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Alice Medvedeva, and of course, in addition to00:00:05
today’s visit of Nancy Pelosi00:00:08
to Taiwan, we’ll talk to you in00:00:12
good luck, from the end of August to the end of this00:00:15
month, our fellow citizens of Ukrainian00:00:18
refugees who are in European00:00:21
countries will begin to be recognized as tax00:00:24
residents, this means that people who00:00:28
continue to work remotely in00:00:31
Ukrainian companies or pay taxes00:00:34
in Ukraine will also pay taxes in00:00:37
the country where they are located, and in00:00:40
this case we are not only talking about those who00:00:42
work remotely00:00:47
and those people who00:00:50
they transfer money from Ukraine to a00:00:53
card, for example, the husband stayed in Ukraine,00:00:56
works, earns money and00:00:59
sends it to his wife, who is00:01:02
with the child, in a European country, and at00:01:06
the moment there are no transition periods for Ukrainians;00:01:12
183 days are in the territory of the country, you00:01:15
automatically become a tax00:01:18
resident00:01:19
about this problem experts say00:01:21
almost the very first day of the war in early00:01:24
June, the European business association issued a00:01:27
statement regarding the threat of double00:01:30
taxation of Ukrainians in Europe and00:01:33
called on the authorities to respond immediately,00:01:36
however, a month has passed and, as we see,00:01:39
nothing has changed; there are also precedents00:01:42
when European tax services00:01:45
ask questions Ukrainians regarding the00:01:48
payment of local taxes, a Kiev00:01:51
entrepreneur, she Musienko, who00:01:53
is now in Finland,00:01:55
says I fob my digital00:01:58
marketing is all online, I’ve00:02:00
been going to the Finnish tax office for three months now, they shrug their00:02:03
shoulders, they haven’t encountered this,00:02:05
they say 183 days and you’re automatically a00:02:08
tax resident, in general, let’s00:02:10
figure it out how and works according to00:02:14
European tax legislation,00:02:16
if a person is located in the territory of00:02:19
one of the European countries that00:02:23
implement their legislation,00:02:25
European tax legislation,00:02:28
if you are00:02:29
in this country for 183 days or more, this00:02:33
allows you to assign a00:02:35
person the status of a tax resident, which00:02:38
means that he must report on00:02:41
their income and will pay taxes on this income,00:02:44
and this may soon00:02:46
become a problem for Ukrainian refugees00:02:49
who left for Europe at the very beginning00:02:51
of the war. 183 days expire for them just00:02:55
sou live at the end of August and gave the00:02:58
potential number of00:03:00
taxpayers in Europe at the expense of00:03:03
Ukrainians will increase the head of00:03:05
the association for international00:03:07
employment, Vasily Voskoboynik,00:03:09
says it is clear that00:03:12
those who get a job there are required to pay taxes in Europe; there are00:03:14
no questions about them at all; they00:03:16
pay from the first month of employment,00:03:19
but there are other categories; firstly, those00:03:21
Ukrainians who continue to00:03:23
work remotely in Ukraine and such hundreds of thousands00:03:26
they already pay taxes and social00:03:28
contributions in our country, but in theory00:03:31
European tax authorities can issue invoices,00:03:33
although this will not happen immediately, but at the beginning of00:03:36
next year in the first quarter, and00:03:38
citizens are required to fill out declarations to00:03:40
report income for the previous year,00:03:42
that is, the risk of double taxation and00:03:46
in Ukraine and in Europe, secondly, taxes00:03:49
can be charged even to those refugees00:03:51
who do not work in Ukraine00:03:54
but regularly receive money00:03:55
transfers to bank cards,00:03:57
for example from relatives and friends, and00:04:00
worst of all, they can be withdrawn from00:04:03
social assistance or even forced to00:04:05
return it already the funds received, and00:04:08
even more Ukrainians fall into this category,00:04:10
because almost everyone who received00:04:14
temporary asylum status in the00:04:17
European Union also received00:04:19
social assistance, and many in these same00:04:22
countries also pay for social00:04:25
housing, while those who remained in Ukraine, as00:04:28
I already said, were their fathers and Husbands or00:04:30
other relatives are trying to00:04:36
help women with children who have left Ukraine with additional financial assistance,00:04:39
and regarding this incident, that00:04:42
Ukrainian refugees, if they receive00:04:45
money on their cards or if they continue to00:04:48
work remotely in Ukraine, will have to00:04:50
pay additional taxes in the00:04:53
European Union countries where it has long been rooted this00:04:56
tax legislation will be00:04:58
somehow not provided for at the beginning of June in the00:05:01
European business association00:05:03
explained the obligation to pay taxes, a00:05:05
contribution to state insurance00:05:07
may arise in Europe both for the00:05:09
employees themselves who work remotely and00:05:12
for Ukrainian employers.00:05:14
Ukraine has agreements on00:05:16
social security with some00:05:18
EU countries granting exemption00:05:21
from paying social contributions if00:05:23
our employer sends an employee,00:05:25
for example, on a business trip, but in most00:05:28
cases, the temporary stay of Ukrainians in00:05:30
Europe is not currently registered as a00:05:32
business trip, so there is no00:05:34
procedure for exemption from paying00:05:36
social contributions to the host country, and00:05:38
as lawyer Rostislav00:05:41
Krovi says already now in some countries00:05:43
they are trying00:05:45
to fix the tax00:05:47
resident status for Ukrainian refugees without00:05:50
waiting for the expiration of00:05:53
183 days. We receive such signals in00:05:56
particular from Poland and where Ukrainians are already00:05:59
informed about the need to prepare to00:06:02
fill out an income statement and pay00:06:05
taxes, while expert Vasily00:06:07
Voskoboinik adds many people argue00:06:09
so who and where will find out about my income and00:06:12
salary if I don’t go to any tax office myself,00:06:15
but finding out about the transfer of00:06:18
funds to Ukrainian bank cards is00:06:20
not a problem for European tax authorities,00:06:22
plus in many EU countries there is a00:06:25
system of indirect control of income through00:06:27
expenses, that is, if for example you00:06:30
pay for a rented apartment or make00:06:33
expensive purchases using your card,00:06:36
you are asked where the money is from and whether taxes have been paid or on00:06:39
them, if you spend previous00:06:42
savings you need to present a certificate from the00:06:44
Ukrainian tax office and copies of the declaration00:06:47
confirming the origin of the funds and00:06:49
taxes paid, if not you will have to00:06:52
pay taxes on a new one it is clear that there00:06:57
is no total control down to checks from restaurants, plus it is unknown how00:06:59
well verification will work for a00:07:01
multimillion-dollar army of Ukrainian00:07:03
refugees00:07:04
if the topic of illegal00:07:07
receipt of social assistance also comes up, these payments in the best00:07:10
case can be withdrawn and in the worst case they will require00:07:12
everything to be returned and a fine will be paid by00:07:15
economist Mikhail Kukhar himself on his00:07:16
facebook page drew attention to00:07:18
another important moment during August00:07:21
in the lives of 6 million Ukraine who,00:07:24
together with their children, ended up as00:07:26
refugees or simply labor migrants; there will be an00:07:28
irreversible event that will00:07:31
end 183 days of their stay and with and00:07:35
for most of the 27 countries that gave00:07:38
they will receive asylum, they will become tax00:07:40
residents, this will happen00:07:41
regardless of whether they received00:07:44
refugee status, a humanitarian visa, meaning00:07:47
temporary asylum, a work or business00:07:50
visa or a residence document, also00:07:53
the cook writes that our refugees open00:07:55
bank accounts in European wine00:07:57
institutions, replenishing them with cash,00:08:00
the latter is extremely important suspicious,00:08:03
but people cannot transfer funds from their00:08:05
Ukrainian card, according to00:08:07
Ukrainian legislation, since it00:08:09
was prohibited for individuals on00:08:12
cross-border payments and you cannot00:08:15
transfer money from your account to your00:08:17
own account, which is the only type of00:08:20
transaction other than a loan for which you have00:08:23
There are no tax obligations in00:08:25
Europe, banking secrecy, if tax00:08:28
authorities have not existed for many years, even00:08:31
in Switzerland, the origin of the funds00:08:33
will have to explain this is your personal00:08:35
savings, then provide tax00:08:37
returns for previous years from Ukraine for the00:08:39
entire replenishment amount, and in some00:08:42
banks they will ask you for more customs00:08:44
declarations for the00:08:45
legal import of cash, the fact that00:08:48
the document will not be covered in some places by the amount of your00:08:51
first base for taxation in the EU,00:08:54
also arguments that this is the money of the00:08:57
husband’s father’s brother’s matchmaker that was00:09:00
transferred to you from Ukraine will not work in this00:09:04
case, the Europeans may demand to00:09:06
see their declarations, and if you00:09:09
you will say that theoretically, of course, we can00:09:11
provide declarations, but later they will00:09:14
answer you ok, but first, still pay00:09:17
taxes and then when you have already presented00:09:20
the documents, they will recalculate you; a00:09:23
Ukrainian military servant00:09:24
whose family has been in Germany since the beginning of the war00:09:27
said the following: my salary is00:09:29
now good, about 125 thousand hryvnia and00:09:33
money at the front is actually not needed,00:09:35
so I tried to transfer everything to my wife and child,00:09:38
but she asked not to put00:09:40
money on the card, supposedly00:09:42
they monitor the receipt and can withdraw social00:09:44
assistance and even stop paying for00:09:47
housing, also some countries may not00:09:50
consider joint income if the wife is00:09:53
currently living separately from a husband in00:09:55
Ukraine, a wife there in Germany in France00:09:58
and the money that will be on the card with the00:10:02
woman, let’s assume, will be considered as her00:10:04
personal income and she will need to00:10:07
pay taxes on it, and if a person00:10:10
spends, let’s say, Ukrainian savings00:10:13
that they brought with them to Europe in00:10:16
cash or on the card and at the same time00:10:18
applied for social assistance, that they00:10:21
could not only withdraw this social assistance from them,00:10:23
but also ask them to return everything00:10:26
paid back, and earlier we asked a00:10:29
tax consultant if00:10:31
maybe there were some concessions and nuances, that’s00:10:35
what he answered between Ukraine and countries00:10:37
do not have a system for automatically00:10:40
informing about the income of citizens and the00:10:42
receipt of funds in bank accounts,00:10:44
at least for now, in the00:10:47
future something may be invented, that00:10:49
is, it is easy and quick to obtain information00:10:51
about the movement of funds in the cash accounts of00:10:53
Ukrainian citizens in Ukrainian00:10:56
European banks government agencies will not be able to do this; this is00:10:58
possible only if the00:11:01
tax service has a specific interest in a specific person and00:11:04
begins an investigation, and then a00:11:06
request can be sent through00:11:08
international legal assistance channels to Ukraine00:11:10
to obtain information as part of the00:11:12
investigation, and the possibility of00:11:14
this cannot be excluded. one hundred percent,00:11:15
at least two conditions can be named00:11:18
when a person’s income can attract the00:11:21
attention of government agencies: 1 person00:11:24
receives benefits in the European Union countries00:11:26
have their own system of checking the accuracy of00:11:28
information that the recipients of benefits provide about themselves,00:11:31
of course, everyone is00:11:33
not completely checked, but from time to00:11:35
time you can get caught in the net in00:11:38
addition, in many cases, when applying for00:11:40
benefits, they separately clarify if there are00:11:42
bank accounts in another country and what00:11:44
amounts there are, and if you say that yes, and00:11:47
accounts in Ukraine, this will be recorded00:11:50
and then from time to time you will be00:11:52
required to provide a statement of the00:11:53
flow of funds on this account the second00:11:56
person makes regular expensive00:11:58
purchases, such attention is paid immediately,00:12:02
therefore, expensive purchases in, for example, the00:12:03
purchase of a home, it is recommended00:12:06
to make an account in which there is00:12:08
money of origin, which you can00:12:10
prove and present certificates of payment00:12:13
of taxes, if the person00:12:16
receives benefits and makes expensive purchases,00:12:18
then it is likely that that it will come to the00:12:20
attention of the relevant authorities in the00:12:21
countries, it becomes very large,00:12:24
there are other nuances that00:12:27
lawyer Ivan Mari Nyuk talks about, the00:12:29
center of vital interests is taken into account, the totality of00:12:32
economic social ties of an00:12:34
individual with the country, family work,00:12:37
business, and so on, location of00:12:38
permanent housing, citizenship in other00:12:41
words each case is special and requires an00:12:43
individual approach, it is also worth00:12:45
paying attention to Fig further00:12:46
explanation from the tax authorities of the host country,00:12:49
for example, during the peak of the00:12:51
coronavirus pandemic, many people could not00:12:53
leave the countries of their temporary00:12:54
residence, some states did not00:12:57
take into account the days of forced stay00:12:59
for the purpose of acquiring00:13:02
tax resident status,00:13:04
economist Aleksey Kuch suggests that00:13:06
in the current situation,00:13:08
existing tax mechanisms can, of course,00:13:11
fail if you simply give00:13:13
tax preferences to Ukrainian00:13:15
refugees immediately on these benefits of00:13:17
setting up tax minimization schemes that are00:13:20
no longer poor and unhappy,00:13:23
so you need to look for a new solution00:13:25
taking into account the military realities why00:13:28
this the topic is not raised by our authorities and00:13:31
whether anything will have time to change by the beginning of the00:13:32
mass transition of our refugees,00:13:34
European tax residency is an00:13:36
open question, so these are the things,00:13:39
my friends, if you or your friends are00:13:41
now in Europe, or in a00:13:45
country where the same rules apply00:13:49
183 day of stay and that's it, you are a tax00:13:52
resident, be sure to show them this00:13:55
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