I didn't know that going to the
00:55:05
gym like yeah well I'm a racist Jesus
00:55:07
that's right it's so absurd there are to
00:55:10
to confirm what you're saying there have
00:55:11
been studies out there that attribute
00:55:14
being a little bit more attractive to
00:55:15
being a little bit more conservative
00:55:17
right-wing free thinking because it
00:55:19
comes down to
00:55:21
personal accountability right and that's
00:55:23
really what it comes down to there's
00:55:24
multiple studies like this but this to
00:55:26
me I'd like to see the studies they get
00:55:27
where it just seems [ __ ] on the
00:55:30
surface because I know so many people
00:55:32
left right center up down gay straight
00:55:35
who just are want to look good take care
00:55:37
of themselves I mean I live in Miami and
00:55:39
South Beach you have no idea how many
00:55:41
gay guys are out there looking [ __ ]
00:55:42
they look great no I mean I'm not into
00:55:44
that thing but whatever whatever great
00:55:46
but it's it's just so absurd so I I
00:55:49
fully agree with Pat
00:55:50
if you're on the GOP embrace the hell
00:55:53
out of this the left are just fat sloppy
00:55:55
lazy losers wait uh relying on vaccines
00:55:58
and you're taking personal
00:55:59
accountability and personal
00:56:00
responsibility for your health if you're
00:56:01
on the right
00:56:02
it's a bad look for yeah for MSNBC to
00:56:06
write that I I I would run with it I'm
00:56:08
telling you if I'm on the other side I'm
00:56:10
on a run even MSNBC says you know we're
00:56:12
in shape we have the right habits and
00:56:14
the other side doesn't anyways next
00:56:15
story since you're talking about this
00:56:17
Trump shares a jovial handshake with Joe
00:56:20
Rogan who once called them a man baby
00:56:23
and an existential threat to democracy
00:56:26
former Donald Trump shared a friendly
00:56:28
handshake with Joe Rogan at the UFC
00:56:29
fight in Las Vegas despite Rogan
00:56:30
previously Colin Trump a man baby Trump
00:56:32
enthusiastically approached Rogan at the
00:56:35
event and the two engage in a
00:56:37
a friendly conversation a 10 second
00:56:40
handshake Rogan has been critical of
00:56:42
trump in the past referring to him as a
00:56:43
man baby and declining opportunities to
00:56:46
interview him Rogan expresses lack of
00:56:47
support for Trump stating that he
00:56:49
doesn't want to help him and Views him
00:56:51
as an existential threat to democracy
00:56:54
despite their differences Trump and
00:56:55
Rogan had a cordial interaction at the
00:56:58
UFC fight that's that good question
00:57:00
the question becomes a follow-up okay
00:57:02
when you see this okay if you look at
00:57:04
this because I want you to see this go
00:57:05
back to the handshake to show this you
00:57:07
know I love these handshake they're the
00:57:08
most aggressive Trump is always playing
00:57:10
tug of war
00:57:12
he's like get in here watch watch I love
00:57:14
he goes you're a good guy you're a good
00:57:15
look at you good JC is complimenting
00:57:17
Rogan yeah thank you thank you he said
00:57:19
we should have a talk so here's the
00:57:21
question yes sir over under the podcast
00:57:23
taking place with Trump and Roku 80 yes
00:57:25
it's gonna happen I say I think it is
00:57:28
gonna happen I'm not going to give a
00:57:29
percentage but give a percentage Lauren
00:57:31
take a risk 67. oh wow that it's
00:57:35
happened two-thirds this is how she's
00:57:37
doing it I think 80 where are you going
00:57:38
with this well I'm asking you I asked
00:57:40
okay that looks like he has an Insider
00:57:41
uh look at Pat's grin see that it's
00:57:43
cheating if you're Pat has that look
00:57:44
that his son has when he knows it messed
00:57:46
up yeah Pat knows see that laugh all
00:57:48
right so you want to go first well I'll
00:57:50
just cite two quotes you set up the man
00:57:52
baby thing that was on a podcast he did
00:57:54
with Tom Segura in 2022. it's not a 2016
00:57:58
conversation and then in 2022 Rogan had
00:58:00
a podcast with Lex Friedman and he said
00:58:03
uh he was asked multiple times to do a
00:58:05
podcast he said no no no no no no every
00:58:07
single time quote unquote I have no
00:58:09
interest in helping him this is in 2022
00:58:12
so as of a year ago it was zero percent
00:58:15
I think at this point based on the UFC
00:58:18
audience how things have changed quite
00:58:20
significantly I will give it a and I
00:58:22
think it's a high number 20 what wow yes
00:58:25
but it goes up what you what what you
00:58:27
what you're saying 80 you're saying he's
00:58:30
gonna do it and Pat this just goes into
00:58:31
what we just talked about like tolerance
00:58:34
and like he's changing as a person like
00:58:36
bro he's seeing the like he Joe Rogan
00:58:38
was anti-trump on everything right now
00:58:40
but now that he's seeing what the left
00:58:42
has done he's pro-trump right now I
00:58:44
don't care what anybody says bro he's
00:58:46
shaking his hands smiling when he was a
00:58:48
fan he called him a man baby a year ago
00:58:50
a year ago well a year a lot can change
00:58:52
in a year
00:58:53
it doesn't mean he doesn't want to
00:58:55
interview him you want to play I'm just
00:58:56
glad that he's still considered a man
00:58:58
yeah oh is that what you're talking
00:58:59
about what he said what do you say here
00:59:00
this is the Lex Friedman interview from
00:59:03
last year where he said he won an
00:59:04
interview play it Rob Lex fredman why
00:59:06
fredman I don't know not a Friedman Rob
00:59:09
well he didn't want to say that because
00:59:10
Rob's been going to the gym so he
00:59:11
doesn't want to be a
00:59:13
shakes hands with people that aren't
00:59:15
even there when he gets off stage yeah I
00:59:17
think he's seeing ghosts you see him on
00:59:19
Jimmy Kimmel the other day no well he
00:59:21
was just rambling I mean he's if he was
00:59:24
anyone else if he was a republican if
00:59:28
that was Donald Trump doing that every
00:59:30
[ __ ] talk show would be screaming for
00:59:33
him to be off the air and by the way I'm
00:59:36
not a trump supporter in any way shape
00:59:38
or form I've had the opportunity to have
00:59:40
him on my show more than once I've said
00:59:42
no every time I don't want to help him
00:59:43
I'm not interested in helping him the
00:59:45
the Knight is still young we'll see if I
00:59:48
have mon the Knight is still young I
00:59:50
think I'll have him on yeah I think
00:59:51
you'll have him on really why do you
00:59:52
think that because you'll have Putin on
00:59:57
your computer
00:59:59
you can pause it right there what's the
01:00:01
date on that time stamp that this is
01:00:06
2020.
01:00:08
the thing about this I don't want to
01:00:10
help him but the by
01:00:13
has no idea he's not making decisions
01:00:15
they have they have [ __ ] on this country
01:00:17
so much now it's not what now he's gonna
01:00:21
help him no now he he's a prime example
01:00:24
of seeing just what the media and
01:00:26
everybody did to the left God and what
01:00:27
no no before Pat Reveals His results
01:00:29
yeah you want to have a bet let's have a
01:00:31
bet all right I bet you a thousand
01:00:32
dollars a thousand bucks that he does
01:00:34
not have him on that he doesn't
01:00:36
interview him correct wait by when by oh
01:00:39
God by the time that Trump presidency is
01:00:42
is or or is not the president before
01:00:44
November 2nd or third sure you're saying
01:00:47
a thousand dollars he doesn't interview
01:00:48
him yeah
01:00:49
it's a good bet
01:00:51
I'll go 500 bucks
01:00:55
Hey listen Penny what happened to having
01:00:56
conviction no no what happened
01:00:59
500 bucks is a big number 500 bucks
01:01:02
700. Adam five years you want to do it
01:01:06
all right I don't usually do bets for
01:01:07
less than a thousand five minutes
01:01:11
I'll pay it we'll pay it live verbal
01:01:13
agreement
01:01:15
buy the election you're saying it's not
01:01:18
good for election correct and if it
01:01:21
happens I pay you 500 bucks that's 500
01:01:23
and if it doesn't happen got you so
01:01:25
here's what I would say yeah so here's
01:01:27
what I would say I think the the one
01:01:29
thing that's been very consistent with
01:01:31
Joe Rogan over the years that he's so
01:01:33
open-minded that his positions can
01:01:35
change yeah okay he never thought he
01:01:38
would have RFK on before okay and now he
01:01:41
had RFK on even the opening he says look
01:01:44
I thought you were alone I thought this
01:01:45
I thought that I thought this but then
01:01:47
listen I met you Casa D'Angelo okay you
01:01:49
know but whatever no he didn't say casa
01:01:50
I Met You in uh Aspen we talked I'm like
01:01:53
okay I want to have you on and I you
01:01:54
know I thought it was all this vaccine
01:01:56
stuff and I was a guy that was a vaccine
01:01:57
person but you're making a lot of sense
01:01:58
that I read the book okay great he's
01:02:00
done this so many times he went from
01:02:02
Bernie Sanders to Saint voting
01:02:04
Republican okay correct the evolution so
01:02:06
meaning there is that Evolution with Joe
01:02:08
for this to take place here's the other
01:02:09
part the whole concept about
01:02:11
uh uh I've shared with Joe what my
01:02:14
thoughts are on on the interview with
01:02:16
Trump he he knows it but
01:02:18
um
01:02:19
the idea about I don't want to help him
01:02:21
has to be replaced in my opinion you're
01:02:25
not helping him you're helping America
01:02:27
meaning if the idea is you don't want to
01:02:31
help America I think Joe you want to
01:02:33
help America and you've been helping
01:02:34
America in my opinion you're the number
01:02:36
one guy you're the goat when it comes
01:02:38
down to podcasting and not only that
01:02:40
during covet the the most super
01:02:43
necessary guy in America
01:02:46
was him Forget before musk buying
01:02:49
Twitter in October of 2022 before any of
01:02:52
that it was Joe Rogan not Dr fauci Pat
01:02:55
no no so so so the point the point I'm
01:02:57
trying to make is yeah if you believe
01:02:59
America needs to see the opposing side
01:03:02
of the argument I think Joe needs to
01:03:05
have uh Trump on I think he needs to
01:03:07
have the Santa son I think he needs to
01:03:09
have Newsom on uh because I think it's
01:03:11
going to be Newsom Biden won't go they
01:03:13
wouldn't know
01:03:14
but I would die to see that but I would
01:03:17
love this you know what I would love to
01:03:19
see if since he smokes weed with Elon
01:03:21
Musk I would love to see Joe Rogan smoke
01:03:23
crack with Hunter Bible I just I mean
01:03:27
Joe doesn't need to smoke it
01:03:29
I think that would be viewed
01:03:31
an island
01:03:33
well I'm here
01:03:35
I think eventually uh it's more likely
01:03:39
to happen I'm more 55 yes
01:03:57
saying he doesn't want to help him but
01:03:59
it seems like at least with RFK his
01:04:01
approach wasn't necessarily I'm helping
01:04:03
you or not helping you it's just we're
01:04:04
just having a conversation and people
01:04:06
can decide and you know if Trump is an
01:04:08
idiot if he's uh an extremist if he's
01:04:10
whatever sitting down for three hours
01:04:12
people are gonna see through that so it
01:04:14
might even hurt him who knows but I
01:04:15
think his audience would decide and I
01:04:17
think Rogan likes to be clear I I
01:04:19
actually would like to see that
01:04:20
interview I'm actually I'll gladly lose
01:04:22
500 if it means to see that interview I
01:04:25
think it'd be amazing but I think we're
01:04:27
doing a disservice to uh Trump to
01:04:29
compare rfk's
01:04:32
viewpoints to where how he feels about
01:04:34
Trump this is this has nothing to do
01:04:35
with RFK no that's what I'm saying he he
01:04:37
criticized some of his views but he
01:04:39
still had him on no it's a different
01:04:40
Beast with Trump what do you mean with
01:04:42
with how the interview with Trump's
01:04:44
going to do versus his feelings about
01:04:46
RFK were not as Intense or exaggerated
01:04:49
as they are with Trump he never called
01:04:51
RFK a man baby yeah and he never said he
01:04:54
would never want to have a very
01:04:56
interesting individual with a high
01:04:58
self-awareness and a level of comfort of
01:05:02
being wrong and a level of conflict
01:05:04
conviction in areas where he is certain
01:05:06
that he's right and you know this is
01:05:09
this is a guy that if there's a guy that
01:05:11
uh you know would be able to you know
01:05:14
interview would be able to change his
01:05:16
position and be open to the idea it's
01:05:18
Joe and if that happens so I'll let you
01:05:21
guys know if that happens he's done 2024
01:05:23
Doug it's gonna be like hey Kiss It
01:05:25
Goodbye everybody else call home pack
01:05:28
you know play your video games I
01:05:31
understand what you're saying and you're
01:05:32
saying that if he has him on that that
01:05:34
will mean Trump will win the White House
01:05:37
if he has them on uh okay so for example
01:05:41
Maria Bartiromo let me just read this to
01:05:43
you okay and this this is kind of Mario
01:05:45
Bartolo confronts DeSantis on 2024
01:05:47
campaign what happened right this is a
01:05:49
Newsweek story and if you want to pull
01:05:51
up the clip if you actually have the
01:05:53
clip I don't know if you got it or not
01:05:54
if you can just go to that part where he
01:05:57
asks she asked the question uh uh is
01:06:00
this yeah this is the part go ahead and
01:06:01
play it watch this back against woke we
01:06:04
know that but I'm wondering what's going
01:06:06
on with your campaign there was a lot of
01:06:08
optimism about you running for president
01:06:11
earlier in the year but here's this
01:06:13
weekend's headline from the Politico
01:06:15
Playbook Failure to Launch Florida
01:06:18
Governor Ron desantis's campaign to
01:06:20
topple Donald Trump has stalled we are
01:06:23
way behind says a top DeSantis pack
01:06:26
official sounding the alarm what
01:06:28
happened
01:06:31
um Maria these are narratives the media
01:06:34
does not want me to be the nominee I
01:06:36
think that's very very clear why because
01:06:38
they know I'll beat Biden but even more
01:06:41
importantly they know I will actually
01:06:42
deliver on all these things we will stop
01:06:45
The Invasion at the border we'll take on
01:06:47
the drug cartels we'll curtail the
01:06:50
administrative State we'll get spending
01:06:52
under control we'll do all the things
01:06:54
that they don't want uh to see done and
01:06:57
so they're going to continue doing the
01:06:59
type of narrative I can tell you we
01:07:01
understand this as a state-by-state
01:07:03
process we've had incredible support in
01:07:07
the early states building an
01:07:08
organization signing up the key people
01:07:10
that you need to be able to compete in a
01:07:13
place like Iowa we just launched our
01:07:15
model okay you can pause it right there
01:07:17
here's the thing by the way he ain't
01:07:19
lying meaning
01:07:21
he wouldn't make one hell of a president
01:07:23
I agree he would have incredible
01:07:25
policies he would do all of those things
01:07:28
but you're going up against a guy that's
01:07:31
a marketer and your marketing team sucks
01:07:35
it's absolutely sucks since the book
01:07:38
came out the Razzle Dazzle of trump he
01:07:40
needs to throw in some horse faces
01:07:43
like a comments
01:07:46
some excitement
01:07:49
you need something
01:07:52
I hooked up with the Santa 17 years ago
01:08:05
the point I'm trying to make is yeah you
01:08:08
know
01:08:11
so there's one you have an incredible
01:08:13
resume check you have it two is
01:08:16
you're going into the interview okay
01:08:19
the person you already got the interview
01:08:22
like you got the people you're being
01:08:24
considered for the job you're a finalist
01:08:26
you're in the top three finalists to be
01:08:28
considered for the job so the resume got
01:08:31
you into the interview
01:08:34
then you have to crush the interview
01:08:37
and you ruin the interview
01:08:38
if Trump goes in with the resume
01:08:42
and then he goes in the interview that's
01:08:44
where he shines he's shining when the
01:08:47
interview begins this guy's like here's
01:08:50
my resume let me tell you what I've done
01:08:51
this is why you should pick me that's
01:08:52
not how America works well it's funny
01:08:54
because for so long people have been
01:08:56
critical of trump being unpredictable
01:08:57
kind of brash and abrasive but it turns
01:08:59
out that maybe you need a candidate with
01:09:01
at least a little bit of that because
01:09:03
you have someone like Rhonda Sanders I
01:09:04
like Trump I like Rhonda santis I don't
01:09:06
think it needs to be either or but he
01:09:08
doesn't have the same star power the
01:09:10
same Charisma which in politics let's be
01:09:12
real of course That Matters by the way
01:09:14
okay so let's let's do this let's do
01:09:16
this uh the star power by the way his
01:09:19
team I've communicated with both teams
01:09:20
with Trump's team with his team with
01:09:22
rfk's team with vivex team we're in
01:09:25
communication with every one of the
01:09:26
teams Suarez do you know which team
01:09:28
sucks in follow-up or getting back to us
01:09:31
they text in a text and then boom okay
01:09:36
I'm available this afternoon great no
01:09:39
follow-up for two weeks they're the
01:09:42
worse in follow-up it's a reflection of
01:09:44
the brand it's not a good look and this
01:09:47
is not like it's a small podcast we got
01:09:49
17 subscribers and you're doing this
01:09:51
with we got a platform to say this to
01:09:52
the market your follow-up sucks with
01:09:55
people that are reaching out to you and
01:09:57
we communicate with every campaign so
01:09:59
you're talking about the an FYI I keep
01:10:02
saying this we came here because of this
01:10:03
guy we're in Florida because of this guy
01:10:06
I've moved I don't know how many people
01:10:08
we've moved out if I tell you in the
01:10:11
last 26 months 28 months if I told tell
01:10:14
you 1500 people have moved to Florida
01:10:17
because of what we've done that would be
01:10:19
a small number we've moved a couple
01:10:21
thousand people to Florida with the
01:10:23
amount of times we've raved about him
01:10:25
raved about the state we've moved people
01:10:28
to the state and these are high quality
01:10:30
people that we move to the state these
01:10:31
are not non-performing people these are
01:10:33
job creators entrepreneurs that we have
01:10:36
moved to this state there is support
01:10:38
there
01:10:39
you're saying you have to be able to
01:10:41
sell yourself right okay
01:10:42
let me give you another example of
01:10:44
somebody
01:10:45
that I think campaign to campaign
01:10:47
campaign to campaign vivec is crushing
01:10:51
their campaign and Vivek had nothing who
01:10:53
was Vivek well I mean he was a
01:10:55
best-selling author multi-millionaire
01:10:57
entrepreneur no but but the difference
01:10:59
is but but the difference is let me let
01:11:00
me put it to you this way day one when
01:11:03
vivec announced his running for office
01:11:05
do you know what his Twitter account was
01:11:07
at 40 000 followers sixty thousand
01:11:09
followers I'm sorry even the woke book
01:11:11
he wrote it didn't blow up can you go to
01:11:13
Amazon go to Amazon and type in vivec go
01:11:16
to Amazon and type in Vivek we had him
01:11:17
on and he and I we spoke yesterday go go
01:11:19
online and put his name there okay when
01:11:22
he first came out with his walk book
01:11:24
just type in Vivek ramazwani and go to
01:11:26
his book uh uh okay how many uh what is
01:11:29
that that's Vivek what year 2023 how
01:11:32
many months ago uh yeah this book came
01:11:34
out April of 2023 it has uh 47 reviews
01:11:37
okay go to the next book that by the way
01:11:39
57 reviews to be fair guys and I like
01:11:42
this guy that's nothing nation of
01:11:44
victims how many reviews is that 372
01:11:47
reviews a year ago that's barely selling
01:11:50
30 000 copies by the way just so you
01:11:52
know that that number on Amazon that's
01:11:53
nothing but what has this guy done
01:11:55
here's what he's done he went on
01:11:57
Charlemagne the God The Breakfast Club
01:11:59
you know what they try to do to him
01:12:00
destroy him you know what he did he
01:12:02
stood his ground he went on new CNN same
01:12:04
with CNN you went on CNN he went on he's
01:12:07
gone everywhere he's not said no to
01:12:10
anything and he stood his ground when
01:12:12
Don Lemon tried to embarrass him he
01:12:14
stood his ground he says that's fine you
01:12:15
can believe that but we can disagree and
01:12:17
he was so respectful about it the way
01:12:20
ramaswani went out there saying I'm Not
01:12:23
Afraid him and RFK get A's in the way
01:12:28
they've gone out talking the scientist's
01:12:30
camp is thinking they're entitled to
01:12:33
that to the throne and you don't get the
01:12:35
championship ring given to you you got
01:12:37
to go earn that stuff by the way whether
01:12:39
you're injured whether you're not in the
01:12:41
mood when you're going to the playoffs
01:12:42
on Sports what happens during playoffs
01:12:44
what does everybody say during playoffs
01:12:46
when people do the interviews like when
01:12:48
Joel embiid says well it was really hurt
01:12:49
and I was this you know what Champions
01:12:51
say listen when you're in the playoffs
01:12:54
everybody is at 50 60 everybody's
01:12:57
dealing with an injury you got a finger
01:12:59
you got a knee you gotta you gotta this
01:13:00
you got it that you don't have a choice
01:13:02
you have to show up in the playoffs
01:13:04
right
01:13:05
it's very disappointing and by the way
01:13:08
yesterday we're having this conversation
01:13:09
with a group of people and some of the
01:13:10
guys said he's the modern day Jeb Bush
01:13:12
and he's a modern-day Skywalker that's
01:13:14
nothing hang on a second the modern day
01:13:16
Jeb Bush and the modern day Scott Walker
01:13:18
not because of resume his resume is
01:13:22
possibly the greatest governor in the
01:13:25
last 30 years since I've been in America
01:13:28
no one's got a better resume than him
01:13:30
but his campaign is Jeb Bush and Scott
01:13:32
Walker 2.0 and Pat you were you you've
01:13:34
been saying this not not to cut you off
01:13:36
you've been saying this for how long
01:13:37
about the marketing team and everything
01:13:39
about him my question is as as being at
01:13:43
the candidate being descended how does
01:13:44
he not see it are you not hearing like
01:13:47
she's she just said it the the people
01:13:49
are seeing your numbers are showing it
01:13:51
does he need to just do a complete shift
01:13:53
patent like fire somebody or hire a
01:13:55
better marketing team they are horrible
01:13:57
how they not texting somebody back that
01:13:59
is like yo I have this platform Millions
01:14:01
not just I have a platform I'll do a
01:14:03
fundraiser for you yeah we'll raise a
01:14:05
ton of money yeah we'll get you eyeballs
01:14:07
we'll have a fair interview with you
01:14:08
because we respect you let's have this
01:14:11
exchange multiple times the team doesn't
01:14:14
get back not one time well I'm not going
01:14:16
to give names yet okay but I'm gonna
01:14:18
give names within a year multiple times
01:14:20
they don't get back to you multiple
01:14:23
times they don't get back to you and by
01:14:24
the way I'm not the only one saying that
01:14:25
as well making Kelly have you say Megan
01:14:28
Kelly is one of the greatest she's a top
01:14:30
five in the last 10 years what are you
01:14:32
doing not going on Megan Kelly what are
01:14:33
you doing not going on any of this stuff
01:14:35
what are you doing not going on Lex free
01:14:36
I don't know has Lex done a podcast with
01:14:38
DeSantis yet no I don't think so I don't
01:14:40
believe it can you look it up what are
01:14:41
you doing not going on Lex Lex is a very
01:14:43
very nice guy Lex is a sweetheart of a
01:14:47
guy that's going to ask you questions
01:14:48
but he's so respectful about it how come
01:14:50
you haven't gone on legs and it'll be
01:14:52
fair to you as well can I just give some
01:14:54
quick numbers just to validate exactly
01:14:56
what you're saying in February what
01:14:58
month are we in right now July July so
01:15:01
less than six months ago go up Rob just
01:15:03
to the top to the top left ahead the
01:15:06
Republican primary polls boom in
01:15:08
February between Trump and DeSantis neck
01:15:12
and neck yeah look at that yeah to the
01:15:14
left they were one was at 38 one was at
01:15:16
42 percent anyone's race anyone's race
01:15:20
in February Failure to Launch what do
01:15:22
they call his campaign his book came out
01:15:24
six months before he actually announced
01:15:26
Pat's called out his marketing team now
01:15:28
go to all the way to the right just look
01:15:30
at the numbers Trump said 52 percent
01:15:32
DeSantis has plummeted from 38 down to
01:15:35
what is that less than 20.
01:15:38
24 what is that Rob
01:15:41
doesn't sit here on the track but it's
01:15:43
hovering right around between 20 like
01:15:44
23. the point is this whatever he's
01:15:47
doing it's fair to say is not working so
01:15:49
he should change you should change
01:15:51
things up even you gotta adjust you
01:15:52
gotta adapt yeah I'm in Florida for two
01:15:54
you gotta go into halftime and say
01:15:56
listen guys someone's got to give a
01:15:57
halftime speech
01:15:58
change it up a little bit go ahead yeah
01:16:00
I mean I'm in Florida for TP USA and we
01:16:02
have a sister organization Turning Point
01:16:04
action there's a huge conference I mean
01:16:06
Trump is speaking Tucker Carlson is
01:16:08
speaking DeSantis isn't speaking I'm not
01:16:11
part of that organization you know it's
01:16:13
just they're they're separate because
01:16:14
the Santa's really not speaking he's not
01:16:16
speaking I mean he hasn't been announced
01:16:18
yet and some people there are some
01:16:19
people are wondering why he isn't there
01:16:21
is it because he doesn't want to go in
01:16:23
the same event be speaking with Trump
01:16:25
and I I don't know but I would love to
01:16:27
see more of him because he's been one of
01:16:29
like you said the most effective
01:16:30
Governors he's been aggressive in his
01:16:32
policy which I love he's not one of
01:16:34
these Republicans who is simply trying
01:16:35
to be on offense all the time he's
01:16:36
actually saying okay parental rights and
01:16:38
education boom let's do it let's go
01:16:40
after Disney we're not just gonna talk
01:16:41
which I love I've been in communication
01:16:43
with his administration there was a
01:16:45
video that I shared of uh this topless
01:16:48
trans stripper with a I mean she looked
01:16:50
like four years old it wasn't just talk
01:16:52
for the campaign they're actually doing
01:16:54
things about it they're trying to do an
01:16:55
investigation see if they should keep
01:16:57
their liquor license I love how
01:16:58
effective they are but like you said the
01:17:00
campaign it just it's Gotta show up
01:17:02
listen when you get to the interview you
01:17:04
best deliver when you're sitting across
01:17:06
the decision maker you know who the
01:17:07
decision maker right now is America
01:17:10
and Americans right now are saying no
01:17:13
you're not fit for the job yet maybe
01:17:16
never FYI I'll never forget I will never
01:17:19
forget
01:17:21
when the Pacers are playing the Miami
01:17:23
Heat
01:17:25
and timeout is called Indiana is up one
01:17:29
this is game two game three they're
01:17:31
about to go up 2-1 this is 2012. yes yes
01:17:34
11 years ago yes okay they're up one
01:17:38
coach Vogel takes out Roy Hibbert who
01:17:41
was the center of starter All-Star game
01:17:43
he takes Hibbert out
01:17:46
and like what are you doing there's two
01:17:47
seconds left on the shot clock
01:17:50
Hibbert's on the sideline shaking and
01:17:51
said what are you doing taking me out
01:17:53
Miami takes the ball gives it to LeBron
01:17:56
at the free throw line LeBron goes this
01:17:58
way fakes going with a left hand they
01:18:00
win the game afterwards they're talking
01:18:03
TNT and Chuck says well you know the
01:18:06
Frank's got to tell him right now we're
01:18:08
so close and this is our chance to go to
01:18:09
the championship and Kenny Smith says no
01:18:12
Charles I disagree he says what do you
01:18:14
mean you disagree he says this may have
01:18:17
been their last chance to ever win a
01:18:20
championship wow
01:18:21
these players don't realize when you get
01:18:24
an opportunity like this championships
01:18:26
are not handed out you should have kept
01:18:28
Hibbert in what are you doing taking
01:18:30
them out guess what he was right he
01:18:32
would win like this after that nobody
01:18:33
ever talked about him again and that
01:18:35
entire team Paul George everybody they
01:18:37
had collapsed vocal everybody went all
01:18:39
over the place
01:18:40
this idea of thinking well this doesn't
01:18:42
work we'll do 28 if this doesn't run
01:18:44
Skywalker this one object which is
01:18:45
another story no this is not how life
01:18:47
works you have the sickest resume today
01:18:50
you crushed it under covid you even had
01:18:53
MBA like the story talent why are you
01:18:55
not talking about the most liberal BLM
01:18:58
think about the hypocrisy NBA had BLM
01:19:01
all over the place and as much as that
01:19:02
BLM all over the place they chose to
01:19:04
hold the All-Star Game in your state
01:19:06
while you're the governor how the hell
01:19:08
are you not telling that story you
01:19:09
crushed it and you're not telling that
01:19:11
story I don't understand this stuff it's
01:19:13
so confusing this should have been like
01:19:15
this Trump and DeSantis should have been
01:19:17
like this and by the way that's better
01:19:19
for America if it would have been like
01:19:21
this because they're pushing issues
01:19:22
there is no issues right now we're not
01:19:25
hearing any issues right now all we're
01:19:27
seeing is this it's over for most people
01:19:29
some people say why should even Trump
01:19:30
get on the stage can you imagine if
01:19:32
Trump doesn't even get on the stage
01:19:33
doesn't need to listen did you get on
01:19:34
the stage Marie asked him a question are
01:19:37
you going to be on the stage
01:19:38
so well yeah of course I'm going to be
01:19:40
doing the debate but this is you have to
01:19:41
win by the state and all this other
01:19:42
stuff no not for for president yes it's
01:19:46
by State but not for Republican that's
01:19:48
for yep anyways so it's a whole
01:19:51
different story on what's going on here
01:19:52
so for me Trump goes on Rogan
01:19:55
he's gonna put on a show you know what
01:19:57
he's going to do he's going to do
01:19:59
flattery Joe you're the greatest you
01:20:01
know this this this that all of that
01:20:03
stuff's gonna happen they're going to
01:20:04
connect they're gonna laugh he's gonna
01:20:06
make Joe laugh his ass off those clips
01:20:08
are going to be put up at the end of it
01:20:10
Joe's probably you know Hey sir I got to
01:20:12
tell you my position here but I really
01:20:14
enjoyed you with you hopefully you're
01:20:16
gonna kind of tone it down a little bit
01:20:18
with the way you do this this with
01:20:19
tweets it says I'm working on it and
01:20:21
then boom the world's gonna see that and
01:20:23
humanize him and the rest is history
01:20:24
these are some of the things that if
01:20:26
Trump gets that opportunity to be on Joe
01:20:28
he'll capitalize I think so too can I
01:20:30
just add one thing because I know our
01:20:32
audience isn't a sports audience so yeah
01:20:33
I'm not gonna lie that was lost but I
01:20:36
like that I got that but here's the deal
01:20:38
what he's saying is carpe diem
01:20:42
this is the mother freaking day
01:20:44
in February that here are the numbers 40
01:20:46
Trump 38 DeSantis now it's 52-21 he
01:20:52
tells this random 2012 NBA playoff story
01:20:54
as a metaphor the Indiana Pacers were
01:20:58
this close to dethroning to the Miami
01:21:01
Heat and LeBron James what has happened
01:21:02
since then since this stupid decision
01:21:04
that the coach made Indiana Pacers have
01:21:07
barely even made it the playoffs that
01:21:08
team has been dismantled Danny Granger
01:21:10
Paul George Roy Edward is out of the
01:21:12
league meanwhile LeBron James AKA Trump
01:21:15
in this story has won four NBA
01:21:17
championships since then he's still the
01:21:19
face of the league meanwhile the other
01:21:20
players are out of the freaking League
01:21:22
he also brought up Scott Walker Jeb Bush
01:21:24
these people are in the in the Dustbin
01:21:27
of history and that could potentially
01:21:29
happen to DeSantis
01:21:32
no no they don't get a second shot do
01:21:34
you think he should have waited until
01:21:35
the next election cycle no not at all
01:21:37
because a lot of people are saying oh
01:21:39
I'm sorry till the next elections oh
01:21:40
yeah I'm sorry I thought you were saying
01:21:42
you you should have waited to go on
01:21:43
later oh no you're saying to go 2028.
01:21:46
okay that's a very good question I I
01:21:49
think he should have ran because you're
01:21:51
gonna forget we we forget things very
01:21:53
quickly America as much as America can
01:21:56
[ __ ] and complain were so forgiven so
01:21:58
quickly and we move on you know we we
01:22:00
like to see you fall but we like you
01:22:02
come up even more we love Redemption
01:22:04
stories this is America America is a
01:22:06
place that we're like hey man you're
01:22:08
losing your morning did you see the
01:22:09
juicy did you just oh [ __ ] I feel bad
01:22:11
hey it's okay yeah it's okay that's
01:22:13
America right that's kind of America so
01:22:15
that's what's going to happen with Trump
01:22:16
but he had his moment it was so clear so
01:22:21
clear
01:22:22
marketing team sucked who wasn't his ear
01:22:25
sucked whoever he hired
01:22:27
it's uh it's it's unfortunate and by the
01:22:29
way again this is coming from an
01:22:31
Community who are fans who are
01:22:36
supporters who voted
01:22:39
unanimously like in every possible way
01:22:42
it's for you and you did this anyways
01:22:43
watch what's happening here to
01:22:45
transition this story ramaswani closes
01:22:48
in on the sentence as Trump dominates in
01:22:50
GOP Paul the hill former president Trump
01:22:52
leads the GOP Primary uh field with 49
01:22:55
support according to recent poll by
01:22:57
Echelon insights Florida Governor Ron
01:22:59
DeSantis follows in second place with 16
01:23:01
while biotech entrepreneur Vivek
01:23:04
ramaswan is behind them with 10 ramas
01:23:06
money has been a two percentage Point
01:23:07
increase in support since a previous
01:23:10
poll conducted in May where he had eight
01:23:12
percent in contrast DeSantis has
01:23:14
experienced a three percentage drop
01:23:16
since May when he guarded 19 points
01:23:18
Congress concerns with the sentences
01:23:20
viability as a candidate has emerged
01:23:23
particularly following a glitchy Twitter
01:23:24
spaces I'm not worried about that one
01:23:26
right there his recent criticism of
01:23:27
trump post
01:23:29
support for LGBT community has drawn
01:23:31
backlash from GOP groups such as Log
01:23:33
Cabin Republicans those things I'm not
01:23:35
concerned about but the part is vivec
01:23:37
okay why why do you think vivec is
01:23:40
getting this surge what do you think is
01:23:42
getting Kim to get people to say man I
01:23:44
kind of like this guy I kind of like
01:23:46
what he has to say he's not scared to
01:23:47
open his mouth Pat like just yesterday I
01:23:50
think it was yesterday some uh lady in
01:23:52
the back uh he was doing some some talk
01:23:55
in like a like not an auditorium like an
01:23:57
open area and she's like Town Hall she's
01:23:59
like it's my body my choice I've
01:24:02
exchange where the lady was willing he's
01:24:03
like no no come back here let's have a
01:24:06
conversation she came to the stage she
01:24:08
started crying he's having I think he's
01:24:10
not scared to talk he's not scared to
01:24:12
voice the pain and Pat marketing he's
01:24:14
not saying no
01:24:16
and he's smart as hell and he's probably
01:24:19
one of the most efficient and effective
01:24:21
communicators that's running right now
01:24:22
regardless of whether you like him or
01:24:23
not he has his hand on the pulse of
01:24:25
cultural issues which would have been
01:24:27
desantis's I guess his trump card all
01:24:30
right I mean he's someone who's actually
01:24:31
not just talking about the culture War
01:24:33
he's actively fighting it but he doesn't
01:24:35
do a good job articulating it in the
01:24:37
same way that Vivek does I mean he he's
01:24:39
he's been on the daily wire before he
01:24:41
even announced he is very very he knows
01:24:43
what the average voter cares about and I
01:24:45
think if we look at what happened in
01:24:46
Virginia with Glenn junking yankin I
01:24:48
mean this isn't just oh culture War
01:24:50
stuff it doesn't matter no these issues
01:24:52
they're getting people out and they're
01:24:53
getting especially Suburban moms to vote
01:24:55
so I think he's really playing his cards
01:24:57
right just overall yeah I I love the way
01:25:00
he communicates I love the way how
01:25:01
respectful he is I love the way he
01:25:03
pushes back but more importantly I love
01:25:06
how hard he's working he's everywhere
01:25:09
you know what's one of the most
01:25:10
intimidating things to do to your
01:25:12
competitors I love doing this in the
01:25:15
insurance space or any kind of business
01:25:16
when we were first coming up in our
01:25:18
podcast that small YouTube channel we
01:25:19
had like 50 000 Subs okay valuetainment
01:25:22
we got four and a half million not the
01:25:23
time was 50 000 subs and I'm in Dallas
01:25:26
who the hell wants to interview in
01:25:27
Dallas nobody wants to go to freaking
01:25:28
Dallas the only people that are in
01:25:29
Dallas are the conservatives the only
01:25:30
person I had was the blaze at nobody
01:25:32
else I want to interview everybody but
01:25:35
everyone's in that everyone's in La
01:25:36
Miami all this stuff you know what we
01:25:38
did we'd go to New York I'd rent a hotel
01:25:40
room and I would do six seven eight
01:25:42
interviews in two days back to back to
01:25:44
back to back so I got notes like this
01:25:45
next guest next guest next guest next
01:25:48
guest next guest would go to Miami seven
01:25:50
interviews we'd go to La 12 interviews
01:25:52
and then we would have enough interviews
01:25:53
over the next two three four weeks while
01:25:55
I'm running a company while we're having
01:25:57
baby after baby after baby while I'm
01:25:58
going National visiting office all this
01:26:00
stuff is happening it's so intimidating
01:26:02
to see vivec everywhere it's as if he's
01:26:06
got triplets it's him and two other
01:26:08
brothers yeah one minute this year next
01:26:09
minute is they say how the hell are you
01:26:11
everywhere that is so draining to your
01:26:13
enemy to your competitors to say yeah
01:26:15
I'm not willing to do this unless if
01:26:17
you're willing to come to Tallahassee to
01:26:18
interview me I'm not going anywhere yeah
01:26:20
you're going to lose to God like this
01:26:22
yeah you don't lose to a guy like this
01:26:23
that's willing to go everywhere and
01:26:25
anywhere to talk to anybody he's gaining
01:26:27
that kind of respect by the way if you
01:26:29
would like to see us do a live podcast
01:26:32
at 59.90 live with vivec I'm talking
01:26:35
town hall where you can ask him
01:26:37
questions if you would like to do that
01:26:39
text award podcast to
01:26:48
310-340-1132-310-340-1132 text award
01:26:49
podcast at that number we are thinking
01:26:52
about who to have next I'm doing a July
01:26:54
20th live podcast those tickets that
01:26:56
have already sold out but the next one
01:26:58
we're doing we're talking to potentially
01:27:00
many different camps if you'd like to
01:27:02
see a live podcast with Vivek again text
01:27:04
award podcast to
01:27:07
310-340-1132 next topic sound of Freedom
01:27:09
have you seen the movie yet so a lot of
01:27:11
people have asked me this uh as a new
01:27:13
mom I don't think I can emotionally
01:27:15
handle it just because of the subject
01:27:17
matter and I I cry during Pixar movies
01:27:19
that would be a total mess have you seen
01:27:21
Elemental I yes I did get it I didn't
01:27:23
even like the movie I got teary ad I'm
01:27:25
very very easy so so I saw the movie so
01:27:28
here's what happens we're in uh Bahamas
01:27:30
uh and we're trying to find movie
01:27:32
theater to go see this we can't find it
01:27:33
finally tikra finds the movie I'm like
01:27:35
[ __ ] we're going with 25 of us and the
01:27:37
kids want to watch Indiana Jones what do
01:27:39
we do so Indiana Jones is playing at one
01:27:40
o'clock sound of freedoms playing at two
01:27:42
uh two o'clock good news Indiana Jones a
01:27:45
two and a half hour movie which is great
01:27:46
because we got like a 30 minute so we go
01:27:47
into Indiana Jones we're watching
01:27:49
Indiana Jones and then me Matt sapala
01:27:51
Sheena tikram with sneak out and we go
01:27:54
to what sound of Freedom we're sitting
01:27:55
there
01:27:56
and from the beginning you're going to
01:27:59
feel the pain of the father taking his
01:28:02
kids a daughter and a son who is
01:28:05
approached by a recruiter saying your
01:28:07
kids can be models they can be in movies
01:28:10
he says tonight audition is at such and
01:28:12
such time today the audition is
01:28:14
tomorrow's audition is such a such time
01:28:15
father dresses in a suit takes him to
01:28:17
this room
01:28:18
and he takes the kids there they're
01:28:20
excited put the kids in the room and the
01:28:22
girl says come back to pick them up at
01:28:24
seven o'clock he said what do you mean
01:28:25
come back to pick him up at seven
01:28:26
o'clock he leaves comes back seven
01:28:28
o'clock no one's there shut down that's
01:28:30
how the movie starts by the way
01:28:33
it's disturbing it's emotional it's
01:28:36
tough it's painful at the end Jim
01:28:39
Caviezel gives a message when the movie
01:28:42
ends three minutes later he's given a
01:28:43
message profound message that you have
01:28:45
to watch
01:28:46
the stats that they gave that uh 20 plus
01:28:50
million child pornography pictures were
01:28:53
uploaded on the internet the last year a
01:28:55
five thousand percent increase in the
01:28:58
last five years the idea what they said
01:29:00
every year two million kids going to
01:29:02
trafficking going into being sold in a
01:29:05
black market and then stats about how
01:29:08
you can sell cocaine one time but you
01:29:10
can sell the same child five to ten
01:29:13
times a day for 10 years is what you can
01:29:18
do and it's a 150 billion dollar a year
01:29:21
industry and Jim is in it the story of
01:29:25
Tim Ballard what he did and then while
01:29:28
this is going on everybody everybody
01:29:30
needs to go watch it I'm taking I want
01:29:32
to watch it first it's a decision you
01:29:34
need to make I want to watch it first I
01:29:36
know what it is to be a you know I don't
01:29:37
know what it is to be a mother but I
01:29:38
have a wife that's had four kids and I
01:29:40
know how tough it is for a mother to see
01:29:41
it then a father our perspective is more
01:29:43
protective yours is more you gave birth
01:29:45
it's your body
01:29:47
um I recommend everybody to go watch
01:29:49
this thing here and share it with
01:29:51
everyone you know because this has
01:29:52
really taken place this led us to
01:29:54
yesterday having a conversation with
01:29:55
many of the people in Glendale that are
01:29:57
going through the challenges they're
01:29:58
having with gusd with the zoom yesterday
01:30:00
we're excited about launching the event
01:30:01
in Glendale the biggest concern right
01:30:03
now is every major Hotel will announce
01:30:05
what these places are and we'll give the
01:30:06
names out to people no has said no every
01:30:09
Armenian Hall in Glendale has said come
01:30:11
and do the event on what's going on with
01:30:12
LAUSD and gust with what kind of content
01:30:15
they're trying to put into schools and
01:30:17
we will announce the date here very soon
01:30:18
first we're going to announce that
01:30:19
underground because we want the right
01:30:21
people to show up then I'll announce it
01:30:23
publicly and everyone's worried about
01:30:25
you know rioting protesting all this
01:30:28
other stuff here's the point while this
01:30:30
movie comes out and it's doing so well
01:30:31
can you show up how Rolling Stone
01:30:34
responded to
01:30:36
I send you those different screenshots
01:30:37
when I airdropped it to you what Rolling
01:30:40
Stone said about cuties versus this what
01:30:43
different platforms said about cuties
01:30:44
versus this and by the way while you're
01:30:46
looking for that maybe show the clip of
01:30:47
the video of what the CNN person said
01:30:49
about this if you know which one I'm
01:30:51
talking about where the CNN is asking
01:30:54
the question so what do you think about
01:30:55
this movie you know there's a lot of
01:30:57
people that are saying that there's some
01:30:59
right-wing Q Anon you know what do you
01:31:02
think about this and this guest you
01:31:03
should see what this gets right there if
01:31:05
you can make that bigger you should see
01:31:07
what this guest says about this movie
01:31:09
familiar with him watch his goal we play
01:31:11
this of course watch this
01:31:13
and you seem pretty familiar with him
01:31:16
because he doesn't really hide his
01:31:18
association with this real wild plot
01:31:22
that that involves you know drinking the
01:31:25
blood of children and things like that
01:31:27
no he doesn't hide it at all and you
01:31:30
have a lot of people who are in this
01:31:31
world of Q Anon who say oh they don't
01:31:33
know what that is they've never heard of
01:31:34
it they're just asking questions with
01:31:36
somebody like Jim Caviezel he is openly
01:31:39
embracing it he's openly using its catch
01:31:41
phrases and its Concepts he's speaking
01:31:42
at Q Anon conventions and this film is
01:31:45
being marketed to either specific Q Anon
01:31:48
Believers or to people who believe all
01:31:50
of the same tenets as Q Anon but claim
01:31:53
they don't know what it is
01:31:55
and the sound of Freedom does focus on a
01:31:57
real issue of sex trafficking but that
01:32:00
theme it's sort of like that kernel of
01:32:03
truth that feeds the Q Anon conspiracy
01:32:06
theory tell us how those two things work
01:32:09
together
01:32:12
sure and the most durable and the most
01:32:14
believable conspiracy theories are not
01:32:16
entirely false there's something in them
01:32:18
that is true and the rest of it is false
01:32:20
but the Believers point to the one true
01:32:22
thing and they say oh you don't believe
01:32:24
that this particular thing is true in
01:32:25
terms of child trafficking we know
01:32:27
trafficking is real we know it has real
01:32:29
victims no one is denying that but these
01:32:31
films are created out of moral panics
01:32:34
they're created out of bogus statistics
01:32:36
they're created out of fear and with
01:32:38
something like sound of Freedom it
01:32:40
specifically is looking at keyword on
01:32:42
concepts of these child trafficking
01:32:44
rings that are run by the high-level
01:32:46
Elites and only people like Tim Ballard
01:32:49
and only people like Jim Caviezel and by
01:32:51
extension only people like the ticket
01:32:52
buyer can help bring these trafficking
01:32:55
Rings down so there's a very
01:32:56
participatory element you're not just
01:32:58
going to see a movie you're just killing
01:32:59
two hours on a hot day you are helping
01:33:02
bring down these these pedophile rings
01:33:04
and save children now it's not true but
01:33:06
it's a very comforting and it's a very
01:33:08
warm feeling you know why you have to
01:33:09
trust this guy Pat he has books behind
01:33:11
them anyway that sits with books smart
01:33:13
but but notice it if you work out you're
01:33:16
a white ring you're you're a white
01:33:17
supremacist whatever if you're by the
01:33:20
way this movie was docked like they
01:33:21
actually have footage of everything that
01:33:23
happened uh Tim Ballard because it
01:33:26
happened did you see the movie I saw
01:33:28
them oh you saw it well I saw the movie
01:33:30
and uh I was telling Pat some some crazy
01:33:33
moments or what they actually had
01:33:34
footage undercover footage or
01:33:36
surveillance footage of people in third
01:33:39
world countries and stuff going up to
01:33:40
people like a kid wanders in the street
01:33:42
they grab them in a van and they're gone
01:33:44
it's not a conspiracy theorist and then
01:33:47
it begs the question when people are
01:33:48
like why does one side uh want uh open
01:33:52
borders and why is it if you think about
01:33:54
it pat there's an effect 350
01:33:57
000 unaccompanied miners come across the
01:33:58
border since 2021 till right now 85 000
01:34:02
of them have gone missing and then that
01:34:04
begs the question why is one side just
01:34:07
like no the board is secure my York is
01:34:09
that little rat no the board is open
01:34:10
that is just an end inventory of just
01:34:13
human beings coming in and it's like for
01:34:15
them to say that it's Q Anon and it's
01:34:18
fake it's like they're almost they don't
01:34:19
want people messing with their influx of
01:34:22
children it's a huge problem and yes
01:34:24
they made money off this movie but now
01:34:26
look how many people are talking about
01:34:27
sex trafficking and these and these kids
01:34:30
and at least somebody now is opening
01:34:32
their mouth and by the way this movie
01:34:33
was made five years ago I don't know if
01:34:34
you guys yeah this movie's old now it's
01:34:36
which movie that sounds Freedom yeah
01:34:38
nobody wanted to put on go ahead lord
01:34:40
well it was it was made by Fox before
01:34:42
the Disney acquisition so then Disney
01:34:44
they essentially didn't release it they
01:34:46
didn't want to release it they sold it
01:34:48
to this other studio and the studio
01:34:49
actually had to crowdfund to get a
01:34:51
theatrical release so that's kind of
01:34:53
what's ironic about the fact that it did
01:34:54
beat Indiana Jones at least for one
01:34:56
weekend is that this could have been
01:34:58
money going to Disney but it's also kind
01:35:00
of suspicious why didn't Disney want to
01:35:02
release this movie was it not in line
01:35:04
with their their branding and by the way
01:35:07
isn't Disney a kids channel isn't it
01:35:09
like about kids and protecting kids so
01:35:10
why wouldn't you want to protect kids
01:35:13
worldwide is that kind of weird perhaps
01:35:15
they don't really want it and isn't a
01:35:16
shock and learn that they're
01:35:17
they're in all this stuff
01:35:20
this stuff like
01:35:23
for a fact that this happened he was
01:35:25
murdered don't believe the hype he was
01:35:27
suicide himself that's all [ __ ] uh
01:35:30
CNN producers didn't caught left and
01:35:31
right for for pedophilia the the numbers
01:35:34
are staggering it's in the news it's not
01:35:36
reported a lot and just just perverted
01:35:39
people have to catch a predator do you
01:35:40
guys know that show yes we had Chris
01:35:42
Hanson on here guess what that show
01:35:44
couldn't be can run every single day for
01:35:48
forever because there's an imp there's
01:35:50
there's no shortage of pedophiles the
01:35:53
only reason that shows stop is because
01:35:54
one of these idiot demons ran in the
01:35:57
house and killed himself and that's
01:35:58
what's frustrating about that CNN guy
01:36:00
he's acting like moral outrage over this
01:36:02
is bad or unwarranted she's asking oh
01:36:05
it's to spread fear yeah you should be
01:36:06
afraid for your children you should be
01:36:08
actively trying to prevent this why is
01:36:10
more outrage bad when this is something
01:36:12
that's objectively evil this is an area
01:36:14
to be intolerant in like zero tolerance
01:36:18
for this by the way watch this so
01:36:20
rolling stone look look how different
01:36:21
the the titles are sound of freedom is a
01:36:24
superhero movie for dads with brain
01:36:26
worms the Q Anon thing the Thriller
01:36:29
about child trafficking is designed to
01:36:30
appeal the conscience of a conspiracy
01:36:33
adult Boomer okay pretty wild now let's
01:36:36
go to the next one watch this next one
01:36:37
here the guardian cuties review
01:36:39
Netflix's controversial child
01:36:41
exploitation film is bold flawed and
01:36:44
misunderstood
01:36:45
misunderstood okay so here's the next
01:36:47
one cuties review a coming-of-age movie
01:36:50
Caught in the culture wars thanks to a
01:36:53
major marketing mistake this
01:36:54
award-winning French movie has been
01:36:56
accused of sexualizing girls it's
01:36:58
actually a sensitive portrait of growing
01:37:01
pains that deserve to be seen oh you are
01:37:03
the enemy kidding go to the next one
01:37:05
okay the human traffic film sound of
01:37:07
Freedom trash by liberal Outlets as Q
01:37:09
Anon uh adjacent so when you when you
01:37:12
see this then go to the article about
01:37:15
post-millennial
01:37:17
that talks about if you can pull this up
01:37:19
that talks about uh Rolling Stone
01:37:21
editor-in-chief Spike reporting on
01:37:24
friend getting arrested for child porn
01:37:26
this was a story from March of uh 21st
01:37:30
of this year if you want to go to page
01:37:31
24 uh if you can pull that up that
01:37:33
picture right there good that's the
01:37:34
article right there I'll read it to you
01:37:36
so Rolling Stone Editor in Chief Noah uh
01:37:39
shacked men removed references to child
01:37:41
pornography charges from a story about
01:37:43
ABC's producer James Gordon Meek who was
01:37:46
later charged with possessing child
01:37:47
pornography shackman who was friendly
01:37:50
with Meek edited the piece and Earth
01:37:52
journalist Tatiana Siegel not to include
01:37:54
the words child pornography in the story
01:37:57
claiming that the FBI's interest in Meek
01:37:59
was unrelated to National Security or
01:38:01
journalism shacklin's decision to edit
01:38:03
the story and remove key information
01:38:04
about the child pornography pornography
01:38:06
investigation race concerns within
01:38:08
Rolling Stone Siegel was reportedly not
01:38:10
aware of the changes until the article
01:38:12
was published and was angered by what
01:38:14
she saw as interference shackmans
01:38:16
Justified is that it's by stating that
01:38:19
Siegel had not adequately verified her
01:38:22
sources when you read this stuff this is
01:38:25
what we ought to be intolerant towards
01:38:28
right and there I don't know if you guys
01:38:30
are familiar with the meme from Oren
01:38:31
McIntyre uh don't make me tap the sign
01:38:33
and it's just this post that says it's
01:38:35
not that complicated they just wanted
01:38:36
little kids and I think we all have a
01:38:38
normalcy bias where we would like to
01:38:39
think this is just not that common
01:38:41
shadowy it doesn't really affect our
01:38:43
lives but this is like you said it's
01:38:45
everywhere it's very common it's too
01:38:47
common and there are a lot of policies
01:38:48
that we could actively change that would
01:38:50
prevent this things like closing the
01:38:52
Border because there is a huge porous I
01:38:54
mean I remember uh what is it Melania
01:38:56
Trump she got made fun of when she was
01:38:58
talking about the coyotes uh on that
01:39:01
recorded tape and how that was an issue
01:39:02
I mean the left-wing media is like what
01:39:04
is she things happening blah blah blah
01:39:06
like you don't have to say anything
01:39:07
about it but the fact that you're even
01:39:09
going out of your way to discredit this
01:39:12
problem it's very suspicious that's all
01:39:14
it's very they're protecting they're
01:39:16
protecting their own like that's that's
01:39:17
that's how the left operates for that
01:39:19
imagine that guy's name was Miles Clee
01:39:21
the Rolling Stone guy who locked down
01:39:23
his Twitter account like a [ __ ] because
01:39:25
every he couldn't take the Flack of like
01:39:27
you mean to tell me girls twerking is a
01:39:30
coming of age in a culture like what the
01:39:33
hell would you qualify that as whole
01:39:35
tendency for him too
01:39:36
okay yeah Rob I just sent you something
01:39:39
on how grooming Works check this out if
01:39:41
you can play with show this Meme here
01:39:42
Rob I just text you and I put it on your
01:39:44
computer so the question then becomes a
01:39:46
follow-up right we got five more minutes
01:39:47
here before we wrap up I wish we had
01:39:49
more time and we got like so many
01:39:50
freaking stories to go through but I got
01:39:51
11 o'clock Max seven call so if you can
01:39:53
pull this up does this work is this an
01:39:55
effective strategy well here we go let
01:39:58
me just show you this picture here from
01:40:00
a kid in 2015 to 2022 that's the kid on
01:40:05
the left now grown man on the Right
01:40:08
Bingo grooming works it's actually very
01:40:10
uh effective strategy and yes you can
01:40:14
convert do to your environment do I did
01:40:17
a video on um the the history of lgbtq
01:40:21
the dark exposed the dark history and I
01:40:24
got a lot of messages about a piece of
01:40:25
powder I don't know if you should upload
01:40:26
this I don't know if you haven't seen
01:40:28
that clip I suggest you go watch it
01:40:30
because it tells you
01:40:31
how it got started and and how was
01:40:34
categorized just in 1973 50 years ago
01:40:37
and what's been happening with this this
01:40:40
level of growth and conversion of people
01:40:42
by Generations you know how they say the
01:40:44
older generation doesn't give a [ __ ]
01:40:46
like the older generation doesn't give a
01:40:47
[ __ ] what you think about them like dude
01:40:49
if they're going to smoke weed guess
01:40:50
what who the hell are you I'm 75 years
01:40:51
I'm gonna show what you think about me
01:40:53
who cares more the younger generation or
01:40:55
the older generation about what other
01:40:56
people think younger the younger the
01:40:59
older generation doesn't give a [ __ ] do
01:41:00
you know traditionalist what percentage
01:41:02
of traditionalists this is a generation
01:41:04
before Boomers you know what Precision
01:41:06
of traditionals are gay 1.7 percent do
01:41:09
you know what percentage of gen Z is
01:41:11
getting 25 19.7 wow so the generation
01:41:14
that cares more about what people think
01:41:16
you haven't seen this that's cool this
01:41:17
up right I saw the Bill Maher the
01:41:19
generation the generation that doesn't
01:41:22
give a [ __ ] about what you and I think
01:41:24
only 1.7 percent of them are gay the
01:41:27
generation that gives a [ __ ] about what
01:41:29
everybody thinks 20 is gay oh it's not
01:41:31
big because of environment they're born
01:41:33
this way oh yeah yeah you're you're
01:41:34
totally right there's still 20. you
01:41:37
haven't seen this I don't know if you in
01:41:38
your video talk about the twin studies
01:41:40
that they've done so they uh they do
01:41:42
studies or they did some studies on
01:41:44
identical twins so if if sexuality is
01:41:47
inherent you're born with it it's in
01:41:48
your DNA you would expect that 100 of
01:41:50
identical twins would share a sexuality
01:41:51
I both gave both straight what have you
01:41:54
but what they've actually found is that
01:41:55
that is not the case there are many many
01:41:57
examples of identical twins that have
01:41:58
different sexualities indicating that
01:42:00
for at least some people yeah there
01:42:02
there is a a nurture aspect of it and
01:42:04
what's really interesting is that women
01:42:06
more so than men were likely to have a
01:42:08
different sexual identity than their
01:42:10
identical twins so that means that
01:42:12
women's sexuality or whatever you might
01:42:14
call it is even more fluid than that of
01:42:16
men's and when we see the explosion LGBT
01:42:19
identities guess what it's mainly in
01:42:20
young teen girls who are saying they're
01:42:22
bisexual they're pansexual they're
01:42:24
gender fluid or whatever it is but by
01:42:26
the way this is this is the poll from
01:42:27
2021 the one I quoted was from 2023 but
01:42:30
even better look at this gen Z 20.8
01:42:32
percent identifies lgbtq look at
01:42:35
traditionalists before 1946.8 the 0.8
01:42:38
doesn't give a [ __ ] about what we think
01:42:39
less than one percent of them are gay
01:42:41
okay the Gen Z that cares about what
01:42:43
everybody thinks about them one out of
01:42:45
five well I think there's a recent
01:42:47
report that says for Brown University I
01:42:50
want to say I don't know if it's that
01:42:51
specifically but 40 of students identify
01:42:53
as LGBT I wonder why last thing last
01:42:56
thing to do here with five minutes left
01:42:57
guys is Jamie Diamond Jamie Diamond gave
01:43:00
a speech if he can pull that up Rob if
01:43:01
you have it Jamie Diamond gives a speech
01:43:03
uh he's at a conference I don't know
01:43:05
where he's at and they ask him about
01:43:06
America he gives the speech I retweeted
01:43:09
this and I said anybody that's willing
01:43:12
to sell America like this guys I wish
01:43:14
there was more the reason why I like
01:43:16
seeing I respect anybody who runs
01:43:19
whatever country they run they should be
01:43:20
a nationalist of their country being
01:43:23
proud when Putin sells uh Russia and his
01:43:25
approval rating is the highest in the
01:43:27
world that thinks that 80 or something
01:43:28
when he sells Russia and we bash America
01:43:31
and the approval rating of ours is low
01:43:34
well our history we have a bad history
01:43:36
we're this we're that look at what Jimmy
01:43:38
Diamond says here go for it
01:43:39
the other way around America has the
01:43:41
best hand ever dealt of any country on
01:43:43
this planet today ever
01:43:45
okay and Americans don't fully
01:43:48
appreciate what I'm about to say we have
01:43:50
peaceful wonderful Neighbors in Canada
01:43:52
and Mexico
01:43:53
we've got the biggest military barriers
01:43:56
ever built called the Atlantic and the
01:43:57
Pacific
01:43:58
we have all the food water and energy we
01:44:01
will ever need
01:44:02
okay we have the best military on the
01:44:04
planet and we will for as long as we
01:44:07
have the best economy and if you're a
01:44:09
liberal listen closely to me in that one
01:44:10
okay because the Chinese would love to
01:44:12
have our economy we have the best
01:44:14
universities on the planet they're great
01:44:15
ones elsewhere but these are the best we
01:44:16
still educate uh you know most of most
01:44:19
of the kids who start businesses around
01:44:21
the world we have a rule of law which is
01:44:24
exceptional if you don't believe me and
01:44:25
we talk about Britain Brazil Russia and
01:44:27
the Venezuela Argentina uh China India
01:44:30
believe me it's not quite there we have
01:44:32
a magnificent work ethic we have
01:44:34
Innovation from the core of our bones
01:44:36
you can ask anyone in this room what can
01:44:38
you do to be more productive ask your
01:44:39
assistance Factory floors we do it it's
01:44:41
not just the Steve Jobs it's the broad
01:44:43
death where the wise and deepest
01:44:45
financial markets the world's ever seen
01:44:47
okay and if you I just made a list of
01:44:49
these things and maybe I missed
01:44:51
something go it's extraordinary
01:44:53
it's extraordinary it is America yes we
01:44:57
have problems
01:44:58
by the way do you know when this speech
01:45:01
was from no take a guess
01:45:04
I don't care if it's 10 years ago a
01:45:06
month ago or a day that's my point I
01:45:08
don't care no that's great it's Timeless
01:45:10
yeah that's my point the speech was in
01:45:11
2016. America think about where we've
01:45:14
come
01:45:15
in the last eight years seven years
01:45:18
since this speech it's as it's as
01:45:19
relevant and as poignant as ever and
01:45:22
he's being called upon by what Bill
01:45:24
Ackman these days left and right bro you
01:45:26
gotta run now's your chance not your
01:45:27
chance you know he's 67 years old worth
01:45:30
almost two billion dollars by the way
01:45:31
forget about the fact that he's 67 or
01:45:33
two billion dollars you know he's got a
01:45:34
900 million dollar art collection and a
01:45:37
secret building he's built but have you
01:45:39
seen this thing pull up Jamie diamonds
01:45:41
900 million dollars let me tell you more
01:45:43
about this guy do you know he was an
01:45:45
assistant a personal assistant to Sandy
01:45:47
wow you're not what company in 1982
01:45:50
American Express that's where this guy
01:45:52
got started as an assistant to Sandy
01:45:54
well and more importantly today
01:45:56
do you know how much money every day
01:45:59
circulates with Chase 10 trillion
01:46:01
dollars a day in 170 countries in 120
01:46:05
different currencies that's this guy one
01:46:07
of his famous quotes he said
01:46:09
uh if you don't bring up the problem to
01:46:11
me it's your problem
01:46:13
if you bring up the problem to me it's
01:46:15
our problem trust me you want to bring
01:46:17
me the problem okay I'm prefacing what
01:46:20
he said but this but again yes the
01:46:22
Epstein stuff what happened in 2013 when
01:46:24
they stopped doing business with Epstein
01:46:25
and they said look we don't want you to
01:46:26
be here they cancel an account even
01:46:27
though he was with them for 30 years and
01:46:29
they say oh we never communicated with
01:46:30
them there was like 1200 email exchanges
01:46:32
with one of the guys Staley that was
01:46:34
working there there is that side of it
01:46:36
but the point here is we need more
01:46:38
people in America to sell America 100 I
01:46:41
don't give your military I don't care if
01:46:43
you're a capitalist I don't care if
01:46:44
you're a politician I don't care if
01:46:45
you're in a media space sell America we
01:46:48
have such a great argument to keep
01:46:50
selling America I'll give you the final
01:46:53
thoughts here before we wrap up well
01:46:54
this is going to be a very nerdy final
01:46:56
thought but I'm not sure if you're
01:46:57
familiar with the work of Charles Murray
01:46:58
uh the bell curve gets a bad rap but he
01:47:01
talks about how America is one of the
01:47:02
few countries where it's actually better
01:47:03
to be born smart than it is to be born
01:47:05
rich just because you have the idea of
01:47:07
self-determination it's one of the few
01:47:09
places where you can work hard and get
01:47:11
what you are worth which is not the case
01:47:13
for the vast majority of countries out
01:47:14
there and it's something that we take
01:47:15
for granted that was basically how he
01:47:17
ended his speech I know you got to run
01:47:20
odds he actually runs and what party he
01:47:22
would run give me five percent here's
01:47:25
his answer when they ask him if he's a
01:47:26
Republican or Democrat he said my heart
01:47:28
in my heart I'm a democrat in my brain
01:47:31
I'm a republican he's always kind of by
01:47:33
the way that's kind of like the script
01:47:34
on you to see over big bang or Goldman
01:47:36
Sachs you have to say that yeah but it's
01:47:37
less than five percent I think what is
01:47:39
going to happen is the sooner they get
01:47:42
rid of Biden the sooner people are going
01:47:44
to get in does he have a shot Jamie
01:47:47
can't speak he can sell his charismatic
01:47:49
he's he's talked to everybody he knows
01:47:52
Finance he knows politics he's been
01:47:53
around he's done the power plays the
01:47:55
guy's a genius the guy you know he's got
01:47:58
a philosophy that he follows called The
01:47:59
Fortress philosophy and you know what
01:48:01
his philosophy is have a ton of cash he
01:48:03
had a ton of cash when they bought it
01:48:05
it's a very good philosophy to have yeah
01:48:07
so I think five percent chance but it
01:48:09
has a lot to do with what happens here
01:48:11
soon the sooner they fire Biden the
01:48:12
sooner he can get in it all depends on
01:48:14
how quickly they do that here's what I
01:48:16
do want to do if you guys enjoyed Lauren
01:48:18
today do me a favor please go to our
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YouTube channel below if you can put the
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01:48:46
hopefully we'll do it again in the
01:48:47
future in the next 18 months while this
01:48:49
crazy election Cycle's taking place yeah
01:48:51
I'd love to and again thank you so much
01:48:52
for the opportunity it's been a good
01:48:54
time fantastic and we're back Thursday
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again who are we with on Thursday
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Charlie Kirk from turning Channel
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fantastic so gang we'll see you guys on
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Thursday take care everybody bye bye

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