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Russian
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who pump up the so-called Polish00:00:04
farmers and protesters who in00:00:06
turn shake up the situation on the00:00:07
Ukrainian-Polish border and the00:00:09
relations between Ukraine and Poland00:00:10
strategic close partners and00:00:12
allies And what is this new disease of00:00:14
blood clots that is simply carried through the00:00:17
spaces of the terrorist Russian00:00:19
Federation answers to these external and00:00:21
internal challenges let's look for it right00:00:22
now Iryna Uzlova My name is Oleg, a forest00:00:25
political scientist with me, Mr. Oleg, I sincerely00:00:27
congratulate you, I am glad to see you, Glory to Ukraine, a hero,00:00:30
Glory, the situation on the00:00:32
Ukrainian-Polish border abroad is00:00:34
intensifying, the degree is getting worse, the00:00:36
organizers of the so-called protests promise that00:00:38
Polish farmers can block00:00:40
passenger trains transportation with Ukraine since the00:00:42
very morning, our correspondents, our00:00:44
presenter, my colleague, our operators00:00:46
work on the Ukrainian-Polish00:00:48
border, they monitor the situation from our00:00:50
side, and even more so from the Polish side, where00:00:52
everything is getting hotter. And here they00:00:54
had a proper conversation with the Polish00:00:56
so-called protesters, what are their demands00:00:58
it seems to be nonsense even for them.00:01:00
Perhaps they are more obvious in the Kremlin,00:01:02
although at the same time they say that we should not be00:01:04
associated with Russia. Well,00:01:06
let's listen. Maybe I don't see00:01:08
these demands and motivations. And you explain to me.00:01:11
We listen to the so-called Polish00:01:12
protester and move on to00:01:16
the discussion Warsaw doesn't think anything about it.00:01:18
Neither you, ladies, nor I, not the Ukrainian00:01:21
president, nor the Polish president will understand00:01:24
what is happening, the two presidents do not know00:01:26
what will happen, the only thing I know is00:01:30
that we all stand for our money here, and two00:01:32
years ago, the same people were I am here to00:01:34
help you. I was also here for two years and00:01:37
with my own money I bought a car for a comrade who00:01:40
went to fight in the East. Two years ago00:01:43
I was for the Ukrainians. Now I stand here for00:01:45
my interests and the interests of my colleagues.00:01:50
Poles are what Putin pays us.00:01:54
Do you understand that it is not wise on your00:01:56
part that Ukrainians make themselves00:01:58
stupid and ridiculous and every Pole00:02:01
turns away from you because of this? You are a good people.00:02:04
I go to Ukraine. I never00:02:07
see anything bad. Ukrainians are not hostile.00:02:10
the people to the Poles, Mr. Lie. Do you think00:02:13
this gentleman knows how to stop Russian tanks? And00:02:16
what? Who is behind all this00:02:18
escalation? Well, first of all, when at least someone00:02:23
equates with a certain phenomenon All the00:02:26
people Well, that is, he says Ukrainians. That's what00:02:29
he doesn't want to repeat. and all the00:02:31
Poles are now turning their backs on you. Well, this is at00:02:35
least wrong, on the other hand, and00:02:38
who told him that he knows who pays00:02:42
his00:02:44
activists the main thing?00:02:56
I repeat this question to the Polish00:02:58
special services and law enforcement agencies00:03:01
because let's see from a legal00:03:04
point of view that00:03:06
blocking the railway This is a law is a00:03:10
crime against the authorities, that is, against the Polish00:03:13
authorities and appropriate measures should be taken to00:03:16
spill the grain,00:03:19
this is at least three years in prison according to00:03:22
Polish laws, but we do00:03:26
not see this yet, but if someone does this and00:03:31
is punished, then he may be00:03:33
part of the scheme that should light a big00:03:36
fire, but when it comes to Poles, today I00:03:39
spoke with a Polish colleague who00:03:42
says that this issue is much deeper00:03:45
protests are taking place all over Poland, but00:03:49
the further from the border there, the less00:03:52
radical they are towards00:03:55
Ukraine. There are no such slogans because00:03:58
the question Polish farmers have is with the00:04:00
Polish government and Brussels, why is00:04:03
Ukraine on the sidelines, well, how can you say on the00:04:06
sidelines of the protest, but Well, off camera00:04:08
they say that Why the Polish border with00:04:11
Ukraine and because the00:04:14
whole world's attention is drawn to Ukraine and if we are here,00:04:16
everyone will see us If we are somewhere00:04:19
in the hinterland, they will see us Only00:04:21
Polish television is also one of the00:04:23
options, another big nuance in00:04:25
my opinion it is not confirmed, but as a version00:04:29
that00:04:30
[music]00:04:31
Russia introduced or, well, introduced or00:04:37
saturated the grain market with cheaper00:04:40
grain, I can assume why it was00:04:42
cheaper because they stole a lot from us00:04:44
and in this way the00:04:48
price of grain decreased. Well, in general on the stock exchanges and this is a00:04:53
Polish issue. My colleague told00:04:55
Brussels why not embargo00:04:58
Russian grain, because it is grain in00:05:01
my opinion. the00:05:11
Polish authorities are afraid of00:05:16
exactly these protesters, this is a00:05:20
rhetorical question for me. Ugh, for us too. To be honest, the00:05:23
Union of Dairy Enterprises of00:05:25
Ukraine and the Polish Chamber of Milk are00:05:27
concerned about this situation on the border of00:05:29
Ukraine and Poland, which hinders00:05:31
foreign trade in dairy products of00:05:33
both countries.00:05:37
settlement of this situation00:05:39
through negotiations and relevant00:05:41
agreements. By the way, the Minister of00:05:43
Agriculture and Rural Development of Poland,00:05:45
Czeslaw Sekerski, wrote a letter to00:05:47
these farmers and offered them to talk because00:05:50
they say, let's see if it will work out,00:05:52
he calls them to negotiations and00:05:54
representatives in the joint text of the statement00:05:56
our dairy companies of Ukraine and00:05:58
Poland are talking about the fact that they know that00:06:01
Polish farmers are under00:06:03
pressure from quite irresponsible00:06:05
political forces that use the00:06:07
dissatisfaction of Polish farmers who00:06:09
bear significant losses caused by00:06:11
ill-conceived regulatory requirements and00:06:13
this is a problem not only of Polish farmers00:06:15
but also of other EU farmers who do they00:06:17
mean by these irresponsible00:06:19
political forces both inside Poland00:06:21
and obviously it is possible that00:06:24
Russian influence is also felt here Well,00:06:27
I think that Let's go the logical00:06:30
way that Russia would not pass by such a00:06:36
crisis, it would definitely not leave because it00:06:39
has to What to do now To the Ukrainians00:06:43
said that all Poles are bad and the Poles00:06:46
said that all Ukrainians are bad and that00:06:48
should be the end of this00:06:52
cold relationship that we had for a00:06:55
certain time, which was thawed thanks to the war.00:06:58
He should return and this should00:07:01
affect00:07:03
help from Poland, but00:07:07
I I must say that at the beginning of00:07:10
our conversation you put00:07:12
the emphasis very well. Are Polish farmers ready to00:07:15
stop Russian tanks in the same way? Sociology00:07:18
has shown that not all of them are, but that there are by and00:07:23
large marginal00:07:26
political forces, which Polish00:07:28
experts have long associated with Russia. and00:07:31
let's go further into the history of all the00:07:35
trade unions around the agrarians, and I00:07:37
spoke with people who00:07:40
know this issue more deeply.00:07:52
I'm not ready00:07:54
to say that Poland has a different name, but as a rule, they have00:07:57
very normal relations, including00:08:00
agency ones, for a long time, maybe it's00:08:03
a conspiracy, and maybe it's part of00:08:07
the fact that there are actions on our border that are00:08:12
designed to cause negative emotions in us.00:08:14
firstly, the dumping of grain,00:08:17
secondly, bringing tires only to us,00:08:19
the tires were there in order to change the00:08:23
road to Russia and prevent Ukraine from00:08:27
falling into the net of the Russian Federation even then 10 years ago,00:08:29
and here simply00:08:32
to use our symbol00:08:34
against us And it is very similar to00:08:37
special operations, you know, which are supposed00:08:40
to generate emotions, just like the slogans00:08:42
that appear at the border that it seems like00:08:46
everyone is helping. But I was helping, and now00:08:49
I am helping myself, but let's00:08:52
see, dear ones, how many taxes00:08:54
our citizens paid,00:08:56
if I'm not mistaken, this figure is an exaggeration00:08:58
the number that Poland has allocated to00:09:01
help refugees, refugee aid00:09:04
consists not only of what00:09:08
Poland provides, if I'm not mistaken, there is00:09:10
money from the UN, so there are a lot of jobs00:09:14
that the Ukrainians seem to be taking, they were00:09:17
vacant until the00:09:19
Ukrainians appeared, that is, the Poles did not want to00:09:21
work On these works, Ukrainians00:09:25
also help the economy of Poland in this way.00:09:27
On the other hand,00:09:31
if you look at who trade is more profitable,00:09:35
let's say the results of the work of00:09:38
farmers, at the moment,00:09:41
if you look at the statistics of last year,00:09:44
it is much more than what00:09:47
we supplied to Poland there. well, there are all kinds of00:09:50
agricultural products, not even agricultural products, but00:09:53
processed products there, well, conditionally, there are00:09:55
juices, and00:09:59
by the way, we have a lot of Polish products in supermarkets,00:10:01
this is about making sure that this money00:10:03
goes to the farmers.00:10:08
slogans will continue to be heard like00:10:11
today is very interesting and, you know,00:10:14
very democratic. God forbid, the00:10:16
Ukrainians will start doing the same thing00:10:19
at the border, it will be even worse. That is, we00:10:22
can do whatever we want00:10:25
outside the boundaries of Polish law, even00:10:28
Ukrainians they can't do it, and there is00:10:31
another option, when all these agreements00:10:33
were signed, including when we signed with the EU,00:10:35
when free trade,00:10:39
let's say, started all these agreements, they00:10:42
are there, they are signed, they are in the legal00:10:45
field, we do not do anything that is outside00:10:48
the legal field therefore, the issue should probably be brought00:10:51
to Brussels and the Polish government,00:10:54
let them solve this issue. But whether they00:10:56
want it or not, they force00:11:00
the leaders of those parties about which you said to00:11:03
catch this hype to make a picture that is00:11:08
replicated in Russia and it harms us as much as it00:11:12
harms us in00:11:14
terms of information and Poland, but these farmers, well,00:11:19
unfortunately, this is not possible. Yes, we00:11:22
noticed it. And what do you see now? At00:11:25
this stage, this is the intensity of00:11:27
passion on the part of these so-called00:11:29
Polish farmers.00:11:31
They will continue to pump for a whole month.00:11:33
they can be affected and who00:11:35
should do it first of all really Brussels. It00:11:38
seems to me that it may be time to take a00:11:40
step higher and react, well,00:11:43
first of all, Poland should contact and00:11:46
as far as I know it00:11:47
contacts, then the relevant minister should00:11:52
communicate and establish some groups00:11:57
or at least topics that will00:12:00
to withdraw gradually, but if I am not mistaken,00:12:02
recently he said that it is very difficult00:12:05
to negotiate with the protesters because00:12:07
their demands are constantly changing and this00:12:11
cannot be so, that is why he said that in00:12:13
this way we will not be able to go to your00:12:15
meeting because they do not stop on the00:12:18
other side there should be negotiations between00:12:22
us and Ukraine. Ukraine should communicate00:12:25
with its00:12:26
colleagues to find some00:12:29
way to avoid this confrontation, and I00:12:34
think it is worth calculating what percentage of00:12:38
transit, because by and large,00:12:40
transit is going and how beneficial it is for us, and00:12:44
maybe there. Well, I don't know. it is hypothetical to00:12:47
abandon this path if we have00:12:50
alternatives here. I am not an expert. Therefore,00:12:53
this is only an assumption from the other side of00:12:56
these objections. What were there in the beginning? Somehow00:13:00
this grain in the Shadow settles and enters the00:13:06
Polish economic space, but00:13:09
let's then look at objectively,00:13:13
if one party conditionally hypothetically00:13:16
sells in the dark, then the other party buys in the dark.00:13:19
Therefore, it is possible that law enforcement00:13:21
agencies and ours and law enforcement agencies of00:13:24
Poland should not only find these00:13:27
schemes and make them ineffective, but also00:13:30
announce it in the media so that it is clear00:13:34
that it is not simple the state policy of00:13:37
Ukraine is to bypass Poland. And these are00:13:42
the cases that will be settled there, but00:13:45
if the demands are drawn up every day,00:13:48
it is clear that these protests will be00:13:51
indefinite. Oh, we will keep an eye on it, Mr.00:13:54
Oleg. We have already mentioned that today is the 10th00:13:57
anniversary of the memory of the Heroes of the Heavenly Hundred and00:14:00
Fifty People in one day, in fact, the00:14:02
dictatorial regime of00:14:04
Yanukovych, who was obviously controlled from the00:14:06
Kremlin, was shot 107 people are included in the list of00:14:08
Heroes of the Heavenly Hundred. We thank everyone and00:14:10
remember their names, their00:14:12
invaluable contribution, in fact, to our00:14:14
truly European future, for which we00:14:15
continue to fight for 10 years now how00:14:18
Russia has been waging a war of aggression against us for00:14:20
two years without four days, which has turned00:14:22
into a full-scale one today, the president of00:14:24
Ukraine together with the first lady, all of Ukraine00:14:26
honors their memory, and00:14:28
European leaders, in particular, the00:14:30
president of the European Commission, our good00:14:32
friend who plans to run for a second term, also respond to this00:14:34
ursula fonderlein says that now00:14:37
We express our respect to the Heroes of the00:14:39
Heavenly Hundred and we see that their vision00:14:41
of the world and their ideals they are already00:14:44
ruling and Ukraine will take the upper hand and take00:14:46
its place in the European Union here00:14:48
Thank you, we are moving towards this with eagerness and00:14:50
can we say Mr. Oleg that00:14:53
in particular and according to the results of, for example, the00:14:54
Munich conference, according to the results of00:14:56
which Avdiivka became a00:14:59
so-called pyrrhic victory for Russia00:15:01
due to the delay in aid from our00:15:03
Western partners, so that after that00:15:06
our ideals and vision of our victory over00:15:09
Russia also coincide with the vision of this00:15:12
in the European Union and the United00:15:14
States America, does the world realize after00:15:16
10 years of Russian atrocities on our00:15:18
territory after Avdiivka,00:15:21
another city was erased, the land was surrendered after00:15:23
mass murder, that it is time to00:15:26
end Putin, you know the Munich conference,00:15:29
it was in the foreign press that I commented on.00:15:38
and such words were used, but I do not00:15:41
agree, first of all, Zelensky managed00:15:43
to do what I00:15:45
predicted to say, to prove to the respectable00:15:50
public that this war is not only in Ukraine, not00:15:53
only in Europe, it is a global00:15:55
problem. I think that something is00:15:59
starting to happen now. therefore,00:16:02
I believe that this conference is in a certain00:16:05
way a00:16:08
response to the Munich conference, when00:16:10
Putin told what he was going to do with the world,00:16:12
and now there is this despair that has00:16:15
appeared among European politicians, or you00:16:17
know, such confusion, uncertainty00:16:20
or confidence that something must be00:16:22
done this is a very late response to00:16:25
what Putin said then, if they didn't00:16:29
just look at him with interest and00:16:33
listen to him and still00:16:35
did nothing, and then there was already the first00:16:38
bell that it was necessary to start00:16:41
working on it, then there was Georgia and then everyone00:16:44
knows what started that continued in the00:16:46
future because in my opinion this is a logical00:16:48
continuation of these Munich conferences.00:16:51
I really want to hope that this00:16:54
conference will be a belated response00:16:57
to Putin's plans and already to what he00:17:00
has done, and it pleases me in the sense00:17:03
that you know it is in desperation or something else I00:17:08
haven't picked up the words yet, but it00:17:10
mostly sounded like a very good desperation.00:17:13
It's when the countries00:17:16
realized that this summit. I would say it's00:17:20
not that kind of sad. It's00:17:23
realistic. It's realism. It's always so00:17:27
black and white, and that's why I think00:17:30
that on00:17:32
this on this00:17:34
platform, the world, and Europe in particular,00:17:38
showed a readiness to be00:17:42
adults because they always looked to the senior, both in NATO and00:17:44
in the European Union, as in00:17:46
the European Union, who will00:17:49
always decide who will protect, the senior is00:17:52
currently busy with his internal00:17:54
affairs and somehow he is not interested in us now00:17:59
or not at all us and that's why00:18:02
everyone understood that it is necessary to somehow fight00:18:06
by ourselves and prepare for the worst00:18:09
scenarios, and that's why I think that this00:18:12
platform was quite realistic.00:18:15
The main thing is that there should be consequences, because the00:18:18
Munich conference does not provide for00:18:20
the signing of any agreements, but00:18:23
the consequences, if we look at00:18:26
Putin's conditionally there where Putin said00:18:27
they are colossal, so I really hope00:18:30
that even after this conference, the00:18:33
civilized world will take00:18:36
colossal actions that will lead to00:18:38
colossal results. Putin00:18:41
faces the unresolved trilemma of financing00:18:44
the war, maintaining the standard of living and00:18:45
curbing inflation. The damage caused to the00:18:47
Russian economy cannot be00:18:49
eliminated without stopping wars and00:18:51
the cancellation of Western sanctions, but Putin00:18:54
cannot do this because his regime00:18:56
can now exist only in a hundred wars. It00:18:59
is safer for him to redouble his efforts by00:19:01
imposing great repression on his hot00:19:03
people than to stop. This will inevitably raise00:19:05
questions about the price and reasons for the war, because00:19:08
Vladimir Putin is not fighting only with00:19:10
Ukraine, but also with its people, writes00:19:12
The Economist magazine, counting the00:19:15
excessive losses of the Russian Federation, which according00:19:17
to the least modest estimates, according to the00:19:19
most modest, it suffered at least00:19:21
13-17,000 killed more than the Russian00:19:24
military, how many wounded, 400 tanks00:19:27
were lost, and the economist writes that this is exactly the00:19:29
sign of an iron Putin's determination to00:19:31
continue his war without counting00:19:33
lives and he is advancing on the00:19:35
domestic front, as evidenced by the00:19:37
death of the Russian oppositionist Oleksiy00:19:40
Novalny, the Putin regime is now00:19:42
turning against everyone and we really00:19:44
see that he simply does not00:19:46
stop at anything and does not plan to solve this intractable00:19:48
trilemma Does he not understand00:19:51
that this leads him more and more to the bottom, well,00:19:55
you know, there is such a fish shark that lives at the00:19:59
expense of00:20:00
movement, if it stops, it simply00:20:04
suffocates, then Putin is such a damn00:20:07
shark that feeds on war, and he00:20:11
realizes that as long as there is a war, as long as he00:20:13
will be in power, and that is why he behaves in this way,00:20:18
and even more so on the eve of00:20:20
his00:20:22
reassignment, he is even tougher. He00:20:25
kills an oppositionist, whether he killed him today or00:20:28
yesterday or the day before yesterday, the main thing is that he00:20:32
killed him and this murder was simply00:20:34
stretched out in time and it is very serious a00:20:37
signal to the world, what is in such a country where00:20:42
they kill oppositionists, even some00:20:44
prisoners who can't even do00:20:47
anything to harm Putin, this is a very00:20:50
serious issue.00:21:00
tough actions against Russia, even under00:21:04
Nabula, because at one time Biden00:21:06
said that God forbid something would happen to00:21:08
Nabula, death in prison was predicted,00:21:11
then there would be devastating consequences, something00:21:15
tells me that these devastating consequences will00:21:17
not be in such a version as I would like to00:21:21
see,00:21:22
but I was surprised by something that didn't surprise me.00:21:26
I hope cynically. I hope that the00:21:33
world is used to the deaths of Ukrainian soldiers and civilian children, but the00:21:38
death of a political prisoner in Russia is the only00:21:42
one who has been killed at the moment.00:21:45
I do not mean the entire historical moment of00:21:48
Putin, but it’s just that in the last few days,00:21:50
it’s possible that it will somehow change, including the00:21:55
Americans, including the00:21:58
Republicans, because the accusation has already00:22:00
been made against them that they play along with such a00:22:04
Putin that Putin kills the oppositionists.00:22:12
In no way our00:22:14
ally and even in the future our00:22:17
friend, perhaps his death can00:22:21
play a positive role in the fact that the00:22:24
West will help us more.00:22:28
I also see such a noisy reaction so far,00:22:31
but we will see, God, how did this00:22:33
Russian dictator live? We are counting00:22:35
deaths in the last days, as you say, Mr.00:22:37
Oleg, because our program to count in the last decades00:22:39
will continue until tomorrow00:22:42
morning, obviously, Yulia Navalny, who said00:22:44
that she will continue her husband's case,00:22:46
comments on the words of Piskov, who says that00:22:49
accusations that Putin00:22:51
killed Navalny are impudent, he tells me not to care How00:22:53
my words are commented by the press secretary of the00:22:55
murderer. And give the body of Alexei. Give him a00:22:57
dignified burial.00:23:13
two weeks, they won't give it, maybe 30 days, which is00:23:15
significant, we showed this screenshot. Yes,00:23:17
because almost no one can look at it anymore,00:23:18
because the account appeared en masse00:23:21
just the day before on00:23:23
Ilona's network, the mask appeared and disappeared, and00:23:26
his master, Oleg, is ours it was removed because00:23:29
it violates the rules of the community, it means that the00:23:31
past alcoholic Medvedev with threats of00:23:33
nuclear weapons on Berlin, Paris, Kyiv and00:23:35
all the cities of the world does not in any way violate the00:23:38
norms of the community.00:23:44
This is not the first time we have heard the narratives of this too.00:23:47
How do you see whether there are any00:23:49
political prospects for Yulia Navalny,00:23:51
because even the so-called00:23:53
Russian liberal oppositionists are divided,00:23:55
some say that there are chances and people00:23:57
can remember her00:23:59
husband if she continues this,00:24:01
but sociologist Ihor Eidman, in particular, who00:24:04
lives in Germany and is the cousin of00:24:06
Boris Nimtsov, to the kingdom of heaven to Nimtsov.00:24:09
She says that even she herself does not00:24:11
need it and does not see, for example, that something00:24:13
can really happen from this.00:24:15
Moreover, she is also abroad. How do00:24:17
you see why her accounts are blocked is00:24:20
there any future and future Well, I00:24:22
will not ask if there is a future of protests00:24:24
in the Russian Federation, because I do not believe in it,00:24:26
although today I heard one of the versions on00:24:29
one of the00:24:31
radio channels that there is hope that Yulia00:24:36
can become Olga, Princess Olga, who00:24:40
will take revenge for my husband, I00:24:43
would really like it to be true, although somewhere00:24:46
deep in my soul I really want it, but00:24:48
in fact00:24:49
I do not believe that it can take off,00:24:54
but if the main motivation is rage00:24:58
and revenge, then here the Russians00:25:01
are usually effective, so I I will00:25:05
hope that she will be able to unite around her,00:25:07
but whom to unite, so what is the00:25:11
question, yes, but again,00:25:15
if again, well, I am trying to somehow00:25:17
attract by the ears what is not attracted,00:25:20
but if you look at the audience00:25:23
that followed the deceased, then this there were young people,00:25:29
young people who don't want to go to war,00:25:32
who want a different life, do you want them to be00:25:36
able to buy iPhones, to be able to go00:25:39
anywhere and not to00:25:42
fight? Well, there, like any other youth,00:25:45
learn to love there and so on. It is possible that00:25:49
this layer can do something. to do,00:25:53
but then again, I am contradicting myself.00:25:56
And what can they do? And what is that, in the00:25:59
grand scheme of things? Well, for now, she is00:26:03
beneficial to us as the person who will voice things that are00:26:07
useful for us.00:26:15
that is, re-elections00:26:18
because he is a murderer, because he is actually a00:26:23
terrorist in power there, and this is happening in our00:26:27
country, here we can, if we do not support it,00:26:33
throw some of our narratives into this piggy bank, because I am aware that they cannot but00:26:37
recognize these re-elections, perhaps as always00:26:40
partially in the occupied territories in the00:26:42
temporarily occupied territories00:26:45
they will say about it, but they still admit it because00:26:47
they are going to be00:26:50
very sorry about the mask. I00:26:59
will00:27:02
tell Tesla what the battery is. Do not00:27:04
install it. I want the battery to be on the00:27:07
roof. Or even better, to have it at home.00:27:18
400-500 km Well, what will they say to me, they will00:27:21
twist their finger around my temple and say00:27:23
Where are you climbing like this? I also have00:27:27
complaints. Where are you climbing like this? Seriously, and00:27:30
the statements are so categorical that00:27:32
Ukraine has lost a long time ago.00:27:37
you don't understand if it's really00:27:40
from a computer game or from your00:27:42
childhood and complicated00:27:44
childhood stories when your father punched you like a00:27:47
goat, and it's not for nothing. By00:27:49
the way, don't you know that people die for their00:27:53
homeland for an idea and not for some00:27:58
illusory ideas fly into space or00:28:01
somewhere else, we are not going to die for it yet,00:28:04
we just want to survive and he does00:28:06
n't realize that, that's why he's such an00:28:10
idol for you, especially since he00:28:13
turned the once leading messenger00:28:18
into, well, let's say a totalitarian sect where only00:28:22
he decides what there may be that there may00:28:24
not be there to support one political00:28:27
force, to disgrace another, to delete accounts and00:28:31
so on. Well, that’s it. Well, that’s not about00:28:34
democracy, so everyone has to deal with00:28:37
their own affairs. There, there is00:28:39
also a need to deal with the stranglers. Federov seemed to say00:28:43
that he figured it out, or they started to figure it out. those00:28:46
Starlinks, I mean those who for some reason00:28:48
appeared in the temporarily occupied00:28:50
territory, there was quite serious00:28:52
news about it, so by and large00:28:55
it is so and so. Well, you understand, it hurts a lot,00:29:00
I once read a big book about him00:29:02
somewhere, I understood that he is not full of00:29:04
reason, but I think he is a genius they should00:29:06
be the same, but he turns from a genius from00:29:10
such an eternal child with dreams of space to00:29:15
such a prince Yes, he00:29:17
gradually turns into a freak and it is painful to00:29:21
watch, oh, Mr. Oleg, as I say, no one00:29:24
asked, but they spoke for something, here00:29:26
you are right, everyone should have their own it's a matter of00:29:28
looking at yourself and thinking, I wish he'd00:29:30
better think that the lives of American,00:29:32
European and other soldiers of all00:29:35
NATO countries are protected by our Ukrainian00:29:36
servicemen and they don't need to00:29:39
count the mask and those countries now. Thank you00:29:41
very much for this conversation. Thank you for your fresh and00:29:44
exclusive thoughts, Mr. Oleg I'm always very00:29:46
happy to see you, as are our viewers. So until the00:29:48
next meetings,00:29:50
let's take Oleg, a forest political scientist, be my00:29:52
own Iryna Uzlova, friends, thank you very much00:29:54
for listening.00:30:01
on Mr. Oleg's social network00:30:03
and tiktok and Facebook and Telegram there00:30:05
you can know more see read00:30:07
current information and his thoughts00:30:09
Take care of yourself Believe in the armed forces of00:30:11
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Ведуча Іра Узлова та політолог Олег Лісний під час стріму обговорили такі теми: - посилення блокування польсько-українського кордону: хто стоїть за "фермерами", які шляхи подолання кризи; - які наслідки матиме для російського диктатора Володимира Путіна вбивство опозиціонера Олексія Навального; - проблеми до яких привів Росію путінський режим: чи можуть вони пробудити бунтарські настрої народу.
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