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how do you reflect on your time at man
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united I love my time there I don't
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think media helped me I refused great
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working opportunities the first one was
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even very very hard to to refuse because
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was Portugal I could be that coach in
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the national team also yours I had it
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there on the table no way yeah I didn't
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because um I gave everything I gave my
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heart I gave even options that could be
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considered not very clever by the
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professional point of view Cristiano
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Ronaldo do you even coach him I think
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you don't coach Jose we need to know
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what is next welcome back to five Steven
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hon Rio Ferdinand and today we have got
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Jose Mourinho the special one we have
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got him exclusively this is presented by
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football.com this is part one there's
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going to be a few episodes if you want
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the full audio you can check the link in
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the description for the full audio
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download in this part we're going to be
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talking about as Roma what happened and
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we're going to be talking about his
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entire career in this one so let's check
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it out Jose firstly thank you very much
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for for allowing us to come and speak to
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you here in rainy Lisbon I know can't I
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know I feel ashamed is a is an attack to
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our Prestige I had sunglasses I had
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suntan lotion I know me too me too I
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come to Lisbon with his intention to so
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listen I think we there's only one place
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to kick off I think the recent news
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obviously Roma your depart there I
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actually can't believe we're here
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sitting talking to you with that as the
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backdrop because two backto back finals
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the fans in the stadium full up I could
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see from just from England looking in
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how much the fans adored you there what
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kind of happened and you got us to here
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now owner
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decision and you have to respect don't
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even discuss you know um
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of
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course I feel and I believe that you
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feel the same as as me that uh the fans
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are always the
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heart of a football club without them no
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football club but there is an ownership
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and when the owner decides you have just
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respect is is that what would you say
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that one of the most painful kind of
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exits for you because it was so sudden I
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can say is is the one that hurted me
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more I can I can say that you can ask me
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why because I gave uh I gave everything
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I gave my heart I gave even
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some options that could be considered um
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not very clever by the professional
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point of view I
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refused great working opportunities
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uh the first one was was even very very
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hard to to refuse because was Portugal
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and Portugal with probably national team
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national team with probably the the best
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national team
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ever three years before um a World Cup
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then I had
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uh a big one from from Sai I I didn't um
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I didn't hide it at at the time because
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was was
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really was really big and I did it for
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uh I don't say the first time
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but normally I'm very pragmatic in my
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choices I'm very professional in my
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choices I try always to
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be very emotionally controlled and you
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could see that for example when I left
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other clubs um after winning finals and
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this kind of thing and in this case I
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was not pragmatic I was emot I give
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everything so in the end uh when I left
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I left
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um I hurt it uh I had
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uh I have the the great feeling of uh I
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gave so much happiness to the people um
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because two finals in a two European
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finals in a row doesn't happen often
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especially in a club like like Roma
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without a big history of um European
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success
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and then I was walking in the street and
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the people take us to Dublin take us to
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Dublin take us to Dublin and I I had
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that Dublin in in my mind I had that
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third European Final in a row in my mind
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but then you have to respect uh the
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owner is always the owner and uh you
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have to respect the decision which is
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what I'm doing now did you feel like you
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got your Spar back at Roma because you
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look like you got your Spar back at Roma
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I don't want to speak about Roma more
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than what with is
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especially going
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into um the intimacy of of myself and
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the football club I I always felt this
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way I always did it this this way uh
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it's not the first time I left the club
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uh it's probably the first time I I am
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feeling it in a different way but I
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always felt that is the right way to to
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do it you know you leave the club by
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your decision by the club decision and
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then you move on you try to learn from
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the experience you try to be better for
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the next one but I don't like to dig in
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and I I don't even like to speak
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publicly about it just I want to talk
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about about you as well I think I played
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against your team is always difficult to
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play against always hard games it's
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still difficult but when I played
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personally was you played you played
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against uh Chelsea big rivals and you
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play against teams with the same
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potential as yours with the same
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ambition as as as your team team we were
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playing to win it you were playing to
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win it so let's say from strength to
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strength I say that even when my team is
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not um a top team even when my team is
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not a team with more potential is always
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difficult to play against it's always
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difficult to play against us because we
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we start always from from the base that
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um a team has to be a team and then of
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course you you have that by by your
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experience when you
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had the team with the best players is
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different than you have a team without
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the best players but it's it's true I
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feel I feel exactly exactly that way and
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sometimes when I I see football when
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it's too easy for the better team to
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beat the team with less potential I
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always ask myself why and how is it
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possible because I always feel that a
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team even if it isn't the team with more
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potential has to make it difficult
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because by by organization by tactical
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work and by a very strong mentality even
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if you are not the team with more
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potential you still can do it not do it
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in the sense of winning titles because
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to win titles you need of course big
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potential but to give you the feeling
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that you had to play against that guy is
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always difficult I think I think has to
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be always difficult part of the question
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was is like that creating those teams
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and creating help creating that culture
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within those
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teams what's the difference between
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doing it maybe them years ago the teams
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I paid against compared to the current
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type of generation of players now what's
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the difference being able to create
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those
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cultures because it's new AG I think
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what you are speaking about different
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Generations I I I was going in the
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initial part of my of my answer I was
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going more in in the difference of
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potential um in the difference of
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potential I think it creates also a
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different way of playing and creates
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also a different way of
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approaching I I always say you have to
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be arrogant on the pitch when your team
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is the best one and you have to be more
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cautious when your team is not the best
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one when your team is the best you have
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to show your power when your team is not
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the best you have to hide or try to hide
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your problems to try to create balance
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going from generation to to
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generation I
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just I don't have the feeling
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of
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um previous generations are better than
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now
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or people of 20 years ago
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has a different approach to what people
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has now I think in the end
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the same
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ingredients are there but of course we
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we can feel that looking just
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to to you uh it is a great podcast isn't
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it I hope it is
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uh 25 years ago podcasts no no podcasts
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so communication was very very different
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I feel that a journalist now um what is
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a journalist now
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do you know what I mean um what was a
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coach or a manager 25 years ago what is
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now is also difficult to compare and in
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relation to to the players is also
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difficult to is also difficult to
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compare there is uh uh an evolution in
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in everything and there is an evolution
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in in terms of mentality um years ago
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probably I thought there is my
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ideal of what a player should be there
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is my ideal of what a professional
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should be but to transport this in pure
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terms to today I think is wrong because
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we are speaking about a complete
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different about a complete different um
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different world what for US 20 years ago
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was impossible to happen now happen and
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is impossible to change social media is
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a big thing as well you know when I was
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uh an assist coach in in in Barcelona
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was the beginning of the of the the
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mobile phones um and was forbidden for
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the players to be on the mobile
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phone you think it's forbidden now half
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time they on the phone no almost or
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maybe or maybe or maybe yes so you have
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to adapt to to that I think I adapted
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very very well I think I adapted very
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very well to that uh I like to feel
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young and to feel young uh when you work
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among amongst the the Young young guys
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you just have to to adapt but trying to
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keep a certain line of what a
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professional has to has to be or what a
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professional should uh should be and I
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think we are in a world where um people
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makes football players more individual
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they're more individual in in in
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everything the way they think the
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personal Ambitions the people around
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them the structure around them
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um the club has a nutritionist but they
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have one the club has a huge structure
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of sport Science but they have their man
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um probably one day
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um a great coaching stuff but maybe at
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home the goalkeeper coach has another
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goalkeeper the goalkeeper has another
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goalkeeper coach everything becomes more
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individual and I think uh the fight if
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you can call it a a fight is to try
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to make these individuals be be a team
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be a team I think this is the the
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fundamental the fundamental fight if you
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can call it a fight what do you think is
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most important then when you're trying
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to build a team is it the raw ability or
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is it
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character in relation to the
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individuality well building just
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building a team to win you know I think
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the the first thing to to build a proper
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team is the connection
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is the connection between the
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structures the
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players um and I think you will laugh of
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it the players are very intelligent
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intelligent
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yeah um if not in intelligent in terms
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of IQ because not everyone of course is
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but that
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specific intelligent the feeling of
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analyzing things of feeling things of
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reading things even in between the lines
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the players are very clar ever the
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players are very very intelligent they
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look and they understand they look to
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each other and without a word and
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without a word they know what they are
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saying I I think they feel the strength
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and they feel the
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fragility and in this moment where the
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structures of the clubs are very complex
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I think it's very important that the
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players they feel that they are
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complex but they are compact in your
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time you just need to look to Sir Alex
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look at him and in two seconds you
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understand what you have in front of you
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and then you
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respect maybe a little bit of fear but
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not I prefer to say respect and then you
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trust and then you believe and then you
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know that if you make something wrong
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you are in trouble is not in trouble you
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know that you are not going to
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manipulate anybody you don't care about
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the
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press and everything is clear everything
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is clear In This Moment the structures
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are very complex but but I think the
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structures must be building in a way
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where complexity doesn't
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mean
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problems uh and sometimes that
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complexity has to be transformed in
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something where is easy for the players
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to understand that there are no
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conflicts there is empathy and there is
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you know something strong behind the
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players behind or before the players uh
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performance I think this is the most
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important thing when you have this and
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you have a good communication between
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the structure I think anything is is
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possible I want to move on to things
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like the rivales you've played in some
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huge clubs I mean manag huge clubs um
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where where would you say the biggest
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rivalries have been because it seems
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intense in at Roma but equally if not
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more in Madrid Chelsea in London where
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where's in Porto as well where's been
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the the Rivalry you've gone oh my God
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that is different you know I you
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know it is everywhere to be honest
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uh Roma Spain Portugal is hard uh
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England I believe with more with more
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discipline but the rivalries of course
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you know that they are very very strong
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in Latin countries in Latin cultures
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becomes maybe you can feel more the
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emotion of it um even on the negative
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side even with some aggression even with
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some violence before after matches
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England is I believe a much more
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structured nowadays um luckily uh
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without this level of problems but I
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would say that um my times uh at Real
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Madrid um this years in Real Madrid were
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years of a huge rivalry with Barcelona M
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also because was not just the cultural
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and historical rivalry but also the
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moment the moment um I don't want to say
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the best players in the world because of
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course England always
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had incredible players but maybe in that
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moment there the best Cristiano the best
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Messi uh the best
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um Ben the best uain the best inesta Mar
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di Mar everything everything was was
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there Barcelona the best the best team
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in in the world Real Madrid trying
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trying to change that perspective in the
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same season league matches super Cup
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matches Cup finals Champions League
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quarterfinals everything all together
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and I felt that in that period there the
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world stopped
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for Barca real real Barca the world stop
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there and we were feeling uh that then
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one one season Barcelona wins it then
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the next season Real Madrid win it
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was beautiful beautiful but I think
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um if I could say it because of the
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intensity at every level was probably
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was probably there then do you enjoy
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that I I remember big pressure
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situations Champions League semi-final
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finals the rivalries in the moment I
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don't think I really ever enjoyed it I
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was in more relief after you win like
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those moments are they enjoyable for you
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as a
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manager you know when it's so intesting
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um I have to say
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that was hard but
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then you feel that you cannot go higher
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than that for you to have an example for
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us to win the league we did 100
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points you know that if you don't do 98
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99 100 you don't win it you know that if
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you have a draw you are in trouble
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because Barcelona wins for sure then the
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next season uh the previous season when
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Barcelona wins I think we lost with 92
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points 91 points something like that so
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you know that you make a mistake you are
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in trouble you have to win you have to
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win you have to win you have to win and
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then if you have
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if you have guys like uh like Cristiano
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for example where you are playing
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against uh Levante you are winning 5-
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nil you tell the guy relax come on take
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a rest no no no I can I can score one
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one more goal when you have guys like
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this you
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know the the the the boat is in the
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water and you just let the boat go and
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in the end you you enjoy the fight and
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we did but of course course is uh is
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easy I don't know maybe because of maybe
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because of uh of of that pressure maybe
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because of that tension um after the
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second year pep went
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to to a sabatical year maybe because of
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that on the third season I spoke with
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the president and I told him I think
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it's better for me to go I think it's
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better for me to go to to Chelsea and
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and change a little bit more Jose please
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don't do it now it's time where we are
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going to win it and kill because the
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most difficult time is is gone president
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I I agree the most difficult time is
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gone but it's also time for me to uh to
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go just draining tired yeah yeah you can
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say a little bit a little bit like that
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when the tension is is high I think in
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this moment in Spain people miss these
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times I think they miss it because
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become something uh something different
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but I would say that that period was was
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tremendous but Benfica Puerto Porto
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Benfica United Liverpool Liverpool
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United chela Arenal lazu Roma inter
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inter ju more than inter Millan it yeah
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yeah yeah people people I don't know
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because maybe AC wasn't doing as well
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then maybe I I don't know but the the
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first derby I played inter against Milan
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uh I remember clearly I was in I was in
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the bus and I was looking and you know
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know people together with Milan scarves
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with inter scarves you know really
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really nice really friendly I didn't
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feel it as that big big Derby when his
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interv is when you when you
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feel when you feel that something is not
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going historically well in in between
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them what's your pre-match routine look
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like you give you team talk an hour
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before the kickoff the lad's go warm up
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do you sit in the change room on your
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own do you go and watch the warmup what
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you know first of all the the guys they
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know the team even before I say always I
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don't remember there is a game where the
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guys they don't know who is going to
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play because the work you do before the
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work you do during the week normally the
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players they they know sometimes you can
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mix a little bit sometimes you can try
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to disguise a little bit you know
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sometimes a leak of information you
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don't want it to to to happen but
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normally the guys they know the guys
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they know there is I always say that the
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big work is done uh before the match day
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during the match day my work as a coach
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and my staff you know is to be on the
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bench to analyze the unpredictability of
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the game and be ready to answer to it
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but normally the job is is done my
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routine um I'm probably one of the few
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guys that is not superstitious I'm not
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at all that's good I'm not at all I
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think we have enough pressure to have
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another extra pressure pressure of being
00:21:59
supersti with something you know not I
00:22:03
like the players to be by themselves in
00:22:07
that period before the the warmup I I
00:22:09
don't like to go especially at home when
00:22:11
you have your little office I don't like
00:22:13
to go to the dressing room let them be
00:22:15
let them communicate let them do uh what
00:22:17
they want let them feel comfortable then
00:22:20
of course be with the guys before uh the
00:22:23
game a few minutes and be with them for
00:22:26
90 minutes uh and play with them for 90
00:22:28
minutes and be what you think the team
00:22:31
needs you to to be for for 90 minutes
00:22:35
but not no big routines right that was
00:22:38
genuinely incredible really enjoyed that
00:22:41
that was part one there are more parts
00:22:43
coming in part two we're going to get
00:22:44
into Manchester United thanks again to
00:22:46
football.com for helping us sort this
00:22:48
interview out make sure to go and check
00:22:49
out part two as soon as it drops if you
00:22:51
want the full audio check the link in
00:22:53
the description I'll see you in the next
00:22:54
one

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Why did Jose Mourinho depart Roma? What mattered the most when building a team? Jose’s pre-match routine! Today, Rio Ferdinand & Stephen Howson sit down to chat to former Chelsea, Man Utd, Spurs & Roma boss, the Special One, Global https://www.football.com/welcome/ Ambassador Jose Mourinho! In part 1, they discuss the reasons why Jose Mourinho is no longer manager of Roma, the difficulties in playing Mourinho’s side, creating a team in today’s generation, what’s important to Jose in building a team, as well as football rivalries, pre-match routines and much more! Don’t forget to like, comment, subscribe and hit that notification bell so you never miss a minute of football coverage, exclusive interviews, and fiery debates this season! 0:00; - Intro 1:04; - What was the reason behind José Mourinho's departure from Roma? 5:46; - Why were Mourinho’s teams so difficult to play against? 7:28; - Is there a difference in creating current-generation teams now? 12:10; - What is most important to Mourinho when building a team to win? 14:41; - Where are the biggest rivalries? 17:24; - Did Mourinho enjoy the rivalry feeling? 20:48; - What is Mourinho’s pre-match routine? 22:39; - Outro Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/5magazine FIVE UK Linktree: https://linktr.ee/fiveuk FIVE UK Instagram: https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser FIVE UK Twitter/X: https://x.com/fiveuk FIVE UK Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser FIVE UK TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@fiveuk Jose Mourinho Instagram: https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser Football.com Instagram: https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser Football.com Twitter/X: https://x.com/footballcomglob Football.com TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@footballcomglobal Football.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser Rio Ferdinand Instagram: https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser Rio Ferdinand Twitter/X: https://x.com/rioferdy5 Rio Ferdinand Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser Rio Ferdinand TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@rioferdy5 Stephen Howson Instagram: https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser Stephen Howson Twitter/X: https://x.com/mrstephenhowson Stephen Howson TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mrstephenhowson

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