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Youtube channel And to always listen to

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very interesting things expert opinion and Yulia,

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I was just watching your channel, a very

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interesting story, you can get an

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excursion into history and expert opinions, and you can

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still laugh, so to speak,

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on the Internet. So, subscribe

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to Yulia’s channel, now is the time to

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laugh,

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many people are now in Ukraine. Of course, people are

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very you know how tense many people are

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close to you and are overstressed

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very sometimes, this is how you

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behave so easily now, such a

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difficult time. It seems to me that in such a

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difficult time, this is the number of memes

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that Ukrainians come up with,

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and this laughter was even sitting when

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Kiev was bombed my friend and I

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came up with everything, heard these explosions above us and

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everyone came up with a reason to laugh

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because it’s much easier to endure

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all this horror

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and Sorry Talygina actually That’s why

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I wanted to say that I was

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actually born into suspicion during

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this war I don’t know

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psychologists I haven’t checked that laughter is

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one of the types of biological protection of

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humanity from the horror of what is happening.

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Because at the beginning of its existence,

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humanity is always in the stomach as Ukraine

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has been living for the last nine months.

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Well, I would even say 9 years, just not on

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such a scale, almost 9 years if you take the

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14th year she was all in Crimea for nine years in

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the Donbass

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but no bombs fell on Kiev, so the

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cold war is one thing, the hot war is another thing.

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Yes,

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Yulia Let’s get started,

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you know, literally while you were on the air,

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sir. So we received an

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update on the bear’s news feed, there

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is such a person in Russia

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and again

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yes And again he wrote Twitter Again, that means he

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was roughly knocking his nuclear heel on

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Twitter and said that if Ukraine

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wins,

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we will use nuclear weapons, we will show

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Kuzkin Mother, is this to react, is this

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to be analyzed, or is it just something you need to

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understand, this is a drunken stupor, this is some kind of

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thought, after all, he there for something is

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there

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[music]

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Putin’s Russian government somehow suddenly, first of all, we

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don’t know, Medvedev is leading his Twitter

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or is it leading her to dispel who so

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successfully

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pretends to drink liters of vodka or is it being

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led like this is a team of PR people who

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Maybe combine

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but in any case, I really like the

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first beginning of this

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[music]

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sentence if Ukraine wins

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Agree that

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nine months ago six months ago

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even 4 months ago no I answered

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could not begin with the word if Ukraine

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wins because in fact it

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should be read as when Ukraine Ukraine

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wins I absolutely agree,

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and he didn’t write something like that before,

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even Ukraine will win, there was no such

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word combination yes And now it

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has appeared, why would it be,

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I think I don’t know what about

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Medvedev or the neural network that leads, but

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the neural network that leads him Twitter if

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this is done by neural networks. They Medvedev himself

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must be quite obvious where

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this matter is heading and we actually

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see for the first time that Putin is not just

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trying to move to a defensive war,

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he is desperately trying to switch to a

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defensive war,

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he is looking for any ways to make peace,

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not even without losing face already and losing

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face and

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another thing is that since he lives in an

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alternative reality, he

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uses somewhat strange tools in order to make

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peace, for example, he believes that

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if he deprives Europe of gas, then Europe will be

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afraid and put pressure on Ukraine and force

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it to make peace. While

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after he decided on Europe Steinmeier became gas

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and said we are reviewing the

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erroneous policy of Germany for the last 10

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years in

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Ukraine. I’m not sure that Putin was informed

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about this. Because I don’t know what

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about Medvedev with his neural network, but

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Putin doesn’t have a neural network, he has a bunker, he

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lives in it,

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and in fact this war began

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because he believed what they were reporting to him;

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they had already seen it there with their own eyes.

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But he didn’t believe the reality given to us by the

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feeling

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and, accordingly, I strongly believe that

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he still doesn’t have people who

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dare to report to him exactly what is

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happening,

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he doesn’t use the Internet or

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I I understand that this now sounds strange,

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as Maxim said in a conversation with me, he

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says, You forget that you live in

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another country on every And if and also and

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what And why is another country an

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authoritarian country Is it

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really true Many people say that

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Well, it doesn’t reach his real

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information Everything according to the manuals means everything

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Daddy, everything is written in the

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21st century,

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listen, you understand on the Internet, this is an

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enemy invention, it was invented by the CIA, and

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To destroy Russia, and to use

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it is simply, so to speak, the sin of Satan.

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Besides, everyone lies there, but in

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Daddy he brings the absolutely holy truth

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and For example, they brought him a daddy where they

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told how

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someone was killed by Gaddafi, either by American

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special forces or something like that, remember,

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he told a press conference directly

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that he

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hinted at this very thickly and he was

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n’t joking, he thought so they

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brought it to him in a daddy

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and what they bring to him in a daddy,

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well, you know, oddly enough, you

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just remember from a completely different opera the

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famous dossier of golden showers.

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Well, I can’t say what is reliable, but I

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remember what it was, yes. Well,

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accordingly, it was there. Former

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British intelligence officer Christopher

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forces,

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who was ordered by Clinton's American PR people to do

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something to scout out about

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Trump and he turned to he even, I must

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say, not that he pulled it all out of

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thin air, he turned to a man whose

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name was Igor Danchenko, who was

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some kind of Russian, not even an immigrant

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was moving in Brookins and who

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absolutely naturally had no

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access to either Putin, nothing, the cook, or

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his dog, or anyone from the Kremlin, but

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this Danchenko couldn’t make it all up either.

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He turned to his university

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friends, like some PR woman from

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Rospotrebnadzor or something something like this,

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let all the companies together need to

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suck their thumb and write, well, in fact,

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exactly what the bots who

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were paid 10 kopecks write, remember there was such a

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site that was compromising, that’s what something came up with here, that’s what

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they

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wrote

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And of course they wrote everything

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and accordingly it

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works like this, you can say that this is how

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British intelligence works because

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Christopher is a representative of British

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intelligence

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and the simple fact is that And this is even

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British intelligence, this is not Russian,

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this is not Soviet.

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And this is when you have secrecy,

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then there is a belinket who is something- something to

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investigate and everyone happens and

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accordingly you can check if

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it’s not true he will choose to

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laugh at his reputation will disappear no one

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will give him money and in general they will all go

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hang themselves

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and any intelligence outside wartime I

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emphasize not wartime

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wartime intelligence has important functions

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because, as it were, the fact that it is reconnaissance is

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checked very quickly. Because if

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you throw bombs there, it turns out that the

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bomb fell in the wrong place, then,

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accordingly,

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what intelligence is doing is empirically quickly verified,

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and in Peacetime, when

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intelligence is engaged in the extraction of this

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secret information that remains

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secret then exactly the same thing happens to her

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as in the well-known joke with a

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sharper who got into the company of

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English gentlemen and began to play

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cards and then he was told that the English

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Gentlemen did

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not show the card after the end of the session and then

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the sharper told me the card and so the

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intelligence services all the time

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and I repeat once again, even the Russian

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intelligence dossier of the golden shower was a

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good example of how it turned out to be

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structured from the inside, we just accidentally

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saw a piece, saying we were a little

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stunned, and now imagine the

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same thing but only multiplied by 10 more

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times and with a bias towards ideology

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because well how do you need to talk about

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fighting mosquitoes?

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And about bellaboratories

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and they report all this to Putin. You

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have to understand that it’s not like they are

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inventing this specifically for the

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UN Security Council; they first

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tell Putin about fighting mosquitoes and then

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Putin ends up giving

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an interview somewhere but not gives an interview to speak

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somewhere along the Russian direct line

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or that he speaks there and says

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that in the West

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they are taking the genetic material of Russian

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people to produce genetic

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weapons against Russians specifically

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as we know the honor of these laboratories of the

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white laboratory was in Ukraine,

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which means

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against the Russians at the same time with from Putin's point of view,

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Russians, Ukrainians are one people,

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it's

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not even like

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that. It's some kind of mockery. Sometimes it seems to me that those

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people who convey this information to him are

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mocking him and looking to see if it will work

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or not. I just don't know. Sorry, you

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need to smoke to do this

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also voices the

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meaning

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in Russian of

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what it’s like and how

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can you believe it and why are biological mosquitoes all over the world it

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would be funny If it weren’t so

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sad and people believe in it, people

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come out and talk about it this after this it’s

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strange this is something to discuss because it

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seems to me that I’m delving into some kind of

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anamnesis of a crazy person. But that’s the truth, but

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you understand the problem of a crazy person, don’t

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be offended by crazy people. The fact is that

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crazy people live in their own

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delirium, this is their individual living space

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and there’s no one else there,

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but that’s when you become crazy

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the ruler then, accordingly, is

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forced to live in his delirium if he does not wage

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a war, only his country, and if

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he wages a war, as in the case of Putin, then,

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accordingly, those people whom he

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attacked and then his madness

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turns into blows to the energy system and

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Bucha and Mariupol but I have to intercede, this has

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never happened. And again,

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of course, this has happened many times in the history of mankind.

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I must say

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that any system,

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any poorly functioning

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bureaucratic system, in fact, how does

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it differ from the market and some

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other ways of

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some other systems with

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feedback? It always ends with what

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arises in it This type of relationship This

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type of information flows

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that are made for one in order to

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serve the rulers, he would listen, he

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would hear what he wants to hear

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naturally, when such a system eventually

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meets with war, then a lot of

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troubles arise I won’t have it now

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there is a favorite topic called the

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First War, which China managed to lose

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in the middle of the 19th century, and the

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emperor did not know that he had lost and did

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not even know that he was fighting,

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and under the report of Chinese officials,

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these are the countries where English ships

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appeared and were doing something there. But

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in -firstly, it was called unrest on

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the border, and secondly, it was some

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kind of bad rebels and traders

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who came exclusively to

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trade opium and all the time,

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according to reports from Chinese officials, they

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were on their knees in front of these Chinese

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officials, fur coats, the emperor allowed this to be

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done,

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but I I won’t talk about it for a long time

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because I just have an article on this topic.

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There is an article and a video and it has remained

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so many times said that there are those who

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often listen to me will say all the Latins are

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already sick of us with these examples. I’ll give

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another wonderful example,

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but do you know how at one time she wrote that

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they managed to conquer the Inca Empire,

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after all, the empire was gigantic. And the

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pissura had 160 people, yes 160 people, they

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had armor, they had armor, but

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not armor, but armor, but still, cuirasses, they

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had firearms, they

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had horses. everything is important, the Incas did

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n’t have all this, but still 160 people. Do

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you think they succeeded?

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Well, I don’t know, by cunning, probably still

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some kind of Well, definitely not by force. But you

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know this happened thanks to the

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bureaucratic system of the Incas, who

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imagined one of the most terrible

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Socialist states in the world there,

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well, say that they had private

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property, this would be some

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exaggeration; it was a state

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that actually functioned in the

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regime of military communism, everything was stored

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in giant warehouses, people mostly

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worked for the

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bosses of that time, and when these

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bosses came these strange

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bearded people were on their faces. They simply did not

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dare to report to the Supreme Market that

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someone was coming here to conquer you because it is

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much easier not even by cunning,

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but from the outside, as I already said, the

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bureaucratic system because the

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bureaucratic system was

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intended to report only one thing,

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it reported to the Supreme the markets

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here are kind of

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unkempt and these are idiots who

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came from nowhere, they came

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only for one thing to bow to you,

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Solntselikov, and therefore, in general, they

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reached the capital without hindrance and I

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think that every boss understood what to

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do, the pipe, but when he

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imagined that this was for him

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He specifically needs to fight this boss with this

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detachment, and he thought, is it possible to transfer this

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matter to some higher level, let them

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decide,

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and in order to be able to transfer it to

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this highest level, he wrote

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accordingly an accompanying note

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that these people came in peace in

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order to bow to you, the sun-faced

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And sun-loving people, you also know that sun,

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his eyelids, the spittle could not fall to the

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ground behind him, these spits would eat up the

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hair

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so that there the Hair of the Great really

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could not fall to the ground, special people

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who picked up this hair and ate it up,

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and in the end this this is a very

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perfect system, so far there has been no

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external influence;

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160 people have died. Although later,

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I just want to draw your attention to the fact

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that after all, we are talking about a very mountainous

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country, and as we know in mountainous countries,

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for example in Chechnya, any army can easily be

00:19:00

detained by simply

00:19:04

locking it in a gorge or, say, collapsing

00:19:08

the bridge along which she is walking, but in Chechnya there

00:19:10

were no bridges and, strangely enough, the

00:19:13

Inca Empire was distinguished by the fact that it built

00:19:16

suspension bridges in general. The only thing that

00:19:18

she invented was because there

00:19:19

were no suspension bridges even at that moment in

00:19:22

Europe if I I’m not mistaken, they were, and just

00:19:25

imagine, all these mountain

00:19:27

roads along which the Europeans walked were just a

00:19:31

suspension bridge that was

00:19:33

naturally woven from ropes, it wasn’t

00:19:35

like Like through San Francisco Day Well,

00:19:38

just collapse the suspension bridge and that’s all

00:19:41

nonsense No one will come anywhere

00:19:44

Well, I I think that perhaps this is a wonderful

00:19:48

parallel and the current one from Ukraine is the

00:19:51

second army in the world that stumbled upon them. They

00:19:54

were sure of the tables. Let’s take the Scream. As

00:19:57

Simonyan said passionately, in two days they did

00:20:02

n’t win and we think that here Russia

00:20:06

will come to an end as they say, but we’ll talk about this

00:20:08

with you later I want to

00:20:10

ask the G20 on November 15th the j20 themselves will take place

00:20:17

already talked about what Biden and Putin

00:20:20

did, do it so that they don’t intersect

00:20:23

in principle

00:20:30

or from the video of mosquitoes

00:20:35

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00:20:38

militarization

00:20:41

all the nonsense of a madman does he need to go there

00:20:44

What do you think or is he just

00:20:46

a little the hope is that he

00:20:49

will go there and be arrested there, but unfortunately the

00:20:54

modern world is not structured like that and it’s unlikely that

00:20:58

anyone will take on this courage, it’s a

00:21:02

pity. Speaking of courage,

00:21:07

let’s see how Ukraine is being destroyed.

00:21:11

Of course everyone is empathetic, of course everyone

00:21:13

helps, of course there, but

00:21:16

it comes very slowly weapons and so on, and of

00:21:19

course, Ukrainians are asking the question

00:21:21

why

00:21:22

the bureaucracy can do this, but they can’t

00:21:25

do it all so quickly,

00:21:28

why is it possible, in principle, to somehow

00:21:33

act faster, roughly speaking to the world?

00:21:36

After all, we are now holding

00:21:40

this Satan, we are doing it, roughly speaking in the language of

00:21:45

Russian propaganda, never Don’t

00:21:48

use the language of Russian propaganda, do

00:21:51

n’t even remember, don’t remember

00:21:54

Russian Propaganda in vanity, but because

00:21:57

it’s very

00:21:59

dangerous to say, we’re the enemy doing

00:22:03

this, I’ll say the same thing. Therefore, it’s

00:22:07

better to remain yourself, which means to the

00:22:10

question of

00:22:12

why enough weapons are not supplied.

00:22:15

But here Unfortunately, in the

00:22:19

modern world there are some

00:22:20

conventions that I personally don’t

00:22:22

like either, so why not arrest

00:22:25

Putin in Indonesia or why, in

00:22:28

my opinion, there is Kazakhstan. That’s

00:22:31

why it’s not customary for you to arrest

00:22:34

even a war criminal before he is

00:22:38

defeated. Although from my point of

00:22:39

view this is an outrageous and incomprehensible

00:22:42

convention And in general,

00:22:47

by the way, in different military in different

00:22:52

cultures everything was accepted differently,

00:22:54

for example, in China it was

00:22:57

written many times in the three kingdoms, it was

00:22:59

simply considered a wonderful military

00:23:01

trick, say, to invite the enemy to

00:23:04

marry your sister or

00:23:07

He comes to his daughter’s wedding party

00:23:09

once and they were

00:23:10

n’t even arrested there, let’s say it

00:23:13

was a much more serious event,

00:23:16

but in Europe, since the times of knighthood,

00:23:19

for some reason this was not accepted, here is the

00:23:21

famous Red Wedding that

00:23:24

happened to George Martin, here in China

00:23:27

it would be considered an exemplary military

00:23:30

supreme art, but on the contrary in Europe

00:23:35

and in fact in George Martin it

00:23:39

is presented as something

00:23:42

disfigured that is completely impossible and

00:23:45

that the whole mouth is condemned by Freya

00:23:49

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00:23:51

they did it like

00:23:55

this This is what I mean Why apparently it won’t be

00:23:58

possible to arrest Putin

00:24:01

here I have a feeling that with weapons it’s

00:24:03

a little bit the same. Somehow it

00:24:06

seems to Europe that it is not customary to

00:24:09

supply such a quantity of weapons even

00:24:12

in the conditions of such a serious war in the

00:24:14

conditions of such a proxy war. In addition, it

00:24:17

seems to me that there are several other

00:24:19

factors, one of which is

00:24:22

that For 15 years, Putin was engaged in nuclear

00:24:24

blackmail and kept warming himself like a hose, now it’s

00:24:27

like a hose, and especially at the beginning of this

00:24:31

war,

00:24:32

the United States was really afraid

00:24:34

that he almost directly said

00:24:37

that if someone interferes, then I’m a hose, but

00:24:40

then, accordingly, little by little, so

00:24:43

very softly very softly And interfere more and

00:24:48

more And in fact, from the

00:24:51

point of view of the search for a conflict, it’s

00:24:54

not strange at all,

00:24:55

they did the very right thing, but because

00:25:00

Putin missed the moment when he could

00:25:04

rear up and say so, but this is

00:25:07

already interference

00:25:09

there, two grains more than this already

00:25:12

a heap here there were two grains here there were three

00:25:15

grains And this is already a heap now I’ll

00:25:17

intervene so they missed that he

00:25:19

missed that moment when three grains

00:25:21

turned into a heap and when it was possible to

00:25:23

scream and now I’ll throw a

00:25:26

nuclear weapon

00:25:28

Besides, but actually I think that this is

00:25:31

the main reason

00:25:33

why the United States is delivering weapons so slowly and

00:25:37

according to plan,

00:25:41

and this is, of course, a very pity because, well,

00:25:45

if you look from the point of view of purely

00:25:48

military goals,

00:25:50

then

00:25:51

besides the fact that they are thereby

00:25:55

We just recently

00:25:57

discussed this with Mikhail on our channel at a distance and the

00:26:01

final result of the discussion was

00:26:03

approximately the following: if you give the

00:26:07

same number of guns as they give

00:26:09

155 mm plus f-16 plus attack

00:26:14

plus armored vehicles, but they are not real tanks

00:26:19

Max Pro and not hubbies, then this

00:26:24

war will simply be over by Ukraine in 3-4

00:26:26

months if all this cannot be done if

00:26:29

the supply

00:26:31

will take place the same way as now, then

00:26:35

accordingly Putin will exist all

00:26:38

winter by spring he will have a million

00:26:42

people a

00:26:43

million people a million people Even

00:26:46

if they are armed with rye pans it’s

00:26:49

just hard to grind them,

00:26:51

accordingly with this army he may well

00:26:56

undertake an attack again from Belarus

00:26:59

and something like that, and in any

00:27:01

case, of course, the stars will already

00:27:03

sparkle in his eyes, he will believe that

00:27:05

everything is now

00:27:07

that everything has gone round and

00:27:11

accordingly, that is, the longer this

00:27:14

lasts, the more in the end

00:27:16

the Americans will be all equally, we will have to

00:27:18

give weapons, perhaps in the end even more

00:27:21

weapons, a

00:27:23

huge amount of blood that

00:27:25

will be shed on the Ukrainian side from the

00:27:28

victims, a huge amount of

00:27:30

destroyed infrastructure, killed children,

00:27:33

and a

00:27:36

huge number of refugees,

00:27:39

plus a huge number of those inside who

00:27:43

wandered into Russia, the further the further, the

00:27:47

more difficult it will be I think bow

00:27:49

from conscription

00:27:50

and,

00:27:52

accordingly, These people will also die,

00:27:57

and accordingly the question arises:

00:28:00

why not supply these weapons now, well,

00:28:06

apparently because This is the inertia of the

00:28:09

American bureaucratic system. But

00:28:12

again, by the way, regarding the mobilization,

00:28:14

it seems that Shoigu announced that it is

00:28:16

finished, do

00:28:18

you believe Shoigu?

00:28:21

I I don’t trust any of them at all and my

00:28:24

only desire is never to hear or see in my life.

00:28:27

I’m very sorry. And

00:28:30

sometimes I don’t even want to hear Russian speech,

00:28:34

but this is PTSD, I guess I don’t want to

00:28:38

offend anyone, yes. What I mean is that already

00:28:40

here is one dream

00:28:43

to forget, just these someone wishes death,

00:28:46

someone desires to forget that this

00:28:49

all exists Remember what these

00:28:52

people did to our country

00:28:55

lyrical

00:28:58

I would say that taking into

00:29:02

account you understand

00:29:05

during any war

00:29:08

and humanity always is divided into friend

00:29:12

and enemy,

00:29:13

and during any war, humanity

00:29:18

simply has a defensive reaction

00:29:21

to hate the enemy, very very rarely

00:29:24

there are wars in which, or rather,

00:29:28

in the history of mankind, there were warriors

00:29:30

whose opponents mutually respected each

00:29:32

other, for example, in feudal Europe there were

00:29:36

such wars in the Iliad and the Odyssey

00:29:40

such a war is described when opponents

00:29:42

mutually respect each other, but this

00:29:44

should always be Mutually chivalrous rules

00:29:47

of behavior

00:29:48

were that you

00:29:54

plant the defeated enemy, lead your tent and

00:29:56

serve him, and this really

00:29:58

happened, the English Kings, having

00:30:01

defeated the French, actually

00:30:04

served the French king and the

00:30:07

French chief but by those who

00:30:09

naturally survived But this

00:30:14

had to be mutual and, accordingly, in a war in

00:30:16

which there is no such reciprocity in a war in

00:30:19

which the attacking side

00:30:23

calls it Azov Putin does not seat the

00:30:27

Azov people with him at the table, we know that

00:30:31

he is theirs Judging by the way they came out

00:30:34

captivity, he didn’t feed them there at all,

00:30:36

he stays with them for how many people Yes and

00:30:42

accordingly When such a

00:30:44

war occurs in which one side

00:30:48

demonstrates the absolute

00:30:50

dehumanization of the enemy and begins to

00:30:53

tell that they don’t exist, that they are Nazis,

00:30:56

that they are so and so 5 10

00:31:00

hatred is a feeling that does not

00:31:03

rarely remain happens mutually And I would

00:31:07

say that for such a total war that

00:31:10

Putin is playing,

00:31:12

well, even quite good results

00:31:16

because you see, we

00:31:18

even speak Russian and

00:31:24

how can I say this

00:31:27

and we see a significant part of

00:31:30

Russian society, especially when it

00:31:34

comes to Its intellectual elite

00:31:36

there radically refuses

00:31:40

to share

00:31:42

Putin’s ideology and we see some

00:31:46

part of Ukrainian society

00:31:48

that

00:31:51

admits that not all Russians are like that, this is not

00:31:54

bad in the conditions of such a war, for

00:31:57

me let’s put it this way,

00:32:00

I just can you imagine

00:32:04

that an

00:32:09

Armenian presenter would sit in the conditions of an Armenian

00:32:12

Azerbaijani presenter and we discussed

00:32:17

that a very specific country is right,

00:32:20

the one that was attacked,

00:32:22

for the Armenians - legal Armenians for the

00:32:24

Azerbaijanis, everything just ends here.

00:32:31

Well, you know, there is also the fact that I

00:32:34

still want, and thanks to you,

00:32:37

thanks to our conversation, to convey to

00:32:39

the Russian-speaking non-Russian only Russian to the

00:32:42

population And for those who simply speak

00:32:44

Russian but do not understand Ukrainian, for

00:32:46

example,

00:32:48

Azerbaijan Moldova Kazakhstan people

00:32:51

who live so that

00:32:54

if they don’t believe us, then listen to

00:32:56

you so that they hear the truth Yes, and not

00:33:01

what they can hear on other

00:33:03

Russian-language channels let’s not name

00:33:07

them, that’s why there’s

00:33:11

such a story here.

00:33:18

So you

00:33:20

wanted to sit down and think, but we need to

00:33:22

continue our conversation with you

00:33:25

about Germany. Salt s

00:33:28

recently spoke in Berlin at a

00:33:30

conference on the restoration of Ukraine. Yes,

00:33:32

and he offered, Yes, his own stories there. Although

00:33:35

Germany has been rocking for a very long time.

00:33:38

Well, Steinmar arrived in Ukraine, just

00:33:40

got an alarm, sat in the basement, and

00:33:46

somehow all this was moving because of it, and so

00:33:48

on, and against this background, Zelensky

00:33:51

proposes financial Rammstein, which are

00:33:53

meeting.

00:33:54

So

00:34:00

Zelensky calls exactly the frozen

00:34:02

assets of the Russian Federation, we and

00:34:04

source of funding if

00:34:07

funding begins between the restoration of

00:34:09

Ukraine if practical steps begin in

00:34:12

this matter when the first billions of

00:34:14

Putin's oligarchs begin this budget of Ukraine the

00:34:16

elitters represented by the Russians will become

00:34:20

more active about the issue of undermining Putin's power

00:34:22

if it is at all possible wait,

00:34:26

listen But first of all, there are

00:34:29

no more oligarchs in Russia A in what sense is

00:34:33

an oligarch This person who influences

00:34:37

politics

00:34:40

in the 90s in Russia there were oligarchs

00:34:45

who proudly said Berezovsky or not

00:34:48

Berezovsky that we decide the fate of

00:34:51

the country here. This is really true

00:34:53

because they then gathered in Davos and

00:34:57

said listen then here in the elections

00:35:00

96 Zyuganov will win, let's do everything

00:35:03

that he won, they really did, they

00:35:06

really raised Yeltsin's rating from

00:35:10

three percent to more than 50, which

00:35:12

was enough, but to win fair

00:35:15

elections and Putin, who then looked at all this

00:35:19

and drank for himself for dinner, understood what

00:35:21

it was

00:35:22

and what it was this tool can be taken and

00:35:26

used not in order

00:35:29

to brainwash people, but

00:35:31

not in the same way as the oligarchs did,

00:35:35

so Putin of the Russian oligarchs,

00:35:40

especially those of the 90s, He

00:35:44

completely pacified this must be understood,

00:35:47

in fact, this act of pacification in

00:35:51

2003 was the imprisonment Khodorkovsky and this

00:35:54

was, by the way, an absolutely key moment

00:35:56

in the history of the development of Russia

00:36:00

because I don’t know whether your listeners know it or

00:36:03

not, but then the

00:36:05

Age of primitive accumulation ended in Russia

00:36:07

and

00:36:10

people like Khodorsky were faced with the question of how

00:36:13

else to increase their capital here. It seems that they have

00:36:16

already seized

00:36:20

why Our company is so cheap

00:36:24

compared to their Western counterparts and the

00:36:26

answer to the question Why the answer was

00:36:29

obvious, well, firstly, because they are

00:36:30

opaque inside them, God knows what’s

00:36:32

going on because you have to bribe the

00:36:34

topics with this, take it out, do it all

00:36:37

like this - secondly, because the country is

00:36:39

opaque and, accordingly,

00:36:42

Khodorkovsky’s idea was to increase the value of the

00:36:44

Yukos company in two ways, firstly, to

00:36:47

make it a transparent company.

00:36:50

And for this to streamline its financials, for

00:36:53

this it is necessary to streamline and make a

00:36:55

transparent country. Because if you

00:36:57

have to give bribes and live on

00:37:00

black cash, then You must agree that it is impossible to

00:37:02

create transparent companies at the same time,

00:37:04

and accordingly, when Khodorkovsky

00:37:07

started doing this

00:37:08

and when he said at Putin’s famous meeting

00:37:12

that everyone did it like this, everyone

00:37:15

started like this, but they had to finish it sometime,

00:37:18

then Putin didn’t like it terribly

00:37:21

because

00:37:22

it was going on then if you remember the idea of the story

00:37:26

was the acquisition of the

00:37:29

Northern Company Rosneft Company

00:37:31

Northern Oil at a price that the

00:37:35

Khodorkovskys and everyone else, to put it mildly,

00:37:37

considered overpriced, and since it

00:37:40

was a deal that, well, it was simply the

00:37:43

core of the Putin regime and

00:37:47

the core was filled with what would later be

00:37:50

called the pool, that is an informal

00:37:53

black budget from which

00:37:55

Putin spent everything, otherwise

00:37:57

he would be terribly offended.

00:38:00

Khodorkovsky ended up in jail and then

00:38:03

a huge number of Russian oligarchs

00:38:05

who had already ordered an audit of their

00:38:08

companies were going to go public,

00:38:11

everyone understood and Putin chose not to be

00:38:17

the ruler of a

00:38:18

prosperous economic power, but

00:38:23

to rulers which can imprison anyone

00:38:26

and take away anyone’s business, as soon as this

00:38:30

happens, then you accordingly

00:38:32

end up with oligarchies, then the classic

00:38:34

form in which they existed in Russia in the

00:38:36

90s And by the way, in which they

00:38:39

existed in Ukraine until recently,

00:38:42

literally until recently,

00:38:45

those same oligarchs which convert

00:38:49

their financial power into political power and

00:38:51

vice versa, having some kind of political

00:38:54

benefits. They receive

00:38:57

you privatized assets and so on and

00:38:59

so on. And in it a typical

00:39:03

new eastern society arose. The Ataman

00:39:06

told them a society where there is a Sultan and where

00:39:09

there are a large number of rich people who have

00:39:12

this property can be

00:39:15

taken away at any moment Because you

00:39:18

can always find a reason why and,

00:39:21

moreover, this reason exists for

00:39:23

which property can be taken away

00:39:25

In addition, Putin tried to create his

00:39:28

own oligarchs from all these

00:39:30

Rotenbergs Timchenko Well, I’m not saying

00:39:32

not because it’s already just even not an

00:39:34

oligarch’s wallet,

00:39:36

but these were oligarchs sewn from a

00:39:40

significantly different cloth than

00:39:42

Russian oligarchs like Abramovich and

00:39:45

Deripaska or than your oligarchs like

00:39:47

Firtysh or Kolomoisky because these

00:39:50

were not the people who, with their teeth, with

00:39:54

their brains, with their iron will,

00:39:56

paved the way to their wealth

00:39:59

people who were

00:40:02

assigned to this because they

00:40:07

played football with Putin or brought him

00:40:11

cups or washed him or

00:40:14

made him a bed or kneaded his back and so

00:40:18

on,

00:40:20

the masseur of his goltschaps

00:40:24

now plays a big role. That is, it

00:40:27

will be a traditional hunting

00:40:28

exercise, and accordingly

00:40:32

the question arises here

00:40:34

in the Russian oligarchs of the 90s, they

00:40:38

received something from Putin in the 2000s, but

00:40:41

the answer is of course yes. There, for

00:40:43

example, after the 2008 crisis, many of them

00:40:46

received a large amount of money to

00:40:49

save their enterprises. If you

00:40:52

look at what they lost compared

00:40:54

to what The answer they received was

00:40:57

that of course they lost much

00:40:58

more because these are people,

00:41:01

not that Khodorkovsky lost the Russian,

00:41:04

it’s clear that he lost, but relatively speaking, he

00:41:07

lost some Potanin, and he

00:41:10

lost the situation that the company

00:41:12

would have been organized in a completely different

00:41:15

way And it was worth if there were completely different

00:41:18

money and there would be a transparent company in a

00:41:23

transparent country, it simply cost

00:41:25

incredibly different money, respectively,

00:41:28

in the business climate in which Putin

00:41:31

began to work, this company realized that

00:41:35

it was worth less money, in addition to the fact that

00:41:38

it was constantly exposed to the danger

00:41:41

that

00:41:43

some somehow it will also eat up and works very

00:41:48

poorly because Potanin

00:41:52

understands that at any moment it can be

00:41:54

taken away

00:41:55

and as a result this company Well, it’s just not

00:41:58

that it pollutes the environment in the

00:42:01

same Norilsk

00:42:03

it works as if relatively speaking as

00:42:06

if tomorrow it is because this is a very

00:42:09

real possibility of what the

00:42:11

Norilsk people are doing in a non-crisisological way, they are committing an

00:42:13

environmental crime there, but not

00:42:16

only because they are structured that way, but

00:42:18

because, well, there is such a person, for example,

00:42:23

Dmitry the mason, a man who

00:42:26

built Domodedovo airport from scratch and who

00:42:29

invested huge amounts of money with him and

00:42:31

everything he he made money absolutely

00:42:32

brilliant

00:42:34

and then for a hundred years they can try to

00:42:37

take it away from him, you know what to do, the stone

00:42:39

stopped investing in the

00:42:41

Domodedovo airport, which there at the beginning

00:42:45

of the two thousandth is incomparable with grandson’s

00:42:51

because it became clear to the mason that the

00:42:54

more you invest in the airport

00:42:56

and the more attractive it is, the more

00:42:59

the likelihood that he

00:43:01

will be squeezed out one way or another or will have to pay himself

00:43:03

accordingly is what I mean. And that is exactly the

00:43:07

same as the Russian people. On the one

00:43:10

hand, the Russian voter is on the one hand, they

00:43:12

are hostages of

00:43:13

Putin, on the other hand, they are his

00:43:15

first victims. Although at the same time

00:43:18

he very often

00:43:21

fulfills Putin’s most disgusting things

00:43:26

oppresses others,

00:43:28

builds someone up and so on, especially since he just joins the

00:43:31

army and goes to fight in

00:43:34

Ukraine. Likewise, the Russian

00:43:37

oligarchs emphasize the first waves of the

00:43:39

first wave, from my point of view. Well,

00:43:44

if they are to blame for anything, then what is that

00:43:46

2003 year they didn’t all get together didn’t

00:43:49

say So let Khodorkovsky

00:43:52

be released or you yourself in all of us

00:43:56

then back in 2003 there could have been such

00:44:00

a conversation

00:44:01

after that he could only

00:44:04

endure it And what I mean is that

00:44:08

now it’s an insanely popular idea of all

00:44:12

Russian oligarchs Yes that there are

00:44:14

oligarchs there, just entrepreneurs,

00:44:15

make a list, they are all to blame, but

00:44:19

they are to blame if they are guilty of anything, here I am

00:44:21

saying that in 2003 they did not stand up for

00:44:24

Orlovsky’s move and did not say no, the guy will

00:44:28

not do that. Why didn’t they stand up? They

00:44:32

were afraid or decided that it would not affect them. They

00:44:36

definitely understood that this would affect them. I

00:44:39

remember the words that a friend

00:44:40

of mine, an oligarch, told me. That’s exactly the oligarch, not a

00:44:44

rich man, to the oligarch in 2003.

00:44:46

He said, by the way, he loved Khodorkovsky very much,

00:44:48

so he came at him with a bang with

00:44:52

the words They had some kind of personal

00:44:54

showdown that he so to speak, that is,

00:44:57

again 10 Next, let’s not forget the phrase, he let

00:44:59

us all down, now they’ve dispossessed

00:45:03

him, in the end they’ll dispossess us all, the

00:45:06

Russian oligarchs, unlike how can I

00:45:10

tell you, it’s

00:45:11

wonderful that the year was 1215,

00:45:15

today we have many stories of

00:45:17

English barons

00:45:20

who were

00:45:22

not at all the nicest people,

00:45:26

but of course they were Knights and they, as I

00:45:30

already said, treated the

00:45:32

enemy on the battlefield with a knightly attitude if he was also a

00:45:35

knight. But let’s say if he was a peasant,

00:45:37

then they believed that they could burn him

00:45:40

to the ground and that was then considered something... then like an

00:45:42

economic war, if he is a defeated

00:45:45

enemy, if he is a knight, you receive him

00:45:48

in your castle and enjoy his hearing and

00:45:52

accordingly behave with him in the

00:45:54

best possible way, but you expect his peasants to the

00:45:57

point that he felt

00:46:00

so these crows And even then the English

00:46:06

Kings are very much dependent from his

00:46:08

barons in the same way as Yeltsin, say,

00:46:11

depended on the oligarchs. Russian power in the

00:46:13

90s depended on the oligarchs

00:46:16

and in essence there were several kings

00:46:20

who simply owed their throne to the fact

00:46:24

that the

00:46:26

English king Henry 1 was de facto

00:46:30

elected by the barons instead of his son Stephen

00:46:33

Bloksky Although

00:46:37

Stefan Well, it’s clear that Stefan would of

00:46:40

course want his son to become king.

00:46:42

And this happened precisely because the barons

00:46:45

wanted their privileges, which

00:46:48

consisted in the fact that the king ruled

00:46:50

them only if he could of their

00:46:53

nature and which consisted in the fact that

00:46:56

within the framework of the feudal society, the barons

00:46:58

could rebel against the king if they

00:47:00

wanted to, but the king did not have the

00:47:03

right to execute them for this.

00:47:06

That is, this is simply a thing that many times

00:47:12

they rebelled against the same Stefan of Bulavsky and got away with it

00:47:15

before that they went on strike against William

00:47:18

Rufus against many modern ones from the

00:47:21

times actually, William the Conqueror,

00:47:23

moreover, against William the Conqueror

00:47:25

even when he was the Duke of Normandy. And

00:47:28

even when he was 16 years old, a

00:47:30

whole number of his vassals rebelled. And despite the fact

00:47:33

that William suppressed these Uprisings of these

00:47:35

vassals, he forgave them, they even sometimes

00:47:37

got tired again, that’s just how it was

00:47:39

customary

00:47:40

in modern times it somehow seems

00:47:43

surprising, it’s just how the

00:47:45

power of feudal Europe was structured,

00:47:46

and then King John, the

00:47:49

notorious

00:47:52

younger brother of Richard the Lionheart from the landless,

00:47:54

when he came to power Well, as always,

00:47:57

such a system breaks down when a classic

00:48:00

comes someone is crazy and

00:48:03

King John was a crazy person and the loser

00:48:06

against him was left by his own

00:48:08

nephew Arthur and King John brought

00:48:11

Arthur to prison with his own hands,

00:48:14

this shocked the barons

00:48:17

after that King John lost a

00:48:19

significant amount of his possessions in the

00:48:22

continental on the continent, that is, in

00:48:24

France,

00:48:25

which put the English in the defenses in a

00:48:28

very difficult situation because they

00:48:30

were at the same time by the Norman defenses

00:48:32

and now it was unclear who should bring

00:48:35

Mache itself to the French king or the

00:48:38

English king because they had

00:48:40

possessions there, this is on bad terms.

00:48:44

And when I began to show the kazoo,

00:48:48

then in general the king behaved incorrectly

00:48:49

in the end to end

00:48:52

this matter with the

00:48:53

English the barons gathered in the German

00:48:56

mentioned 1215, they adopted the Magna

00:49:00

Carta in which, in particular, it

00:49:03

was written that that very wonderful

00:49:06

phrase that

00:49:08

the baron has the right to rebel against the king And

00:49:11

the king does not have the right to execute him for this.

00:49:13

This was an unwritten rule, now the

00:49:16

rule is written.

00:49:18

And so the Magna Carta

00:49:21

is in fact, the foundation of

00:49:23

European democracy because

00:49:25

democracy does not begin with the fact that the

00:49:28

rednecks come to power, as a rule,

00:49:31

in the history of mankind initially

00:49:33

I am not talking about the current situation. But

00:49:36

initially the situation was not that the

00:49:39

pleevian power comes just

00:49:41

when the preps comes to power the

00:49:44

crowd votes, as a rule, very quickly

00:49:46

chooses itself as a dictator,

00:49:48

but the fact is that the

00:49:51

European absolutely unprincipled

00:49:53

defenses

00:49:54

got together

00:49:56

and said so guy and you don’t have the

00:49:59

right to kill us Even if we are against

00:50:01

you

00:50:03

and little by little this transformed into the

00:50:06

current Situation which is much

00:50:09

wider for much more different a

00:50:11

wide circle of people, only for the baron

00:50:14

we have the right to the ruler to be in

00:50:16

opposition, he does not have the right to imprison us for this,

00:50:20

and so, unlike the English Rams

00:50:22

in 1215, the Russian oligarchs in

00:50:26

2003 failed to do this,

00:50:29

and despite the fact that they were so and so with

00:50:32

they were unable to become enemies with hooves.

00:50:35

Just like you remember, San and Anna

00:50:38

also invited her to the kingdom and Dali

00:50:43

took the condition and tore the condition and the North,

00:50:46

who invited her to the kingdom,

00:50:48

could not defend the condition, so

00:50:50

the Russian 2003 could not

00:50:53

defend the condition then they Perhaps This

00:50:56

could have been done since then, we all pay the

00:50:59

bills, but to be honest, the

00:51:02

Russian oligarchs are not to blame for anything else. I do

00:51:04

n’t mean Tim Puppy now,

00:51:06

but those sharks that were born,

00:51:10

relatively speaking, the Russian Kolomoiskys.

00:51:14

And this does not mean that they will pay the

00:51:18

bills. for Putin We will all pay the

00:51:20

bills for Putin, all Russians Because

00:51:22

this is not a question of justice Yes, this is a

00:51:25

question here, this is how it will be arranged But

00:51:28

just in response to the question of whether

00:51:30

this is fair No the answer is no, it’s unfair,

00:51:33

but this is a rhetorical question By the way, there is a

00:51:41

survey about the Russian population Levada Center on which we can

00:51:45

trust there not to trust these issues,

00:51:47

but the mood of the Russians has sharply worsened;

00:51:51

Putin’s trust percentages have fallen

00:51:56

in just two months there. Of course, if

00:51:59

we take it as a whole, it’s not much, but in principle

00:52:01

their drop was noticeable against the background of the fact

00:52:05

that it was stable over the course of

00:52:07

six months of war there, that’s a plus, according to Google

00:52:11

trends and Yandex, I haven’t stopped searching the

00:52:15

Internet for queries; I

00:52:17

started looking more often for a nuclear strike,

00:52:20

a retreat, does this mean that all this

00:52:23

can increase everything, but I don’t know

00:52:25

whether it’s correct to say protest sentiments,

00:52:30

I don’t know the Internet is crowded with

00:52:34

partially mobilized people their mothers, is it

00:52:41

even possible for a

00:52:43

protest movement in Russia for me, even children, how

00:52:46

awkward it is to say this, but still no

00:52:49

Listen, Putin for 20 years

00:52:54

Well, he cleared the space thoroughly and

00:52:58

survived and burned it out and there asking Is it possible for a

00:53:05

large protest movement in Russia is something like

00:53:08

asking Is it possible that a protest

00:53:10

movement against the sorgon akatsky

00:53:15

protest movement is

00:53:17

a little different? Moreover, was it possible that the

00:53:22

protest movement that

00:53:24

I already mentioned below in England was possible in the 13th century

00:53:27

during the Magna Carta, the

00:53:30

answer is yes, only on the part of the English

00:53:32

barons,

00:53:33

and in this sense, No, I don’t believe in that

00:53:38

huge a number of Russians will take to the

00:53:41

streets against Putin because he

00:53:44

has an apparatus that is specifically

00:53:47

designed to cope with

00:53:49

this problem; he has 300 thousand

00:53:52

National Guard members who are excellently equipped,

00:53:54

unlike the people at the front, and

00:53:58

tens and hundreds of thousands more

00:54:03

FSB agents who are focused on solving

00:54:06

this problems Putin is not Yanukovych Yes,

00:54:10

this must be absolutely firmly understood and a

00:54:14

certain number of Russians went out and

00:54:16

go out into the streets, but it really

00:54:18

costs them a lot, taking into account the fact that

00:54:21

in Russia, unlike Iran, there is a

00:54:24

small share of what is called that

00:54:27

is, a small the share of youth in the population,

00:54:30

respectively Well, this is

00:54:34

useless, but the fact is

00:54:36

that the kingmakers of Sargon And in

00:54:40

conditions of increasing turbulence, they

00:54:43

will begin to get rid of sorgon. This is not

00:54:47

just probable, but in fact

00:54:49

almost inevitable. Because here we are already

00:54:53

talking about saving one’s own skin, at the

00:54:57

very end in the end I’ll summarize

00:55:02

Mr. Fedin was told on live television

00:55:05

that the West is not benefiting from the collapse of Russia, the collapse of Russia is not

00:55:08

beneficial from the collapse of Russia, that’s what is

00:55:11

beneficial to the West. What do you think he

00:55:14

sees as possible Russia with who at the helm who

00:55:19

will be legitimate with whom negotiations will be held there

00:55:24

will be no example That’s who it should be

00:55:28

if

00:55:30

those people are the person

00:55:32

who can

00:55:34

somehow return it all and begin to

00:55:36

really

00:55:38

agree to

00:55:40

end this war, find I will

00:55:43

now say a very pessimistic thing for Russia,

00:55:47

the times of the Marshal plan are gone

00:55:50

and the times when the West

00:55:54

defeated Germany conquered Germany and

00:55:58

understood that either Germany will remain an

00:56:03

eternal breeding ground for Nazism and there this

00:56:06

will be repeated the second third fourth time

00:56:09

and, moreover, it will be

00:56:11

used by the same Stalin

00:56:13

communists for their own purposes,

00:56:15

and these times have passed

00:56:19

and now the West. Moreover, he is

00:56:22

retiring. The only thing that is needed from any rogue country is

00:56:27

that it does not eat its neighbors

00:56:31

in its own the time when Saddam Hussein

00:56:35

got into Kuwait, he got sucked after

00:56:38

he got out of the match. We

00:56:41

know very well that he sat for a long time

00:56:43

after that and no one

00:56:45

bothered him because, well, that’s how

00:56:49

the world works now, and accordingly, it’s actually a

00:56:54

sad truth for Russia is

00:56:56

that the West

00:56:58

will arrange a Punished path

00:57:01

from which will be an example of Xi Jinping

00:57:04

Erdogan that there is no need to do this And what

00:57:07

if this Putin is just weakened and

00:57:10

dying people sitting inside Russia I am

00:57:13

afraid that the West will be quite happy with this And

00:57:18

the idea, moreover, naturally the West

00:57:20

will be happy with any absolutely any

00:57:23

Putin's successor, whoever he is and whatever he

00:57:26

does inside Russia, if he ends

00:57:28

the war and says everything. Ending with this,

00:57:31

of course, this means his turn. And that

00:57:36

the task of cutting out of this swamp and

00:57:39

the task of building a society in Russia to

00:57:44

modern Western standards will

00:57:47

lie entirely on Russians I think that

00:57:51

this is a problem that can possibly be

00:57:55

solved, I repeat again, not through

00:57:59

certainly not through the people,

00:58:01

but in After a few iterations, for example, the

00:58:05

worst thing could be like this, I’m

00:58:07

just specifically saying the worst thing: the web is being

00:58:10

replaced by a junta, a military junta of

00:58:13

unconditional

00:58:14

Prigozhin, Surovikino Zolotova and Kadyrov

00:58:18

And this juntus is being changed by some civilian

00:58:22

government from officials less well known

00:58:24

under Putin like Mishustin or

00:58:28

Sobyanin. And now they, just like what

00:58:32

happened under Gorbachev,

00:58:35

are launching the

00:58:38

process of democratization and

00:58:40

federalization, which is absolutely inevitable in this situation, which is also very important.

00:58:43

because if in Russia the regions do not receive

00:58:47

very serious independence,

00:58:50

including financial, which will force them to

00:58:52

toss and turn, otherwise simply no development

00:58:58

of Russia is possible in principle,

00:59:01

so of course the West

00:59:03

will certainly understand that the

00:59:07

ideal situation is a free

00:59:10

Democratic Russia that does not

00:59:12

threaten its neighbors because her

00:59:14

honor What to do on the internal front of

00:59:17

raising the standard of living of their subjects,

00:59:20

but I repeat once again from my point of view

00:59:22

this is not the primary task of the

00:59:24

West. Although it is certainly one of the

00:59:26

primary tasks of the West. I speak,

00:59:28

or rather, from the nightmare that

00:59:30

haunts them, this is precisely the Nightmare

00:59:34

that began after the overthrow Saddam

00:59:37

Hussein in Iraq because they thought that

00:59:41

to build a democratic cancer in Iraq there is

00:59:44

such a thing going on that mom won’t get upset and

00:59:47

imagine that the same thing will

00:59:49

happen in Russia and only every

00:59:52

province will have nuclear weapons,

00:59:54

and despite the fact that the borders between them are, in

00:59:57

principle, not defined that is, there

01:00:03

is also an internationally recognized border between Russia and Ukraine, and Putin

01:00:05

didn’t like it, but imagine in what

01:00:07

state the border is, so

01:00:09

to speak, between some

01:00:12

between Bashkiria and the surrounding regions,

01:00:16

but no, here are the Russians, here’s where everything

01:00:19

went wrong and nuclear weapons for everyone This is

01:00:22

just an absolutely, of course, nightmare

01:00:26

scenario I think for the Americans

01:00:31

Let’s hope for a different scenario I

01:00:34

really do

01:00:36

n’t want to let you go Although a

01:00:42

little of the good stuff I

01:00:45

definitely think it’s better next time

01:00:48

Especially since we have it

01:00:50

especially since We finally succeeded

01:00:52

talk not only about topics about what is

01:00:56

happening near Kherson

01:00:58

How soon the use will arrive

01:01:04

with you I wanted We have

01:01:18

Thank you very much Subscribe

01:01:26

[applause]

01:01:30

option program arguments All the

01:01:32

best goodbye Thank you goodbye

01:01:35

Thank you very much Thank you

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