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Potapenko

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will be, well, Evgeniy is my guest today, a

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stranger to the professor and

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literary critic, well, what does it

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mean or what is the meaning or

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jewelry? Let's talk today about jewelry

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and what is jewelry, what can be

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classified as jewelry, gold-diamonds

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or lines, just tattoos that

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decorations also play the same role

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because now tattoos, according to experts,

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have become a form of art that is just

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drawing on the body, and many functions that have already been lost

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that came to us from the

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primitive society of tattoos because

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they say that the birthplace of tattoos is generally

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Mesopotamia,

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I will name some books that can

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to be interesting,

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that is, this is the Sumerian-Akkadian sewage disposal in

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the courtyard, something is where the Bible was born,

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this is one of the most ancient civilizations, only

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three were this Mesopotamia, the Tiger and the Euphrates,

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this is the Indus River, and this is the Nile, Egypt, it is from

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these three ancient civilizations that

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our concept of civilization and some

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scientists are

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subject to the so-called Panova Vela

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nismo, I believe that Babylon,

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that is, this Sumerian cass of calcium,

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was born absolutely everything,

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according to Arab historians,

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it was there in the Sumerian-Akkadian

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civilization 2 speeches that the tattoo originated,

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that is, it is as ancient as but

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the truth is said even in in the primitive

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society of widows, the civilized period

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already existed and it goes on par

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with jewelry,

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here we must immediately understand

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that everything that concerns modernity, everything

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that concerns ours is logical

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or about the logical behavior of jewelry,

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tattoos, among the tsatski-petski, that’s all

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is not logic because it does not

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save us from the cold from thirst from hunger,

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it performs only this

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logical function and everything that concerns

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this is nonsense, it is about lobbying, this is in

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general with my heritage of

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primitive thinking and there are also

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studies, I will name the books they will call the

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sky during our conversation, where

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to emphasize this information only on

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Wikipedia and not only on forums, everything

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is possible, I have one friend on

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only on forums, I think that if she

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read it, she knows everything about the

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Bolshevik approach, he I knew a worker, he did

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n’t even understand the ABCs, but he

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heard Lenin and he knew everything, she read

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Wikipedia, she knew everything, like that worker, it was so

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clear that

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people had been working on this for decades, it was terribly

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interesting, especially in France in the

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60s, when such

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ethnologists and ethnographers as Levi-Bruhl

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Levi-Strauss were people of global importance.

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were direct

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contemporaries of the

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postmodernist paradigm that arose

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then, they

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wrote articles in newspapers and magazines

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that interested all sorts of gossips

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and not only they tried to

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popularize their knowledge,

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their knowledge of primitive thinking,

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they said here are your decorations and

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even brought premieres, they quietly came, they come from

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primitive thinking and into In this sense, we are

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such a complex phenomenon that not only

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belongs to the 20th or 21st centuries, our psyche is

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much more complex, and in particular there is such a

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wonderful ethnographer

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Levy-Bruhl, I’ll allow myself

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to quote him, he perfectly expressed

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it in what I think is a very simple

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and clear phrase of descent when he

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says that primitive thinking

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is about lobbying, that is, it is illogical, well,

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myths have their own logic, but it is not

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Aristotle’s logic, he reminded of

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Aristotle’s yg, it is built according to three laws, and

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even then a

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cause-and-effect relationship will come out of it, and we are

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accustomed to this the first law of non-

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contradiction, the law of identity, and the

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third is not given, the

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three basic laws of logic will be arrested,

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prescribed back in the fourth century

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BC, and the man of the clock from that moment seemed to be

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connected to the concept of logic, and

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primitive thinking, long before Lari,

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became it, no such logic of Aristotle I was

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n’t born yet, I didn’t know and didn’t

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know how to formulate this about Aristotle, it turned out

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that our thinking is built under the clear

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three laws of logic and in no other way, and

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even in the era of Aristotle, people

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always behaved logically and they

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probably even surprised him very much by this, until

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firstly tattoos were known in ancient Greece,

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these tattoos already existed then,

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they came to Greece from Egypt and sleeps in

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Persia, first through Persia, the leagues of

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violence were not then the function of a talisman, this is a

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very good question about tattoos in general,

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it arises from the function of a talisman,

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why is this already Levi-bruhl yes and here

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he writes in particular, I want to

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quote, there

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are not two forms of thinking in

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humanity, one about logical, that is, the

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primitive, the other logical, and they are

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not separated from each other by a blank wall,

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but there are different thought structures

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that exist in the same

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society and often maybe always in the

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same consciousness, that is, we are

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simultaneously people of a primitive

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society with a primitive mentality and

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already civilized people who think

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logical one way, as Levi-Bruhl writes,

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and he knows what to say and one does not

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contradict the other, how did we discover

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this very primitive society

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when European humanity

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unexpectedly, probably in the 20th century,

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encountered societies

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that, despite the twentieth century,

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continued to live in the Stone Age, for

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example, the aborigines of Australia are a vivid

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example of the times they live very scary and there are a

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lot of such regions, but

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modern scientists have become

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unusually interested in this conflict; this actually

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happened back in the mid-19 when

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taylor's revolutionary book appeared

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called primitive society, it's

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not a joke, they're humiliated and have a humiliating

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connotation, they're just different,

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they're people like us, they're close to

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us, but they

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don't have, roughly speaking, Aristotelian

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logic, and they don't have that heightened

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concept of personality that we inherited

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from Greece

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particular things from the history of theater and so on

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because the primitive

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mentality of man is always collective, he

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always feels like a single connection with

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nature, hence totem animals then there it

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becomes the subject of jewelry and tattoos

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and so on, excuse me, I interrupted you, they are

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just writing that pay

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attention that with regard to primitiveness, it was

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shamans who decorated themselves first of all, that

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is, those people who, in the opinion of the tribe itself,

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interacted with the forces of nature, and not in

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the first place, not in the first place, the fact is

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that with tattoos and jewelry

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they participated in the initiation rite, the

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initiation rite is the period of each person

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is when he moves from relatively speaking

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childhood into puberty and the squirt from the

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period becomes an adult and in

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fact this is a terrible interesting thing they didn’t

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assign with jewelry now we

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’ll come back to them don’t think that we forgot

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about the necklace so I remembered the

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wonderful ones again Maupassant's short story, the necklace

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of which generally blew up the

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Western world because it was a

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revolutionary idea from the point of view of

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the short story as a genre, the necklace in general,

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jewelry entered world literature and

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gave rise to the text of science fiction, well, let me

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talk about this for now, look, the

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initiation rite is a rite

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that everyone went through tribes are a

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feature of the primitive Ashley, a boy or a

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girl

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entering the period of sexual growth

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had to go through a very painful,

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painful rite of initiation for

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various reasons, the boy had to become

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a hunter and the war the girl had to

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be ready to continue the race and therefore

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no one canceled the birth pangs and so

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on, and tattoos were applied and

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tattoos were applied in a

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painful form

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and there it was necessary to

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pass the dyes into the skin, but you know with a needle and

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then yes then it was not those

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modern techniques as now even to

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say that the word itself came later

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and seems to be from Polynesian word

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meaning tapping with a hammer on

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idyll

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onomatopoeia, here you have

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your body painted to this sound, and in this sense,

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oddly enough, during the initiation rite, tattoos

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could be done in the form of necklaces,

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here you have jewelry in the form of a ring, and so

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on, and in the form of, for example, a totem

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animal, etc. other things, there

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were different options and also very interesting

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options, and when a person underwent the

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initiation rite, this is recorded in

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folklore in the form of a fairy tale, as a

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sample writes in his great work the

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historical roots of a fairy tale

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English for the initiation rite, the

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initiation rite is directly related to the decoration

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from the tatu,

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yes this is one of functions decoration tattoo

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dedication return but remember the girl

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you grow up in the family gets her ears pierced

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yes this is an atavism initiation rites the girl

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becomes an adult not really pierced

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notice in the gypsy society in which there

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is no concept of childhood

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her ears are pierced almost from birth

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and she is already ready to get married and other other

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that the product that needs to be

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sold at a higher price and get compliance

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yes yes and this is a rite of passage

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and from the rite of initiation a fairy tale was born

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and a fairy tale is the

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basis of all fiction

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look how it is inextricably connected

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if we take the structure of a fairy tale

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you will see that it really

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pulsates in almost all works of

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world literature, I won’t give it now,

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we’ll go away, here’s an initiation rite,

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another rite,

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because of this, about logic and

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about lobbying, that is, before logic, so I’m

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addressing this and because of this, the

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absence of a personal principle

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then there is a complete idiot of shamans, we

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were reminded by the listeners of complete Denin, not

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only shamans, complete unity with nature, the

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tattoo performs a very important function, and

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tattoos and jewelry here do not draw the line, a

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very important function of a talisman,

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why because primitive man did

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not see a cause-and-effect relationship from the fact

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that a person gets sick because

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there someone sneezed on him or something else like that,

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everyone is sure that illness and

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death are the result of witchcraft,

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that is, there are people, as

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modern people are now expressed, with negative

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energy, people are vampires, something else like that, and

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many

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folk tales on this is built

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which is the cause of diseases of a

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whole kind

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or earlier booking of an entire person,

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there are specific people who, but due to

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various characteristics, consider themselves to be bones

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of sorcerers, no less a

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caste of sorcerers with a positive sign is built on them,

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shamans who take you away from damage,

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and there are people who do not are aware of

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witchcraft for whom witchcraft

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is a curse, but for example,

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Levi-Bruhl cites this

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interesting fact when one of his friends

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went to communicate in what

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seems like Africa with a certain tribe

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and it was raining

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this malaria, etc.,

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she said that she had to leave

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home herself and go in the rain and they didn’t let you in,

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saying that if you get sick,

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there is no witchcraft on the saber, not because she got her

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feet wet, but because these

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representatives of the tribe allowed her to leave

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and therefore they invited fate on her

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and all our pendants they perform the

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function of initiation they all mystical,

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they are all connected with the religion of religion or the

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function of a talisman because witchcraft in

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that era when the personality is not separated,

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when the personality does not have

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a cause-and-effect logical connection between

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one and the other, when there is no what

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people now call scientific

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thinking, everything is built on the principle of

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witchcraft, all negative phenomena in

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your life, this is a manifestation of witchcraft,

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or for example a warrior whose spear broke

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during a battle or during a hunt and this

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witchcraft someone thought about it, they

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people of that era believed this is

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mental strength, colossal forces

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that can extend to it is no

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less real than strength

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and here are all our pendants, they are all of

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magical origin, that’s why we are so

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attached to them,

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why but because, as Shakespeare said,

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there are many things in the world, friend Horace, that

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our sages never dreamed of,

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now there is a TV series on, I even

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recently made a series of it on the harp

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client stranger king here is a

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vivid example of how to carry around in rational

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America

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there is a detective story written by the king of

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horrors about where in fact I

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am telling you

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about this the revival of no one such a

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sorcerer elku k who in fact

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can take on any form

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according to the laws of this witchcraft of a

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primitive society a person could

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to become a panther, any tiger, a

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bear, any animal, or

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cause harm to one’s fellow tribesmen, so

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this was manifested, for example, in the fact that the whole

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detective story was built on the principle of the works of the

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asset, episode 1, or a stranger was looking for

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Kolbin, in fact, the plot of the king of every

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series is the plot of a primitive society

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looking for a sorcerer to find the reason for this

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for modern serials plot

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modern why is there so far to go

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Marvel's so exactly such a life is

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absolutely true and you have led to

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absolutely right now it's just the whole

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mass culture mass fiction

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mass cinema is all based on

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this mysticism and I will say that this

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mysticism has serious reasons there is

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such a wonderful American

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psychologist Scott and some of his works were

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translated, but most importantly, in my opinion,

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the work was not translated into Russian,

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but he has an amazing book

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called people of lies and so he talks

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and essentially analyzes the

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effect of shamanism or the effect of witchcraft

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in modern society when a person

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can actually, roughly speaking,

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enter into an agreement on his own on a

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psychological level with evil, he

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calls them people

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of lies and he cites fantastic

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cases of such illogical behavior as

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if a person is possessed just like a

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stranger by a king such an abomination yes and we are like

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me quoted Levi-Bruhl here

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we live not only by logic we live and the

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alogism of amku in us or dishes here as

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an ethnologist confirms what

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both Freud and Jung wrote about the collective

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unconscious we are dragging onto our

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consciousness such a sorry for such

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rudeness great garbage dump that

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dumped everyone era, everything that came before,

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witchcraft and faith, look at the

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fashion now for all kinds of amulets,

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all kinds of amulets, look at how all

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these points that cast magic remove some kind of

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damage from you,

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or vice versa, they click on success,

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Jacob’s wealth is

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not returned, you need to return such

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faith in a miracle, infinitely, these clothes on him are

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already housing in all historical societies at once

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and therefore this

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roughly speaking drive is very strong and what

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do they do well at the philistine level,

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well, let’s say so modernly and mass

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consciousness, so you open your favorite

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Wikipedia and I opened it too in order not to

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break away from the people and about jewelry, we

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read on some women’s website

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the following modern understanding of

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jewelry reveals to us temperament and

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character,

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then shows the level of protection from

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energy drinks, but we give this, this is what it

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symbolizes and reflects our

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sensitivity,

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again, some kind of mysticism demonstrates the

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level of sexual energy and tone, so let’s

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focus on sexual energy,

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tone, these are also ancient,

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although the ladies who wrote this I think

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were not noticed in this, you know how

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bright the bullets are, I wasn’t noticed in drunkenness, but

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in the morning I drank cold Volga and so they

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apparently greedily drank cold water in

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drunkenness were noticed somewhere, so that's what this

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sexual energy is, the thing is

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that in Babylon where the tattoo came from, the

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so-called sacred

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prostitution was widespread, yes thank you care in

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modern them I should say this when

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your neighbor here has been rampaging for a long time here in the

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apostolic palace I did

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n’t think about my demons he

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can’t cope on his own, especially since the

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cross doesn’t save the flight, this is

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what sacred prostitution is,

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take the wonderful novel by Gora Vidal,

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it’s called creation creation, it

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describes just this example of

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sacred prostitution in Babylon,

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to serve the goddess Ishtar,

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the goddess Ishtar, which in English

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became the title Easter Esther

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because this is such a world mythology, in general,

00:20:26

all mythology was born in Babylon, it

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moved to the territory of the Celts

00:20:30

somehow this is to look for to look for here is the

00:20:33

subject of scientific research a logical path

00:20:35

and 100

00:20:37

English Easter Ishtar it’s all from there

00:20:41

there a wonderful book moringa

00:20:43

angel of the western window they will tell us

00:20:46

something there, therefore, that’s why women

00:20:50

were obliged to simply put on

00:20:53

themselves certain tattoos

00:20:58

on their chests, these should have been stars,

00:21:02

the moon and the sun on the stomach, floral

00:21:05

ornaments,

00:21:07

and below is the king’s palace, and this is the very thing in these

00:21:14

tattoos, yes they should were at the temple of the

00:21:17

goddess Ishtar to sell herself to any

00:21:20

man and she has no right to refuse, he

00:21:23

can give her any coin, take her to the

00:21:27

temple to have intercourse there

00:21:29

and this is a rite of passage and this is

00:21:32

sexuality and these tattoos performed

00:21:36

this very important

00:21:39

religious function for her and now tell me

00:21:42

it left a person but didn’t go anywhere,

00:21:45

look at what tattoos and

00:21:48

where they are applied and some kind of

00:21:50

sexual principle they carry, this is

00:21:52

what they wrote to you in patience and remember

00:21:55

this very sacred prostitution of the

00:21:59

Babylon era, you

00:22:01

really should have accepted

00:22:05

prohibit eating the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of

00:22:08

good and evil, the more a person this fruit

00:22:12

lives there, by the way, listeners

00:22:14

write at what point did tattoos begin to be

00:22:15

considered something sexual, an

00:22:18

integral part of sex, did it happen in the 20th century

00:22:21

or a little, I

00:22:23

would say again that this is generally speaking hoary hoary

00:22:26

antiquity, I can, of course, look into

00:22:28

my conduit and tell you what

00:22:31

millennium before ours,

00:22:33

this is still the same memory that is

00:22:36

seething in us, which again

00:22:38

reminds me of this wonderful phrase of

00:22:42

Levi-Bruhl and this is one of the greatest

00:22:45

anthropologists of our time where he

00:22:47

says don’t think what about logical

00:22:50

thinking and logical thinking, that is,

00:22:52

modern and primitive are separated from each

00:22:56

other by impenetrable environments

00:22:58

by a wall, they are not there, nor to the Chinese wall,

00:23:01

they diffusely penetrate each other,

00:23:04

this is such a movement, therefore even at the

00:23:07

level of the average person writes something without

00:23:09

suspecting that he is in in general, it

00:23:10

reproduces sexuality for you

00:23:13

in general, the history of tattoos as the history of

00:23:16

decoration is terribly interesting and but let’s

00:23:18

start with the fact that in different cultures it

00:23:22

performed different functions more and more

00:23:26

separated from the shore and so on,

00:23:29

turning into an independent art and

00:23:31

one small fact, the

00:23:32

future king of England seems to be a hero

00:23:35

George 4, when he was in Japan, got a

00:23:39

tattoo on himself, our future Nicholas II,

00:23:42

when he was traveling in Japan,

00:23:44

got a tattoo on himself, fire-breathing

00:23:47

dear, his brother Grand Duke Michael

00:23:49

got a tattoo on himself, that is, our

00:23:52

royalty,

00:23:54

it was already such a fashion among the highest

00:23:58

nobility and this is ap the Soviet era then what

00:24:02

was of the highest nobility will go down with a

00:24:04

tattoo will become the absolute property

00:24:06

of the criminal world, and you

00:24:09

can read from the tattoos that they were created in Soviet times

00:24:12

to the roof of NCO V.D.

00:24:15

whole albums of these same tattoos of

00:24:19

criminals in order to read them in order to

00:24:22

understand it was such a

00:24:25

letter and in ancient Greece tattoos were also

00:24:28

used as hidden letters on

00:24:31

the head

00:24:32

shaved drums were worn with a certain

00:24:34

message the hair will grow and the one to whom

00:24:37

this novel was sent was invited to shave his hair to

00:24:40

read and like this here the things of

00:24:43

slaves were branded,

00:24:45

that is, the tattoo still carried a

00:24:49

bad attitude towards civilization to the status of

00:24:53

such a status you have and yes and

00:24:57

you are who you are and what do you imagine yourself to be

00:25:00

in Egypt where tattoos were also known,

00:25:03

Egyptian tattoos were

00:25:06

connected directly with the book of the dead because

00:25:10

determined how which part of this book

00:25:15

the dead man will go through,

00:25:18

well, we know that among the pharaohs and taba the soul is of

00:25:22

divine origin; among

00:25:25

ordinary people it is a

00:25:26

sacred body, and they have completely

00:25:29

different paths in the book of the dead, and the book

00:25:31

of the dead is a cat of the entire Egyptian

00:25:33

civilization and by tattoos who

00:25:36

embodied in the mummy the drawing on the sarcophagus

00:25:39

determined who what it was and so on

00:25:42

Egyptologists passport absolutely absolutely

00:25:46

banana Evgeniy Viktorovich Zharinov

00:25:48

visiting the silver rain friends we

00:25:50

will continue in a few minutes

00:25:51

send your questions plus 7 900 3797

00:25:55

633 Potapenko will be but as promised in

00:26:01

my guests

00:26:02

Evgeniy Viktorovich Zharinov professor

00:26:05

writer lunch and we talk about the meaning of

00:26:08

jewelry crumbled teeth tattoos tattoos

00:26:11

yes because one is no different from the other

00:26:13

in primitive society

00:26:16

jewelry could be all kinds of

00:26:18

shells and there could be tattoo designs in the form of

00:26:22

necklaces in the form of rings and so on so on

00:26:25

here everything that concerns

00:26:27

why the body why she when we talk

00:26:30

about decoration we talk about the body when we

00:26:33

talk about tattoos especially when we talk about the body

00:26:35

because this is the critical

00:26:39

thinking of ancient man assumed

00:26:41

that the

00:26:42

body it is sacred it is directly connected

00:26:46

it belonged to the so-called

00:26:50

material to the sensual cosmos,

00:26:53

he endowed matter with demons, endowed with

00:26:56

soul and body, for example, in this thinking, the

00:27:00

head is space on and the price of approximately

00:27:03

some peoples, the head of the residents

00:27:06

should be Britney as a bend of data, and for

00:27:10

example, the inhabitants of Palestine have this Samson

00:27:14

hair should grow and in any case in

00:27:18

all the ancients in cultures, the head and hair

00:27:21

are a connection with the upper world to the left and

00:27:24

right

00:27:25

it is very left is always wrong

00:27:28

the right is always right yes this is because

00:27:30

Christianity will pass everything plays a

00:27:33

mythical meaning the sky and the sun and the moon

00:27:39

are connected with the eyes yes the eyes of this

00:27:42

tone are of such heavenly origin no

00:27:45

matter what we they took whatever part of the body they

00:27:47

took, it is from the ancient sen of critical

00:27:50

thinking or mentality, it will be

00:27:52

sacred, so decorating this body

00:27:55

with a tattoo on the face is now very

00:27:58

funny, sometimes it happens that people, not like

00:28:02

monkeys, put a tattoo

00:28:05

on their face for beauty, they are taken from some kind of

00:28:07

African tribe, not I advise you

00:28:10

to do this because with every tattoo

00:28:12

it is always, in general, mystical

00:28:15

and the drawing is very together in order and you

00:28:18

can either want it or not, and I will remind you that you

00:28:20

live in two ways of thinking at once, you

00:28:22

call upon yourself the forces

00:28:25

from which these poor inhabitants

00:28:28

protect the African tribe and no one

00:28:31

look listeners writes to us Evgeny

00:28:33

Victor still dear dear

00:28:34

please tell us about the era

00:28:36

when jewelry was actually turned into a

00:28:40

weapon I mean for example rings with

00:28:44

poison the Middle Ages Valentine wrote to us

00:28:47

before the ring with poison poison

00:28:51

generally speaking not even in the Middle Ages

00:28:53

here I want mark poison will gain particular

00:28:58

popularity in the Renaissance and I

00:29:05

made a small historical excursion. Dante, as you know, was not proud of the fact

00:29:08

that he wrote the Divine Comedy

00:29:10

because he wrote the Divine Comedy

00:29:13

somewhere in several copies, almost

00:29:16

like Vene Erofeev in his Moscow-Petushki

00:29:18

when he writes that my book was published

00:29:21

in an edition of one copy and to the great

00:29:24

joy of the author the edition immediately went

00:29:27

here just like that and here the dirt and joys of

00:29:31

Dante the circulation was coming because yes, the

00:29:33

energy of the printing presses is far from the

00:29:36

point that his Tuscan dialect will become

00:29:39

the literary Italian language

00:29:42

yet longer, yes, this is a book for locals,

00:29:46

and in this we carry local ones, and not

00:29:48

all literate ones, not every literate one, he

00:29:51

wrote it as a political pamphlet, I

00:29:55

mean, you don’t think that I was talking,

00:29:57

but he most appreciated that he was running to the

00:29:59

shop of pharmacists, who also owned the

00:30:02

Medici translation of the Medici as doctors

00:30:05

on the coat of arms of the Medici 3 tablets and so on and

00:30:10

this is a privileged society and why

00:30:13

were pharmacists so poisonous they didn’t so much

00:30:18

treat as poison because this is an

00:30:20

excellent solution to all problems there is no

00:30:23

person there is no problem and I’ll give you were proud of the fact

00:30:26

that the pressure on the workshop is pharmacists, that is,

00:30:29

poisoners he was, in general, an

00:30:32

unkind, evil, gloomy person, I would say this is

00:30:36

even visible in his divine comedy and

00:30:39

we look, you read Dumas, look at

00:30:43

how Catherine de Medici uses poisons, and

00:30:46

look at how the book is poisoned,

00:30:50

which one is worth one of the stars sons

00:30:52

by mistake

00:30:54

falconry and turn the page with their finger

00:30:58

and poisoned poisoned and then

00:31:02

this plot will take Umberto Eco into his own and

00:31:04

on the roses and there he will also repeat what

00:31:08

was in the Maraga queen

00:31:10

look the poisons will become very there is even

00:31:14

such a book the history of poisons I unfortunately

00:31:17

won’t name the name of this

00:31:19

French author now maybe next

00:31:21

time I’ll bring it, but I’ll give

00:31:24

whole studies and poisons devoted to you mean

00:31:29

in the ring, but the poison could be gloves, the poison

00:31:33

could be in clothes and a greenhouse through the

00:31:37

skin, by the way, and only pharmacies or

00:31:41

but alchemists were engaged in this matter and

00:31:43

mostly deserve the favor of their

00:31:45

masters not so much because they supposedly

00:31:47

made gold, but because they made

00:31:50

fast-acting poisons, they were driven by competitors,

00:31:53

absolutely right, it was very convenient,

00:31:55

for example, Cesare Borgia

00:31:58

poisoned everyone and everything during the Renaissance and was

00:32:00

very surprised that when they tried to

00:32:03

poison him, he decided that it was his privilege,

00:32:05

in general, he and his dad Alexander the

00:32:08

Sixth poisoned not a single cardinal, this is

00:32:12

beautifully shown in the Borgias series, but

00:32:15

this is what the Burks have before it, the history of the

00:32:20

Italian Renaissance, it is all

00:32:22

described there, this is a historical fact, nothing is

00:32:24

made up, and this is the era of the Renaissance, why in the

00:32:27

era of the Renaissance, but because the era of the

00:32:29

Renaissance is the era of the titans and the reverse

00:32:32

side of otitis media nismo is the era of humanism

00:32:34

which you know how Dostoevsky said

00:32:37

brilliantly humanism

00:32:39

he said that humanism is a phenomenon of

00:32:44

culture and civilization it is not a phenomenon of

00:32:47

human nature

00:32:49

and there is every chance that monism will riot there that is

00:32:53

what humanism is a phenomenon of culture and

00:32:55

civilization here you are and so far the revival

00:32:57

because humanism and dying plays the

00:32:59

opposite side in this sense for a

00:33:03

person titans who had

00:33:06

all the limits of moral prohibitions about

00:33:08

rebirth omitted, we look at how many

00:33:11

corpses of the play Hamlet

00:33:12

look at how many corpses letters from troubles and the

00:33:15

entire revival of

00:33:17

Italy let children read no no this is

00:33:20

such a reading very, very In general, he’s

00:33:22

such a horror there, mom dear,

00:33:25

look how many corpses Othello and

00:33:28

so on, this is all the revival of happiness for

00:33:30

children, they don’t think there’s no reading, then we need

00:33:33

another question,

00:33:34

the person can’t read, teach the children, the

00:33:37

reader needs to learn to read for this,

00:33:39

it’s difficult for ideas, he promised to

00:33:42

give

00:33:43

oh thank you the big one is called cruelly

00:33:45

economics 37 unlearned lessons and

00:33:47

just so that you and I will then butter

00:33:50

next time we will do about economics

00:33:53

about money this is money to the parallel

00:33:55

because money is even more ancient than tattoos

00:33:59

this is proud to callus a long time ago I promised I promised

00:34:03

yes it’s true that’s why I promised this is one

00:34:06

of the first copies that thank you

00:34:08

Bajan with the signature of ask jewelry and

00:34:15

religion and this direct connection is the

00:34:18

decoration of religion, which is primary after all, but you

00:34:20

accept here it’s difficult to say what is the

00:34:26

first and what is the second because

00:34:28

it’s all a man and he’s a man,

00:34:32

so I’m always referring on this popular

00:34:35

book Harare before

00:34:36

homo sapiens paints the history of

00:34:38

mankind, it is very

00:34:40

educational, it is very well written and

00:34:43

there Harare talks about the cognitive

00:34:45

revolution when man invented language and

00:34:47

ceased to be an animal, yes it was he who

00:34:50

ceased to be an animal connections with language and

00:34:52

as soon as he invented language further we can

00:34:54

continue this thought in Harare with other

00:34:56

quotes, he invented a myth because mi in

00:34:59

translation from Greek means a word or

00:35:01

story about myths, that is, religions, and he

00:35:04

immediately began to create a different

00:35:07

civilization, not so much materially, but

00:35:09

so which is outside of matter and primitive

00:35:12

man lives with on one side of matter it is

00:35:15

syncretic, yes, but on this matter, here we

00:35:18

come to this, but the mother

00:35:20

perceives it as mystical, for him it is not

00:35:23

just matter for like cats and dogs,

00:35:25

cats and dogs have no concept of witchcraft,

00:35:28

man of antiquity has the concept of

00:35:30

witchcraft, this is his religious consciousness,

00:35:33

primitive religious consciousness and

00:35:35

therefore everything that surrounds him, he will

00:35:38

mystify, transform, delve into,

00:35:43

look for occult practice and decoration,

00:35:46

if you want, armor armor against

00:35:50

evil forces because he cannot

00:35:55

explain the world around him, but he

00:35:57

wants to protect himself from it, he endows it with his

00:35:59

own fears, fear has a

00:36:02

very important function creative

00:36:06

fear is not only negative emotions

00:36:10

it is also positive emotions

00:36:12

to save life absolutely here are children

00:36:14

who are distinguished by their creativity on the site how

00:36:16

they love scary stories

00:36:18

remember your childhood if you are not

00:36:20

upset South Africa Nicole is absolutely right

00:36:23

because the human child's psyche

00:36:26

is very creative it does not find

00:36:28

use

00:36:29

their raging imagination, and look

00:36:32

how children love talismans, amulets, how

00:36:36

they dots on the handle, how they

00:36:39

cuddle up to themselves with their totemic me

00:36:43

chic which are plush, how they love with

00:36:45

these, right up to adulthood, with

00:36:48

these bags that give them

00:36:50

peace of mind, like what - there and or what

00:36:56

protective means do boys have

00:36:58

and so on all these that’s why, for example,

00:37:01

Harry Potter was so popular these

00:37:03

magic wands this is again a

00:37:06

return to primitive thinking in these

00:37:09

magicians so call how children got hooked on

00:37:12

these they start buying these sticks,

00:37:14

some other nonsense,

00:37:16

but how do you put it on yourself, hang it,

00:37:19

they repeat everything that an adult does, so

00:37:22

if we go back to

00:37:24

decoration, then in this everyday life,

00:37:26

decoration is unspeakably defined, it is to

00:37:28

prove that your success or your

00:37:32

status is so the ancients begin to look for with slaves

00:37:36

because tattoos and corresponding

00:37:41

pieces of jewelry determined your status,

00:37:44

but remember when anyone

00:37:49

in his wonderful novel Les Miserables and

00:37:53

Jean Valjean and here on his forehead the seals are

00:37:58

considered an outcast bizarro were

00:38:02

no one accepts him and until

00:38:05

the bienvenue buys his soul for two

00:38:08

silver candlesticks Evgeniy

00:38:10

Viktorovich Zarina in the studio of silver

00:38:11

rain stay with us Potapenko will be

00:38:16

our guest Evgeniy Viktorovich Zharinov

00:38:19

Professor Peter will be poisoned and we are talking about

00:38:22

religious jewelry about how it all

00:38:24

intersects and so we

00:38:27

use literature here is Jean Valjean here is

00:38:31

your status only below yes,

00:38:34

look when you read the three musketeers,

00:38:37

here you were lily slandered by your grandfather’s leftists,

00:38:40

it was very common here Dumas did

00:38:42

n’t lie to anything, yes, here’s the status for you, too,

00:38:45

only below until the

00:38:47

date or decoration is like a curse, and

00:38:51

of course, really the status of the

00:38:54

decoration and other

00:38:56

emphasizing is among but this too

00:38:59

very ancient very ancient

00:39:01

it is for example in China when a person

00:39:04

committed crimes, again tattoos

00:39:06

associated with criminality with marginalized people,

00:39:08

first they carved out 1 part of the hieroglyph,

00:39:12

violation, subsequent other parts

00:39:15

until the hieroglyph appeared on the

00:39:18

dog’s head and then that’s how Jean

00:39:21

Valjean did with this You couldn’t have anything to do with a person,

00:39:23

but here’s

00:39:26

a table for you, too, or just downstairs, and we’ve already

00:39:28

talked about one more thing: officers from under

00:39:34

Hitler’s Germany had their own

00:39:36

tattoos, and by the way, from many of

00:39:39

these tattoos they found war

00:39:41

criminals, they talked about

00:39:44

belonging to the black knighthood to you

00:39:47

because there was mysticism in everything

00:39:51

that related to the Gestapo officers,

00:39:54

they considered themselves black knights and there were

00:39:57

corresponding tattoos, the

00:39:59

corresponding signs ikuzo has his own

00:40:02

tattoos, this is what is now present in

00:40:04

mass culture in mass fiction

00:40:07

everywhere, we have already said

00:40:10

that tattoos are like the decorations of many

00:40:14

jewelry, for example Kohinoor diamonds,

00:40:17

are famous, and the Orlov diamond, and so on,

00:40:20

if you look at the topic of

00:40:22

diamonds and stones, they have their own history,

00:40:25

a curse, look at the bloody rush,

00:40:29

our listeners, so if we

00:40:31

disassemble every piece of jewelry, guys, you won’t

00:40:33

have enough time there for not a curse,

00:40:35

how long to leave - under

00:40:37

and we are just leading, we will note and maybe we

00:40:39

remind a little of schizophrenics, but we will

00:40:43

introduce all of our digressions to the main

00:40:45

theme that everything that concerns our life is

00:40:48

connected with our past and without

00:40:51

religiosity, which has a

00:40:52

very ancient

00:40:56

pre-Christian history

00:40:57

and so on, people live in these

00:40:59

spaces

00:41:00

he actually drags them a new memory of

00:41:03

pre-Christian pagan theory into

00:41:05

Christianity,

00:41:07

oddly enough, because without going into

00:41:10

details, but any serious historians of

00:41:12

religion will tell you this, or read

00:41:14

books at least two or three, take a

00:41:16

wonderful book by an American

00:41:18

historian, woman Armstrong, called

00:41:21

the history of God look how

00:41:24

brilliantly she describes all the dogmas of

00:41:27

Christianity and Islam, where they

00:41:29

come from, how they lead the book, it reads like a

00:41:32

novel, I assure you,

00:41:34

educate yourself, be smart and

00:41:36

free on that, education in the

00:41:39

announcement, let me, my dears, want

00:41:42

to make an announcement now, wait one

00:41:47

minute, February 26 next Wednesday

00:41:51

when we don’t share we won’t meet here

00:41:55

on the silver rain there will be my lecture

00:41:58

the new pope paul cheese entina

00:42:01

and what does it have to do with the same

00:42:05

religious consciousness in modern times

00:42:07

that we talk about all the time about how a

00:42:09

person is essentially religious although he gets

00:42:12

confused in this other things and here the lectures

00:42:15

will be this is an analysis of the second season

00:42:18

the new pope how is he connected with the first then

00:42:20

there will be lectures survived then the Institute of

00:42:22

Journalism of Literary Creativity 1

00:42:24

then the scale red hall at Kalashny

00:42:28

Lane house 3

00:42:29

this is opposite the Dutch embassy the

00:42:32

lecture will be in 1930 all the details

00:42:36

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Zharinov’s telegram channel,

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don’t miss lectures and announcements, friends, thank you

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Evgenia again, of course, the listeners

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fully support the idea of

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finally making a broadcast about money and the school is

00:42:51

hooked on poisons about poisons and the

00:42:54

loudest poisonings, we’ll just edit

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with huge screams, we’re waiting you always

00:43:04

visit me where there is no owner visiting the

00:43:06

silver rain with Dmitry Potapenko

00:43:08

we say goodbye until tomorrow until eight

00:43:11

o'clock in the morning, I will remind you that all the details are

00:43:13

lectures by Evgeniy.

00:43:15

can be found on his Facebook page,

00:43:17

Instagram and Telegram channel,

00:43:19

stay with us, don’t switch off

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