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Альфа
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[music]
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Good afternoon my friends As you
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noticed, this time in our country
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studio I’m talking to you alone, no
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usual fuss, no smoking samovar, no
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kettle, one glass all this because
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today we will not receive guests and we
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ourselves will go with you to guests
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We will go to visit a very interesting
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person and in a very interesting company
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we will go as part of a group
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headed by Ivan Vladimirovich Shumakov, this is the
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founder and commander of the Team A fund,
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who has done a lot in the zone over the
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past 2 years,
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in addition to diluting our
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old man’s already team We will take with
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us a young, talented, very
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charming girl, she was born in
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Kirov but did not stay there. She is
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politically active and quite
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often is in the area of
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scarcity. We can go with such a
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person who needs no
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introduction, and we will probably start with this phrase
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when of this dacha, let's move
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to his
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[music]
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[applause]
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[music]
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you know, a lot of people of
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different ages are watching us, that is, Well, all of this
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has been united by a fund of ordinary people. Partially
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at the front, partially in that, everyone helps and
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when we said that you allocated time in your schedule
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so that in the
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new you do not need any introductions, you are a
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Hero of the Soviet Union, you are the creator of the
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group, and you are the person who,
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in fact, defended the Soviet Union and Russia,
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the main question is
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one: How do you feel about the fact that for
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all needs, in an amicable way, it is now
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necessary to either restore The Soviet Union
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is to assemble
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some other structure that will be
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similar to it, you see, the Union, in my opinion, ca
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n’t be
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assembled now
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because all the former Soviet Republics they
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don’t care about
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Freedom, they are unlikely to gather now,
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although there are
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interstate structures Where
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we gather where
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we discuss the common goals of the task so further
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this all exists But to unite on
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the basis on which the
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Soviet Union united in the second
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year of this, it seems to me that it is unlikely that we will be able to
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do this once again. The only thing is that
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we must, of course, do everything so that
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all these former Soviet Republics do not
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turn into our enemies, as they are
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now Ukraine, for example, ska This is a
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big and difficult task, although in my
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opinion, here I am. Please excuse me
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for my language. They can take me for this matter. But I’m
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afraid that everything was peaceful and calm with
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everyone else.
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I’ll give you one example, 3 years
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ago I
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was invited to go to Victory Day in
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Kyrgyzstan, I flew
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there, which means I was
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received by the chairman of the KGB and he asked for me,
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he says that there
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will be a large tent for n guests and so
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on,
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you take a place for me. Next to you, I’m
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good. I’ll come and take a place.
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I’ve taken a place here. drew
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attention to the anthem they started
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playing, naturally we all stood
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in front of him, just in front of him sits a
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Colonel General in rank,
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so the chairman gently patted him on the shoulder,
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he plays, he must stand up, he shouted, he
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says, you stood up, and I
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’ll sit me down, even this fact, I’ll
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tell you straight out,
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alerted a military man. to
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those who are in formation, I emphasize
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to salute, that is, to put a hand
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to the leader, this is how it’s
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supposed to be according to all the regulations, I don’t know what
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their regulations are, but what struck me was that
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our ambassador means after
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everything is finished, he says, there you will find my car
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there, my wife is sitting in the car, sit in this
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car I want you to go our
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embassy with you just the embassy
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wants to talk I say
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Okay, here’s a detail I, as
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a result of the conversation, just drew
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serious attention to the 6 million population of Kyrgyzstan 6 million
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the composition of the embassy of the United States of
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America 2600 people we have parity with America
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450 diplomatic technical staff of the
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United States here is exactly the same number of
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ours there 450 ishe Well yes, that is 2,600
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people because we have almost 150 million people there
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they have 250 million inhabitants a
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newspaper correspondent came to the hotel to see
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me one day, which means here’s an interview Well, I
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was warned in advance It’s like ours week
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the newspaper was like this I don’t know it
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comes out once a month or once a week I didn’t
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ask but he brought me one
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copy
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our delegation led by our
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president
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Vladimi was there two American
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diplomats are standing
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photographs with posters on their chests Putin
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get out of
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Kyrgyzstan I’m so I
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was stunned if this happened here, I
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guarantee it means these diplomats
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were already at the top because this is
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the airfield that was at the
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request of the American side when they were
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still present, I emphasize they
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were present in the Democratic
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Republic of
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Afghanistan, but naturally, under our
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certain pressure, they announced to the
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Americans that everything
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was closed for work
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Why are they climbing there? It turns out that it’s in the
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mountains of Kyrgyzstan. There’s uranium, there
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’s gold, that’s why they’re climbing there so
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intensively, and so on, so you
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have to keep your ears open here Gennady
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Nikolaevich, another
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question the guys are just very keenly
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interested in: finding themselves in combat
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circumstances now, ordinary civilian
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guys, I’m talking about the mobilized about
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volunteers, the guys
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are interested in the history of the organization
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that you created, that is, I’m talking about the
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group. And we understand that you have already told a lot of
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people about this,
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but now the questions will be
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practically practical. That is, how in
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general in the seventy-seventh year,
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give or take the first selection, the situation is
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similar then there was practically nothing then
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and we had to assemble a group from scratch
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because there was an operational
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need to fight
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terrorist manifestations and now
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when it started there is also a moment when
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ordinary people with average training or
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no training find themselves in a war zone
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that you, as a very
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experienced person, can recommend to those people
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who, after being drafted, found themselves
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Well,
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firstly, why was the decision suddenly made to
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create this
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unit?
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took place in
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Munich on the territory of
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Germany of the terrorist organization
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Black September the entire sports
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delegation were athletes,
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coaches, massage therapists There and so on All of
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Israel were practically
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destroyed, they prepared very carefully
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for this
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in the service
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personnel of the Olympic village, then they
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facilitated the penetration of the
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main forces into the territory where the first
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the shooting took place of these athletes
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from Israel That's what they were afraid of this first
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circumstance the second circumstance
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on the eve of the eighty-third
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year
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Tue in the seventy-third year,
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which means at the Vnukovo
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2 airport our large representative
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delegation met with the same large
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government delegation from the
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GDR and among those who met
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at there were
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40 people on board, the
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flight was from
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Moscow to Bryansk, when approaching Bryansk,
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that means they announced that they had to
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fly abroad, and so on, the commander
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turned the plane around in the air and landed
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it at Vnukovo 2, where just
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this
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meeting took place. And then the operation took place there.
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This epic was naturally
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observed by the head of the Moscow
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Directorate, General Colonel Alidin
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Viktor
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Ivanovich, and the actions were mainly
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carried out by the platoon of the
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Dzerzhinsky Division; there was nothing else.
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Well, the operation went well, two
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were killed by
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snipers, two were convicted, then
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later, and so on, but naturally
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returning the
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Committee reported to the
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chairman Vladimirovich how all this happened,
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and so on. And this circumstance
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prompted the second question and the second part
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of the question. The answer to that
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period of order or instruction was that the
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unit was staffed
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only from existing KGB officers who would have
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served for at least 2 years and
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had proven
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themselves positively, and the third the question was
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simpler for us in this regard. Why is it simpler
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because we had the opportunity and
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time to carry out educational and training
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work for us as part of the VNO defense
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unit? After all, it grew like Jah
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in 1977,
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in 1977, there was the first
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increase. Why was I appointed
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then? the composition of the units
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was a staff of 30 units only And here
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the units were increased to 64 units
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almost twice
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year by 100
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units and in the ninety-
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first year the unit already had a staff
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of 500 people,
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so this is how it grew, but I
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emphasize once again we had the opportunity to
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constantly train personnel wherever
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necessary, on airplanes, buildings,
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premises, and so on, and we trained until we worked
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up a
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sweat there was a direct relationship, I’m
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speaking frankly, I always conveyed to the
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personnel
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the idea that we are dealing with an enemy who is
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no worse prepared than
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us, if you are prepared worse than him, then you will
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die. And if you are
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better prepared, then you will emerge victorious in
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this fold. Consider whether you need life
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or not needed, if needed, then do it
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as you need to do, train yourself and
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so
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on, they don’t have such an opportunity, they
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go through, I would say, a course for a young
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fighter at the training ground, they gave him a shot
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here and there, come here,
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but the most important thing is that they don’t act
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alone, they act a unit
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that has been put together
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is a single team that must be united,
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that is, he clearly knew that if he went first,
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then he must be sure that the second one
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will follow him, he will definitely be in a
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critical situation in case of This all
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should be worked out automatically,
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which is unlikely to create a deal in combat conditions
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you know, I’ll tell you this, this is a
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fighting Brotherhood based on survival,
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it really works now because
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people They don’t just want to survive, they
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want to win, and those who came there
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by chance are now also under
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contract, thinking that now we’ll just
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earn money and leave, but this is not the
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place where you can just make money, that
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is, here you need an ideological
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component and financially it is already
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secondary, it comes already let’s say, since
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in addition, just a motive, those who
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come for money die quickly, those
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who come specifically to fight, they are
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really an
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alloy from
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as Alexander Vasilyevich Vorov bequeathed to me and Vorov.
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This is it the main thing is for all the
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other personnel. Of course, I
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emphasize that he needs to independently
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work on himself very, very seriously,
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if he was not an artilleryman, but he
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became an artilleryman, which means
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improving how to use this
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sight and to hit the target not from the
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fifth shot of a shell, but from the
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first this is the main task,
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and for this you need to work on yourself
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constantly; such an opportunity to have a
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break means think, guess, train,
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and so on. All the more so when the control
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from above is so strict, and so on, in the form of
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these
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Drones, here you are correctly speaking here
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already. Everyone should think for themselves. yourself, in
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fact, in the east
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Putting your butt
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on But now let’s ask a question, otherwise I
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interrupted you with a question of what
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kind this is the very motivation of people,
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it is generally clear, but when you started
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serving, I know you have a very difficult
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biography That is, you are poor
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you lived really poorly You lived hard and as you
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know, here in Russia people got out themselves, they
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got out on their own, that is, this is how it happened
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so essentially an ordinary guy from the
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Molotov region, if I’m not mistaken
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then now this is the Perm Territory That is,
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like an ordinary guy from the village he became a
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colonel, first Alpha and then
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completely deputy head of the seventh
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directorate and major general. That is, how were
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you able to build your life so that
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you were useful and made such a
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career? Well, this is in my
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opinion, if a person has
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not
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experienced serious
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difficulties in life, then he won’t understand much in life,
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and the most important thing is that there is a price in this life,
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yes,
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I went to work at a factory, I was 14
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years old, I had a family of six people to feed, I
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worked alone as an apprentice electrician, then as an
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electrician, you can’t choose the
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same place to work there. made an electrician on duty For
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more than five years, this is a
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week in the morning, the second week in the evening, the
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third week in the night, and this wheel has
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been spinning for 5 years, a
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young guy.
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I’m still almost a teenager. Yes, weeks in
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the evening means you can’t go to the cinema where
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you won’t go at night either.
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the most difficult thing is that they build
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character, I would say, that’s when they
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overcome these
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difficulties, the cold in
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winter, there is no firewood
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in the neighbors, or some or others have
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grandparents there, their grandparents left for a while.
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In general, all this then the work
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team,
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it educates them very well,
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went there quickly stat to they do
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n’t like a place with a method everywhere, they don’t like a hack.
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This circumstance is the same thing about
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pushing, but then public work
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was elected to the Komsomol organization of the plant,
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naturally, this is without interruption, which the second
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circumstance means they made the
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boy a member, made a
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member of the factory committee of
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Trade Unions, this also
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leaves its mark in a certain way,
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and so on.
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Everything Then I was still cheerfully leading the initial
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watering circle, and I’m sorry, then I was
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conducting classes at a factory with boys and young
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people from the
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Komsomol. So, all of this
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together, it somehow gave, and the second
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circumstance was that I was very lucky in my life, I was
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very lucky to have good
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people
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everywhere and in civilian
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conditions and in military conditions, and so
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on And the third circumstance I have
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always considered and still consider to be my main
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educator. This was my mother, my father was a
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reserve officer, so for 2
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years he was drafted into the active army and
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he never returned home after that,
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although he remained already healthy. so
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yes, it’s all like this, I’ll give you
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an example Nikolai Fedorovich Pechenkin was the
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master assigned to me, he brought
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me to the level in the film, if you saw
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the film, he’s there at the box office saying you
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’ll wait for me there,
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but in reality it was not like that in
00:23:31
reality it was he says in the old days
00:23:34
when the spacer was put on the category,
00:23:41
two bottles of
00:23:43
vodka were not the two of us together, it was like a movie, the three of us adj
00:23:46
what the
00:23:48
hell and we drank two bottles of
00:23:52
vodka and I don’t even remember how I got home
00:23:56
at
00:23:59
night very early I woke up very early.
00:24:02
My first thought was how to deal with
00:24:07
ma, it’s a shame, it’s a shame Of course the test was
00:24:11
completely different Well, then I figured it out, I think it’s
00:24:14
early somehow about going to
00:24:17
work then maybe Well, the day will pass
00:24:20
somehow, everything will be easier, nothing like that,
00:24:24
she, too,
00:24:26
keep an eye out, come on, I’ll
00:24:31
remember this conversation for the rest of my
00:24:32
life, I’ll remember now,
00:24:35
she said Son, you are the only one
00:24:39
working, you earn money, you
00:24:41
can drink it away, it’s your money,
00:24:44
you earned it, but in this case there will be
00:24:48
no bread on the table.
00:24:50
I will be
00:24:54
those and
00:25:00
No.
00:25:01
Vo apologized to her, but I remembered these words
00:25:06
in my life.
00:25:07
Education was two classes,
00:25:10
church. -parish school, but one
00:25:14
official of a fairly high level, he
00:25:18
is Anna Petrovna, we should switch roles with you. If
00:25:21
you would take my place, and
00:25:24
then I have here for your
00:25:30
life experience, you can’t drink it, not a
00:25:34
prog, very
00:25:36
strong Nikolaevich The question is what it is here
00:25:39
we are now gathered at the table with you
00:25:42
at the head, in fact, three
00:25:45
generations you built the group And you built
00:25:49
the security of the Soviet Union I was born in
00:25:58
our name, respectively, Vokor she is
00:26:02
very young, that is, how
00:26:07
important is continuity in your opinion, that is, the
00:26:09
transfer of experience from the older generation
00:26:13
to
00:26:14
the young I have always believed and believe that
00:26:18
this must be done. Here we
00:26:29
have it, it
00:26:32
works - this is our public
00:26:37
international status
00:26:39
international we have a large number of
00:26:43
registered
00:26:46
schools these schools are named after the
00:26:50
names of deceased
00:26:53
employees there is
00:26:57
a sound and so on there are a lot of
00:27:00
sponsored schools in total if
00:27:03
you add up all this, it will be
00:27:06
somewhere around 4 schools, not only in
00:27:09
Moscow, but also on the periphery of the distant
00:27:11
periphery, even. That is, I, for example, am
00:27:14
deeply convinced that people who can
00:27:19
say a weighty word, they should
00:27:23
definitely engage in the patriotic
00:27:25
education of the younger generation,
00:27:28
nothing else as the transfer of life and
00:27:31
operational and any kind of military
00:27:34
experience and so on to the younger generation of the
00:27:38
second in schools. In my opinion, there should
00:27:41
be mandatory military
00:27:43
training, initial military
00:27:46
training, so that a person at least really
00:27:49
understands what a Mosin rifle is,
00:27:51
what a Kalashnikov is, what a pistol is,
00:27:57
what a pistol is
00:28:00
Imagining when I was studying and went to school In the
00:28:04
forty-first year of the beginning of the Great
00:28:06
Patriotic War, there was a wounded PTO Captain at our school,
00:28:11
we
00:28:14
even fired from military weapons Yes from military
00:28:17
weapons So this must be
00:28:20
done Not because we are fighting and so
00:28:24
on This in principle, for the state it is
00:28:27
necessary to do
00:28:29
as they say, there is a proverb Brego God
00:28:33
take care in this situation that is now
00:28:37
developing in the world, we can’t
00:28:40
get away from us, we need to either win or
00:28:42
[ __ ], there can be two ways out of this situation,
00:28:46
but definitely We, I still
00:28:49
think, must
00:28:52
win this e
00:28:55
question at that time when
00:28:58
we had such a person Boris Nikolayevich
00:29:00
Yeltsin there was an apology in the
00:29:03
Constitution That is, we now do not have an
00:29:06
ideology officially, yes, that is, it is written
00:29:09
that there is no ideology How do you feel about
00:29:12
this ideology should always
00:29:16
be, it can be Communist, it
00:29:20
can be capitalist this is
00:29:25
an ideology of the state,
00:29:29
frankly I’m
00:29:31
speaking to myself now, we don’t have a
00:29:36
clear
00:29:37
program at the end of which there is a
00:29:40
specific goal. That’s what we should
00:29:42
strive for. Yes, to raise the standard of living of
00:29:45
people, I’m
00:29:47
sorry, to increase the age status
00:29:51
there, this is the sun, it’s clear these are not the goals of the chapters, these are
00:29:57
intermediate ones the main goal is what
00:29:59
if, after all, in the Soviet
00:30:02
Union one of the veneers told us that the
00:30:04
current generation will live under
00:30:07
communism, then the goal was to strive
00:30:11
to build communism and so on. And
00:30:14
now we have a global goal. What is
00:30:17
what we should all strive for and so on
00:30:20
Yes, here it is yet. In my opinion, the
00:30:22
goal has not been formulated. On February 22, the
00:30:26
film Commander was released. How did you perceive the idea
00:30:30
that they decided to create a film about you and
00:30:33
generally watched the idea? I took this
00:30:35
extremely negatively. I said that there is
00:30:37
no need to make films. When was the first time to
00:30:40
the producer came to me, he is also the screenwriter of this
00:30:45
film One of the screenwriters Timur
00:30:49
Timofeevich
00:30:51
Khvan Nuno, he later came more than once
00:30:55
Then this is how you came to the dacha,
00:30:58
he also shot the first film, this is white snow
00:31:01
about a
00:31:02
skier, a three-time Olympic
00:31:05
champion, now he is the chairman of the
00:31:08
Russian Federation of Sports.
00:31:11
I showed this film on that TV, but not the
00:31:15
poor one, who was at home, someone watched the film,
00:31:18
of course I liked it, but I tried
00:31:20
to prove it to him, but there already, starting from where
00:31:24
the film is from a meeting with the king of Norway,
00:31:29
the king of Norway
00:31:31
[music]
00:31:33
what And asks to lead the
00:31:36
Norwegian ski team in as a
00:31:39
coach, but I liked the film very good,
00:31:42
and the film commander, did you watch
00:31:45
it, how is it for you?
00:31:47
Well, I told him,
00:31:51
I know what you did, you made me
00:31:59
uncomfortable, it’s very inconvenient in this
00:32:03
regard, he also proves that the
00:32:07
time now is such a
00:32:10
patriotism
00:32:13
of patriotism Well,
00:32:16
someone loves a
00:32:19
film about patriotism and
00:32:26
someone reads the first
00:32:29
version why they chose Operation Thunder in the film.
00:32:32
I don’t know, they didn’t consult with me.
00:32:36
By the way, I sincerely tell you that I never
00:32:39
interfered in anything. Where they filmed. How
00:32:43
they filmed what they filmed. I didn’t know. and I immediately
00:32:47
told me, for God’s sake, don’t stand up
00:32:50
with a mustache yourself and act, and so on, they
00:32:54
showed me the film for the first time when it
00:32:57
was already completely assembled and ready to
00:33:00
go on screen, that’s when they
00:33:02
showed it to me F Before that, I didn’t know
00:33:06
anything. I didn’t see Well, there
00:33:08
was just information on the Internet that you personally
00:33:10
took part in the filming and
00:33:12
controlled the process, you didn’t even film it once, I didn’t see it, I don’t
00:33:16
know, so on I’m
00:33:19
talking about this completely honestly, I did
00:33:21
n’t interfere anywhere, the
00:33:23
only one who came to me was
00:33:26
Zaitsev, who came more than once chief harpist and so
00:33:29
on, but he sometimes asked what
00:33:33
interests him, I naturally did not
00:33:35
refuse this. And to eat
00:33:38
there, how can you evaluate the work of
00:33:42
Kirill Zaitsev’s acting?
00:33:45
Well done, he played very well, he played very well.
00:33:50
Well done to us, the only difference is that
00:33:53
taller people are taller became lower by 3 cm
00:33:58
was 173 became 170 kus and he has
00:34:03
186, that’s the difference And so everything else is a
00:34:06
gift, there is some similarity,
00:34:10
but by watching the film you can understand
00:34:14
that you are negotiating clearly and correctly
00:34:16
How do you manage to do this, you can
00:34:18
share some
00:34:20
secret everyday
00:34:24
experience When you know that a person needs
00:34:29
to speak
00:34:33
more simply,
00:34:38
these are one of the artists who is brilliant with the
00:34:41
head of this ban
00:34:50
[music]
00:34:58
the others did not interfere.
00:35:01
Sometimes I sincerely say I just wanted to speak
00:35:06
Russian well Express and end
00:35:09
there but it was impossible to carry out the
00:35:14
New is
00:35:16
always put the basis of the task is to persuade
00:35:19
the criminal to refuse the
00:35:26
crime to fly out negotiations to prepare the
00:35:29
conditions for the force phase of
00:35:32
the operation,
00:35:35
all the specialist psychologists of the world
00:35:40
testify that at the moment of taking
00:35:44
hostages, those who do this
00:35:50
commit a psychological state that
00:35:52
is at the peak of human possibility
00:35:55
and It somewhere continues to
00:36:07
carry out are ready for anything 100% then when
00:36:11
the sun is
00:36:12
indifferent to the horse in the second case it is convenient And
00:36:16
for this it is necessary to
00:36:18
carry out although in management
00:36:28
this must also be done but not always yet I
00:36:32
wanted to ask if it’s true that the
00:36:34
rescued children starred in this film Yes,
00:36:37
as
00:36:40
parents you can you with them
00:36:42
they talked about what emotions they
00:36:44
experienced when Lo spoke to them, I
00:36:47
just met at the cinema in October. A
00:36:50
large group came with them. Well,
00:36:53
the conversations were like this, they said they smeared it and
00:36:57
that’s it.
00:36:59
So naturally
00:37:01
they thanked them, they didn’t
00:37:04
know, they showed them,
00:37:09
there’s one more
00:37:12
question, the guys asked for clarification, you’ve
00:37:15
written several books one of them
00:37:18
is called Alpha My destiny
00:37:27
would be brief even on the Internet Well,
00:37:30
without disclosing the details, I understand
00:37:32
why I can’t I’ll sign it for you, of
00:37:36
course I’ll be just happy I’ll be happy I
00:37:40
can
00:37:41
sign Thank you this will be a
00:37:43
lifelong memory for Mr. Nich’s grandchildren and great-grandchildren
00:37:46
You can’t imagine what we’re experiencing right now, right
00:37:49
next to you,
00:37:52
because you understand, well, when you
00:37:55
see a person on TV, you read
00:37:58
about him, you read his biography, you’re there,
00:38:01
preparing for an interview, but when all this is
00:38:03
nearby, it’s a completely different feeling And
00:38:06
when you see that a person like you is
00:38:08
absolutely simple in everyday life, he behaves
00:38:13
like a Soviet person, that is, he
00:38:16
treats our visit
00:38:19
to work with understanding in these times, this is honestly
00:38:21
so unexpected that I think we are all
00:38:24
simply amazed and Thank you very much
00:38:27
for being sign these books for us,
00:38:30
then I’ll read it and try to
00:38:33
carefully tell the guys about what
00:38:37
she has, that’s why she was born, this
00:38:41
book means when BN
00:38:46
Yeln appointed me to the group for the second time, and by his decree on
00:38:50
July 4, 92, a book of soft soft skins fell into my hands a
00:38:59
thin book, small in
00:39:02
name, it was called Alpha, a top-secret
00:39:05
detachment of the KGB, the author was chatterbox Mikhail Efimovich, a
00:39:09
war
00:39:11
correspondent, I read it in good faith,
00:39:14
then I picked up a red pen in
00:39:18
red, I had it all in handwriting because
00:39:21
Nelya was just a
00:39:24
statement of slander,
00:39:29
invited him, showed him his work,
00:39:32
said you answer me to the question
00:39:34
they wrote out this story as a
00:39:38
documentary narrative or as an
00:39:41
artistic narrative as a documentary Why
00:39:44
not if you were allowed to write a book What
00:39:48
I doubt, and the war
00:39:50
correspondent Why didn’t you turn to the
00:39:52
documents in the case there are all the references for
00:39:55
all the operas
00:40:02
[music]
00:40:03
Emen of the show the person with whom I have to
00:40:06
talk, I talked to anyone on the
00:40:09
basis of this
00:40:12
conversation. Ordinary employee Yes, the one who is
00:40:15
participating in this operation. He
00:40:18
never knows which headquarters room,
00:40:27
that part of its volume that he must
00:40:32
complete in his area, everything and
00:40:34
the rest. He doesn’t know how he Can an
00:40:37
ordinary employee give an assessment for the unit,
00:40:39
I apologize, of course,
00:40:42
one employee spoke at a meeting of
00:40:46
our association from the first set and
00:40:49
said, but in the end there will be a
00:40:52
fair book about the people and affairs of the
00:40:54
alpha because
00:40:58
people also rated this book as yat who has been
00:41:04
serving in the unit for a long time also suggested that I propose that
00:41:07
this task be entrusted to
00:41:12
Zai, the meeting was obliged to vote, began
00:41:16
to prepare for this, the book was published in an
00:41:20
edition of 10,
00:41:27
this book That is, I did not even specifically
00:41:31
write about those operations in which I did not
00:41:33
take part, I considered it unethical to
00:41:35
write about that that I myself didn’t see, didn’t
00:41:39
feel, and so
00:41:41
on, it was necessary that there were operations, then
00:41:44
I had to write another book, special forces
00:41:48
Alpha affairs, and the people there had already
00:41:50
found a place for all these operations, and so on, the course of their
00:41:55
operations, all of them, now on the fiftieth anniversary, the
00:42:00
decision was made to publish another book of a larger one
00:42:06
volume with more
00:42:08
information Well, they said to call it Alpha My
00:42:13
destiny, we’ll call it again and so
00:42:15
on, but this book will already be a two-volume book
00:42:18
because the material can be placed in one book
00:42:27
Alpha things And people it’s already 768 pages oh
00:42:31
the book really isn’t there anymore It’s long
00:42:35
finished And this is the book d Volumes will be
00:42:40
500 pages each thousand
00:42:43
pages will be in these two houses We want to
00:42:47
sincerely thank you for your
00:42:49
time and we
00:42:58
want to wish you longevity because it is
00:43:01
very important that people like you
00:43:04
this year I will definitely celebrate this
00:43:07
milestone if you invite
00:43:09
With pleasure, yes, we will come, we want
00:43:12
to wish you to remain as cheerful,
00:43:14
strong, wise, because we saw the car,
00:43:17
Yes, we saw, yes, we saw, and it
00:43:21
seems to me that now is the time when
00:43:23
people who built the
00:43:28
Soviet Union are really needed so that the
00:43:32
processes that have now begun will
00:43:34
go through successfully, that is, in order for
00:43:37
Russia to change for the better
00:43:39
now, and in connection with this, there is one
00:43:43
request, Kristina is sitting here, she is very
00:43:46
young, she is just starting to live. What
00:43:49
parting words can you give to those who are not of
00:43:53
average age?
00:43:58
Well, give us first if it’s like you
00:44:01
said The participants are also interested.
00:44:05
I would
00:44:07
contact them first, of course. A
00:44:10
huge thank you and gratitude to them for
00:44:12
voluntarily protecting you and
00:44:16
me. This is
00:44:19
the mission, I sincerely say this is the highest
00:44:23
[music] The Armed Forces
00:44:28
time draws the attention of the government
00:44:31
to the prosecutor's office that these are all those preferences
00:44:35
all these benefits that are provided for
00:44:38
them to be fulfilled, here
00:44:40
one young man approached me,
00:44:43
it turned out that this comrade
00:44:45
worked in our structure which I
00:44:48
and two of my colleagues, the
00:44:52
agency and the
00:44:57
founder of me passed away, I’m the only
00:44:59
one still creaking in this world everything While
00:45:03
I’m in charge of this
00:45:04
structure, I sincerely tell you that he
00:45:07
brought me documents, a man after being
00:45:10
wounded, this is his
00:45:15
uncle there in the war, in this military
00:45:19
special
00:45:20
operation, he was wounded such that the
00:45:23
military medical commission declared him
00:45:25
unfit for military service,
00:45:28
but to that extent he drank from the hospital and
00:45:32
as a law-abiding person, he arrived in
00:45:35
this unit from where he was sent to the
00:45:38
hospital, that is, he introduced himself that
00:45:41
I have documents, I’m not what the commander
00:45:44
tells him, come on, what do they write to you?
00:46:00
here is a small touch It would seem,
00:46:03
well, how is this possible, when is the military
00:46:06
medical commission
00:46:08
responsible for this conclusion, I apologize for
00:46:10
what she did, it means the injury was
00:46:13
such that it does not give him the right to
00:46:16
continue military
00:46:18
service, so many thanks to them for the fact that
00:46:22
I once again sing the wonders of heroism
00:46:25
they show courage
00:46:28
there, they defend our country, I count our
00:46:32
people. But how do such people prepare
00:46:35
themselves for adult life from childhood? I
00:46:38
spoke at a school named after me in the
00:46:41
village of Lyamina, Chusovsky district,
00:46:43
Perm
00:46:46
Territory, there were 150 guys sitting in the hall.
00:46:52
I was in uniform and Raise your hands.
00:46:57
in the morning he does fi exercises four hands
00:47:01
rose And I say the rest don’t do it and
00:47:05
we don’t know how to do it one gets up
00:47:08
fourth grade And you Show me how to
00:47:11
do it Right now in the form now
00:47:16
show it well Dawa showed them
00:47:20
the exercise what to do I’m like, well
00:47:23
now we’ll do it Well, I don’t know
00:47:25
what to do.
00:47:26
First, you need to start your
00:47:29
life or your day. A new day with
00:47:32
physical
00:47:35
exercises, then you will live a long time and with a
00:47:40
clear mind with a clear head, this is the first
00:47:44
circumstance, the second is
00:47:47
schoolchildren. After all, everyone has the
00:47:49
opportunity to become
00:47:52
excellent students. This is necessary for this. Ust have to
00:47:56
study
00:47:57
constantly, too, when I meet you,
00:48:01
I ask, I definitely ask at school, do
00:48:04
you go to school? Yes, in what grade in the sixth is the
00:48:06
excellent student? No, I’m going next time
00:48:09
we’ll meet verbatim Report that you’re an
00:48:12
excellent student understood your program, understand,
00:48:15
work on
00:48:16
it
00:48:18
After all, everyone should really imagine that
00:48:21
they graduated from school, most go to universities And I
00:48:25
came to the university and you, I apologize, were
00:48:30
rated only a
00:48:32
C and red
00:48:36
tape begins. And if you came with excellent
00:48:39
knowledge, and so on, what
00:48:41
questions do you have, this very score is in What is the
00:48:44
highest? This is not to understand in
00:48:47
childhood, this is possible but
00:48:55
on the broad road in life which you
00:48:59
will take without hesitation, or you will be
00:49:02
stuck all your life and so on.
00:49:05
This is very important, the main thing is to prepare
00:49:08
yourself for adult life, starting with
00:49:11
good training, I emphasize
00:49:15
if to work means to work diligently and
00:49:18
so on Everything is everywhere you have to Show yourself
00:49:21
everywhere, strive to show yourself from the best
00:49:24
side, and for this, of course, you have to work,
00:49:27
work on yourself, be sure to
00:49:29
develop, read, watch, listen, and
00:49:33
so on, there is a box now all day long.
00:49:36
Talks about a lot of things, talk about
00:49:39
history, you need to
00:49:42
know and not only history, modern
00:49:45
politics you need to know, but how do you Whose responsibility do you think is
00:49:48
to instill boredom in children?
00:49:57
I always say that the school should
00:50:00
n’t be involved in upbringing; the school should be
00:50:03
teaching; the family should be involved in upbringing;
00:50:06
but all upbringing in the family
00:50:11
comes from how the
00:50:13
parents behave; if every day the father
00:50:16
comes home drunk and starts beating
00:50:19
the mother, and so on, I’m sorry for expressing
00:50:23
all of this seven good things
00:50:28
are. Parents must set an example by themselves
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and, above all,
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work with their children. They must
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check the
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quality of the Armed Forces, cultivate
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relationships and distinguish between them. Thank you Gennady
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Nikolaevich once again from all our friends
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from our acquaintances who are fighting who are simply
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helping Thank you for your time it
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was a very interesting time for us, really, so
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thank you for doing what
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you do and for
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being you, thank you for coming

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Дорогие друзья и не друзья! В этот раз нам представилась уникальная возможность побывать у Геннадия Николаевича Зайцева, создателя легендарной группы «А», заместителя начальника седьмого управления КГБ при совете министров СССР, живой легенды и просто очень мудрого человека работающего на благо нашей страны по сей день. Интервью вышло спонтанным, с ходу и говорили мы о разном. О прошлом, настоящем и будущем…

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