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00:00:03
Is Rock'n'roll dead?
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Brain Christianity..
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Three bags a day? Three bags a day?
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I don't like f*****s.
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A pain in the ass.
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This is me, Konstantin Kinchev.
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Konstantin, we would like to talk to you about what's going on with rock'n'roll in Russia..
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I feel like this is the perfect location to do it.
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Can you tell us where are we now?
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You're at my home.
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Okay.
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This is my place.
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I live here.
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[160 kilometers to Saint Petersburg 170 to Velikiy Novgorod 200 to Pskov]
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I moved here because I love this place more than the city.
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I would have stayed in the city if I liked it more.
00:00:43
Weren't you afraid of becoming an old man here?
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I am an old retired man.
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I only go touring and then I come back here.
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I have a small home studio here.
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How does it feel to be an aging rockstar?
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I had the same life in the city. Rocknroll is not a job.
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It's hard for me to understand what retiring means.
00:01:19
Retirement is often associated with living your best life doing what you enjoy.
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I've been doing this for 35 years already. Since I joined Alisa.
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I've become retired in a broad sense.
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I've been away from society for al my life.
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Let's clarify this..Is rocknroll dead?
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I can't speak for everyone. Our band is still alive because of our supporters.
00:02:06
Thank you, guys!
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What about the rest of the bands?
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I feel like rocknroll is no longer significant for the society.
00:02:17
Young people treat it as a gadget or even worse.
00:02:23
As a gadget?
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They can't live without their gadgets. My folks couldn't live without rocknroll.
00:02:35
Let's go back in time. I would like to understand how you became a rebel.
00:02:42
Let's talk about the times when you were different.
00:02:45
From the very beginning..Is it true that you had your first tattoo in the fourth year of school?
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Yes, I had this K letter. Now it looks like a point.
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I was around eleven years old when I had it.
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How did you get it?
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This was at the Russian language class. Or maybe reading or calligraphy..I don't remember.
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Calligraphy..
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Yes, we studied calligraphy back then.
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We would have it in the primary school. Whatever.
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So I did this with a fountain pen.
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You did this yourself..
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Sorry, I did this with a pin.
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I took the ink from the fountain pen and poked myself with the pin.
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I did this at the class.
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Was this your idea or did you see it somewhere?
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There was a movie called Serezha..And this boy did the same.
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My favorite movie was the Republic of Shkid..
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I wanted to be like Mamochka.
00:03:53
The first rock band that you heard was Black Sabbath, wasn't it?
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It was.
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Where did you hear their music?
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We had a radio in our summer camp.
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And then I heard the cough. This was the Master of Reality.
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Their third record.
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The guy from the radio room would play some music instead of the horn sounds.
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This was a great camp. I loved it.
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I would come there for all three shifts.
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When I heard the song I asked them what it was. They told me it was Black Sabbath.
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I fell in love with the band.
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They released Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and a friend of mine got this cover. A devil hanging above the bed with 666.
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Hanging around a dying man.
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This was so cool. This is my favorite record.
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Still. Black Sabbath..
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I loved mystery. I loved everything otherworldly.
00:05:14
I was a small man. I loved music.
00:05:20
Ozzie would hypnotize me with his unique and nasty vocals.
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I'm still fascinated by him.
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Ozzie Osbourne said he would bequeath his body to science because he's one of a kind.
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He managed to survive forty years of alcohol abuse.
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I've read his book.
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Do you think your body is similar to Ozzie's?
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I'm a religious person and I would be buried in the ground.
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I don't think his body is one of a kind.
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He quit drinking when he was forty. I quit at 35.
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Ozzie didn't do heroin. He only drank alcohol and did cocaine.
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This is called light abuse.
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I was doing heroin for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
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Breakfast, lunch, and dinner?
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Yes. Three bags a day?
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Yes.
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Sometimes I did it.
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Three bags a day?
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On my worst days, yes.
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Keith Richards is another person who survived this.
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Keith has been doing some real hard stuff.
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Ozzie didn't do heroin.
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[Don't do drugs, do sports:]
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I suspect that some of you wished to beat my ass at least once.
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I'm going to show you what to do when someone decides to kick your ass.
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[Ayub Magomadov BJJ black belt]
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Grab me here and be aggressive.
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This is what I do in the streets when I see a bearded guy called Ayub.
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People keep doing this to me.
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Four fingers inside. Sharp side of my hand facing the opponent.
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Another hand goes above. Four fingers again. Bring him closer and rotate the wrist.
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This is a choke.
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Yury just felt it.
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Right here. Pushed me with his elbow.
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They grab you. Grab their hand. Rotate the joint and pull.
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What did you do?
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And Yury is ready to propose.
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Left hand goes over your hand. And then I rotate your wrist.
00:08:05
A BJJ and Judo gym is a great bonus that you would get if you buy a flat in 2119 residential complex.
00:08:16
It is located in the South-East of Moscow.
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There's a lot of news since our last episode here.
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They're building a new house where all the flats will be sold with finishing and the kitchen furniture.
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This is a showroom where everyone can take a look at the future flat.
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All the finishing is done. This is a great choice for several reasons.
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I can move in the day you buy the flat.
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It would cost you much more to perform all the finishing yourself.
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The developer is buying the materials for the whole house.
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This is why the price for them is much cheaper.
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They're also doing well outside.
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Boulevard is already constructed and many trees are being planted here.
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If I was buying my first flat today the choice would be much easier for me.
00:09:09
You can buy a flat 63 square meters big with the finishing and kitchen furniture for 10.6 million roubles in the next month.
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If you don't need finishing the price would be 9.6 million.
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Find all the details in the description. If you're looking for a flat in Moscow, click at the link.
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This is a mirror because we're in the showroom. In your flat this would be a window. Can you imagine having a window in your bathroom?
00:09:50
[Back to rock-n-roll]
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You mentioned this topic..Our show stands against drug abuse.
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We've studied drug abuse of the nineties but we've never talked about drugs in the Soviet Union.
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Poppy grows everywhere.
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Look. You were doing three bags a day in the Soviet Union, weren't you?
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I was. In the eighties.
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Eighties and nineties. I quit in 1995.
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We would find poppy and cut it.
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Why did you want to do it?
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I was expanding my conscience.
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I started with weed..
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There was a guy from Qurghonteppa in our backyard..
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From the Middle East.
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[Qurghonteppa is a city in South-East of Tajikistan, 100 kilometers away from Dushanbe]
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He would bring poppy from Tajikistan. He would store it at my home.
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He was smarter than me.
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He wouldn't get caught.
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You would be sent to prison.
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So after smoking weed you started doing heavy drugs.
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We didn't know about drug addiction when we were smoking weed. There was no addiction in the Soviet Union.
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This was 1974.
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You were smoking weed in the seventies..
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I was. I finished school in 1976.
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Oh, shit.
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I thought..
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We're coming back to Ozzie..This is going to be a great episode..
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Ozzie's body is not that unique.
00:11:37
What was the worst part about doing drugs? When were you at your lowest?
00:11:41
My friends were dying. Igor Chumychkin..
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[Igor Chumychkin - Alisa guitarist]
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And Anatoly Krupnov later..And Alexey, who played sax..
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This was a plague.
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Nikita Zaytsev, too.
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So many people died.
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Why did Igor Chumychkin kill himself?
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I have no idea why he did that.
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I think that acid did this to him.
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I never liked acid. I had horrible acid trips.
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I didn't like those.
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I was going to hell when I did acid.
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All of my trips were in hell.
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Not my thing.
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Now I understand that these were warnings from the Lord.
00:12:50
What was you near death experience?
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I was told that people would put a wet rag on me and it would sizzle and dry out.
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On your body?
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On my forehead.
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It would become dry.
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Yes. You were so overheated.
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I was. Luckily, it's now in the past.
00:13:19
I'm clean. I quit doing drugs in 1995. Over twenty years ago.
00:13:27
Drinking alcohol is a bit more complicated. I quit drinking for eight years when I was 40. I started drinking again at fifty and now I don't drink anymore.
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For about a year.
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In 2016 you had some health issues.
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What year?
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2016.
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Yes. You had a heart attack.
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I did.
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What happened?
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This is called an infarction.
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I was working out in the gym and felt sick.
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I crawled home and told my wife I was sick.
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She sent me to the hospital.
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You realized you needed to go to the hospital.
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It hurt a lot.
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My heart hurt.
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They say heart doesn't hurt but it does.
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They sent me to the hospital and did ECG.
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Then they injected thrombolytic and called a helicopter after I had another heart attack.
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You were sent to Saint Petersburg.
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I was.
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Could you die that day?
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Of course, I could. I would die.
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What saved you?
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The doctors.
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Local ambulance saved my life.
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They injected thrombolytic..
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They did everything quickly.
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They did everything correctly and saved my life. Thanks to them I'm alive.
00:15:11
Did you pay them back?
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Of course, I did.
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What did you do?
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I brought them a big basket.
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A full basket.
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A basket..
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Of different stuff.
00:15:22
Do you remember your first show after the heart attack?
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I do. I was scared and I drank some cognac.
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It was okay.
00:15:43
Were you nervous?
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Of course, I were. This is why I drank alcohol.
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How did the show go?
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It was great. You have this muscle memory.
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I don't drink too much before the shows. I control myself.
00:16:02
There were a couple occasions..
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I wanted to ask you later..I can't resist.
00:16:08
A recent show in Glavclub..
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This wasn't in Glavclub. This was in Kosmonavt.
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There were a few shows..They couldn't film me in the past..
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There was no Internet.
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Internet remembers everything, doesn't it?
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I'm embarrassed. I was waiting to perform for too long.
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The show was getting delayed.
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I made a mistake and got too drunk.
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You drank half a bottle of cognac..
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Much more than that.
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We play a good show after a bottle.
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I finish the bottle in the end of the set.
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This time you drank more than that.
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I did.
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Much more than that.
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I'm embarrassed and once again I apologize to my dear audience.
00:17:10
And still you didn't mess up any lyrics.
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I guess, I did.
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Did you?
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I messed up some songs.
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Sukachev has those nights, too.
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Rushan used to sing for him when he was too drunk.
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Nobody can sing for you, though.
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Nobody.
00:17:31
Is this your daughter?
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It is. Is she an actress?
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She is.
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Have you heard her singing?
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I have.
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We saw this on her Instagram.
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She sings well.
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She's great.
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Were you worried about her becoming an actress?
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It was her mom's idea. She said Vera needed to try this job.
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She was accepted in MAT.
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She studied at Serebrennikov's class.
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And stayed there for a year.
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She studied there for a year and then she went to Zhenovach's class.
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What did she tell you about Serebrennikov?
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They didn't have good relationship.
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I guess, she didn't like the aesthetics. She was brought up differently.
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Serebrennikov's style is too provocative, isn't it?
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I guess so.
00:18:32
With all these..
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Are you talking about naked actors..
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And all of this stuff..
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Yes. Freedom of certain genders and so on..
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Did you know that Serebrennikov was famous for his style?
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Or did you find this out in the process?
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I found out in the process. I'm not into really theaters.
00:18:58
So you couldn't make her change her mind.
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I didn't do it. She's a girl.
00:19:02
This is fine.
00:19:06
Do you like theaters?
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I do.
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Aren't one of those people who get bored?
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I love theater. I don't quite like cinematography.
00:19:13
Can you explain why?
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There is some magic in theaters.
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While there is no magic in movies. There is production only.
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This is why I don't film our shows. A show is an act.
00:19:28
There is a secret in every show. It disappears right after the show.
00:19:36
'Sang and melt down'
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We finish our shows with this song.
00:19:44
How can we film this magic?
00:19:54
In 1993 you received a medal for defending Russia from Yeltsin.
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i did.
00:20:00
Is it true that you tried to make him show the sign of the horns?
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He didn't have some fingers.
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I was hungover when they drove me there.
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I told Boris Yeltsin I was a little out of shape.
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This was nine days after Igor killed himself.
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Yeltsin said 'We are all out of shape on the ninth day.'
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He won me.
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I told him that all the street boys supported him.
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I asked him to show the sign of the horns to say hello to them.
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He said he couldn't do it because he didn't have some fingers.
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I asked him to use another hand.
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And he did it.
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He did a sign of the horns with his left hand.
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He did.
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I don't know if this was on camera..
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I guess, it was.
00:20:49
He gave you a medal for defending the White House.
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He did.
00:20:53
Why did you go there?
00:20:54
It might sound banal but I followed my heart.
00:21:00
I felt like if we didn't do it we would turn into an obedient herd again.
00:21:16
Now this looks controversial. Back then I had no doubts about going there.
00:21:29
What didn't you like about the Soviet Union?
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Everything.
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The hypocrisy.
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What does a young man dislike about the state?
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Hypocrisy.
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Lies. It's all fake.
00:21:44
What makes modern Russia different from Soviet Union?
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I guess, nothing.
00:21:48
The same fat ghouls at power.
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The thing is..Others wish to take our resources away.
00:22:06
This is why we should have a strong army.
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And navy.
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Who wished to take these away?
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Of course, America.
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America wishes.
00:22:15
It became obvious to me when they were bombing Belgrade.
00:22:24
All the illusions that the West was a heaven on Earth were ruined.
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There are no illusions left.
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America has always been our enemy.
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I'm not talking about their people. Their people might be wonderful.
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Lovely people. Their state wants to destroy Russia.
00:22:52
And it's never the opposite. Russia never wanted to destroy America.
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Russia defends itself.
00:23:00
We have to defend.
00:23:03
I know this isn't a popular opinion..
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It is popular.
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It's not.
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It's trendy on TV now.
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On TV it is. In reality it's not trendy.
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As far as I know, 86% of Russians support this opinion.
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It is popular indeed.
00:23:20
I don't believe in 86%. Whatever.
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Can you clarify the relation? America was bombing Belgrade..
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Which was definitely a wrong thing to do.
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Why do you think they wish to destroy us?
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Because we and the Serbs are brothers.
00:23:41
They threatened us. They slapped us in the face. This could happen to us.
00:23:51
They were destroying or Orthodox Christian brothers.
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Serbs are our only brothers. Bulgarians are cowards. They are not our brothers anymore.
00:24:05
Are they cowards because they're in EU?
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They are.
00:24:09
They don't have an opinion.
00:24:14
Are Ukrainians our brothers?
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They are.
00:24:17
They definitely are.
00:24:18
Unfortunately, they turned to other side. To Bandera side.
00:24:29
They hate us. And this hate is going to grow in the future.
00:24:39
Don't you feel like we could prevented this from happening?
00:24:45
How?
00:24:48
We could have a better quality of life here than in Europe.
00:24:56
If we were as wealthy..
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Our territory is too big. It all comes to one problem.
00:25:02
Our country is too big.
00:25:04
And because of it we cannot be wealthy?
00:25:06
We cannot lose any territories.
00:25:10
Canada is a big country as well, but the retired people in Canada live better than in Russia.
00:25:20
You need to ask the politicians. They are responsible for it.
00:25:26
I do rock-n-roll.
00:25:29
I exist outside the society. I wish we were as wealthy as Canada. For some reasons, we are not.
00:25:35
This is my answer. I'm a clown, a joker.
00:25:44
I cannot say why we are so poor. I would be a politician had I known the answer.
00:25:53
I would be sitting in my office with these giant cheeks.
00:25:56
Can you imagine protesting now as you did in 1991?
00:26:04
I'm too old. I'm to old to climb the barricades.
00:26:10
What difference does it make?
00:26:13
I think you can do more chin ups than me in your gym.
00:26:17
What can I protest against?
00:26:20
I'm happy now.
00:26:22
Shit..
00:26:24
A happy rock musician?
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This is me. Konstantin Kinchev.
00:26:28
You have to..
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The end.
00:26:32
In this genre you have to..
00:26:35
The journalists invented these rules.
00:26:37
How?
00:26:38
You did. You made this genre up.
00:26:40
All this protest and so on.
00:26:42
Yes! A pain in the ass.
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You made this crap up.
00:26:45
We need to fight this cliche.
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And leave you disappointed.
00:26:53
'We don't get it. We need to write something'
00:26:57
Okay..Do Ozzie and Bono know that this cliche was invented by journalists?
00:27:04
They still represent the cliche.
00:27:07
Bono is still touring around the world..
00:27:12
What do people think about Bono? They think that he's fucked in the head.
00:27:15
He's always fighting for something.
00:27:19
He should be doing more music.
00:27:22
I don't like U2.
00:27:23
I've read that his fellow Irish people don't quite like him.
00:27:36
They call him the same word that I used.
00:27:40
There are much more problems in Ireland..
00:27:43
than protecting African bugs from the floods.
00:27:54
Okay. What about Roger Waters?
00:27:56
Is he also fucked in the head?
00:27:58
He's not. I like him more.
00:28:02
He's a pain in the ass, too.
00:28:04
He has a opinion.
00:28:06
Ozzie doesn't have one.
00:28:08
People are different.
00:28:10
We have Shevchuk and Makarevich.
00:28:13
They are a pain in the ass.
00:28:15
They are great guys, I respect them a lot.
00:28:19
They have an opinion.
00:28:21
They cannot stay quiet.
00:28:24
I can.
00:28:26
I'm okay with everything.
00:28:29
In 2011 you said we needed to protest.
00:28:36
The lie was too obvious. I was so outraged. I'm outraged by United Russia.
00:28:45
I don't like United Russia.
00:28:48
I'm sick of Putin. It's clear that they are going to rip the country in pieces if he leaves. Let him stay.
00:28:57
I'm sick of him, though.
00:28:58
I can't look at him anymore.
00:29:01
And for how long does he need to stay?
00:29:04
As long as he wants, like a tsar.
00:29:07
We should anoint him and relax.
00:29:12
I support monarchy. Only a monarch can rule such a big country.
00:29:19
Don't you think that he can have a couple of successors?
00:29:23
I don't.
00:29:28
Why?
00:29:29
I think his family members can replace him. I offered such an elegant scenario and got criticized for it..
00:29:44
What was your suggestion?
00:29:46
There are two royal brothers in England and Putin has two daughters..
00:29:55
We need to make something big out of it..
00:30:01
Do you want Harry to..
00:30:04
We would start a dynasty..
00:30:06
Oh, god..
00:30:07
Elegant, isn't it?
00:30:11
And British Royals would replace Putin, right?
00:30:15
They would.
00:30:16
It's too late, they are all married now.
00:30:20
I had this idea in the 2000s.
00:30:25
Like Boris Yeltsin called this, a squiggle.
00:30:29
Oh, god!
00:30:31
I agree.
00:30:37
Is this the path to the lake?
00:30:39
It is. Is this your banya?
00:30:41
It is.
00:30:42
How big is your plot?
00:30:44
About 17 hundred square meters.
00:30:49
Let's go to the lake.
00:30:51
It's a tiny plot.
00:30:52
It is.
00:30:53
Is this your boat?
00:30:54
It is.
00:30:55
Do you sail a lot?
00:30:57
I go fishing every fall. This is when I sail.
00:31:04
Every winter the lake gets frozen.
00:31:05
We skate here.
00:31:07
Do you? Of course, we do.
00:31:08
Do you have a hockey stick?
00:31:09
I also have a net.
00:31:10
There was a show when you fell off the stage.
00:31:23
Yes, I remember the balloons.
00:31:25
What city was that?
00:31:26
This was a gas- or oil-producing town..
00:31:29
Close to Ukhta. We were playing at some holiday show.
00:31:38
Like a City Day? Kind of. These balloons confused me.
00:31:42
I stepped on one and fell down.
00:31:45
Is this where Natali also fell down?
00:31:46
I don't think so.
00:31:47
She wasn't there, was she?
00:31:49
She wasn't.
00:31:50
You stood up pretty fast..
00:31:54
I regrouped.
00:31:55
Regrouped? I learnt this as a kid.
00:31:58
You played hockey when you were a kid, didn't you?
00:32:00
I played hockey and did gymnastics.
00:32:03
Artistic gymnastics.
00:32:04
Artistic?
00:32:07
You were playing for Spartak hockey team.
00:32:08
I was.
00:32:09
Fomenkov was coaching me. As well as Evgeny Mayorov.
00:32:12
Evgeny Mayorov?
00:32:14
A famous player who later became a legendary announcer.
00:32:17
Why did you quit hockey?
00:32:19
Look at me.
00:32:21
So what?
00:32:22
All the guys grew up. I was playing guitar and smoking.
00:32:28
Some weed..
00:32:30
So you quit.
00:32:32
I did.
00:32:33
Do you support Spartak or Zenit?
00:32:36
I've never supported Spartak.
00:32:39
I was a CSKA fan when I lived in Moscow.
00:32:41
Even though I was playing for Spartak.
00:32:43
This is so..
00:32:45
It is..
00:32:46
This is a treason.
00:32:47
I lived close to Sokolniki, where all the Spartak academies are located.
00:32:53
This was more convenient for you.
00:32:55
It was.
00:32:56
So now you support Zenit.
00:32:58
Of course, I support Zenit now.
00:32:59
I'm a bit of a traitor. I played for Spartak and supported CSKA.
00:33:05
I can root for Zenit now.
00:33:07
What did you feel when the fans invited you to sing Nebo Slavyan?
00:33:11
I was honored to do it.
00:33:14
It was a big honor.
00:33:25
It feels great when they invite me to come over.
00:33:31
It's more powerful than the show.
00:33:42
There's another important topic that gets teased in rock community. I would like to talk about it seriously.
00:33:54
This is Orthodox Christianity.
00:33:56
What happened in Jerusalem that made you get baptized?
00:34:05
In 1992.
00:34:07
Saying that there was a miracle would be a big understatement.
00:34:10
I cannot describe it.
00:34:13
I was excited.
00:34:17
I was looking for god. I was getting ready to accept this faith.
00:34:28
My trip to Jerusalem was another gift that I got after a couple of others.
00:34:41
Stas Namin offered me to play a show there.
00:34:46
We played a show at the fires of hell. The venue is located right there..
00:34:58
In Jerusalem?
00:34:59
Where the fires of hell used to be.
00:35:01
They would throw all the dead bodies there to keep the city clean.
00:35:07
And now there's a venue there.
00:35:11
We were playing a show in the fires of hell.
00:35:13
This is rock-n-roll.
00:35:14
Okay.
00:35:16
This is how journalists see it.
00:35:19
It's not about the journalists. I'm as impressed as you were by Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.
00:35:26
I like the mystery.
00:35:28
We stayed in Jerusalem for a week. After we played the show.
00:35:33
I went around the city. I visited all the monasteries..
00:35:44
We met a nun from a monastery..
00:35:58
Which didn't belong to Russian Orthodox Church yet..
00:36:04
I followed her to the monastery. We walked through the Garden of Gethsemane.
00:36:13
I followed her and went back.
00:36:17
I climbed over the fence to see the olive tree where Jesus got arrested.
00:36:26
Did you know this was the tree?
00:36:29
I knew that. You just have to believe it.
00:36:34
I sat there thinking: it would such a blessing if I get stabbed here.
00:36:43
Stars above me..
00:36:47
I flew back to Moscow and got baptized.
00:36:53
Then I started fighting my addiction.
00:37:02
I knew I had to quit. I was accepted in my church despite being despicable.
00:37:17
Could they refuse to baptize you?
00:37:18
I don't know that. I felt like I didn't deserve it.
00:37:21
I didn't deserve to be baptized.
00:37:25
I was a bastard. Stinky bastard.
00:37:29
Who was I?
00:37:31
Garbage. Dust.
00:37:35
I was honored to be accepted. So I started fighting my addiction.
00:37:38
I was praying to God to make me stronger. Three years later I quit doing drugs.
00:37:48
I could only do it with God's help.
00:37:50
I can only be thankful to my dear church.
00:37:56
That's it.
00:37:58
People say I have brain christianity. It's okay.
00:38:04
They can think whatever they want. I wish them all the best.
00:38:09
I know there is no mechanism behind this..You were fighting addiction for three years after you became religious..
00:38:22
It took you three years to stop doing drugs. Why did this miracle happen in three years, not four or five?
00:38:30
How do you explain this?
00:38:33
This is a sickness. It needs to be fought just as we fight cancer with chemotherapy.
00:38:43
Most of the people die from cancer.
00:38:49
A small percentage survives. I'm one of those survivors.
00:38:58
I would never do this on my own.
00:39:00
This sickness absorbs you.
00:39:04
Every cell of your body is asking for another dose.
00:39:10
This is a tough battle.
00:39:14
Both physically and mentally. It's hard to leave it behind.
00:39:24
Chacha Ivanov of Naiv said you lost a lot of fans after you became religious.
00:39:33
Is this true?
00:39:34
Did you feel this?
00:39:37
Our band is a rollercoaster. There are some ups and downs which are never fatal.
00:39:51
We lost some part of our audience. They switched to Korol & Shut.
00:39:57
And then we got these people back.
00:40:02
This is it.
00:40:04
We lost our liberal nerd audience.
00:40:15
May God help them find another favorite band.
00:40:22
The nerds?
00:40:23
Yes. I think they've left the country already.
00:40:28
This is why our shows abroad aren't that good.
00:40:34
We're playing some decent shows in Germany..And that's the only foreign country where we have a big audience.
00:40:44
People who left Russia in search of a better life would listen to Nebo Slavyan.
00:41:01
I have some questions about this song, too.
00:41:02
You used to say you support the Patriarch because you're a soldier. Soldiers never discuss the order.
00:41:12
I still think the same.
00:41:14
What if the Commander possesses some luxuries which have nothing to do with faith?
00:41:24
I'm a private and shouldn't notice these luxuries.
00:41:35
Isn't this hypocrisy?
00:41:37
Why?
00:41:38
He has this luxury watch. You pretend you don't see it.
00:41:42
I don't know what you're talking about.
00:41:45
The watch that disappeared from the photo.
00:41:47
Do you think I use Internet as much as you do? I don't.
00:41:51
I can live without it.
00:41:55
Another question. I'm convinced that most of the priests are great people and they are keeping church alive. These people are protecting our country.
00:42:17
What about the priests who have these luxuries? Watch, cars, alcohol..
00:42:34
I agree with you on this one..
00:42:38
Why do you think you are a soldier of these people?
00:42:46
This is good for my soul.
00:42:49
It gives me humility.
00:42:52
It makes no sense.
00:42:55
It makes no sense. Faith has nothing to do with common sense.
00:43:04
Faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.
00:43:10
This how Paul defined faith.
00:43:14
People in church have the same sins that we have.
00:43:19
This is obvious. This might sound wild for a neophile.
00:43:30
You don't want to accept it. If you realize that the church is no different from the world you would accept that.
00:43:52
Satan is here to seduce us.
00:43:58
The priests, too.
00:44:02
They'd have to pay for that, though.
00:44:05
Some people live thinking they would never die.
00:44:09
Most of the people live this way.
00:44:11
This isn't good for them.
00:44:13
I'm talking about the fat priests, too.
00:44:20
Or even the monks.
00:44:24
They would all be accountable.
00:44:26
For every sin.
00:44:31
Have you ever felt like the Patriarch was one of those priests?
00:44:41
He is chosen by other priests. This is their choice. I like Kirill.
00:44:53
What do you like about him?
00:44:54
He's a good politician and negotiator.
00:45:02
It is good for the Patriarch.
00:45:04
When he met the Pope he did the right thing for the Christians.
00:45:16
He is a smart diplomat.
00:45:24
Others would never do that.
00:45:26
You've seen a lot in your life. Can you explain why is the Orthodox church so intolerant to homosexuals?
00:45:35
Christ was intolerant to them, too.
00:45:40
This is it.
00:45:41
This is unnatural.
00:45:50
This is unnatural.
00:45:52
Lots of things are unnatural..
00:45:53
Who would give birth?
00:45:54
Some of heterosexual sex practices are unnatural, too.
00:46:04
Probably..
00:46:05
We allow these to happen.
00:46:07
We don't.
00:46:09
Your quote from 2007:'We shouldn't use tolerant words to describe homosexuals.'
00:46:17
'We should send these guys to prison.'
00:46:20
I said this in the Far East.
00:46:25
Ten years later..Do you still think the same?
00:46:27
Of course, they have to be scared.
00:46:31
Going to prison for private life?
00:46:34
Okay..Let God judge them.
00:46:37
I don't like f****s. What can I do about it?
00:46:42
Why would you send them to prison?
00:46:43
I don't want them to molest the kids.
00:46:48
Do you think they molest the kids?
00:46:51
Of course, they do.
00:46:53
Heterosexuals can molest kids, as well.
00:46:56
You're talking about pedophilia, not homosexuality.
00:47:00
Listen..
00:47:05
I'm trying to understand your logic. I don't want to persuade you.
00:47:08
I don't them to have any parades. They can f**k each other in the ass privately.
00:47:18
They're fighting for their rights now.
00:47:24
Let them have their parades at Airborne Forces Day.
00:47:28
We'll see what happens.
00:47:31
There's a lot of buzz around the insulting the religious feelings law. What do you think about it?
00:47:36
I think this is bullshit.
00:47:38
This is absurd. I think article 282 is also pretty bad.
00:47:46
They've sent some guy to prison for posting a picture of me.
00:47:48
There was a picture of me from one of the shows. They considered this as extremism.
00:48:03
They sent the guy to prison.
00:48:04
What did you do on the picture?
00:48:05
I raised my hand the wrong way..
00:48:08
Pointing to the sun?
00:48:11
I just raised my hand during the show.
00:48:16
I think that these laws are worth protesting against.
00:48:23
These need to be cancelled.
00:48:25
Article 282 needs to be cancelled.
00:48:27
How is the other one called?
00:48:31
Insulting..
00:48:32
Insulting the religious feelings. This is bullshit.
00:48:37
Can you explain why?
00:48:39
There is no such thing as insulting the religious feelings.
00:48:43
If you are a true believer.
00:48:45
Christ was beaten and crucified.
00:48:49
Was this an insult?
00:48:53
Christ taught us to follow him.
00:48:57
If they beat you, God loves you.
00:49:07
You're on the right path.
00:49:11
Not vice versa.
00:49:13
Religious feelings were invented by United Russia.
00:49:19
These kulaks..
00:49:24
I'm surprised that you are both liberal and conservative.
00:49:32
I'm a paradox. I'm surprised, too.
00:49:38
You've watched the whole World Cup.
00:49:39
I have.
00:49:40
Here in the village.
00:49:42
Even England-Tunisia and Belgium-Panama?
00:49:45
I watched all the games.
00:49:46
Wow.
00:49:47
You have a lot of spare time.
00:49:50
I do. All of my time is spare.
00:49:53
Even when I'm on tour.
00:49:55
This is my spare time.
00:49:57
The heaviest thing I ever held in my hands was the mic.
00:50:04
The Great Rock'n'Roll Swindle is about me, too.
00:50:09
Why do you think we're not in the semis?
00:50:12
Because of Smolov.
00:50:17
You said he was showing off.
00:50:18
Absolutely. He was.
00:50:20
Was he?
00:50:21
I think so.
00:50:22
What else could that be?
00:50:26
He didn't aim at the center. He shot at the goalie.
00:50:33
He should have hit the center.
00:50:36
Of course.
00:50:37
He should have kicked it higher than he did.
00:50:39
Higher?
00:50:40
Of course.
00:50:41
Do you a have a favorite player in team Russia?
00:50:43
It's Dzyuba.
00:50:45
He's a cool guy.
00:50:47
He's a traitor, too.
00:50:49
He is. I respect him.
00:50:50
What annoys you the most in Russian football?
00:50:52
Their laziness. I can't stand this laziness.
00:50:59
Cherchesov managed to get rid of it.
00:51:05
As soon as he did it they started running. They were grinding for the win.
00:51:10
This was great. It was a pleasure to watch them play.
00:51:16
I was happy and proud.
00:51:19
Aren't we all lazy?
00:51:22
We are..Cherchesov has managed to get rid of it.
00:51:28
Russian Premier-League is so boring..
00:51:33
They're all walking around the pitch relaxed.
00:51:43
We need to clarify a couple of things for the new generation. For those who are seeing you for the first time.
00:51:54
Can you explain what it is drawn on the cover of Solstice?
00:51:59
There is a Solstice on the cover of the Solstice album.
00:52:07
It pretty much looks like a swastika.
00:52:08
So what?
00:52:09
Is it a swastika?
00:52:11
Swastika is a path that the sun follows from the West to the East.
00:52:17
This is swastika.
00:52:19
Solstice is a direction from the East to the West.
00:52:22
It's the opposite.
00:52:25
It is.
00:52:26
Not from heart to the sun but from sun to the heart.
00:52:29
What did you mean to say when you made this cover?
00:52:32
A flying cross is a symbol of the Holy Spirit.
00:52:35
In the Orthodox tradition, a path following the Holy Spirit lies from the East to the West.
00:52:49
Like this flying cross.
00:52:52
The blessing of the Holy Spirit that comes from God is directed from the West to the East.
00:52:58
If you're turning this cross..Choose your side correctly. Be a human, not a God.
00:53:09
Ask for this blessing of the Holy Spirit.
00:53:13
This is what I meant by this album cover.
00:53:18
Let's be honest. Were you surprised when many people saw it as a Nazi symbol?
00:53:28
I knew what I was doing.
00:53:30
It didn't stop you.
00:53:31
It didn't.
00:53:32
It was important for me to do it.
00:53:39
This cover was important for me.
00:53:43
I knew I would get no promotion in the media..
00:53:50
I was criticized by almost all the journalists.
00:54:00
I still did it.
00:54:03
I went through this.
00:54:05
Let's clarify what you think about it.
00:54:11
Do you have any Jewish or Caucasian friends?
00:54:15
Of course, I do.
00:54:16
Close friends as well?
00:54:18
Yes. My friend Bekhan is Chechen..And I have a lot of Jewish friends.
00:54:25
What does Bekhan feel about Nebo Slavyan (Slavic Sky)?
00:54:29
We loves it. Tatars love it, too.
00:54:32
He's fine.
00:54:43
Some Chechens say they wish I was Chechen and wrote a similar song for them.
00:54:51
Look..I think that a Russian nationalist is different from a Ukrainian nationalist. A Ukrainian nationalist is a Nazi..
00:55:07
He thinks his nation is the one.
00:55:12
Russian nationalists are imperialistic.
00:55:20
We are willing to unite all the nations around us.
00:55:26
We don't want to humiliate anyone.
00:55:30
We would give them homes.
00:55:35
You've never humiliated other nations, haven't you?
00:55:38
At home..Or somewhere else..
00:55:42
I can't be sure about that. I'm mad at myself when I do so. I know it's wrong.
00:55:55
There are no good or bad nations.
00:55:59
There good and bad people.
00:56:04
It has nothing to do with nations.
00:56:05
We are all created by God.
00:56:09
What about your fascist reputation..
00:56:13
They made this up in 1987..
00:56:15
Have you ever been sick of it?
00:56:19
I haven't. The dog bark but the caravan goes on.
00:56:23
Doesn't it encourage you? Am I wrong?
00:56:29
In some sense, it did.
00:56:32
It gave me an impulse to fight them. It helped me write new songs.
00:56:45
It's a nice feeling. I like it.
00:56:49
Nowadays I don't care.
00:56:52
I don't care how I look.
00:56:56
Let me ask you the final question: have you ever liked fascism in any kind?
00:57:01
I liked the aesthetics.
00:57:04
The aesthetics?
00:57:05
What do you mean?
00:57:12
I like their uniform and their colors.
00:57:17
You like the visual part.
00:57:18
Yes, the visuals.
00:57:19
I hate the rest of it.
00:57:27
What is going on here, Konstantin?
00:57:28
This is fermenting room.
00:57:31
In these tins.
00:57:32
Moonshine is made of this ferment.
00:57:34
It is. I don't do it anymore because I stopped drinking.
00:57:37
What do you do with the ferment?
00:57:39
You leave the ferment for two weeks. And then I boil it in a cube.
00:57:46
What is a cube? A big pot?
00:57:48
Here it is.
00:57:50
Okay.
00:57:52
There are tubes for the steam.
00:58:00
And the coil. When veterans die they out their medals at the front of the carriage. Rock-n-rollers have coils.
00:58:19
Konstantin, this was illegal in the Soviet union. Is this legal now?
00:58:24
It is legal as long as you don't sell anything.
00:58:26
It is legal if you're making this for yourself.
00:58:28
Right. What does the church say about it?
00:58:32
About drinking?
00:58:33
Yes.
00:58:35
What makes us different from Muslims? We are allowed to drink.
00:58:41
We have to behave, though.
00:58:44
This is the most difficult part. That's why I don't drink.
00:58:52
Before the blitz..
00:58:54
I would like to use this opportunity..We haven't talked about it yet.
00:58:59
Shevchuk told you he was offered 100 thousand dollars for a song when he was offered to support Yeltsin.
00:59:07
Huge money..
00:59:09
Do you remember how much?
00:59:10
120 thousand dollars for a song.
00:59:13
Sorry?
00:59:14
120 thousand dollars for a song.
00:59:17
I applaud him. We are losers and we played for 3 thousand.
00:59:25
Three thousand dollars?
00:59:26
This was our wage back then.
00:59:28
Three thousand dollars for a team of twelve people.
00:59:32
This is it.
00:59:34
I played there because I was doing all I could for communists to lose.
00:59:43
I hate the Soviet Union.
00:59:46
Twenty two years later..Do you think you were wrong?
00:59:49
I don't.
00:59:50
I don't think I was wrong.
00:59:53
I played there because I wanted to play a show against the communist regime.
01:00:09
Don't you feel like the regime is back?
01:00:13
It feels like it's coming back.
01:00:16
This is why I'm asking.
01:00:17
I don't like it.
01:00:18
So don't you think you were wrong?
01:00:20
This would have happened much earlier otherwise.
01:00:29
I showed your live videos to my guys..They said you looked like Hulk Hogan.
01:00:47
Do you look so good because of this gym?
01:00:52
I don't look so good now. There was a period when I worked out a lot.
01:00:57
Now I don't exercise that often.
01:00:59
I started drinking and stopped exercising.
01:01:02
I'm trying to recover now.
01:01:03
How much do you bench horizontally?
01:01:06
I don't bench more than 60 kg.
01:01:08
60 kg for a few reps.
01:01:10
Three sets of ten reps.
01:01:12
How much do you weight?
01:01:13
I weight 79 kilograms now.
01:01:16
How many chin ups can you do?
01:01:18
About six times.
01:01:21
I'm trying to work out three times a week. Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
01:01:27
You're working out in this gym.
01:01:29
For an hour.
01:01:31
Great!
01:01:37
Are you happy?
01:01:38
I am absolutely happy.
01:01:40
I can't complain. I've had such an interesting life doing nothing.
01:01:51
I've been doing nothing.
01:01:54
Do you consider yourself a legend?
01:01:56
Of course, I do.
01:01:57
Undoubtedly.
01:02:02
Would you like to die like Tsoy?
01:02:03
I wouldn't.
01:02:04
I'm talking about his age.
01:02:06
I wouldn't. I would live as long as God lets me.
01:02:12
If I'm still alive he needs me.
01:02:15
This is my principle. I don't care about my age.
01:02:21
What is your purpose now?
01:02:23
Only God knows this. I don't understand.
01:02:26
Haven't you tried to understand it?
01:02:28
I tried but I cannot predict anything.
01:02:32
This is a quite by me.
01:02:35
By you?
01:02:36
Yes.
01:02:41
Who is the best rock musician ever?
01:02:43
For me it's clear. This man is an icon. His name is Keith Richards.
01:02:56
Why him?
01:02:57
There was no rock music before Keith Richards.
01:03:00
Keith Richards wrote his gospel.
01:03:07
Rock-n-roll gospel.
01:03:09
A gospel of everything that can be called rock-n-roll.
01:03:11
Didn't the Beatles play rock music?
01:03:15
They played pop music.
01:03:16
Pop?
01:03:18
I think so.
01:03:21
They were talented and great but they played pop.
01:03:27
Blitz. Short questions and not particularly short answers.
01:03:30
Alice in Wonderland or Alice Through the Looking Glass?
01:03:32
Through the Looking Glass, of course.
01:03:34
Why?
01:03:35
There is a secret behind the looking glass.
01:03:39
There is a miraculous tree in the Wonderland only.
01:03:44
Is there a song that you wish you wrote?
01:03:47
There are many songs that Viktor Tsoy wrote..
01:03:50
Can you call three?
01:03:52
Gruppa Krovi, Pesnya Bez Slov, and Spokoyanya Noch.
01:03:58
What are three biggest songs of Russian rock music?
01:04:00
Gruppa Krovi..
01:04:09
Rock-n-roll is dead..
01:04:14
Proebal.
01:04:22
By FPG.
01:04:23
Respect!
01:04:24
Why do you know about this band?
01:04:28
We are friends with them.
01:04:30
We went fishing two weeks ago.
01:04:34
Pukh is a great frontman. He reminds me of myself.
01:04:41
We're similar.
01:04:47
We're the stars of the stage.
01:04:49
It's a rare thing.
01:04:51
Is there a tattoo that you wanted to have but didn't have?
01:04:57
I wanted to have Solstice on my belly.
01:05:01
And a double-headed eagle on my back.
01:05:05
No numbers? No 14 or 88?
01:05:07
These aren't my numbers.
01:05:09
My numbers are 25/17.
01:05:12
This is the maximum for me.
01:05:15
Why don't you have a solstice on your belly?
01:05:17
I decided not to do it. My body is a visible part of my soul.
01:05:22
This is what my religion taught me.
01:05:27
Why would I make it worse?
01:05:31
How old were you when you wanted to do it?
01:05:32
Sorry?
01:05:33
How old were you?
01:05:34
I was mature.
01:05:35
Recently?
01:05:36
Sure. Did you have any new tattoos after becoming religious?
01:05:40
I didn't. So all of your tattoos were done before 1992.
01:05:42
All before 1992.
01:05:43
Who is the best female rock vocalist in Russia and USSR?
01:05:47
Alla Pugacheva.
01:05:48
Rock vocalist? Rock vocalist.
01:05:49
At least, blues vocalist.
01:05:51
I love Alla Pugacheva as much as I love Ozzie Osbourne.
01:05:58
Basta or Guf?
01:06:00
Of course, Guf.
01:06:01
Why?
01:06:03
Because he's honest.
01:06:05
Basta is a sellout.
01:06:08
Sellout?
01:06:09
He is.
01:06:10
Can you explain why?
01:06:11
How can I explain?
01:06:13
Can you give any examples?
01:06:14
He needs to figure out if he's Basta or Noggano.
01:06:18
Wow.
01:06:20
Of course. It's an alter-ego.
01:06:22
Is this an alter-ego? It has nothing to do with rock music.
01:06:30
They are rappers and they can do whatever they want.
01:06:33
I don't understand anything about rap.
01:06:37
Who's your favorite rapper?
01:06:38
Ant, I guess.
01:06:48
Ant, not Bledny?
01:06:49
Ant.
01:06:50
He's a better rapper.
01:06:53
Can you name three best rock bands in Russia currently?
01:06:56
Alisa, Kino, and Aquarium.
01:06:59
The final one: What would you say to Putin if you met him?
01:07:05
Why would I meet him?
01:07:08
It can happen accidentally.
01:07:12
Where am I and where's Putin!
01:07:15
In Leningrad region..
01:07:17
I don't go where he drives.
01:07:21
What if you meet him?
01:07:23
Would you ignore him?
01:07:25
What if..
01:07:26
Would you walk past him?
01:07:27
How can I walk past him? He's only walking in the cordoned off areas.
01:07:35
How can I walk there?
01:07:38
I don't have a goal to meet him.
01:07:42
Can we imagine that you met him?
01:07:47
I'm not going to say anything.
01:07:48
You would stay quiet.
01:07:49
I wouldn't even say hello until he says hello.
01:07:52
Everyone knew who Kinchev was before they found out who Putin was.
01:08:06
A giveaway! Konstantin, what are we giving away?
01:08:08
On October 27 and November 2 we are playing big shows in Saint Petersburg and Moscow.
01:08:15
We're also coming on tour across the country. We're giving away two VIP tickets to a 2018-19 show.
01:08:25
In any city.
01:08:27
The winner would choose the city.
01:08:28
Yes
01:08:29
VIP tickets?
01:08:30
Yes.
01:08:31
Great. The contest is pretty simple. Konstantin is one of those people who are both coming from Moscow and Saint Petersburg.
01:08:44
Even though some people see you as a man from Petersburg.
01:08:49
You became famous here.
01:08:52
We ask you to write a funny punchline about Moscow to make everyone smile.
01:09:17
Who writes the best punchline would get two tickets to the Alisa show. The tour is quite big.
01:09:25
Thank you very much, Konstantin.
01:09:26
Thank you.
01:09:35
What do you think about it?
01:09:38
Yura, please, put you foot down. The viewers would send you a foot file.
01:09:44
I'm not ashamed by it!
01:09:46
Typical worker's feet.

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