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Hello Alexey Valevich I hope that
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today more than ever
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your historical section will be torn off
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from the agenda You know I can’t
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I tried to remember I can’t remember
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remember a case when really but
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so nothing to do with
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really all I'm going to talk about
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there's no point in saying that it's even simple
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get this much with your hands for
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with the exception of one story with which
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would like to start it has nothing to do with
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our main topic today, but I
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it seems very important The thing is that
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since I am responsible for historical
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references in our part of the spread then
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Let me give you information that on this day
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exactly some Round number of years
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ago our wonderful one was born
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colleague friend Irina Vorobyova and
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Let's start by congratulating her on
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pleasure
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to her today once again all the time
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turned 18 and I want to say that my
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life has worked out continues to work out
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in this sense I met very successfully and
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I meet quite a lot of bright people but
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Ira is one of the brightest people
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met me on my life's path
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and I am very grateful to her for this for what
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I'm in her social circle
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and subscribe to these words Of course
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I'm sure the vast majority
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people who know the era would subscribe to that
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what did I just say? Well, I have all sorts of
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connection with what is happening We decided on this
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week to talk about angels and demons
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maybe the last name is Brown somehow
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Somehow I'm messing around somewhere
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maybe something else happened
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irresistible desire is known to be the most
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a simple way to overcome the insurmountable
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the desire to take it to realize it Therefore
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excuse me please, I'll study
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we won’t overcome it with implementation, which means how
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usually we break it down into chapters and today
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we'll talk about angels Well really
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such angels
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not quite angelic, but Angels
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terror today we will talk about people
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which for one reason or another
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actually this is the main thing why we are talking about this
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we say let's try to consider what
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reasons could lead people into terror then
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Is there a one-time activity in such an activity or
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constant today and so and so it will be
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When
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[music]
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an attempt is being made and this is an attempt
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associated not only with personal motives
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and we will start with a person enough
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well known to us all but at the same time
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known version of the unreal
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literary and the difference is very big
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who just did his thing
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the only famous assassination attempt
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quite a personal motive but it turned out like this
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that public reaction did not allow
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stay within these limits Yes, he killed
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personal And the society applauded him
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because it was an expression of aspirations
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significant part of this society speech
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is about Lieutenant Johnny Felton or
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feld and we are not accustomed to it
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transcribes after the translators
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which at one time
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killed the Duke of decking means brilliant
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Dumas
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took pieces of Truth, pieces of dubious
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Pieces of truth are almost certain not
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Is it true that he mixed it all up with his own
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absolutely fantastic fantasy and
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turned out to be a beautiful story
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which Jung further embellished
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Khilkevich because this is famous
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name sister name this is of course one of
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the main ones, as it seems to me, are acting
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The directorial success of this in general is very
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good movie that's when
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at Velden to kill Vikingham and
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religious motive because feld and
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Dumas the harsh puritan Abekingham the skank
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and the king's favorite who is suspected of
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the fact that there is so to speak he is Secret
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Catholic and so on and so forth
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beautiful very beautiful story suddenly
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Felden's flaring passion for my lady
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experienced natural schemer
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Seductresses are nothing like this
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was
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Milady's lover was just his
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time backing and I mean lover
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Unreal milady And from one of her even I
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I would say from its historical prototypes
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in general it must be said that everything is for what
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Duke of Bucking in his life
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took it all failed
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the only exception other than cupid
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adventures here he was
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if not a champion then at least
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as the coach says, firm
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student
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usually it turned out evil tongues say
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that even so to say in this case is not
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of great importance because the attitude
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the duke and the king are the essence of the surviving
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the letters have not survived authentically
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raises not the slightest doubt In general
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somewhat went beyond the scope of Relationships
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between two politicians Therefore, when you
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they said the favorite is the favorite of the king Secret
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Catholic That's why I was expecting something else a little
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Well, now I’ve heard it so much
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diverse That's all about it About
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one could make a whole
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morning spread and then you look and you’re not alone
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but this is not our goal, what is it like
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since this reality is not torn off A
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As you know, we only take absolutely
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out of touch with reality like this
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real
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killed the Duke of Beqing Heme for reasons
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deep personal resentment
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classic loser Here he is
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there was no difference from Buckingham
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in general everything is the only thing he has
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it turned out at the end of life to kill it
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the Duke here, so to speak, he is not
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perhaps for the first time in my life What is called
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could And so he is from
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such low-level officers And that means
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I have a friend who in his own way
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the first education that he had long ago
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does not use a military translator So
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he loves to remember with laughter that
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military translators were called
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Fifteen year capital meaning not
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what they became at the age of 15
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captains and the fact that they are in this rank
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which usually
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3-4 years Yes, they stayed for 15 because
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What's special about growing up as a military translator?
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there is no place to say staffing schedules
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compiled Well, he’s such a 15-year-old
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lieutenant
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and it's terrible
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upset and irritated and because
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the complaint had its effect constantly
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felt the need and because he
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it seemed that precisely because
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he's not a young man anymore
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frivolous title that is because of this
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he can't get along with people
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it didn't work out that apparently he was
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He really is a sociopathic misanthrope
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the officers despised him and did not like him. The soldiers
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And it seemed to him that if he now
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Once the lieutenants become captain, that’s it
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everything will go well and it seems like it started
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get there on one of the expeditions
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This means that the captain of the commander Feldman has died
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as the oldest in terms of experience and age
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officer in the mouth as the straight road was for him
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in the Captain I bypassed him again
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In general, he was terribly worried about
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and at some point yes he was besides
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all your wonderful qualities that
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already wrote he was still such a quarrel you know
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he's a scoundrel, these are all his personal
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expressed his experiences in the form of statements
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complaints so much that I even hired
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special scribe Because
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some reason his complaint was dismissed
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unreadable handwriting
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I hired the last money
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a special person and somehow he
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came to my home and saw that this
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man instead of rewriting another
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it means the teardrops are rewriting some
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a leaflet some pamphlet aimed
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against the Duke of Heme And Vikingham was
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fantastic unpopular in England
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to the whole list, so to speak, he says
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Well, let me read it, I read it from him too
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eyes opened so that's who is to blame
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all his troubles I will not logic now
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try to reproduce it completely
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everyday life we ​​have hundreds of thousands of officers in
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the sixties also Khrushchev so
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say blamed for all your troubles but
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if Khrushchev really had
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attitude towards significant reduction
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armies and directly the Vikings
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most suffering felton in general
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no, but it worked out for him
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went and killed him until longer killed him at the trial
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confessed to everyone, did not hide anything
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hanged everything is fine the reaction of society
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knocked down the King and so to speak
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people close to the king through military
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parts
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officer letters
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something needs to be done to
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to honor the memory of someone who was recently
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they recently became our comrade in arms
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they didn’t want to look in his direction at all
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they considered him the last one there so to speak
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the idiot who ever served him
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british majesty to english
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more precisely to the king Yes And here he is posthumously
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turns into a human
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but you can say
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one What is called
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Here
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and you know
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decide after that who is in this pair
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Lucky And who no yes because
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posthumous glory backing skank
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Razdolbay one of the best English
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statesmen of their
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people's killer tyrant
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shocked Yes, but that's just it. Here's an example
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situations when a person is not easy
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made a killer, namely terrorists
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public opinion Well, here's the next one
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our character is a person who
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terror has come, but why?
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To be honest I spend quite a lot of time
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devoting his time to this matter with me
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there is no definitive answer to this question
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I'm talking about faith for sulich
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a girl who today has no interest in
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there are reasons for this again, so to speak often
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remembered because at one time she
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made an attempt on
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high-ranking official
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Petersburg General Governor
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Fedorov Sr.
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avenging a man she didn't even care about
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knew
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Sometimes I met all kinds of people there
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romantic stories and
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Bogolyubov's students call her there
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secret lovers almost
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they have never been an official groom in their life
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don't meet
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December 6, 76 in St. Petersburg on
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square in front of the Kazan Cathedral
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happened at that time very
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significant about 200 people today
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she too would be significant again
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demonstration under the slogan of land and freedom
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naturally, as is usually the case in everything
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times again the demonstrator made up
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student youth here are the police It's all about
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scattered everyone
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reached out and among the others captured was
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a former student by this time already
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no longer a student archive
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Petrovich Emelyanov who appeared
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under the pseudonym Alexey Stepanovich
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Bogolyubov in the demonstration he did not
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participated as he stated He passed
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by
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Of course, it wasn’t just that he ended up there, but
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he had a revolver with him and here I am
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I went to shoot and practice. So
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I must say that at that time weapons
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prohibited in itself was not prohibited
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it was wrong to use it, and so I
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I'm going istira, I have a revolver with me
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what's wrong But since he's with it
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a revolver and a man with a reputation
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directly related
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happened to be at this moment
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he was recognized not only as a participant there
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demonstration by one of the organizers and
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sentenced to hard labor no less but
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the sentence has not yet come into force
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this is absolutely important for this matter
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kept as still preliminary
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arrested means he was kept in
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Petersburg prison there in execution
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their usual duties with the usual
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the Governor General attended the inspection
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for some reason the chatter was already in advance
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I was generally irritated
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a hot-tempered man, such a tyrant, here he is
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met a group of prisoners who
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didn't take off her hats quickly enough when he saw him
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When he appeared, he yelled at them, they were out of sin
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away they went for a walk they were away
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out of harm's way So we hid around the corner
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and he was carried along the opposite direction and they
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at the corner we would meet him again and again
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not fast enough, or rather they are generally
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they were so dumbfounded that they left, here he is
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again Why don’t they even wear hats?
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they reached out, he ordered Bogolyubov to be flogged
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he did not have the rights of those in respect of whom
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the sentence of hard labor has already entered into force
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was legal at that time, but he didn’t have it
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not yet a convict, but Bogolyubov was flogged
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then we saw under the influence
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this too he gradually but irrevocably
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lost his mind and in general this is his life and
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let's finish it was known
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and here is the zasulich who is not even located
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in St. Petersburg And in Ukraine at this time
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is a police administrative
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the link she already had by this time
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some touch of revolutionary
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organizations was held according to Nechaevsky
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famous case the very one that lay down
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the basis of Dostoevsky's demons but its
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there was no court verdict her police in
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administratively exiled later
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she participated in the organization there
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student peasant unrest
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added arranged a link in general one
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in a word, having learned about this whole story
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she began to worry about her, there are people
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who are capable
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injustice has nothing to do with them
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no direct relationship
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treat it as if it happened
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with them or with one of their close friends
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and moreover, in contrast, again, to
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most people she As
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As time passed, I experienced it more and more acutely. And what
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what to do
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She goes to St. Petersburg
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his own people are staying there illegally
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Heydar's acquaintances are small ladies'
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the revolver she hides
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makes an appointment with
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to the Governor General as simple
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visitor
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it could have been it could have been different
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the thing is that in general she was lucky that in
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the first day you learned from her
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bring Vera so in general Of course
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seriously yes no Ira But actually we
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today when we are at the entrance to the metro there
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can look and even in some
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cases it is difficult for us to deceive ourselves
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imagine how much one and a half centuries
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back in this sense everything was careless
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yes I like you sir come
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there
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Well, how can a lady still look decent?
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look, of course there is something there
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peasant woman Okay, I say it again quickly
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they wouldn't have accepted her at all
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she was not accepted, she waited until he
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went out to do his business in the reception area there
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he was shot Yes, but that's what he
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came out that we’ll let her there
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fertile and even generally not dangerous
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I won't tell the story now
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Why was she completely acquitted by history?
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wonderful there are so many things in it
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interesting details but she has
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no, zasulich was absolutely a person
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unable to charm anyone therefore
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some evil people even say here she is
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came to terror because I couldn’t
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realize yourself as a woman listen Well
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so anything in the world is possible
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explain Yes, and not only in the case
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women Yes, why did you do that?
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because I'm no different as a man
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I can realize myself, it’s not that I want to
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to say that such cases do not happen before
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full of people doing all sorts of things, so to speak
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things that seem to outsiders
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stupid things because they want to
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say louder Well, in case of zasulich
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in my opinion this is not so
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this is really something
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heightened feelings make it impossible to live
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when to do this Yes
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Now the expression has become fashionable among us
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Spanish shame Yes she is as I understand it
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is the ability to experience although you
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it seems like you don’t have to worry about
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Well, you're still ashamed
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the salt was something like that, I feel it
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you know, I want to tell me for a reason
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it seems that her entire future life is in general
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this was pointed out
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starting out as a fiery revolutionary she
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will eventually come to denial
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Not a revolution at all, but the one before
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she will live she will witness
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October events of '17 will die from
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illnesses in Petrograd in the nineteenth century
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mistaking the Socialist Revolution for
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which I seem to have been fighting all my life
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Why didn’t you accept it? because it’s not the same
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the revolution is not so perfect
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and the next famous case is Sophia
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Lvovna Perovskaya
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an example of when it would seem well
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class theory doesn't work at all
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pickle is also a noblewoman but her ancestors
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impoverished Polish nobles except for
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papers in general by nobles then essentially
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they didn't even have anything special
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sky Perovskaya Sorry about the great-granddaughter
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Kirill Razumovsky, the last hetman
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Ukraine But the penultimate one if you count
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that hetman who Bulgakov has in white
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Guard and
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representative of the count's family
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Maxim probably remembers now
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famous Orenburg
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Governor General Vasily Alekseevich
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here he is
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great uncle
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that's why she's his great-niece
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he is the illegitimate son of Count Perovsky
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accordingly, he has a big one there
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there was a family
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well there, yes there really are in Perov’s
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not very clear
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such a surname that really existed
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represented in the elites was represented
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and Although Sophia's father
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Lvovny is one of the most
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here are not represented But even he is on
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wait a minute civilian general really
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State Councilor and St. Petersburg
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Civil governor that is
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Deputy Governor General say
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so for economic and administrative reasons
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questions like that
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Chairman of the City Council Executive Committee
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first secretary of the entrenchment Yes to the Soviet
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the money is there too, it doesn’t matter
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Of course, the figure in the bureaucratic world is very
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large and here it is in protest against
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parents' lifestyle against
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parental pressure leaves the family
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there
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obviously it all starts with this
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here is a personal teenage protest
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and then becomes ideological
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revolutionary and although also today
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they like to say Yes, here she is after a man
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went to the revolution But really she
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there was a Civil width of Zhelyabov and
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they really loved each other
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such a very dramatic story
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which I also can’t tell you now
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we will because it relates to
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reality But what Sofya Perovskaya in
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was ultimately the director and
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leading the last successful assassination attempt
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on Alexander II there is no doubt about it
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no such things are just in a fit
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tantrums don't make you feel bad Yes
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conscious of course
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Well, perhaps the most like this in Russian
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at least history in French
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one could meet there remember
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Charlotte Carde, for example, the murderer of Marat
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this is an example of when they kill
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disgust when
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a person's personality causes Well, such
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it’s just hatred, although again personally
00:22:58
he didn't do anything to you, that's how it is
00:23:00
you can live when you are such a brute and Marat
00:23:03
was amazing, of course, I'll give it to you
00:23:05
example but Maxim Honestly speaking, I'm for
00:23:07
reported I promised after the plot
00:23:10
opera because it has some
00:23:13
attitude towards Orenburg give you the word you
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wanted to remember one such famous
00:23:19
you have a wonderful case, especially
00:23:21
you have such a feminine selection I have
00:23:23
retreat
00:23:27
This is Maria Alexandrovna Spiridonova
00:23:31
and if
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Perovskoe in some way through
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fraternity is not a stranger to you then Maria
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Alexandrovna is just like family to me
00:23:40
Because my great-great-grandfather was hers
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teacher at the gymnasium
00:23:46
She studied at the only Tambov
00:23:49
state women's gymnasium a
00:23:51
the only teacher of the history of geography
00:23:52
was mine
00:23:54
responsibility is on him and on you on me
00:23:57
probably not, yes about the great-grandson
00:24:00
great-great-grandfather doesn’t seem to answer very well
00:24:02
but he is like a teacher of two ideological
00:24:06
history geography subjects like me
00:24:09
Seems
00:24:10
shares to some extent
00:24:12
a certain responsibility Well in general
00:24:14
all the special advice there is of course good They
00:24:17
had a basis from the last class and
00:24:19
exclude contact with
00:24:22
revolutionary circles but further to her
00:24:24
finish, maybe the exception is for her
00:24:28
would have acted like this
00:24:33
dislike for a person who seems to be
00:24:37
I didn't do anything to you, I wanted to bring you to
00:24:41
as a characteristic of this person
00:24:43
literally
00:24:49
this is Marata from his newspaper friend of the people
00:24:54
Stop wasting time inventing
00:24:57
you only have protective equipment left
00:25:00
one way is he turns to his
00:25:02
readers about which I told you many times already
00:25:06
spoke of a general uprising and popular
00:25:09
executions You can’t hesitate even for a second
00:25:12
if you have to chop off 100 thousand heads
00:25:15
hang hang my dear friends this is
00:25:20
the only way to defeat your
00:25:22
insidious enemies if only they were stronger
00:25:25
then without any pity they would cut you off
00:25:29
pierce their throats with daggers without
00:25:31
compassion
00:25:33
That's who so to speak
00:25:37
parent of military blogging when
00:25:41
who would lead the movement today
00:25:43
military correspondents, I want to say yes, this is it
00:25:47
that's the logic if they could they would give you
00:25:50
yes that's why you have to say them like that but
00:25:53
the owner was the first to christen what
00:25:56
it's called and here's our charlotte carding her
00:25:59
By the way, it really will be uh regularly
00:26:02
compare Maria Spiridonova and kills
00:26:06
person
00:26:07
which is from Jean Paul Morat
00:26:10
is different
00:26:12
perhaps he didn’t have time on one scale
00:26:16
develop to a national scale
00:26:18
had a regional scale but that’s how it is
00:26:21
absolutely the same Bloody ambition
00:26:25
to whom these calls for execution are mine
00:26:29
these executions themselves, executions and so on are
00:26:32
means to the top plus the expression of his such
00:26:36
enough peculiar views were called
00:26:39
this man Gavriil Nikolaevich
00:26:41
Luzhenovsky
00:26:43
lawyer by training for some time
00:26:45
who has worked in this direction
00:26:48
becomes an official during the days of the Revolution
00:26:52
905 was appointed Tambov
00:26:55
Governor Advisor to Gubernsky
00:26:58
the board is so close so to speak
00:27:01
Governor's man
00:27:03
He is a Black Hundred Luzhinovsky and from
00:27:07
such convinced Union of Russian people
00:27:10
Tambov branch was organized by him and
00:27:13
so he is assigned to suppress the peasants
00:27:17
speeches
00:27:18
and he does it with such zeal and passion
00:27:22
and it was that after uh so to speak it
00:27:26
leadership of these restraints
00:27:30
events remain corpses remain
00:27:33
the crippled remain the crippled
00:27:37
remains committed suicide e One of
00:27:41
such cases Maria Spiridonova will
00:27:42
then remember in full consciousness
00:27:45
I took up the task of fulfilling my action
00:27:48
sentence when I had to meet
00:27:51
with men gone crazy from torture
00:27:54
when I saw the crazy old woman's mother
00:27:57
whose 15-year-old beautiful daughter
00:27:59
threw herself into an ice hole after Kazakh caresses
00:28:02
then no powers of hell could
00:28:05
stop me
00:28:07
until longer This is probably the most
00:28:10
a common example of the second coming
00:28:12
this situation is when
00:28:15
the government behaves like this
00:28:18
What
00:28:21
no other measures seem to work
00:28:24
adequate When it seems that there is nothing left
00:28:27
one single remedy it all
00:28:30
you'll just destroy
00:28:33
remember in one of the novels Boris Akunin
00:28:36
Fandorin series if I'm not mistaken
00:28:41
State Councilor
00:28:44
fondorin says something I don't
00:28:47
I give an exact quote, the meaning is that
00:28:50
The tragedy of Russia is that
00:28:52
What
00:28:54
a decent cause a right cause is defended
00:28:57
people are immoral and fight against
00:29:00
this right thing, noble people
00:29:03
and here's the name
00:29:05
Angels of terror I am absolutely not
00:29:08
sympathize Believe me, terror is like
00:29:10
remedy I believe that murder is
00:29:13
always the last resort and
00:29:16
the vast majority
00:29:18
no remedy at all, don’t even need it
00:29:20
consider But what are these people
00:29:23
were not guided by their own
00:29:25
selfishness not personal hatred but
00:29:29
passed through the hatred of society
00:29:33
yes they did with these conductors
00:29:36
semiconductors in one direction
00:29:39
it seems to me
00:29:41
Faith
00:29:43
Here Maxim I leave time for yours Yes
00:29:46
I think you'll just tell me a little
00:29:48
spiridonovy what exactly did she do
00:29:54
severely beaten, according to some sources
00:29:57
raped then she will be later
00:30:01
will be released in the seventeenth year some
00:30:03
time will be free and then
00:30:05
Soviet power and in '41 when the Germans
00:30:09
will approach
00:30:11
to the places where it will be kept in
00:30:14
imprisonment and shot along with
00:30:16
the remaining prisoners retreating
00:30:18
kvdshniks absolutely terrible fate
00:30:21
brightly interesting women but yes no I
00:30:27
you know just speaking just in Tyrol
00:30:30
these were often murders
00:30:33
officials at various levels Yes, when we
00:30:35
we are especially talking about the beginning of the 20th century and one
00:30:40
from the cases that was in Orenburg I
00:30:44
very How did you go through the steps What is called
00:30:47
in this place The thing is that there
00:30:50
prosecutor
00:30:52
region
00:30:54
Stayed in
00:30:56
tavern or rather even in the tract
00:31:00
republican house
00:31:02
left it around 5:00 am
00:31:06
5 something and the terrorist who is sir
00:31:11
who was guarding him accordingly
00:31:13
knew apparently already followed his habits and
00:31:17
habits he was waiting for him And when he sat down in
00:31:22
my
00:31:23
not a carriage
00:31:28
he accordingly took at least
00:31:32
it was proven in court that this is indeed
00:31:33
there was no accomplice, he asked for him, that means
00:31:35
well, some random cab driver
00:31:38
asked to overtake that cab at the moment
00:31:40
overtaking, he accordingly pulled out a pistol
00:31:43
and almost point blank at the moment when
00:31:45
overtook him and shot him accordingly
00:31:50
captured after so he was captured there
00:31:54
there was also, of course, a Hollywood story
00:31:56
how his comrades were kidnapped from prison
00:31:59
and so on, but the very fact that I
00:32:02
I just remembered that the prosecutor left at 5
00:32:04
morning of this means a brothel and
00:32:07
this is in general And it was possible to install But
00:32:09
the most important thing was that it was on
00:32:11
place with e opposite literally through
00:32:13
the road from the largest temple
00:32:15
who was at that moment uh in
00:32:18
Orenburg it was later demolished uh in
00:32:22
Bolshevik times but the very fact of that
00:32:24
that it was so close to each other
00:32:25
literally across the street me too And that's it
00:32:28
time surprised Maxim Well, if we are with you
00:32:30
Let's remember, uh, much closer to us
00:32:33
Our lives are times then Let's remember
00:32:36
that in the nineties people are very
00:32:38
similar to a prosecutor, and not just
00:32:40
on General Yes they did not find
00:32:43
Just
00:32:44
establishment of dubious reputation A in
00:32:48
a bathhouse with girls who, as I understand it,
00:32:49
did not belong to some madam with
00:32:52
German surname yes, but in my opinion
00:32:55
Solntsevskaya yes Or some
00:32:56
Dolgoprudnenskaya in general some kind of gang
00:32:59
So what I want to say is
00:33:03
Cathedral of Christ the Savior forgive me
00:33:06
that's it, nothing happened that didn't happen but in
00:33:10
excuses I want to say that the program
00:33:12
200 temples were not yet in effect Then on
00:33:14
that moment now Maybe it’s already there
00:33:16
something but we just didn’t make it in time
00:33:18
You can’t do everything Yes but Tell me
00:33:21
please Maxim I don’t like this story
00:33:23
I know, well, I mean, I heard it from you, but
00:33:25
I don’t know the details. He is this person
00:33:27
killed precisely as a market prosecutor as
00:33:31
position or for the fact that he was
00:33:33
known as a person there somehow
00:33:36
especially as a position because Social Revolutionaries
00:33:39
and in the Southern Urals there were very
00:33:42
common structures of e and Ufa
00:33:46
Governor General they also mean uh
00:33:48
they shot, that is, there was a lot of things there
00:33:51
this is just one of one of the examples Well
00:33:54
this is exactly the situation when terror
00:33:57
impersonal, that is, they kill a person
00:34:00
because he occupies a certain
00:34:02
position and not because he has it there
00:34:03
hands up to the elbows in blood or something else
00:34:05
anything
00:34:06
we will have three examples tomorrow Tomorrow we
00:34:09
we will talk to you about demons
00:34:11
demons of provocation because that's all
00:34:13
this is not terrorist activity
00:34:16
could not have given birth to such a thing, the inhabitants are rude
00:34:18
speaking not only but also instigators
00:34:21
also because literally it’s a pity it’s that one
00:34:25
who incites who provokes but
00:34:27
provocation
00:34:29
inevitably starting from this turn
00:34:32
into a much more ramified phenomenon but
00:34:36
Tomorrow we'll talk about the referee not playing
00:34:38
Of course, in all these wonderful
00:34:41
It's not like the company doesn't exist. Hmm
00:34:44
examples in Foreign history Why?
00:34:47
contact foreign countries When with us
00:34:49
so rich and colorful in its own way
00:34:52
just some of them were marked
00:34:56
uh somehow special bloody
00:34:58
passions Let's just think to me
00:35:00
let's fix this
00:35:02
recorded That's what it seems to me that
00:35:06
If only there was a person What is called history
00:35:10
there are chapters about him and
00:35:13
there will be stories about him because
00:35:15
of course the perception that you yourself
00:35:18
you are already working in this system And this is
00:35:20
What is the system doing?
00:35:22
was perceived by them as sufficient
00:35:25
proof that you are the same
00:35:28
the beast, like the whole system, of course
00:35:31
is actually a misconception because
00:35:33
that in the darkest times in the least
00:35:36
nice institutions happen
00:35:38
individual not Lost people
00:35:42
idealists are sometimes simply carried away
00:35:46
for some reason a decent person didn’t have time
00:35:48
leave there on time. This happens rarely.
00:35:50
but it happens but
00:35:52
terror is always based on a generalization
00:35:56
rarely delve into some things
00:35:59
individual things like that And this
00:36:02
of course one of the main things against him
00:36:04
Alexander II
00:36:06
where would they put just a person
00:36:07
on whom they pinned more
00:36:10
atrocities or the fact is that he is just
00:36:14
the most famous example when they did not kill
00:36:18
for personal actions but because he
00:36:22
personification of the system
00:36:24
Remove this collection system at least
00:36:27
staggers, remove the support
00:36:32
yes In the end it didn’t turn out like that
00:36:34
We expected that in the end the support was removed, yes
00:36:37
but it turned out that without this it became
00:36:40
overall no better
00:36:49
thinking about how to build our
00:36:52
today's conversation I'm in general Well
00:36:54
I've wondered enough
00:36:56
standard question standard
00:36:58
set the task of trying to find my father
00:37:02
Russian police provocation
00:37:04
provocations provocations can be different
00:37:06
including revolutionary ones
00:37:07
provocations Of course, but that's who we have
00:37:10
such is the father, and this is not about
00:37:15
whoever first started using this will find it
00:37:17
It’s simply impossible because, well, for example
00:37:20
I know what else is in the middle
00:37:25
the eighteenth century was so famous
00:37:28
criminal fraction detective these two professions
00:37:31
go together wonderfully Vanka Osipov
00:37:34
Van What Yes And this same Van
00:37:37
Which
00:37:38
used his agents to
00:37:41
provoke people and then what?
00:37:45
called hot take another one too
00:37:48
It’s clear that these people are not sinless, but
00:37:50
nevertheless it was classic
00:37:52
provocation with leading a person to a trap
00:37:56
that's how they catch birds Yes they pour food Yes
00:38:00
over some box that will fall into
00:38:03
right moment for example yes or there
00:38:05
the mousetrap is also here, but it's like, well
00:38:08
I see, yes, this is the kind of person who
00:38:11
solved my problems this way
00:38:15
including eliminated those dangerous to themselves
00:38:16
people this is not a system, that's who the father is
00:38:19
systems and know me very generally
00:38:23
I was once again saddened by the result of this
00:38:27
my short-lived various activities because
00:38:30
what I ended up stumbling upon
00:38:32
the person is well known well
00:38:35
known to everyone who loves the nineteenth
00:38:37
century his story known to those who love
00:38:40
Nathan and Delman because he's about him
00:38:42
wrote separately but every time when
00:38:45
you come across it, for example I experience
00:38:48
it's a pity how it happened
00:38:51
a man with such inclinations Yes And so
00:38:55
turned into all this, but he loved him
00:38:58
not just appreciated, but loved Pushkin
00:39:02
who from Odessa writes where and what?
00:39:06
Pranda I really want to see him
00:39:09
the hero of 12 is actually still a hero
00:39:12
previous company
00:39:14
86,807 people
00:39:18
man's undoubted personal courage
00:39:22
in the opinion of the majority of Pushkinists who appeared
00:39:24
the main prototype of Silvio in the story
00:39:27
who among us was not shot in our youth
00:39:30
in love with this dark romantic
00:39:33
such an absolutely battle ironic hero
00:39:36
Today
00:39:38
as an adult I understand that strength
00:39:40
his figure is very unpleasant
00:39:43
I wouldn't want to be with this person
00:39:46
What's behind the cartridge, what's on the dinner table
00:39:49
Yes, but then when we were 14 years old
00:39:53
can it be so complicated so all so
00:39:58
Pechorin's whole nasty father, yes, yes
00:40:03
so this is the strongest damn thing already
00:40:07
naturally after the death of Pushkin
00:40:09
apparently the first one offers
00:40:13
at the state level
00:40:16
classic provocation is what Irina is talking about
00:40:18
Yesterday at the end of the program I said this
00:40:20
the word provoke, that is, push
00:40:23
to do what is considered
00:40:25
crime well known famous
00:40:28
thanks to Dostoevsky’s work of the Petrashevites
00:40:30
and now the police are circling. Secret Of course
00:40:34
police because people gather in that
00:40:37
including fairly well-known writers
00:40:40
there are such things not about the government
00:40:43
camp and the Petrashevsky official himself
00:40:46
Ministry of Foreign Affairs means
00:40:48
possible connections abroad it is clear that
00:40:51
a man is introduced but a man
00:40:54
reports Well, they're talking there Well
00:40:58
that's all
00:41:01
I want something more meat I want Yes
00:41:05
material something I want to take them
00:41:07
not by talking can be taken in the end
00:41:10
in the end they'll sew on the conversations, but it's like
00:41:14
called What is called from poverty
00:41:15
what does Prandi offer? Goes Caucasian
00:41:19
war Yes Shamil is still at the head
00:41:22
Let's let some fake ones down
00:41:25
Highlanders but Kleona but they can’t help but
00:41:29
take a bite But it’s so great
00:41:31
say opportunity
00:41:33
a whole rebellious region that can
00:41:38
use properly and there More
00:41:40
there are rumors about English gold
00:41:43
Turkish gold
00:41:45
and started working and seemed to have already found
00:41:50
two some Circassians from the Imperial
00:41:53
convoy The fact is that the Imperial
00:41:55
the convoy included
00:41:58
Circassian horsemen and they found two like this
00:42:02
tell the officers who
00:42:05
seemed ready to do this
00:42:08
the role of Shamil's emissaries but then
00:42:10
for some reason the bosses who
00:42:12
The bosses always get in the way
00:42:14
such a plan, well, they’re not artists
00:42:18
here are the bureaucrats, come on
00:42:21
in general they failed the whole thing
00:42:25
Well, the second one, so to speak, than leprandi
00:42:29
of course the spiritual father of the Russian
00:42:31
provocations like any true artist
00:42:34
and he is an artist of political investigation
00:42:37
amazing thing this man was looking for
00:42:39
I seem to have found myself in the war, but it’s a bit boring
00:42:43
then the war, not every day I looked for myself in
00:42:46
duels Well, yes, it’s cool, but he’s too busy giving
00:42:50
get up devils What time do you have to leave So
00:42:53
you understand better than others that it’s all in the morning
00:42:56
done Yes, I'm tired of the duel, I need to
00:43:00
this way he wouldn’t get tired of it Judging
00:43:03
throughout the rest of his long life he
00:43:05
he was almost 90 when he died
00:43:07
So he proposes to establish an academy
00:43:13
Well, stop using some
00:43:15
typed incomprehensibly according to the advertisement
00:43:18
personnel Well, who are we in the corps of gendarmes
00:43:21
Well, the army officers who went over
00:43:25
better career prospects and
00:43:27
large salaries in a separate building
00:43:29
gendarmes Well, this is the army
00:43:33
we need inspired people, we need people themselves
00:43:37
so to speak, going what offers
00:43:39
do Lady need to create an academy
00:43:43
Secret Service Academy Where to get personnel
00:43:46
Do you know who he suggests contacting?
00:43:49
This is what a real artist means. I would like
00:43:52
it didn’t occur to me, come on, He suggests
00:43:55
ask university rectors Which of
00:44:00
students on their own initiative
00:44:02
knocks on comrades
00:44:05
these are the most valuable personnel and when will it become clear
00:44:09
that such and such is not for fear
00:44:11
but for the sake of conscience, but not because of himself
00:44:14
there they threaten with expulsion but because
00:44:16
his soul sings so he wants to lay
00:44:19
classmate of these most valuable piece goods
00:44:22
people need to be gathered
00:44:25
talk strengthen them so to speak
00:44:29
salvific intention and special
00:44:32
the educational institution was hacked down again
00:44:35
very low yes But even in this lowness
00:44:39
or is there some kind of perfection in truth?
00:44:42
in everything I've taken up I've taken up something
00:44:46
do it like that for the most part, oh my gosh, that's it
00:44:49
could have become his motto If only
00:44:52
he was no longer there
00:44:55
killed because the idea was leaked
00:44:59
these liberals are like this before the 50s
00:45:03
save
00:45:05
contemporaries with Chernyshevsky we
00:45:07
to the good-hearted who is this Shame and baseness
00:45:11
the event was canceled again
00:45:15
we were going to talk to you about that
00:45:18
Why do people become provocateurs?
00:45:21
Yesterday we talked about why people
00:45:23
become
00:45:25
Means
00:45:26
today you are terrorists and provocateurs
00:45:29
you know the reasons are quite similar
00:45:34
about the same
00:45:39
fear
00:45:41
ambition and thrill seeking are not well
00:45:45
remember yesterday it was also aggravated
00:45:47
there is a sense of justice here somehow
00:45:50
this was more difficult with this it was more difficult but
00:45:53
It’s impossible to say that this is not the case at all
00:45:56
today we are down to one such character
00:45:58
let's get there who had something of his own
00:46:01
sense of justice and by the way
00:46:04
how he ended his life he is in
00:46:07
in general, once again confirmed but not
00:46:09
We'll be there for 5 minutes now. So
00:46:12
the first high-profile case of provocation is here
00:46:15
really loud
00:46:17
associated with a person who It would seem
00:46:20
not intended for that at all
00:46:22
to become not a revolutionary
00:46:24
provocateur, you know how he passed the second
00:46:27
part of it not related to the revolution
00:46:29
life in exile in the United States
00:46:31
yes On the other side of the world he became
00:46:33
famous mathematics professor
00:46:36
Moriarty immediately comes to mind and what’s more
00:46:39
at one of the American universities I
00:46:42
I checked that the scholarship still exists
00:46:45
students are awarded in his name
00:46:47
for some outstanding
00:46:49
math achievements
00:46:51
Well, really, he became not under his own name, but under
00:46:55
remade, he first took a maiden name
00:46:58
mother's surname was later changed
00:47:00
American manners So dear mother
00:47:01
does not recognize the real name of Dygaev
00:47:04
a person who at one time acquired
00:47:06
Narodnaya Volya participated in the preparation
00:47:09
one of the assassination attempts, the famous tunnel
00:47:11
near Sadovaya and then came out to him
00:47:14
Georgiy Porfirievich judges is one of
00:47:18
understand the demon and why the angel
00:47:22
who needs he needs to snake today
00:47:26
we'll meet three of these or maybe
00:47:31
it was one snake, just three different ones
00:47:33
heads, by the way, I lean towards this version
00:47:36
he is such a
00:47:38
Jesuit in every sense of the word in that
00:47:42
number in the classic can talk
00:47:45
talk Yes, this is not stupid again
00:47:48
I repeat, army dubya in gendarmerie uniform
00:47:50
uniform which only with pood fists
00:47:52
knows how to work No, have some tea, so what?
00:47:56
you, my friend, are not with us, but such people
00:47:58
Russia needs
00:48:00
It was no coincidence that I mentioned
00:48:02
Dagaev's mathematical mindset I don't
00:48:05
I want to completely offend mathematicians
00:48:07
representatives of the immeasurable, respected by me
00:48:10
science But here is my many years of communication with
00:48:13
uh capable people in this area
00:48:16
led me to the conviction that they
00:48:18
naturally you know this is inevitable
00:48:21
in their science there is a tendency towards the abstract
00:48:24
thinking
00:48:25
which some things uh What's called
00:48:29
removes the sign modulo so much A
00:48:34
what's wrong with the vector?
00:48:36
worries yes And this is sometimes when
00:48:40
Judge's correct serve was great
00:48:42
a master of his craft, like this
00:48:44
moral
00:48:46
deafness or moral equivalence
00:48:48
forgive no rude Russian word here it is
00:48:51
sometimes they seem to fall into this trap
00:48:54
they turn on as a result it looks like this is already
00:48:59
my house and everything and he bought it no
00:49:02
only on fear fear of course
00:49:03
was present that so to speak if he is not
00:49:08
will go to the judge's proposal then
00:49:10
may end up hanging at best
00:49:12
hard labor here But besides this It seems that
00:49:15
Sudikekin was carried away by his beauty decision
00:49:18
tasks
00:49:20
But you can, and you continue to become
00:49:25
my agent to work in the revolutionary
00:49:28
Wednesday and bring them to me on a silver platter and here you go
00:49:31
brings on a platter what's left of
00:49:35
People's will after they are
00:49:37
captured
00:49:38
Pervomarkovtsy sometimes works out for us
00:49:42
the impression that there is something there
00:49:43
There's practically nothing left. Well, let's go for a walk
00:49:45
some minor people nothing
00:49:47
there's a lot of stuff like that left there
00:49:50
names Well, those are exactly what to say
00:49:53
called to everyone who is interested
00:49:55
famous ones, for example
00:50:00
the people there were also not of a weak caliber
00:50:03
it’s another matter that they didn’t thunder like that, but
00:50:07
in many ways they did not thunder because
00:50:08
they were delivered on time
00:50:10
and then Degaev is abroad either
00:50:15
he realized what he did or whether he did it again
00:50:18
scared but he turns to the lion
00:50:21
Tikhomirov is also extremely
00:50:23
interesting figure in populist
00:50:24
movement which at this time is like this
00:50:28
actually the leader of the Narodnaya Volya in
00:50:30
emigration and talks about how yes
00:50:33
You know, I played this one
00:50:35
swinish role not in the history of Narodnaya Volya
00:50:37
But I did it because the judge is on
00:50:42
in fact, he helped us. We
00:50:46
through him information We are on the Rodovoltsy
00:50:48
received How much of this is true I don’t know
00:50:53
maybe he really is a judge
00:50:56
used for willows and this one
00:50:58
the guise of a double agent is quite true
00:51:01
say by
00:51:02
further methods of gendarmerie
00:51:04
control option is quite working
00:51:07
maybe Gaev came up with this idea later
00:51:10
a story to somehow justify it
00:51:13
Party comrades are simple enough
00:51:15
the guys said ok
00:51:20
you know this is all crazy
00:51:22
reminds me of a criminal river, screwed up
00:51:27
unwind Prove that you are an honest fraer Yes
00:51:30
they say so
00:51:35
the cops are litter there Prove it
00:51:38
messed up, clean up after yourself and we'll get you back again
00:51:40
let's sit you next to us on the bunk or
00:51:43
let's give you blood, friends
00:51:46
to kill Sudikein such a one was lured by Sudekin
00:51:50
there were two more militants at the apartment
00:51:53
Sudikekin by k naturally something
00:51:55
I felt I took my nephew with me
00:51:57
also a gendarmerie officer as
00:51:59
security but Two against three is not yours
00:52:02
They’re dancing, of course they’re doing their part badly
00:52:04
done the work started shooting earlier
00:52:06
time
00:52:08
the judges managed to slip into the bathroom there
00:52:11
lock up well got it got the details
00:52:15
I won’t tell you they are quite terrible
00:52:18
killed
00:52:20
after which party friendly well
00:52:22
well done well done you understand Trust
00:52:25
you don’t, but the claims against you are removed
00:52:28
Live as you want, just don't get caught
00:52:30
more, well, he went to America
00:52:32
finally took care of my beloved
00:52:34
mathematics achieved in it means to me
00:52:36
high steppes what surname
00:52:39
oh If I'm not mistaken I sang because
00:52:42
the maiden mother's surname was either
00:52:44
Polyakov or something similar, he took it
00:52:47
then her
00:52:48
Americanized it turned out to be something
00:52:50
like that
00:52:51
means uh the second figure about which
00:52:55
I want to tell you this, Maxim O
00:52:58
what did you ask, did you say that these
00:53:00
there can be no sense of justice
00:53:02
eat worse
00:53:05
maybe maybe Sergey Vasilievich
00:53:08
zubats
00:53:10
young man What is it called
00:53:13
noble and sublime
00:53:16
finished my mentality
00:53:19
[music]
00:53:20
education
00:53:22
works for minor officials and for the soul A
00:53:26
also for the sake of a little let's just say
00:53:28
earns a small income and works part-time in
00:53:31
the private library had these in those days
00:53:34
times and here is a private library
00:53:36
advanced views woman contains it
00:53:39
then he marries her
00:53:40
it means it comes there naturally
00:53:43
young people with progressive views they know
00:53:46
what if you ask for the correct ones?
00:53:49
words besides the fact that it’s worth opening
00:53:52
there is some more literature on the shelves
00:53:55
which does not fit on the shelves in a row
00:53:59
reasons Yes, here you can get it
00:54:03
read you can meet others
00:54:05
people who have read all this
00:54:07
discuss and here on our toothy
00:54:10
there is another one so talented
00:54:12
recruiter who calls
00:54:15
at first it will scare you until your pants are wet
00:54:19
then some tea in good glass holders and what
00:54:22
you, my friend, can’t you see already?
00:54:25
what do you and I think in principle?
00:54:27
the same as what you think of us gendarmes
00:54:30
officers are not worried about corruption
00:54:33
disturbed by abuse Do not disturb
00:54:36
what is often in power
00:54:38
unscrupulous people Let's get together
00:54:41
darling Yes
00:54:44
I feel I see shine
00:54:51
I repeat just as simply as simply
00:54:54
just like third rate
00:54:56
provincial actor what are people
00:54:57
invented, can you imagine how much? And if
00:55:00
if it weren't for this cozy studio camera this
00:55:03
you know, the decorations don't need to be counted
00:55:06
throwing off is one thing to play in cloth
00:55:08
the performance is another matter in the scenery
00:55:11
made by a great master Yes
00:55:14
And I really don’t know the Zubats sincerely
00:55:17
or not but it looks like it sincerely looks like
00:55:20
further actions of his zubat How
00:55:23
so you're the devil, they really are me
00:55:26
I was deceived with this library, I thought
00:55:29
that I serve means the good of Russia there
00:55:32
beautiful Russia of the future So what?
00:55:35
they are villains
00:55:38
and he says: Yes, I’m with you, I’m important, but
00:55:42
just my friend, don’t immediately think that you
00:55:44
epaulettes on the shoulders Yes, there is a certificate of
00:55:47
pocket and everything else badge so to speak
00:55:50
no We must first prove this
00:55:53
of course what needs to be proven is still
00:55:57
one is what Dovlatov is talking about in the zone
00:55:59
writes brightly Yes, that's on different sides
00:56:02
barbed wire is the same thing, yes it is necessary
00:56:06
prove and Zubatov turns out to be on
00:56:11
provocative secret work Then he
00:56:14
will become an official sometimes
00:56:16
even the officer writes it wrong, he never
00:56:19
wore shoulder straps He always wore civilian clothes like that
00:56:22
tell the department the numbers, but it doesn't matter
00:56:24
it's important that he
00:56:27
will give a few meanings
00:56:32
these are revolutionaries and then will write
00:56:37
anyone about the famous hunter
00:56:40
provocateurs to Vladimir Lvovich Burtsev
00:56:43
Sherlock Holmes of the Russian Revolution will be
00:56:45
the writer will be so very strange
00:56:47
correspondence between fighters tried to recruit him in
00:56:50
letters where after the resignation of the Zubats
00:56:52
darling write Memoirs write write
00:56:55
must disappear write Memoirs And Burds
00:56:58
they entered, they are flowing, yes, He is looking for these
00:57:01
nuggets of information They are mainly to
00:57:04
they all come to him from the secret police
00:57:06
famous revelations He's just in
00:57:08
the right time for the right person to be able to
00:57:10
ask an unnecessary necessary question yes What
00:57:13
his talent lies primarily in this
00:57:14
and in a bull terrier grip, of course
00:57:16
But the fighters were not convinced. It seems that
00:57:21
was it filmed after passing the zubats and still not
00:57:24
wrote Memoirs Or maybe they wrote too
00:57:26
disappeared but in general they are not there
00:57:27
And then Burtseva will write Zubatov Well
00:57:31
yes, during this period of my life there were two
00:57:35
three episodes that caused me
00:57:37
strong moral torment But this
00:57:40
solely because of his clubbed hand we
00:57:42
bosses Amazing too Of course
00:57:44
moral deafness I'm ashamed of this
00:57:48
remember but ashamed Why Because
00:57:50
the case failed and everything became known
00:57:53
these are the shoals of my bosses who don’t
00:57:56
approached with the proper note of poetry
00:57:58
such an important art, how's it going?
00:58:00
political wanted and then handing over
00:58:04
exams What is called zubat becomes
00:58:07
already quite an official
00:58:11
the relevant department is sufficient
00:58:13
convincingly moving up
00:58:16
career ladder becomes one of
00:58:19
leaders of the Moscow security
00:58:21
departments, I remind you of a security department
00:58:23
- This
00:58:24
another type of specialized police
00:58:28
Yes, there was a police department that dealt with it
00:58:30
there's an insane amount of questions about
00:58:33
desanitary control maintenance
00:58:36
tiles and borders tiles borders That
00:58:40
there today
00:58:42
we've been doing this
00:58:45
ranks so to speak of the police Here and there
00:58:50
there is a detective department that arose there in
00:58:55
80s there is a security department here it is
00:58:58
Moscow security guard And here he comes out
00:59:00
absolutely brilliant project
00:59:02
which proves that he is also an artist
00:59:05
how or go through, you know, cheap
00:59:09
careerist What is he doing? He chops sticks.
00:59:11
so he needs to chop a certain amount
00:59:14
sticks in order to get another
00:59:16
the star of the senior Opera and then here he is
00:59:19
stupidly chops these sticks and catches students Yes
00:59:22
so to speak, who is simpler and he is an artist
00:59:27
he's trying to find the cause of the disease
00:59:32
they grab onto some superficial
00:59:34
symptom here we have a growing working
00:59:37
movement
00:59:38
in this labor movement more and more
00:59:43
more begin to appear
00:59:45
revolutionaries ends with zubat it
00:59:48
felt the period was ending
00:59:49
People's will, that is,
00:59:51
secret organization which
00:59:53
works alone without contact with those for whom
00:59:57
she kind of works
00:59:59
dissatisfied people no new appeared
01:00:02
the generation that went to the masses
01:00:04
creates work circles and writes for them
01:00:07
simplified statements of capital there others
01:00:10
so to speak
01:00:12
revolutionary ideas
01:00:15
we need something to counteract this and
01:00:17
Zubatov invents
01:00:23
legal labor movement he invents
01:00:27
brilliant thing
01:00:29
it is still in full use and
01:00:33
we are observing this legal working
01:00:35
movement I observe living nearby
01:00:38
Luzhnikov Just sometimes in mode
01:00:40
real time and Zubatov invents
01:00:43
legal labor movement only in
01:00:45
unlike the current ones which have 3
01:00:47
ruble on Market Day he still has
01:00:51
the opportunity to find ideas because the idea
01:00:54
so beautiful
01:00:57
Let's not only grab the police
01:01:00
and beat but vice versa
01:01:04
in the eyes of workers the defender of their interests
01:01:08
after all, this was bequeathed even according to legend
01:01:12
in reality this apparently didn’t happen, but it’s a legend
01:01:15
in the gendarmerie corps, just to this day
01:01:17
since then, in my opinion, it has been transmitted from the lips of an empty
01:01:19
Although there seems to be no gendarme corps
01:01:23
In general, everything I say reminds you
01:01:25
completely out of touch with current realities
01:01:28
when Emperor Nicholas
01:01:30
Pavlovich established the third department he
01:01:32
General Alexander Khristoforovich
01:01:34
Benckendorff handed over a Snow White Shawl with
01:01:37
an order to wipe away tears with this handkerchief
01:01:40
offended and suffering here Let's
01:01:43
police almost a hundred years after the order
01:01:45
will finally do it
01:01:48
the manufacturer is angry with us at the police, we him
01:01:51
let's shorten the master's hands open to us
01:01:54
police Factory inspection nothing
01:01:56
Maybe
01:01:57
to our police station
01:02:01
Minister of Internal Affairs Vasily
01:02:03
Konstantinovich fanpleve
01:02:06
Well, absolutely all of this
01:02:09
you didn’t want to accept it, my dear
01:02:11
you're delusional but we don't have any
01:02:13
organized Revolution there are separate
01:02:16
circles of troublemakers Here you are
01:02:18
The circles should reveal and cover
01:02:20
damn mother and we have people
01:02:22
Orthodox Tsar loves a barrel In general
01:02:24
sounded like he was a Theory teacher
01:02:27
official nationality into provincial
01:02:30
seminary, but an intelligent person doesn’t interfere
01:02:34
became, especially since they were toothy
01:02:35
serious patrons of his selection
01:02:38
allowed the experiment
01:02:40
failed this experiment failed
01:02:43
partly due to stupidity and jealousy Oh how
01:02:46
zubatov trampled with his trained
01:02:48
Yes, it would be necessary to give him a pig, but
01:02:52
it's always easy to put a pig on
01:02:54
some kind of concerted demonstration
01:02:56
foolishly pulled out a red flag Yes, someone is there
01:02:59
shouted down with the king, the replacement diodes are all
01:03:02
it's all fixed, look here
01:03:05
look catfish raise their own They seem to
01:03:07
how tame their teeth are
01:03:11
of course my teeth too
01:03:14
in the forest he is in an intrigue against the chaff, but here he is
01:03:18
this stupid guy infuriated him and he met
01:03:21
with the smart one with Sergei Yurievich Witte a view
01:03:25
I just couldn’t eat, it irritated him so much
01:03:28
the presence of a hymen at the key post
01:03:31
they made up the Minister of Internal Affairs
01:03:33
some spice was naturally hit
01:03:36
people naturally play toothy player simply
01:03:40
smeared it himself, many years will pass and in
01:03:44
February of the seventeenth year Having learned about
01:03:46
abdication of the Emperor Sergei
01:03:49
Vasilievich Zubatov has lived for many years
01:03:51
for retirees to retire to a neighboring
01:03:53
room and shoot
01:03:55
read the newspaper, folded it, went out next door
01:03:59
room and shot himself. This is my question about
01:04:01
that of course he wasn’t There were people there too
01:04:04
ideas about goodness are very different
01:04:07
distorted but apparently they were
01:04:10
And of course we have a Tale of Two ahead of us
01:04:13
I don’t even know which names to choose. Well, I know
01:04:15
actually what
01:04:20
it's actually very simple
01:04:22
you can read a lot of things
01:04:26
written But for those who don’t want to Here
01:04:28
rummage through academic literature
01:04:31
interesting to read something quite
01:04:34
reliable but at the same time high
01:04:36
artistically I recommend historical
01:04:38
essay markle given which is so
01:04:40
called Azov yes And then if you
01:04:43
it will become even more interesting further you without
01:04:45
you’ll find a hard way to deepen it all, but
01:04:48
Azef is a classic example
01:04:50
adventurer
01:04:52
and what exactly was he recruited for?
01:04:55
Berlin He studied there to be an engineer
01:04:58
why to recruit him was criminal
01:05:01
absolutely criminal case stretching from
01:05:03
Russian theft
01:05:05
But even if he was recruited out of fear, he
01:05:09
Certainly made contact He himself is what they call
01:05:12
initiative that this is a classic
01:05:15
example of an adventurer
01:05:17
dosev loved money yes zev loved
01:05:20
restaurants loved beautiful women who
01:05:23
he preferred Buyer not what are you talking about
01:05:26
speak now Alexey Valerievich can
01:05:28
think about those present in the studio
01:05:31
they don’t like it, of course, well, I don’t know
01:05:35
Maxim has been suspicious since I
01:05:36
I found out that he doesn't eat meat
01:05:38
Why did you think
01:05:43
Why should I, well, I’m kidding of course, but here it is
01:05:48
but of course the way he behaved is
01:05:53
exactly
01:05:54
the acute pleasure of moving along the blade
01:05:58
and of course the special relish is getting 500
01:06:04
rub in from the gendarmerie department from
01:06:07
political police director 600
01:06:09
received approximately Yes and Agent 500 And at
01:06:13
this is what leads them by the nose too
01:06:17
he led both revolutionaries and his
01:06:20
curators what he gave out
01:06:23
revolutionaries and on the other hand in
01:06:25
in some cases it did not issue another
01:06:28
so to speak, the doomed one exploded or his
01:06:33
found a bullet and then you say it yourself
01:06:35
it's your fault you warned me too late
01:06:38
I didn't have time to talk about this incident, I just couldn't
01:06:41
because then they would quickly fold
01:06:44
two and two and it would become clear that I
01:06:47
who would I like to end up with?
01:06:50
I would like to end up as a Gapon because
01:06:54
do what you want, here's the image, here you go
01:06:58
write dozens of books of varying degrees
01:07:02
popularity of thickness and people as in their own way
01:07:06
the provocateur took time from the short course
01:07:09
it’s still muttering, although it would already seem
01:07:13
should have ended or approached
01:07:15
towards the end people who studied briefly
01:07:18
VKPB history course Yes, nothing is transferred
01:07:24
Maxim I'm afraid what's in the brain
01:07:27
damn they would work like crazy
01:07:31
there would be fewer heart attacks I'm afraid that
01:07:33
he's in the brains and here's how he got there
01:07:36
I honestly don’t know how to clean it, but
01:07:39
maybe today I'll surprise someone
01:07:41
message no pop Gapon are not police
01:07:45
provocateur
01:07:47
Well, more precisely a priest
01:07:49
Alexander Shkabon
01:07:52
outstanding absolutely complete
01:07:55
standard ambitious
01:07:58
But there are many such people in politics
01:08:02
I don’t know where more in the ruling or in
01:08:04
I think the opposition is about equally divided
01:08:06
Because it has no
01:08:08
attitude to political position is
01:08:10
personal quality Gapon saw himself
01:08:14
he was a tribune and a leader, he was an ascetic
01:08:18
indifferent to luxury and comfort Yes
01:08:22
most of the pleasures that were
01:08:25
so caring
01:08:26
but he was jealous he was jealous of
01:08:31
Preaching Glory Anna
01:08:33
He was jealous of Kronstadt once
01:08:36
someone made a joke Georgy Alexandrovich Well
01:08:40
look, the French had Napoleon A
01:08:42
We Gapon have such a primitive rhyme on
01:08:45
that the Gapons said quite seriously
01:08:49
wait, I still have time
01:08:51
Maybe I will also be the new Napoleon
01:08:55
he's clearly absolutely this is the idea
01:08:57
the leader who sat in the head but he
01:09:01
Certainly
01:09:02
organizing this very working
01:09:04
It’s not that I didn’t intend to demonstrate
01:09:07
bring military people under fire
01:09:11
on the contrary, it could not have occurred to him
01:09:14
that these clubs will bring the clubs to this
01:09:17
these are the ones who will
01:09:18
give the order to shoot
01:09:21
But that's what's in this story of a club
01:09:24
everywhere You see, I still can’t
01:09:28
imagine what you need to be
01:09:30
today I repeat today it is spent
01:09:34
money effort Luzhniki in the end
01:09:38
I think they depreciate quite a lot
01:09:40
to put together this concert in
01:09:45
in every sense of the word, everything is done for you here
01:09:48
ready to skim the cream workers yourself
01:09:52
free day off in fact clean clothes
01:09:56
picked it up
01:09:58
singing psalms with children, so to speak
01:10:01
there and their wives go to the king for barrels
01:10:04
true and here it would be like in Russia Here they are
01:10:08
everything pours out in a wide stream of people
01:10:10
Tsar Backachka comes out to the palace square
01:10:13
to the balcony that my children are offending you
01:10:16
beloved people kneel down and sing
01:10:19
God save the Tsar, but the Tsar is offended, so what?
01:10:23
you guys are already lying to them
01:10:28
sings flatly God save the king only
01:10:31
now I'll go backwards
01:10:33
O
01:10:36
Well, there is no Channel One to film everything
01:10:38
Well, I don’t know, the newspaper already has all this
01:10:43
so it was necessary to waste it all like that and
01:10:47
cause the first Russian revolution yes
01:10:49
then Gapon will shake from
01:10:51
he will run as a revolutionary, that is, but
01:10:53
this is exactly proof that he
01:10:56
just crazy listen guys Yes you are
01:11:00
You don’t know how to work at all. How about you?
01:11:03
deal I sincerely believed that
01:11:07
do you really want working people
01:11:09
to be intercessors and I am ready to be
01:11:12
a mediator, but he offers himself
01:11:14
not as a provocateur not as
01:11:16
He offers himself as an agent
01:11:18
most important most valuable and completely openly
01:11:21
and not a secret detail You need Connect
01:11:25
here I am
01:11:27
I will be my worker and will be with you
01:11:30
speak respectfully and understandingly
01:11:32
Yes
01:11:34
Well with these people it's impossible to have
01:11:37
it's impossible by the way I say
01:11:41
for those who listen to us for a long time, guys
01:11:46
re-read this case, re-read
01:11:50
if you have questions, a good recruiter
01:11:55
I'll tell you Alexey, you know I can do this
01:11:59
play
01:12:00
that I can play this for the public But
01:12:04
this is necessary
01:12:08
I can’t live without an audience, I start right away
01:12:12
moo darling 200 rubles per month
01:12:14
Think more bonuses before secret
01:12:17
fund not accountable to production
01:12:20
second
01:12:32
today we are talking about people who
01:12:36
Some of them I got excited yesterday
01:12:38
said Yes, they are all scoundrels, no they are
01:12:40
exaggeration Although a considerable part of course
01:12:43
may be so certified But one of
01:12:47
they are generally quite random
01:12:49
at least one such character today
01:12:51
there will be someone, apparently not at all
01:12:55
was because when we talk about
01:12:57
how How are they created basically
01:13:00
totalitarian regimes but not necessarily
01:13:03
and today there will also be a Prime Minister of the regime
01:13:06
quite democratic which What
01:13:08
called cautious And when is it created
01:13:10
these are the martyrs and the new figures
01:13:15
saints and I want to say what it is in this
01:13:18
In any case, it’s not an exaggeration to write about this
01:13:20
many scientists who do this
01:13:23
is seriously doing this
01:13:25
researchers of the topic that of course is based
01:13:28
all this lies in Christian geography
01:13:32
What is the tradition of writing lives?
01:13:36
saints
01:13:37
people who do this no matter how
01:13:41
theologians and as secular scientists
01:13:43
religious scholars Here they highlight several
01:13:47
There are templates for these same O geographies
01:13:51
this type of life is in it
01:13:54
necessarily such and such elements A
01:13:56
there is a life of this type in it
01:13:58
necessarily some such elements
01:14:00
It is clear that there are different saints
01:14:03
holy martyrs who accepted martyrdom
01:14:05
Death for faith is, so to speak, warriors
01:14:08
who defended this Faith there yes
01:14:10
different type will be different accordingly
01:14:12
earthly life so it’s interesting that one
01:14:16
researcher for example
01:14:17
studied the biographies of Soviet Pioneers
01:14:20
heroes and counted six of these very
01:14:23
templates
01:14:25
there will always be something sinless at the core
01:14:28
childhood and some righteous Komsomolskaya
01:14:30
there or Pionerskaya
01:14:32
love, how much of it is there? Enough
01:14:34
further Here's the structure of the feat, so to speak
01:14:37
and this structure of the feat branches into
01:14:40
6 types that fit there Valya
01:14:43
cat morality kazey here and these here and these
01:14:46
here What I mean is that everything is of course a scheme and also
01:14:50
one confirmation that this is a phenomenon
01:14:53
not just some disposable ones there
01:14:56
breakthroughs of individual people's fantasies And this
01:14:58
precisely a social phenomenon
01:14:59
indicates that it
01:15:01
archetyped I want to remind I
01:15:04
I think that the vast majority of our
01:15:06
listeners from a literary work
01:15:07
well known this is Orwellian
01:15:12
1984 where exactly is this
01:15:15
constitutes an important plot line of the novel
01:15:18
main character
01:15:21
Romana employee of the Ministry of Truth
01:15:24
Winston Smith whose task is
01:15:26
rewrite already published newspaper articles
01:15:29
articles in accordance with the Changed
01:15:32
moment here it is, so to speak, a side one
01:15:35
somehow
01:15:37
invents
01:15:39
fantastic man man
01:15:41
who never had a certain comrade
01:15:45
which was led by a patriotic
01:15:48
virtuous lifestyle in old age
01:15:52
three years old gave up all toys except
01:15:55
drum of a toy machine and
01:15:57
helicopter Yes At the age of 6 he joined
01:15:59
youth organization So then here
01:16:04
I say then I betrayed my uncle
01:16:06
police because I overheard
01:16:09
some citizen is not enthusiastic
01:16:12
the conversation then became more
01:16:14
adult youth organization himself
01:16:17
made a hand grenade which is there
01:16:20
was adopted into service Well, in the end
01:16:23
accepted as expected at 23 years old
01:16:27
aged heroic death during a battle with
01:16:30
enemy helicopter remember he is in
01:16:34
as a child I gave up all toys except
01:16:36
including a helicopter that was flying on
01:16:38
in the helicopter they tried to say it
01:16:40
intercept enemy fighters and he
01:16:43
took the machine gun off the turret and put it under his jacket
01:16:47
important secret documents and jumped from
01:16:50
helicopter into the open ocean and there it means
01:16:52
died but saved secret documents
01:16:55
allowed weapons to fall into the hands of the enemy
01:16:58
this is absolutely so to say
01:16:59
this one is exemplary
01:17:02
I just remember when I read
01:17:05
1984 It was an even moment when
01:17:09
Pobeda airline was formed
01:17:13
at the very beginning if you remember everything
01:17:16
called Pobeda roughly speaking residential
01:17:18
the complex is called Pobeda Coffee
01:17:20
called will tell and so on in honor
01:17:22
this means something like Victory, oh how similar it is
01:17:26
I wish I knew how it would develop later
01:17:28
Sorry, I thought Maxim would tell me now
01:17:31
when I read up to this point I decided
01:17:32
become a professional journalist
01:17:45
but the thing is that
01:17:47
he didn't make it up Yes he did
01:17:50
hypertrophied taken from life and here I am
01:17:53
I promised to give you an example when
01:17:54
this kind of activity can be
01:17:57
it is not necessary to meet in practice
01:17:58
totalitarian states for which it
01:18:01
absolutely natural and just there
01:18:03
in all without exception we are something
01:18:05
we'll find something similar. Well, for example, during
01:18:07
First World War, absolutely
01:18:09
wonderful with the British cow
01:18:12
the press that creates propaganda
01:18:16
myth of the crucified soldier
01:18:19
as expected So there are specifics Yes
01:18:22
so to speak, the city is named, the date is named
01:18:25
here is the famous battle of Ypres
01:18:29
famous for being there
01:18:31
used means toxic substances Yes
01:18:34
April 24, 1915 means the Germans took
01:18:39
captivity
01:18:40
soldiers from the Canadian Corps which
01:18:43
fought as part of the British forces and means
01:18:46
they crucified him either on a tree or on
01:18:49
fence and further notes about this
01:18:52
and it all starts all over again with some
01:18:56
local newspapers then the main caliber
01:18:59
secretly bangs and releases an article that
01:19:03
called torcher
01:19:05
torture of a Canadian officer then
01:19:08
a sculptor appears who
01:19:09
inspired by this story and who
01:19:13
eighteenth year already on the eve of Victory
01:19:15
it means the monument is executed in bronze then
01:19:18
this
01:19:19
installed but the truth is through
01:19:22
for a certain time the Germans raised
01:19:25
they asked for the head, is it possible to prove it?
01:19:28
at least some Well, literally here
01:19:29
is there any proof
01:19:32
post the link and the result will be
01:19:34
there was nothing to show why
01:19:36
It turned out that nothing like this has ever happened
01:19:38
there wasn’t and I had to because it was a sculpture
01:19:40
remove and sometimes use as
01:19:43
artifact of other exhibitions As an example of this
01:19:46
how the press sometimes creates things like this
01:19:49
that means having absolutely no
01:19:52
relationship to reality world
01:19:54
another example from the same area
01:19:57
our pioneer heroism
01:19:59
there is a discussion going on, it continues to this day
01:20:02
day about whether there was one of the most
01:20:06
early pioneer heroes means boy
01:20:09
Grishan who was allegedly also killed
01:20:12
there, so to speak, enemies of Soviet power
01:20:15
for his pioneer righteousness
01:20:19
and it’s completely incomprehensible that I’m deep in
01:20:21
I didn’t lick this story But at least
01:20:23
at least there is a version that this is also
01:20:27
constructed figure that this is not
01:20:29
although there seem to be arguments in
01:20:32
benefit of the fact that this is a real person and
01:20:34
really at least what's there
01:20:36
similar to the story in
01:20:39
Pioneer press in the thirtieth
01:20:40
they say something similar is happening
01:20:42
But let's take the story itself
01:20:46
famous, probably the most striking example of
01:20:48
using these images
01:20:50
martyrs, namely children of the Soviet
01:20:54
I did not promote the story of Pavlik Morozov
01:20:56
I'll tell you in detail, I'm sure
01:20:58
that the canonical version is good for everyone
01:21:00
famous probably many people know that
01:21:02
today in general Although history is far from
01:21:06
complete clarity is still very far away
01:21:08
quite a few controversial points
01:21:11
the program is wrong in my opinion Alexey
01:21:13
Kuznetsova where she sorted out the case
01:21:15
absolutely true you could listen but this
01:21:18
it was very Well because it was 9 years ago
01:21:20
this is the very beginning of our show
01:21:23
constantly listening to your beginning I know
01:21:26
no Irisha The thing is that we are preparing with
01:21:28
Sergei rebel for the celebrations
01:21:31
next week next week 9
01:21:33
not so many years ago, but this historical one
01:21:35
process and the transfer disappeared Komarozova
01:21:37
was either the second or the third, that is
01:21:39
that's why he said it confidently, but the point is
01:21:42
that very recently in the program
01:21:43
amateurs a couple of months ago
01:21:46
There was also a program about Moroz’s peacock weight
01:21:49
Vitaly Dymarsky because in uh
01:21:52
one of the recent issues of amateurs in
01:21:54
The process section was dedicated to this
01:21:56
article and Here, respectively, Vitali and I
01:21:58
let's teach some things related to this
01:22:00
they said things in the article so in general
01:22:02
not difficult to find for those who are interested E
01:22:05
what is clear for today for today
01:22:07
it is clear that the public really was that
01:22:10
he really was most likely killed
01:22:13
chemistry Who was ultimately convicted
01:22:16
for his murder, that is, him
01:22:17
his relatives but his brother
01:22:20
grandfather at the same time apparently really
01:22:22
provided some assistance
01:22:24
his own grandmother but what today too
01:22:27
there is little Doubt It is that it is Real
01:22:31
the reason for the murder is within the family
01:22:36
absolutely monstrous relationships
01:22:39
Here in this family of frosts there are involved
01:22:42
jealousy mixed with meanness
01:22:45
treachery involved in
01:22:48
most painful for the peasants at any
01:22:50
authorities in the land survey are involved
01:22:54
on some neighbors' ones like these
01:22:57
relationships
01:22:58
what will two boys become victims of?
01:23:01
teenager one very small yes
01:23:03
Pavlik's younger brother That's Soviet
01:23:07
the authorities are counting for just at this time
01:23:10
it is extremely important to betray oneself to this
01:23:12
stories
01:23:13
political sound As a result, we
01:23:15
we get what we get we get
01:23:17
boy who
01:23:18
was killed by enemies of Soviet power for
01:23:21
that he is an active friend of Soviet power for
01:23:23
that he fulfilled his duty as a pioneer for
01:23:26
what he reported means about his father
01:23:28
involved in unseemly activities
01:23:30
everything most likely has none or none at all
01:23:34
no relation to reality
01:23:36
or has a very distant
01:23:38
accordingly, the fantasy of propagandists
01:23:40
Alekseevich here I’ll tell you something like gasoline
01:23:43
that children
01:23:44
it's one thing when a person really
01:23:47
didn't have time to live much and it
01:23:49
canonizes, but it’s another matter when a person
01:23:51
managed to do something like this And him
01:23:54
still canonized
01:23:56
well, you know everyone's story
01:23:59
revolutionary movement
01:24:02
In general, it’s full of such examples, yes And
01:24:05
if you delve into people's biographies
01:24:08
who were later praised in every possible way as
01:24:11
Knights without fear and reproach and there are many
01:24:14
what we discover, this also applies to biography
01:24:17
Yakov Sverdlov Yes, so to speak, which one
01:24:20
one of the early Soviet saints because
01:24:22
that he died shortly after the Oktyabrskaya there
01:24:25
revolution to live for a little over a year is
01:24:27
concerns the biography of Dzerzhinsky portrait
01:24:30
which I still strongly suspect
01:24:33
they decorate the walls more and more
01:24:35
became famous offices Yes, so to speak
01:24:38
That's the pepper itself, without fear or fear
01:24:41
Iron Felix Yes, an ascetic so to speak
01:24:45
impeccable knight of the Revolution too many
01:24:48
what kind of stuff is there in terms of cruelty and
01:24:51
in terms of e means punitive actions
01:24:54
you can find out Yes and in your personal life
01:24:57
Now we’re not talking about this, but you understand What
01:25:02
attracts topics specifically to children and young men
01:25:05
because she has the greatest
01:25:08
devastating potential effect
01:25:10
because it is addressed to the day she
01:25:13
addressed to children Yes, you understand the example
01:25:17
Pavlik Morozov is calculated precisely
01:25:19
impact on children
01:25:21
example there of Vitaly Bonevur Who remembers
01:25:25
there is a canonized Soviet
01:25:27
historiography participant of the Partisan and
01:25:31
underground movement in the Far East
01:25:33
during the civil war it was very good
01:25:35
film with Lev Prygunov and others
01:25:37
good actors in the leading role
01:25:39
In my opinion, they were filmed in the 70s. That’s it
01:25:42
there is a memorial for the older generation
01:25:43
figure or there Sergei Lazov say Yes
01:25:45
also a young man, not thirty
01:25:47
was when he died That's it so to speak
01:25:50
this works on a specific layer this is on
01:25:53
a young man pondering sewing and deciding a matter
01:25:56
even an excavator, but it’s worth it
01:25:58
Dzerzhinsky, real Dzerzhinsky there
01:26:01
yes, but Mayakovsky was such a master
01:26:05
unexpected that's why I can because
01:26:08
that I am a former school teacher
01:26:10
seems to be particularly destructive
01:26:12
myth
01:26:13
and of course the brightest
01:26:16
concentrated example in creation
01:26:18
this angelic cohort
01:26:21
little martyrs of course
01:26:23
Nazi Germany here we find it like this
01:26:25
it’s easy to say although the regime lasted
01:26:28
only 12-odd years old Yes, but for that
01:26:31
time he managed to produce a whole cohort
01:26:34
these martyr angels of the first
01:26:37
some second and third order
01:26:39
the names are well known to us. For example, I
01:26:42
I think that most of those who
01:26:43
is at least somewhat interested in the history of XX
01:26:45
centuries know the name Horst Vesal Well, first of all
01:26:49
turn thanks to that song that is so
01:26:51
say associated with him Yes maybe
01:26:53
being about the speed itself is not so good
01:26:54
it’s known, so I’m telling you that means
01:26:57
this is a young man who came to
01:27:01
assault troops even before it means
01:27:04
the Nazis actually came to power
01:27:06
he died even before that Yes, exactly 3 years ago
01:27:10
There was an extremely hryvnia there
01:27:14
although no such education in general
01:27:17
there is no literary one, but he started writing
01:27:20
the elements are actually born
01:27:22
his poem later set to
01:27:25
music that becomes like this
01:27:28
party anthem anthem of the NSDP defan and hoch
01:27:32
di ryan test and schlossen with
01:27:36
amastrait above the banners the ranks are tight
01:27:39
closed with a marching feeding
01:27:42
with a calm, firm step and then on from there
01:27:44
there is poetry of about the same quality
01:27:46
and directions here and then it means
01:27:50
dies dies in mm uh as a result
01:27:55
clashes with members of the radical
01:27:58
The communist organization was like this
01:28:01
Union of red front-line soldiers who are with them
01:28:04
essentially represented the same assault
01:28:06
detachments only of the Communist Party Yes And there
01:28:09
means a group of comrades from these same
01:28:12
The Red Union came to him for rent
01:28:14
the apartment you demanded shot him
01:28:17
but in the end he was killed in
01:28:20
as a result of which all sorts of things begin to happen
01:28:22
so to speak, praised as heroes
01:28:24
martyr and so on are actually there
01:28:26
very interesting story
01:28:27
is that we want our weight
01:28:30
the goal is somewhat disappointed in the fact that
01:28:33
comrade Hitler enos and Hitler began
01:28:35
flirt too openly with a big guy
01:28:38
capital Yes, they start it there in every possible way
01:28:41
look after the grains Tisana flicks They are the ones
01:28:45
it would essentially be calling things your own
01:28:47
names and will lead in the thirty-third to
01:28:49
authorities yes How to say genderburg I couldn’t
01:28:51
do not respond to a signed letter
01:28:53
two billion March just like that
01:28:56
that means he belonged to such a weight
01:29:00
The left factions within us were like this
01:29:03
Yes, who thought that we didn’t
01:29:05
We are truly a workers' organization
01:29:07
truly defenders of rights work hard and
01:29:09
he is slowly starting to join the party
01:29:11
activities to move away
01:29:12
Moreover, at this time he is a man
01:29:14
he's young, met a girl
01:29:16
The girl met him and they decided
01:29:19
rent an apartment together, here's a girl
01:29:22
her name was Erna Janicke and she was an ex
01:29:25
girl of easy virtue Well, the story
01:29:28
is silent only the behavior has worsened
01:29:30
or so to say something else, but he is her
01:29:32
fell in love with pure means Aryan love
01:29:35
They took it from a certain venerable widow
01:29:37
apartment and pretty quickly with it
01:29:39
got into a fight, no one knows who was there
01:29:41
more to blame for giving but
01:29:44
deceased husband living widow
01:29:47
was just an active member of this
01:29:49
Union of Red Front-Windowed Widow
01:29:51
complained to a comrade comrades
01:29:53
their fists itched and they came to this
01:29:56
the youngest bastard in their
01:29:58
presentation
01:30:00
clean the snout and suddenly one of them they
01:30:03
have already started cleaning the snout
01:30:06
planning to move on Apparently and
01:30:09
suddenly one of them pulls out revolvers
01:30:11
shoots him point blank
01:30:12
Are you crazy
01:30:15
interesting thing the person will be later
01:30:17
naturally recognized as his killer
01:30:19
sentenced to six years in prison and then
01:30:21
when the Nazis come to power they will all
01:30:23
I will kill the participants in this operation in prison
01:30:25
just like that, it turned out that this person
01:30:28
active member of the Red Union
01:30:32
he is a front-line soldier by party conviction
01:30:35
and by
01:30:37
organizational affiliation member
01:30:39
Communist Party A by profession
01:30:41
you have to live for something, he's a pimp and with
01:30:44
had some kind of relationship with a girl
01:30:48
professional type before and it seems
01:30:51
similar he had his own account for this
01:30:55
the host himself understands the weight
01:30:57
considered that he meant part of his work
01:31:01
took me away and seemed to show examples
01:31:05
for the rest to be disgraceful
01:31:06
because in his profession it is very
01:31:08
important point Yes you need to demonstrate
01:31:10
that this area is located
01:31:12
under guard, that's all naturally
01:31:16
Nazi times As you understand not
01:31:18
I especially understood
01:31:21
Clearly the grave is in a cemetery place
01:31:23
Hitler Yoginda pilgrimage
01:31:26
will be received at this very grave
01:31:28
the most advanced everything is still clear
01:31:30
more beautiful is another story
01:31:33
the person we have in common about
01:31:35
almost nothing is known
01:31:38
those who want to find it will find it, of course, but here it is
01:31:41
somehow you can hear his name even when speaking
01:31:44
is not particularly about Nazi Germany
01:31:46
there is a certain Hans Majkovsky for you
01:31:49
something says no that's nothing in
01:31:52
there's really no shame in this
01:31:54
almost us This is this episode on
01:31:56
on the side of the road this same Hans Majkovsky
01:31:58
absolutely the same with young nails
01:32:01
convinced means
01:32:04
supporter of the Nazi Party at one time
01:32:07
and private schools were kicked out because he
01:32:10
there are all sorts of anti-Semitic things, it means he tried
01:32:12
spend in life
01:32:14
practice uh resulting in twenty
01:32:18
sixth year when it still seemed at all
01:32:19
he won't notice anything, he becomes a Nazi
01:32:23
first standard bearer of the Berlin branch
01:32:26
exactly this is a stormtrooper stormtrooper
01:32:30
from Veterans of the movement means 29
01:32:33
he organizes his own
01:32:36
organization that joins sav-31
01:32:40
he is made commander of a large detachment
01:32:43
The so-called assault and what
01:32:47
not in the capital You guys are in this
01:32:49
the area where he worked
01:32:52
noble party I think these are every
01:32:54
it was charlotte for a week Well last night
01:32:58
been there
01:33:05
why are there so many Russians there, almost everyone there?
01:33:08
Russians
01:33:09
find non-Russians
01:33:12
I see, well, I let him down too
01:33:16
geography zoning of Berlin means
01:33:19
The fact is that on January 30, 33 years old, he
01:33:23
like-minded people had a great holiday
01:33:25
their leader February Adolf Hitler was
01:33:29
brought the oath as rake and
01:33:32
That's why there was a torch clink on the occasion
01:33:33
means a procession with protected torches on
01:33:37
which means this organization was
01:33:40
great masters and then he decided
01:33:42
take the initiative Although the scenario is
01:33:45
Not
01:33:46
provided and
01:33:50
when they were already leaving, here is his squad
01:33:53
left this very place in different marches
01:33:55
torches
01:33:58
violation of the agreed route
01:34:01
decided to go through this very
01:34:03
Charlottenburg I don’t know how it is now and
01:34:06
Tell then basically the population
01:34:09
of this Berlin district were
01:34:11
industrial workers a significant part
01:34:14
who were sympathetic
01:34:15
Communist Party of Germany Oh well
01:34:17
no no now definitely not All this now
01:34:22
a completely different continent I think it was
01:34:24
quite bourgeois bourgeois Yes
01:34:27
some parts
01:34:31
in fact, I can give you more
01:34:35
uh, a clear connection of him carried them through
01:34:40
waltz track And that's exactly how I am
01:34:44
I can tell from Strasse there was such an area where
01:34:46
so to say to people just recently
01:34:48
there was no need to interfere, so they decided
01:34:50
show we are the boss here now They
01:34:54
we entered this area with someone
01:34:57
it is no longer clear how to determine the sides
01:34:59
when the shots started ringing out
01:35:01
got stuck in a shootout and was killed
01:35:03
a policeman in uniform, including
01:35:07
killed in general there were few victims killed
01:35:10
and this very hero of ours naturally
01:35:13
they canonized him naturally, that means
01:35:16
the same Pioneers in the sense of these same
01:35:18
Hitler Youth members were received at his grave
01:35:21
and then after the war already in the 50s and 60s
01:35:25
as a result of some careful unspoken
01:35:28
investigation, as usual, began with
01:35:30
that journalists found a person
01:35:32
who saw something remembered later
01:35:35
the prosecutor's office got involved in this and so
01:35:36
then you know a wonderful story
01:35:38
looks like the shot that ended
01:35:41
glorious and short part of the life of this
01:35:44
the eagle itself was made by his Comrade
01:35:47
the party is completely targeted and not by chance
01:35:50
The fact is that our hero was one of
01:35:53
Stormtroopers had a lot of these
01:35:55
from such zealous ones, here are his fists
01:35:58
she was itching, he wanted the whole thing
01:36:00
I wanted to, but in these circles I was very
01:36:02
unpopular death of gebel steel
01:36:05
a traitor, but he's not real
01:36:08
revolutionary here he is among those who are ready
01:36:10
sell our labor movement with this
01:36:13
here's a plutocrat with fat money bags
01:36:16
cats Well, our hero is on some kind of
01:36:18
the crowd said okay, I'll do it myself
01:36:21
with these hands, just entrust me with
01:36:24
I'll kill this traitor and it looks like
01:36:27
Goebbels was told that you know death
01:36:29
there's a hot guy like this
01:36:32
Gebel is a person in general in his
01:36:34
profession is not the last. Yes, that’s part of it
01:36:37
eat the fish and don’t choke on the bone and
01:36:40
a whole herd of hare under him means in one gulp
01:36:43
he is a great specialist as a result
01:36:45
what do we get we get the body
01:36:49
suitable for canonization and we get
01:36:51
Peaceful sleep with a desk of a raccoon and Goebbels
01:36:53
who can now sleep at least in
01:36:57
half an eye and before even a full eye Yes,
01:37:00
These are the cases of canonization. Well,
01:37:03
Of course the story would not be complete
01:37:04
if you don't tell the case Chinese How
01:37:08
do you understand the Chinese case?
01:37:10
Especially
01:37:12
colorful I remember how when I entered
01:37:16
Institute Our course was the first in which
01:37:20
North Korean students studied
01:37:23
Yes, we were the first to encounter them. Well
01:37:25
there were a lot of funny things there
01:37:27
things in particular they are among us
01:37:30
order of its embassy
01:37:32
distributed Korea magazine today oh
01:37:35
Korea magazine I think they wrote
01:37:37
rave reports about what
01:37:39
a magazine of Soviet
01:37:42
students were literally snatched from them
01:37:44
when the beginning of the month approached there we were already
01:37:47
started tugging at them there in the park. But
01:37:49
when will these same magazines be available so
01:37:51
they probably wrote that it’s best
01:37:53
liked these magazines You know what
01:37:55
such innocence, here's a car
01:38:00
visited a poultry factory and
01:38:04
Cynicism grew right under him
01:38:08
you know how it is now Media is not being finalized
01:38:12
Russian if you read Russian
01:38:15
newspaper how she writes axes and she writes
01:38:18
directly what is real is what they write
01:38:21
Ask so and they write in the Russian newspaper
01:38:23
maybe the China Press Bureau is helping them
01:38:26
And then we are talking literally
01:38:30
They don’t know how to write correctly, I can
01:38:33
I understand Chinese comrades, so
01:38:35
By the way, Russia is a big newspaper
01:38:38
you see, we need it here
01:38:43
there you also need to look at what hieroglyph
01:38:46
this one is written because in these
01:38:48
hierographic languages
01:38:53
liberals like you and me will dig up
01:38:56
this won't work out well, comrade
01:38:59
Leucent was born in a poor peasant village
01:39:02
close to family means
01:39:07
during the Japanese Chinese war
01:39:10
parents who participated in the resistance
01:39:12
that means Leifen and six more of him died
01:39:15
take a sister left orphans he was
01:39:18
picked up by soldiers
01:39:20
the People's Liberation Army of China became
01:39:22
son of the regiment became a pioneer joined
01:39:26
Chinese Communist Youth League
01:39:28
And then he became famous for the fact that
01:39:32
I helped every second of my life
01:39:35
someone
01:39:38
here he is
01:39:40
after finishing work he stayed to help the workers
01:39:43
showed him to those who came to the next shift
01:39:46
fell asleep at work to lightly
01:39:49
rested again, that's what he was like
01:39:51
I went to Timurov and helped the elderly there
01:39:55
and so on In general Wherever
01:39:57
workers were needed there
01:40:00
remember how to operate a house-building
01:40:05
plant i
01:40:06
I was like this, here I am, well
01:40:11
then it means he ended up serving in the army
01:40:15
conscript service there is also natural
01:40:18
has proven itself
01:40:20
exemplary soldiers So he died in
01:40:23
as a result of an accident he served
01:40:25
in the automobile battalion Well, that's something
01:40:27
happened there, that means he died
01:40:31
after his death his personal
01:40:33
diary which became a bestseller in
01:40:35
China and compulsory reading in school
01:40:37
it was studied because all of it consisted
01:40:40
from words of gratitude and oaths of allegiance
01:40:43
the party mothers who raised him so
01:40:46
today's researchers beware
01:40:49
means he expresses doubts about
01:40:51
Did this man ever exist
01:40:53
and others say the person is probably
01:40:56
there was a name there probably was but
01:40:59
here is the biography, of course, composed And how I am
01:41:01
I read articles by a Russian
01:41:03
journalist to work for a long time
01:41:05
China Every time he talks about it
01:41:07
man spoke to the Chinese in
01:41:09
in a private, informal setting they
01:41:11
started laughing
01:41:13
no surprise about the same
01:41:15
at one time we had a reaction to
01:41:17
Comrade Brezhnev's trilogy Small Land
01:41:19
Revival and Virgin Lands because they gave us
01:41:22
we stuffed them, we handed them over
01:41:24
took notes to sit down, we started laughing
01:41:26
When did this topic arise in
01:41:29
unofficial game did you notice
01:41:33
attention How beautifully looped
01:41:35
composition so to speak Alexey
01:41:37
Valerievich how he started in 1984
01:41:41
a fictional biography and has already finished
01:41:44
1984 example I'm sure that in 1984 this is the same
01:41:49
it was just relevant, I want to tell you
01:41:51
that Recall the words of our Great without
01:41:55
the slightest attraction of the satirist Mikhail
01:41:57
Mikhailovich Zhvanetsky who spoke
01:41:58
that in Odessa a satirist doesn’t need anything
01:42:01
invent a window Open and write down what
01:42:05
sounds on the street
01:42:08
life Everything has already become a circle
01:42:12
looped
01:42:13
told a very important thing in response
01:42:17
on my terrible means terrible insert
01:42:20
terrible accusation, practically what are you
01:42:22
to the children, tell us better about
01:42:24
real cannibals which
01:42:26
they killed, they blew up, I don’t know, they cut there
01:42:28
they were stabbed then they were canonized and you
01:42:32
they said that with children it is much more scary and
01:42:34
this is exactly the important moment Ira and I
01:42:36
Soviet school, by and large, is not
01:42:38
caught I didn't catch at all But I
01:42:39
caught me completely on the edge
01:42:41
but these stories about
01:42:44
the pioneer heroes really worked
01:42:46
the children cried and believed
01:42:48
wanted to be like them I don't
01:42:51
I doubt that until a certain age
01:42:53
some children cried and some children
01:42:56
believed Well, actually a child is not difficult
01:42:59
so to speak, convince and return to it
01:43:03
condition but it seems to me that
01:43:06
you know I have it now
01:43:08
I remember one episode when
01:43:11
a girl of college age
01:43:15
means to some of our get-togethers
01:43:20
I don’t remember why this conversation suddenly
01:43:22
I came in but she was so confident
01:43:26
Maria Spiridonova from our yesterday
01:43:29
inclusion She said If only I was there
01:43:32
lived at the end of the 19th century, I would have been
01:43:36
Complacent
01:43:38
well, you know, the people also volunteer
01:43:41
back and forth really at that time they
01:43:43
were very flavored, that's just it
01:43:47
this is very good quality
01:43:50
fiery revolutionaries series where
01:43:53
worked really big
01:43:55
writers there Yuri Trifonov wrote there
01:43:58
Tendrikov wrote there wrote Olesha wrote
01:44:02
talented people should write there therefore
01:44:04
the result was talented, not stilted things
01:44:06
and therefore, in general, both the Decembrists and
01:44:11
Narodnaya Volya and even some
01:44:14
in fragments the Bolsheviks at that time could
01:44:17
Yes, there is a certain time to be models
01:44:20
infection but the pioneer heroes no you know
01:44:23
I think it's all very fast
01:44:25
went into such a cynical childish
01:44:27
folklore is not by chance the stories of the Pioneers
01:44:31
heroes are mostly ridiculed here in
01:44:33
these childish sadistic stitches of the boy
01:44:36
the village found a machine gun Yes, remember
01:44:39
who had fantastic
01:44:41
spread we all knew them
01:44:42
kilometers I can show this, but
01:44:45
and of course this is a reaction to these tumors
01:44:47
Well let's ask our audience to
01:44:50
in the comments then write what I
01:44:52
I can imagine how many people will watch
01:44:54
it will remind me of my childhood since I do this
01:44:57
I understand in the next few minutes
01:44:58
there will be Sasha Arkhipova who
01:45:01
larger than a specialist in this whole
01:45:04
social anthropology is very successful
01:45:06
I think the title is for these stories
01:45:09
anthropology is larger
01:45:12
We simply can’t find a specialist. So I
01:45:13
I will listen with great interest
01:45:16
By the way, let's talk about denunciations first
01:45:20
queue
01:45:25
something on this topic in 2 weeks
01:45:29
do
01:45:31
life material
01:45:39
so that there are no associations
01:45:43
Let's all forget all this and only then can
01:45:46
maybe we'll get to this topic

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