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important topics and probably we will also talk about the00:00:07
geopolitical track Mykhailo Podolyak00:00:09
adviser to the head of the office of the President of00:00:10
Ukraine with us Marathon p Mykhailo we00:00:12
welcome you Well, I didn't want to00:00:14
start with geopolitics after all because we have00:00:16
free00:00:17
I would like to after all, let's start with People's00:00:20
Deputy of Ukraine Nestor Shufrych, who00:00:22
was charged with suspicion today and is currently being00:00:24
remanded in custody, Mr. Mykhailo, was it00:00:26
a surprise for you? How do you00:00:29
interpret this event, number one in terms of00:00:31
ratings in discussions? It00:00:34
seems to me that this is not the number one question of the00:00:37
reading because the political system is00:00:39
old, the political system is dying absolutely00:00:41
concretely, we can already see it and00:00:44
some new political system will be built,00:00:45
there will be new principles of political life in00:00:48
Ukraine and so on, this is very important,00:00:49
of course, I will not comment on everything00:00:52
related to the work of law enforcement agencies,00:00:53
there is suspicion and so on and so on similar00:00:55
But it seems to me that this is a symbolic step00:00:58
towards the fact that Ukraine looks00:01:00
different after all and that you and I do not tolerate these00:01:04
or other manifestations Let's say the position when00:01:07
there are two countries and you focus on two00:01:10
countries at once and so on.00:01:13
indeed, everything we00:01:15
see today does not only concern Mr.00:01:18
Shufrich, it also concerns other00:01:21
traditional political figures that the old political00:01:23
system will absolutely be destroyed.00:01:33
relations with00:01:35
Israel, because now in Uman more than00:01:37
22,000 pilgrims, in particular, prayed for00:01:41
peace today, we understand and see how adequately and00:01:44
quickly Israel finally began to understand the00:01:46
threat posed by Russia and00:01:50
its cooperation with these other00:01:51
criminal-terrorist regimes, and we00:01:54
can already see from today there was news00:01:55
that the Ukrainian, Israeli and00:01:57
American leaders will meet in00:01:59
Shatsk, and please, has00:02:01
our relations with Israel begun to change, has he00:02:05
understood that terrorist00:02:08
leaders still pose a threat to them00:02:09
as well?00:02:14
other risks can be spoken00:02:16
directly by the representative of the country00:02:18
you are talking about, well, that is, Nastya has to, in00:02:20
this case, it is Israel, he can say for00:02:21
sure whether he understands all the risks00:02:23
generated by the Russian Federation, which has not yet00:02:25
lost the war, which donates, well, does it00:02:28
sponsor these or other terrorist00:02:29
groups, or those or other non-democratic00:02:32
regimes, including in the Middle East,00:02:34
but with regard to our relations, we definitely00:02:37
see the identification of these relations, we00:02:39
see a great understanding between the00:02:42
heads of the country, well, that is, we also expect00:02:45
meetings at the level of the heads of countries, we00:02:48
absolutely see, well, this is wild, did you see the00:02:51
meeting the day before with the president with00:02:54
the representatives of the Ravins with the00:02:55
representatives of the Jewish communities, and this00:02:58
quite clearly records what Nazism is, in00:03:01
which country there is Nazism, and so on.00:03:12
so on, I see00:03:15
that it begins to have certain00:03:18
logistical solutions, and so on, you00:03:20
know, you are raising a more truly00:03:22
global question, you are raising the question of00:03:24
whether countries are00:03:27
really ready to seriously understand the risks00:03:31
generated by the Russian Federation. Both today00:03:33
and postponed and even yesterday, well, that is, do00:03:37
they understand or not are they still00:03:41
beginning to understand that the Russian00:03:43
Federation is absolutely no longer a country00:03:45
that adds something to humanity as such, it is a00:03:48
country that will constantly provoke00:03:50
international relations, the international right to00:03:52
break the global world order in general,00:03:55
and support there indirectly or directly, or through00:03:58
informational or00:04:00
diplomatic support or through00:04:02
international institutions Russia's support00:04:03
will only prolong this period of00:04:06
instability and chaos and increase the00:04:08
possibility of one or another phenomenon00:04:11
in other regions because there is no, let's look,00:04:14
let's fundamentally lose the war to Russia.00:04:24
key e-e points00:04:28
there, let's say, instability in the city of00:04:30
regions, including in the Middle East. Is00:04:32
it bad or is it good during this time00:04:35
in the same region it is possible to build00:04:38
other relations with neighboring countries, one by00:04:42
one, it is possible to build other00:04:44
systems of security relations and so on and so on. It00:04:47
seems to me that00:04:49
investing in the victory of Ukraine today means00:04:51
investing in the stability of one's00:04:54
regions no more but no less.00:05:02
North Korea, it was not for nothing00:05:05
that they met, probably at the cosmodrome, the00:05:08
fact itself says something about this, should00:05:10
we expect trouble from Korea or00:05:14
should we wait? Do you think it was possible to reach an agreement? to00:05:21
understand00:05:23
about the creation of this block of three countries,00:05:26
Russia, Korea, China, because on the one hand,00:05:29
everyone says that this history is already00:05:31
beginning to develop into such an aggressive00:05:33
block that can oppose the Western00:05:35
world, on the other hand, why did the diplomats of China00:05:37
say that no, only we with Korea00:05:39
are developing their own relations, and Russia is there, let00:05:41
it stand still.00:05:43
Well, let's00:05:45
start with the People's00:05:47
Republic of China, it is a much more global00:05:50
player than Russia, and that's why China definitely00:05:53
looks at everything differently, but all these00:05:55
reports about there are some three-wall00:05:58
alliances. Yes, and so on, this00:06:01
says more about this is the Russian Federation, well,00:06:03
that is, it is propagandistic about it, it00:06:04
says that it seems that they00:06:06
have agreed on something with someone, etc., but we do00:06:08
not trust you and Russia because all the00:06:10
information is distorted by the00:06:12
Russian Federation. This is the first component00:06:14
of what we can expect from00:06:16
North Korea Well, you understand. From00:06:18
this type of country, you can only expect00:06:20
negative things as such, and Korea really supplies a00:06:23
number of weapons there for the Russian Federation.00:06:29
and00:06:33
mortars, respectively, this reactivity, in addition00:06:36
to the system of geography, is00:06:39
similar to that, will it have a significant impact on the00:06:41
battlefield, yes, it does because the00:06:43
resource limitations of Russia were more00:06:45
sensitive, well, more tangible, if there was not,00:06:48
for example, Iran or North00:06:51
Korea early, I mean with drones or00:06:53
North Korea, but in the meantime, this will00:06:56
not significantly help Russia, which in principle is00:06:59
gradually coming to its fatal end00:07:01
regarding the meeting itself, well, certainly for Tim,00:07:05
this meeting was important because,00:07:06
look, he behaved like a master, if00:07:09
one master has that Putin, who00:07:11
yesterday was considered a great global00:07:14
player, I emphasize once again today, Putin00:07:16
is not a player at all, he is a man who has already00:07:19
lost almost everything, but unfortunately,00:07:21
he will take an even greater price until the00:07:24
end of the world. There will be no war and so00:07:27
on, but in the meantime, he is something there begs from00:07:29
Kim Chenna for Kim Jong-un will00:07:31
sell it as an00:07:32
achievement in the domestic market in the00:07:34
domestic market where there is no00:07:36
competition there is no information it00:07:38
will look quite pompous00:07:40
besides how does he get additional00:07:42
food additional opportunities for00:07:44
repair additional opportunities for00:07:46
construction there is expensive well the country00:07:48
North Korea is known for being00:07:50
very effective internally and so00:07:52
on. Well, we will definitely not00:07:54
interfere there, let them continue00:07:55
to look like that, but in the meantime, what will it00:07:58
gain for the global community? It00:08:01
seems to me that this is more important. not a00:08:06
single country was under sanctions00:08:09
that were00:08:10
approved by the UN, it is not just that there are00:08:14
sectoral sanctions that a number of00:08:17
countries have united and adopted in00:08:18
relation to Russia, there to the energy00:08:20
complex of Russia or to some other00:08:22
branches of the Russian Federation, here it was00:08:24
accordingly that any what military00:08:26
technical cooperation with North00:08:29
Korea will have consequences, and now we00:08:33
want to see these consequences because00:08:35
Russia openly violates00:08:38
these sanctions today and openly receives military00:08:41
aid from Korea, not only is it an00:08:43
aggressor country, but it is already legal00:08:45
nonsense to receive aid for aggression00:08:48
and so on, but in my opinion, this00:08:52
meeting between Kim Jong-un and us, Putin, will give00:08:54
a little liveliness to the negotiations between our00:08:57
president and the heads of other states00:09:00
regarding the provision of additional tools for00:09:03
waging war, first of all, long-range00:09:04
missiles, Mr. Mykhailo, if we are already in that00:09:07
region and geographically, then00:09:10
we want remember another meeting It00:09:12
took place between the envoy of the Pope00:09:14
Cardinal Matteo Zubbi with00:09:17
[music]00:09:18
Licheius this is the Chinese Minister of00:09:21
Foreign Affairs And here I really want00:09:23
to ask I was interested in such a phrase in the00:09:26
statement of the Vatican about what the meeting00:09:28
means the Italian Cardinal raised the00:09:30
issue of food security of00:09:32
grain exports from Ukraine00:09:33
the meeting took place in an open and cordial00:09:36
atmosphere, Mr. Mykhailo. Please tell me00:09:38
something is happening in an open atmosphere00:09:41
between the Vatican and, for example, the leadership of00:09:44
Ukraine,00:09:48
today, of course, a number of countries or a number of00:09:51
institutions are looking for certain solutions, because I mean00:09:55
solutions that relate to the00:09:57
war in Ukraine, because the war in In Ukraine,00:10:00
it’s not just a00:10:02
small territorial war, and so on, it imposes an00:10:04
influence on many other global00:10:06
processes, including regarding security as00:10:09
such and unconditional.00:10:17
Regarding Ukraine, Ukraine00:10:19
always follows the rules, including00:10:22
direct communication, including with the00:10:24
Vatican, in order to explain the principles on which00:10:27
this war is being waged by Russia, this is the first thing, the most00:10:29
important thing is that any countries or00:10:32
any representatives of other00:10:34
international organizations, including me, are00:10:35
now wrong in general, about, for00:10:37
example, the UN, so that they understand why with00:10:40
Russia, it’s just like that. It’s00:10:42
impossible for us to talk about something politically,00:10:44
because you, what kind of wars is Russia fighting? It’s necessary00:10:46
that other countries that do00:10:48
not directly take part00:10:51
in the war understand the00:10:52
nature of the war. the first, the second component00:10:55
regarding the position of Ukraine, it is very important that00:10:57
everyone gradually understands the00:11:00
logic of the Peace formula as such, why it is possible to00:11:02
really reach peace only through this00:11:05
formula, through the appropriate withdrawal of00:11:07
Russian troops, this is as a basic condition, the00:11:10
third component, communications are definitely needed,00:11:13
including with00:11:14
representatives of the Vatican in Ukraine00:11:16
why isn't it Putin who is able to reach an agreement00:11:18
and not Ukraine or someone else and so00:11:21
on and so on? Well, and fourthly,00:11:23
definitely explain that mediation00:11:25
functions are possible in any case, but00:11:27
only when00:11:30
the concept that the war must end00:11:32
fairly is supported, what is00:11:34
fair, it is not will mean that the war00:11:36
can end as it was in the 14th year,00:11:39
territory in exchange or as it was there in00:11:42
Georgia, territories in exchange for peace, because00:11:44
territory in exchange for peace is a transition00:11:47
to another stage of expansion as such, this is00:11:50
all definitely necessary to explain to all00:11:53
countries that certain meetings must be held,00:11:55
it is very important,00:11:57
they mentioned the United Nations organization several times00:11:59
and probably already started to00:12:01
answer this question But00:12:02
nevertheless, Gena, the UN Assembly, what do we expect, what are the00:12:05
minimum and maximum tasks00:12:07
we set for ourselves, taking into account Let's say yes, no about the00:12:10
Ukrainian position of this organization about the fact that it is00:12:12
difficult to explain what the00:12:15
organization called radbes has turned into00:12:37
representatives of all countries will be gathered at the platform,00:12:38
it will be broadcast to these countries, a00:12:40
huge amount of media component,00:12:43
then definitely the president of Ukraine, who00:12:45
absolutely clearly understands how to00:12:48
place accents in this war, will have a chance to once again00:12:51
raise the topic of the war in full,00:12:54
to tell everything that is happening on the00:12:57
front line and everything that is happening is inflicted on the00:13:00
civilian population of the Russian Federation00:13:02
And that this war has been going on for 19 months and that00:13:05
Ukraine does not want and will not surrender there00:13:07
and so on And that it will not fulfill00:13:08
the wishes,00:13:10
this can be done on a very large scale right on the00:13:13
site of the General Assembly Of course in the00:13:15
Radbez it will be possible in more to a narrow circle00:13:18
to talk about the instruments of00:13:21
war with Russia, to show once again that00:13:23
this is not a country in such a form that it00:13:26
is possible to agree on something with it, because00:13:28
they deliberately came to kill, not just to take00:13:30
something there or00:13:32
to talk about something there. No, they came deliberately to00:13:35
destroy Ukrainian statehood and killed the00:13:37
maximum number of people in order to00:13:39
scare us and you so that we really00:13:41
kneel down before the00:13:43
Russian Federation, these are two powerful00:13:46
platforms specifically for the promotion of the Ukrainian00:13:48
position to use It is absolutely00:13:50
necessary and so on regarding the legal00:13:53
components, how are you doing,00:13:55
let's look at the resolutions for voting and00:13:57
so on because Well, it seems to me that00:14:00
after 19 months of war the accents can already be clearly00:14:02
set I understand that there at the00:14:04
beginning of the war I understand before the war before the00:14:06
full-scale invasion of the Russian00:14:08
Federation why I understand this because Russia00:14:10
was a really powerful political player00:14:13
emphasizes That's right was artificially created since00:14:16
2007-2008, Russia invested a lot00:14:19
in the international institution, a lot00:14:22
in the diplomatic network, in the grant00:14:24
program to support certain00:14:26
communities in other countries, and so on,00:14:28
today it is all collapsing. Unfortunately, I00:14:32
would like to. Unfortunately, I say that it is slowly00:14:34
collapsing including00:14:36
this lobby, the pro-Russian place of00:14:39
international institutions is slowly collapsing, it was desirable that00:14:41
it be done much faster, but00:14:44
let's see. It seems to me that00:14:45
using the Maidan00:14:47
and the emotions of the Ukrainian position, where they will be00:14:49
collected through00:14:51
more than 190 countries, they all emphasize, well, that's great. Well, and we00:14:56
expect that the President will return with00:14:57
atakams, right,00:15:00
this is a more difficult task, yes,00:15:03
at the same time, it is a bilateral victory, and on the00:15:06
other hand, it is more difficult because the still00:15:08
conservative thinking probably prevents00:15:10
our partners from realizing that there are no00:15:13
other options here except to transfer a00:15:16
long-range missile to Ukraine. Why Because00:15:18
it equalizes parity, equalizes our with00:15:22
Russia, look at the capabilities, Russia00:15:24
uses a supersonic cruise missile for mobile,00:15:26
it uses a supersonic cruise missile00:15:29
almost every night, well, that is, it00:15:31
attacks the entire territory of Ukraine, we should at least00:15:34
have a large number of long-range00:15:37
missiles in order to destroy the00:15:38
occupation capacity, well, it00:15:40
means the warehouse infrastructure, the00:15:42
transport infrastructure, the reserves that00:15:44
it slips through the same peninsula,00:15:47
missiles are needed for this, we will00:15:49
talk about it appropriately. I think00:15:51
we have hope that, after all, the00:15:53
appropriate decisions will be made, because the00:15:55
logic of war does not give any option not to00:15:59
make a decision both on the attack and on the Tau00:16:02
and on the aviation component, you see00:16:05
everything is taken because And why are the00:16:07
corresponding decisions taken because,00:16:09
first of all, Russia behaves like this00:16:10
as brutally as possible, it shows that it is not capable00:16:14
of negotiating because of the emphasis, and on the00:16:16
other hand, it still has offensive operations that00:16:19
look very and very effective, if you have00:16:22
already mentioned the word Taurus German But then00:16:25
I would like to you commented on the statement of00:16:28
Major General Christian00:16:30
Freudmann Freuding, who said that the00:16:34
military operations in Ukraine can00:16:35
continue for another 9 years and here. This statement00:16:39
can be interpreted as it is interpreted by00:16:41
analysts who say that it is necessary to say00:16:44
that we are ready to00:16:46
fight for a long time.00:16:49
the enemy and the enemy is00:16:52
starting this information war, but it00:16:55
is desirable to explain to our people what is behind00:16:58
such statements, and it is desirable that you do it.00:17:00
But about 9 years and about a00:17:03
long-term war, although we must remind00:17:05
our viewers that the President says00:17:07
that the war is dragging on and about00:17:11
they say it More and more often And00:17:13
absolutely frankly,00:17:15
give a short answer and a more00:17:18
detailed short very simple if you00:17:21
are 10,000 there at night thousands00:17:24
or thousands of kilometers from the front line00:17:26
then Of course the war can go to you 1000:17:28
and 20 and 100 years if you00:17:30
don't directly pay with your life for this war and so00:17:34
on, that's why you can say and make any00:17:36
predictions, and here I'm moving on to a more00:17:38
comprehensive answer, the00:17:41
pace of Ukraine's progress with regard to de-occupation00:17:44
depends on two factors. The first00:17:47
is the psychological readiness of00:17:49
society to move forward. and go00:17:52
take back our territories, we have a00:17:55
completely00:17:56
synchronized society, it clearly00:17:58
understands 80% clearly00:18:01
understand that this war is at least 80%, because there are00:18:03
different studies, at least 80% clearly00:18:07
understand that the war can end00:18:08
only with the total de-occupation of the entire00:18:11
territory of Ukraine, that is, the first key00:18:14
component is readiness countries to go and00:18:16
win back their territory, among other things, there is00:18:19
such a readiness if we saw in00:18:21
other countries, well, I mean00:18:24
research in other countries. Well, we00:18:26
had to see who else would be at00:18:28
such a level as Ukraine regarding the protection of00:18:30
its territory, the return of this territory,00:18:32
but there is another the component is very important, and00:18:35
instead of talking about 9 years, it00:18:37
was necessary to discuss a significant increase in the00:18:40
volume of relevant instruments and a00:18:44
significant acceleration of delivery, that is,00:18:46
if we agreed on something, for example,00:18:49
in the fall of 2022, then to receive it, for00:18:54
example, in the spring of 2023, this would mean00:18:58
that Russia will invest during this time00:19:00
a lot of money for engineering structures,00:19:02
if today we will receive weapons with00:19:05
such stamps as we will receive, then00:19:07
definitely it can go for 2 years because00:19:09
here I am moving to the Russian Federation,00:19:11
at this time it is working with North Korea,00:19:14
in the morning it is building a Valabuzi in Tatarstan, there is a00:19:18
new drone factory there, it00:19:20
She invests mine money. She is looking for star workers00:19:23
who will fill the third echelon with00:19:25
concrete and so on, so Russia wants to00:19:27
periodically receive a reduction in the00:19:29
intensity of hostilities, receive00:19:32
operational-tactical pauses in order to00:19:33
invest in defense lines, because this00:19:36
territory of Russia is not needed for the development00:19:39
of us you and I understand it as00:19:42
something military, a large military00:19:44
base there, and so on, so Russia00:19:47
will invest everything in it, and certainly00:19:49
if we do not receive exclusively within the00:19:51
framework of the agreements, it is00:19:53
very strict day by day to receive in the00:19:58
necessary quantities,00:19:59
including long-range missile, it is certainly00:20:02
possible to predict any term of00:20:03
the war, and in addition, the second component, which00:20:07
our partners must understand, the third,00:20:09
or rather, is very important, if Russia does not00:20:14
have several tactical defeats and00:20:16
does not flee from the territory of Ukraine, then there00:20:19
will be no00:20:22
political regime in Russia.00:20:23
preserved, they will almost00:20:25
completely invest in military programs,00:20:28
they will accumulate revanchist00:20:31
sentiments, they will accumulate00:20:33
emotions of hatred towards us, and they will00:20:36
increase the pressure there with terrorist or00:20:39
political or informational factors00:20:41
on Ukraine, not only on Ukraine and00:20:44
definitely It will be a long war, as the00:20:47
president says He clearly00:20:49
states to Ukraine, provide as many weapons as we00:20:52
need in order to speed up the offensive,00:20:55
that for this we need three elements, the00:20:57
key ones today, the first is00:20:59
anti-missile defense systems in order00:21:01
to close the sky and deprive Russia of00:21:04
the only practical resource of influence on00:21:06
the situation, which is an attack by rockets on the civilian00:21:09
population the second component is the aviation00:21:11
component. In order to deprive Russia of the only00:21:14
advantage on the front line, this is tactical00:21:17
aviation that hangs over our guys00:21:19
who are going forward. Well, you can00:21:23
put frontal air defense there, you can increase drones and00:21:26
so on. When I talk about the aviation00:21:27
component, the third component is a00:21:29
long-range missile in a certain amount,00:21:31
because it will allow the destruction of00:21:33
Russia's reserve resources, including00:21:35
operational-tactical warehouses,00:21:37
logistics centers throughout the occupied00:21:39
territory, and this significantly reduces there by 30%,00:21:42
40% the combat capability and the ability to00:21:45
rotate the Russian00:21:48
occupation group in Mykhailolo,00:21:50
I want to ask while I have time one more such00:21:52
topic is not pleasant enough. I would call it00:21:54
a grain of discord that we are starting with00:21:56
Poland, we see that the Prime Minister of00:21:59
Poland Marovecki declared that Poland will not00:22:01
give up the embargo import of00:22:02
Ukrainian grain even if it is00:22:04
canceled by the European Union, instead it is already our00:22:06
prime the Prime Minister stated that Ukraine00:22:08
will file a lawsuit against Poland in the arbitration of the00:22:10
World Trade Organization, we understand00:22:12
that the topic is extremely sensitive for both00:22:14
countries, this is a transition to the legal sphere, which00:22:16
indicates that an agreement cannot be00:22:18
reached. it is00:22:24
very important to understand the first point00:22:26
number one. Poland is the closest00:22:30
partner and ally of Ukraine today. Poland00:22:33
is our Let's put it this way,00:22:36
logistical possibilities are in the absolute majority, that is,00:22:39
everything goes through Poland and Poland has absolutely00:22:41
consciously chosen this role for itself. That is,00:22:43
it is the most positive allied role00:22:46
for us, we have it is appreciated and00:22:48
we definitely appreciate it regarding the second component regarding the00:22:51
protection of national economic00:22:53
spaces Poland has the right to protect its00:22:56
National Economic Space we00:22:58
have the right definitely00:23:00
having a problem with the Black Sea area00:23:02
where Russia is attacking grain caravans we00:23:05
have the right to look for possible access to00:23:08
global markets to receive additional00:23:10
income to the budget, including through00:23:13
land corridors, and this issue is00:23:16
a dialogue, i.e. Look at this, the norm of00:23:19
flax is forgiven and the00:23:20
national one is meant for00:23:21
farmers, in this case, in this00:23:23
case, the space of agricultural00:23:25
products, we have the right to think about00:23:27
how we can use the land to00:23:30
sell and increase the volume of our00:23:32
grain For example, if we are talking about00:23:34
grain, the volume of grain sold on00:23:37
foreign markets. Therefore, this issue of00:23:39
dialogue formats should be00:23:42
treated calmly, because if we00:23:44
start talking about it, we should always00:23:46
return to point #1, and we and Poland are00:23:49
absolute allies with great00:23:51
sympathy for each other00:23:53
we understand the internal problems,00:23:55
we understand the political problems, but we00:23:58
have to win in the Russian Federation.00:24:00
Poland is a very, very important ally for us.00:24:02
Therefore, we must once again emphasize00:24:04
talking, talking, and talking again.00:24:12
our other ally and neighbor,00:24:14
Turkey, which became active and in a not00:24:16
entirely pleasant way for us,00:24:18
20 managers talked about the fact that it is00:24:20
time to lift the sanctions against Russia and are now criticizing the00:24:22
European Union's intention to introduce new00:24:24
sanctions.00:24:27
it00:24:29
looks like this,00:24:31
it doesn't look like this. Turkey, again,00:24:33
today has much00:24:36
more00:24:38
wagons than Russia on the global market, but00:24:41
Turkey has certain economic problems,00:24:43
I want to solve these problems, so she is00:24:46
definitely talking about increasing the00:24:48
volume of goods00:24:50
between Russia and Turkey. That is, there and the00:24:52
gas hub and remove certain restrictions for00:24:56
this or that product, and so on.00:24:58
Turkey is leaving exclusively from its00:25:01
positions and this is normal, again,00:25:03
normal practice and using, again,00:25:05
much greater subjectivity than the00:25:07
Russian Federation has today, this is once00:25:10
again, see, this is normal practice,00:25:12
behavior, this does not mean that Turkey00:25:13
supports Russia, it definitely does not mean that it does00:25:16
not mean that Turkey, on the contrary,00:25:18
Turkey constantly declares that it does not00:25:20
recognize the seizure of Crimea in the 14th year, it00:25:23
says It does not recognize the right of Russia00:25:25
to attack Ukraine, it recognizes the00:25:28
territorial integrity and sovereignty00:25:29
of Ukraine, it insists for Russia00:25:32
to return the territorial integrity and00:25:34
sovereignty of Ukraine and so on and00:25:36
so on. Turkey helps Ukraine a lot00:25:38
from the point of view of logistics, you00:25:40
see, she was the guarantor of the grain00:25:42
corridors. 18 million tons of grain were exported.00:25:44
Turkey helps in other sectors,00:25:46
I will not talk about them. There are00:25:48
more ministries of defense and so on and so00:25:50
on, but Turkey00:25:52
is emphasized once again. Unfortunately for you and00:25:55
me, the world is unfortunately not Ukrainian-centric. Many00:25:58
countries want to have and have their own00:26:00
national interests, and they protect these interests.00:26:02
They have the right to00:26:04
behave as they do. Our task is to with them00:26:07
to talk, to explain, to talk about the fact that there are00:26:09
certain risks if they00:26:12
advance in one or another direction,00:26:14
where is Russia, I am now talking exclusively about00:26:16
Russia and so on, because Russia is not a00:26:19
partner with whom you can agree on something00:26:21
long-term, Russia is00:26:23
practical A single country Well, I do not consider00:26:25
countries like North Korea because they00:26:27
have nothing to do with international law at all.00:26:28
But Russia does not fulfill the00:26:31
Busoranda Pact, well, that is, the treaty that00:26:34
should be fulfilled, Russia always00:26:36
violates it, and therefore having strategic00:26:38
relations with Russia is extremely difficult to00:26:40
see Yes, that is, you will not have the00:26:43
profits of everything. That is why you need to be careful00:26:45
with Russia, but once again I emphasize00:26:47
here that it is very important to understand that Mr.00:26:48
Reldovan Today is much more a00:26:50
subject than a subject, Putin, well,00:26:53
the subject Putin sounds interesting, that is,00:26:56
it is clear, as always, that Turkey supports00:26:57
Turkey in the first place.Description:
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