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this is a very personal program about the rules and

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principles of life in a

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Russian musical and a bard song,

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our conversation with Alexey Ivashchenko, actor,

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playwright, translator

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Alekseevich It wouldn’t be surprising if we

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talk to you about your three roles,

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acting, your

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work as a bard, known to millions of viewers, finally, you are

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the founder of one mayor of the

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Russian musical Let's talk about this too,

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let's start with how you and

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Georgy Vasiliev realized that you are a duet,

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we are not a duet, we are what is left of the

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committee of the

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Faculty of Geography where we both

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studied. Georgy is a year older than me in the

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Geographical Faculty of Moscow State University, it so

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happened that I entered in 75 and straight

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There, in September 1975, a

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quintet under the

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direction of Sergei Nikitin performed at our faculty. I remember

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now my feelings about this and I

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will tell you that

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it probably made no less an impression on the young fragile mind

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than when, a couple of years

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before, I first listened to the Beatles I’ll

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tell you for sure that it was definitely no less

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impressive, of course we all wanted to

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sing like them, like these amazing people, and a

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quintet immediately appeared at the faculty under the

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leadership of Georgy Vasilyev, then,

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as I usually say, he was not yet as

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Leonardo HIV as today, but he was just a

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senior student, well, the eldest seasoned

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sophomore And I laid out the Tarot and the

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freshman Georgy Vasiliev and we sang the

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gap in years mattered the gap in a year

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had a huge meaning I in that

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group weren’t even allowed

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to play the guitar back then I was still living people

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then it so happened that there were

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four of us, one girl Due to family

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circumstances, I was unable to sing later.

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One young man broke away from us here and

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gave me a guitar. Although I, too, was not yet as

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Igorevich as now,

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we were just three at the

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Faculty of Geography; another girl Irina Chubakova sang with us

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and we can’t imagine that we

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can sing together because the three of us

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had three voices. It was a lot of

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interesting things and even when we won

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some year in 80, 80-80 we won

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some

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place almost a grand prix at the Moscow

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Art Song Festival, the three of us performed

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then she left for an internship and there were only

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two of us left. We went out and the

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standard phrase with which our

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concert began was the following: actually, the three of us are

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singing for today There are two of us and somewhere

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after some time we realized that we

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were singing together

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and I will come, I will come I will come to

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myself, praying and fasting,

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having humbled myself in the process of waiting,

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I was waiting for the crosses in the meeting column,

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but above me there hangs a cross

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like a key lost in a pond,

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like an undigged grave, my dear. Wait for me,

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my dear

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and I. Since when is this name

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known today to the whole country of Ivasi where the

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encrypted Vlashchenko and Vasilyevich, to be

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honest, we couldn’t accept this name

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until recently,

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just now when we

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got together in September and gave such a concert once,

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the only time we already realized that

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it was useless to resist and called ourselves by

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this word and Vasya, but never in our lives have we given

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this name to ourselves they call you

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Of course, we fought off this name

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in every possible way, it seemed to us that

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Alekseevich Vashchenko Vasiliev is a much

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better name for us than some kind of fish,

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but how do you work together

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when you write songs, for example, very

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differently in our repertoire there are

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songs that each of us composes

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separately, there are songs that we

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compose together, there someone wrote a

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melody, someone came up with lyrics, and there are also

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songs that we composed. Like in the

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good old days, by phrase by

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chord, we sat opposite each other and

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how in ancient times we tried to

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construct some kind of then a

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work of art, if I may

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say so, and we succeeded

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in one of Veronica Dolina’s interviews, I

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read such a phrase in the quiet world of

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bard song Ivashchenko and Vasiliev

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created a sensation what does she mean we

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always tried to break out of the

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genre We wanted the music that we

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we treated it like music and the fact that

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we then

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packaged it in two guitars does

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not change anything, this is music of

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various styles, many songs,

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if you listen to them, you can understand

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where they came from, what grew from

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romance, what grew from rock, what grew

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and grew from chanson And what

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exactly is involved in

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classical music that

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we listened to a lot and

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were interested in? Tell me when you

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talk about the impression

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that Nikitin expressed on you in general, a

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bard song. It is somehow connected with the

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social atmosphere; there are times

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when it is more needed; it happens when it is

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less necessary Yes, of course, I’m still in

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some difficult moments of life, and sometimes

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when such a board rolls in that you don’t

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know where to go. I’m turning to you

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know, not our songs, you’re

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also tired of them. Well, there are several

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songs that

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bring me out of a

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state of depression

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and a

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big one some of them belong to the first

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Yuryevich Vizbor, for example, how calm,

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my friend, calm, we still have everything ahead and

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then I don’t understand why Let

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trouble pick at your chest with the spire of the night bell tower

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But it’s impossible to say more precisely,

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how do you explain that

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teenagers come to your concert or concerts and they know lyrics of

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the song Oh,

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this is very funny They are either children or

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scary to say grandchildren of those who once

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listened to our songs Yes and they know This

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means that the whole world has preserved these songs

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in families these songs have been preserved Times

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change the song remains

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[applause]

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[music]

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Let's Let's talk about musicals, let's how did

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you

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start doing this because as I

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understand it, when you started doing this, there

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was no musical culture back in Russia, why is it not quite like that, the

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musical culture was, of course, grandiose

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things were done here, these are, of course,

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the performances of the Lensoveta Lensovet Theater, the

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grandiose

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Taming of the Shrew this is a top-class musical

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this is Juno and Maybe this is the star Smertin

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Murrieta it was impossible to get in so I was

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walking

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and suddenly I discovered

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that in the middle of the day some of the

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theater employees were entering the theater not from the service

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entrance, but from the main entrance they were so quick and

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when by chance there were seven together I went to I

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got up, took it, and walked in the middle of the day,

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got into the toilet, locked it, waited for the start

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of the performance, came out, and then those morons

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lost me somewhere and on the stairs, so I

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found on the stairs about 8 or 10 people

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about the same

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people who came from nowhere because it was difficult to get there

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impossible You can’t imagine you can

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probably imagine this

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popularity

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Zakharov is the father of Russian music, not

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only he you know but there was

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a performance in Leningrad called a music

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store I don’t know anything about it Maxim

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Isaac Dunaevsky also couldn’t

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tell anything in detail about this performance he

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says where -that is, there is something about him

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because it’s Isaac Dunaevsky, it’s

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Leonid Utesov, it’s a performance in which

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everyone was mixed, which was so

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wildly popular that they played

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20-22 performances, I haven’t heard about it, yes, it’s a

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grandiose story. This story

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is known only to us one uh one way

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The thing is that they decided

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to film this play when they started

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filming it they found out that there was no

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story that was worthy of a movie, they invited

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professionals Yes, and they remade it all,

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rewrote it, they left

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only the last name, the first and last name of the main

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character, the main character's name was Bones Potekhin

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and this turned into Merry guys

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[music]

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when it’s not waiting for her at all

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and every evening it immediately begins to surprise you

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and you sing

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you don’t want peace

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[music]

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traditions of

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musical theater

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musical plan or what are they very big in Russia

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another question is that we were the first

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Here we are with Georgy were the first to dare

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to play a

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musical performance, a musical according to the

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Broadway scheme, on a daily basis.

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It was the Nord-East, yes, and we also did not come to it in a

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direct way. I graduated after

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I graduated from the university. I

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graduated from the VGIK acting workshop of

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Sergei Fedorovich Bondarchuk ring

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Konstantin Skobtseva and worked several

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years in the theater of the film actor's studio where, in

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general, I went through the school of a young fighter and

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played episodes in films and acted in extras

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and began to sound, I did a

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lot of voice acting then and then, by the will of

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miraculous circumstances, I ended up in an

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absolutely amazing place in the

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modern opera theater under the direction of that

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same Alexei Lvovich When

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I saw Rybnikov close, my legs reacted. The

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fact is that the Liturgy of the Catechumens

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that was going on then, which I had the good fortune

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to be involved in, I was

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understady, as they say on Broadway, the second

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cast of the main character, the main character was

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Boris Plotnikov, the greatest Russian actor,

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recently the tragic drama Crazy, it

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was of course an opera Moreover, modern Opera

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was a

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powerful symphonic statement

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that was carried out with absolutely

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modern sounds. When I

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asked Alexey

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Lvovich Tell me why this is such an

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amazing sound, it’s so incredible

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Why is it a phonogram? Why don’t you

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want to assemble a grandiose orchestra, it

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will be a shock, he just says

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you understand What a thing This has a

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downside, each of these sounds that

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sounds I have been choosing over the years,

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it is from different synthesizers, it is from different

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sets of sounds, it is recorded somewhere

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live and it is a mosaic of sound, it is an

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incredible sound palette that at the first

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moment gives a shocking impression. I

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adore the liturgy, it is very complex very

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strange unusual and with this or other

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catechumens and we went on tour in

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America it was in 94 and saw the

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real

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[music]

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[applause]

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I saw this on Broadway I saw the

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castaways come running Georgy

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Georgy Leonardovich came running, we should

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make such a thing on our nose in Russian Let's do it,

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but we ourselves have a 100-year head start, we won't

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do anything ourselves, we need to do it directly, a

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licensed performance, we went to London,

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got approval for our work and

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worked on this project for a whole year, and at the end of

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ninety-seven, we had a

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premonition of something Georgy said It looks like

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we won’t be able to pull off this project, it turned out to be

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visionaries, the year 1998 came,

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everything crashed, and if we

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got involved, we would just die, but fortunately we did

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n’t die, after a period of some

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depression associated with the termination, I

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adore Until now, the outcasts were simply

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I was depressed and

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he says Georgy says What are you going

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through? Let us write it ourselves, we already

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know how it started, we already know how it works, yes, it took

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me three years to write it, it

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was exactly three years, and day after day,

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not like there from time to time I

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had to in the morning I had a

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workplace I sat down and started writing music and the

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lyrics of some numbers, 3-4 versions were written,

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that version of the synopsis of the libretto that

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we started working on. It

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was already about 11

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[music]

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[music]

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Well, how are you, you seem to be intact hands legs not for the

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job he

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lives a machine gun

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like a fascist fascist excellent Will not pop up

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problematic

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[music]

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fleet When the idea of a plane

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that lands from the very beginning appeared, of course

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the idea was this I saw it in

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Germany in German a musical

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called missangon in this

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performance in the second act, a helicopter lands on the stage, a

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platoon of

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American soldiers runs in and the helicopter flies away,

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we looked at each other like that, the helicopter

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is okay, but you don’t want a plane, we decided to

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land the plane and, among other

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things, we began to choose a project in which we

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could somehow land it here too

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It turned out that there is such a grandiose

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story that you can try to

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describe in a musical project and into

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which the plane fits

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perfectly, just Well,

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the plane is great, how they built it, they built it on purpose,

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you won’t believe it, but they made it; the

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wingspan of this plane was made, it

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was a little shorter, but the span its wings

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were a total of a meter more than the

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real one, you know why? Because the

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real one didn’t make that impression.

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It was a plane calibrated down to the centimeter.

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It had to fit up there.

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They took it, they built it specially; the scenery

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was serious and we took the actors; there

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weren’t any actors yet for We

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had a casting for the musical for a year, almost a very large

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casting, 1000 people in total watched

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approximately and after

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about

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60 people were selected and Georgy held a

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separate interview with each one in order to

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understand what kind of person he is, what he wants,

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what he needs and can Is he,

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as Georgy put it, on an autonomous

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flight to Mars, which we are actually

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planning? These people will see each

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other for at least a year. We

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counted on every day, we counted

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on two years of rental, and if we don’t have the

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right human atmosphere

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in this team, we will die. and we

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managed to assemble such a team, we

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know the dramatic tragic

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fate of the Nord, let’s not return to this.

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And what happened to the actors,

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they work very hard,

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they work very hard, the Nord actors, someone works in

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theaters, someone works in musicals, children who are

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not so-called have grown up and become

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adult artists you can see them

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in many, many And not only musical

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performances and in many theaters they

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work. Mikhail Shputkoin claims

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that Russia needs a Russian musical. As I

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understand it, what is written on our material,

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we did it, we did it, Yes, I’m

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doing this too now. sat down and

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finally finished writing his musical, which

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was conceived 15 years ago, called The

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Lizard, it’s a musical drama based on

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one of Alexander Volodin’s early plays,

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The Lizard,

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he had two plays from the

00:18:48

Stone Age detective series. Two

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Arrows, a fairly well-known play,

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was filmed, and I dedicated the second one, called

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The Lizard, to

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it. several years of her life

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Now she is completely ready. I don’t

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know if they made a musical of her. Yes, this is in a

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sense a classic musical;

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everything is sung from beginning to end; there is not a

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single prose line; there are

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no dialogues; to

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do with it Maybe I

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’ll make it in Cinderella mode,

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literally there are 5-7 10 actors 3-4

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musicians and a story about it It’s easier but

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it also requires money and time I’m

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not sure yet that it will work out but I’m

00:19:31

demanding it platforms But this you can play

00:19:34

on a concert stage, it’s not very

00:19:35

difficult, but I know, but I won’t

00:19:39

give up this job because I have a lot invested in it

00:19:41

and it can turn out to be very interesting and

00:19:44

modern, so if we go back to the musical theater,

00:19:48

Mikhail joke you wrote the

00:19:53

circus princess you wrote poetry I

00:19:56

wrote poems and took part in

00:19:59

writing the play itself, I also

00:20:01

wrote dialogues, I wanted to ask about something else,

00:20:04

what is the secret of the play, which has been running for

00:20:09

how long it has been running? A hundred years, probably, with the

00:20:12

circus princess it’s a special story and

00:20:15

there are always sold-out houses, yes, there are sold-out houses, they are

00:20:18

connected in the first place with music and all the

00:20:21

productions

00:20:22

of this play In Russia, they are all connected with

00:20:26

some kind of adaptation

00:20:30

whose boundaries we, too, when

00:20:34

such a task was set to write a new

00:20:35

new circus princess, the boundaries of which we

00:20:39

also could not overcome. The fact is that

00:20:42

in the original Circus Princess or since

00:20:46

it was named in our film

00:20:50

It has a slightly different plot, let's just

00:20:52

say it's completely different

00:20:55

I'll explain what's the matter After all, no one Who

00:20:59

Nobody None of the just even the

00:21:01

professionals know what the original

00:21:04

name of Mr. X is in the Kalman He's not at all

00:21:07

these inverdia as we call him

00:21:09

the films also decided to call him these

00:21:10

energies, but I’m already used to it, but

00:21:13

when I saw it

00:21:16

in the keyboard, my eyes popped out of my head his

00:21:20

name is Fedya,

00:21:21

he’s a Russian Hussar, the action takes place in

00:21:23

St. Petersburg at the Stanislavsky Circus

00:21:28

and there’s some terrible [ __ ] written there and

00:21:32

Russia it’s contraindicated It’s not just

00:21:35

contraindicated And they’ll just dare to do it

00:21:36

here, are you crazy? There’s no

00:21:40

baron like that, there’s no Kriveljak there. There

00:21:42

’s Grand Duke Sergei Vladimirovich

00:21:45

who prevents everyone from plotting Well, it’s

00:21:48

complete nonsense. By the way, in the West they

00:21:51

often play in the original,

00:21:53

but it’s a success But it was absolutely

00:21:57

here, this game was impossible and it

00:21:59

was rewritten many times

00:22:02

and

00:22:05

these people have these names, he and Baronda Krivillak

00:22:09

and the main character Edwin Wahler Heim in the

00:22:14

original he had already been

00:22:16

Edwin and who he was there God knows

00:22:20

how many things we decided

00:22:22

to follow the main tradition, but we

00:22:25

added characters whose characters

00:22:28

were not listed and gave them some

00:22:31

musical numbers and somehow

00:22:33

managed to bring this plot together. So it

00:22:36

turned into a

00:22:37

very serious dramatic

00:22:40

work.

00:23:02

I am proud of the circus princess and this

00:23:05

work with Marina Shvytkova from

00:23:11

Sebastian Gardens William the director

00:23:13

who was just

00:23:15

directly involved the audience answers you

00:23:19

Why Because for the first time, as the daughter

00:23:22

who came here for the premiere said,

00:23:25

drum roll, she was and saw

00:23:29

the performance, she said for the first time,

00:23:31

what she dreamed of was realized

00:23:36

because Mr. X performs deadly on stage.

00:23:40

It’s amazing. It’s just him

00:23:45

maybe not as dangerous as in the film

00:23:50

in the film there he performs some

00:23:52

incredible

00:23:53

cow Luke swings on a trapeze playing the

00:23:56

violin while standing on a chair that

00:23:59

stands on its hind legs no the trick here is not the

00:24:01

same but it is so brilliantly choreographed and

00:24:04

so incredibly integrated into the music and

00:24:07

performed naturally by the main

00:24:09

character’s understudy, the circus performers are so

00:24:11

amazing that you can

00:24:13

go watch this alone 10 times because it’s

00:24:15

just fantastic

00:24:17

to mix the circus and the musical, it’s beautiful, it

00:24:21

was originally conceived that way once upon a time, what

00:24:24

was in your destiny connected with the musical

00:24:27

after the Nurdostovs, a tragic

00:24:30

moment happened Yes, he didn’t discourage you from wanting to

00:24:33

study.

00:24:34

No, after some time I returned

00:24:37

to this topic and returned unexpectedly for

00:24:40

myself, and I’m glad that I did it. In

00:24:46

2010, the premiere of the musical

00:24:49

Ordinary Miracle took place, of which

00:24:51

I was the producer. I took on the production

00:24:54

duties

00:24:55

I want to immediately add that based on the results of

00:25:00

this experiment, I

00:25:02

can say that I

00:25:05

didn’t like the production functions at all, it’s very, it’s

00:25:08

impossible to decide

00:25:10

what to do, invest money in

00:25:13

advertising or play with a live orchestra,

00:25:14

one excludes the other, there’s a

00:25:17

budget, yes, or it will be a

00:25:20

phonogram

00:25:22

and you will have wonderful advertising and there will be an

00:25:24

audience or you

00:25:26

will have an audience everything will be fine but

00:25:29

you will have a live orchestra and there will be no advertising

00:25:31

and there will be spectators I chose the second

00:25:33

I chose a live orchestra

00:25:35

21 people turn on the mode there is no

00:25:38

doubt that of course yes and it ended with

00:25:41

the musical did not go into the second

00:25:43

season. Although we could have played only 156

00:25:45

performances, 156 in a row, this is called

00:25:48

only because in general it

00:25:51

had potential for a second season. Unfortunately,

00:25:55

I was forced to close the musical and close the

00:25:57

enterprise and Collapse everything, I was very

00:25:59

worried about this, but now But

00:26:01

I know how it all works from the inside And

00:26:04

what is the success of a musical on Broadway? What is

00:26:06

it in time?

00:26:09

You know when I found out We were the first when

00:26:13

we started Les Miserables, when we started I did

00:26:16

n’t even know that

00:26:18

Les Misérables is played every day, how is this

00:26:20

possible, how is such a thing possible? Birthday is this The

00:26:23

colossus is simply gigantic, then

00:26:26

it turned out that at that

00:26:28

time they had been running a musical every day for 10 or 15 years,

00:26:30

how could this be, and then

00:26:35

it turned out that the cats had been running for 22 years every day in

00:26:37

daily mode The Phantom of the Opera is also there

00:26:40

20-25 will change they sign a contract

00:26:44

for six months as a rule, and after six months

00:26:47

they are free to leave or continue. I know,

00:26:51

maybe it’s a legend, but they say that

00:26:54

it’s true that when the

00:26:55

musical Cats was closed for 22 years,

00:27:00

two actresses in this play played

00:27:03

different roles, but they lost all 22 years,

00:27:06

they had 44 six-month contracts I

00:27:09

I imagine how they leave

00:27:11

this theater after the last performance.

00:27:14

Well, what are we going to do, dear, I’m

00:27:18

imagining this picture And about the rejected ones The

00:27:21

last thing I want is about the rejected ones and

00:27:23

about Nord-East One day, somewhere probably in the

00:27:27

sixth or seventh month of rental,

00:27:30

they called me and said Alexey Igorevich, you

00:27:33

know here in Moscow there is

00:27:36

a French composer who came here, he wants to, he

00:27:39

actually came there on his own business, but he

00:27:41

wants to watch some kind of musical, can

00:27:42

he look at your doctor? I say, What kind

00:27:45

of composer? And they tell me it’s Claude

00:27:47

Michel Schonberg, is the author miserable?

00:27:50

you see, yes, he comes to Nordust, we

00:27:54

sit next to him, I translate the whole

00:27:56

performance for him into English, in which we

00:27:57

communicate, then he comes after, I

00:28:00

can’t calmly talk about it into the

00:28:03

pipe, and it’s like God came down.

00:28:05

God came down to them, they can’t watch it.

00:28:09

to be there what was in the corpse We

00:28:11

have amazing photographs where

00:28:13

Claude Michelberg is standing Handsome

00:28:16

And around him there is a corpse with eyes and to

00:28:19

convey It is impossible it is impossible to

00:28:20

say what it is I’m not even Delighted

00:28:23

it’s just that we are in this photo

00:28:25

I can ask you a question that I’m sure

00:28:28

all journalists ask when they talk to you.

00:28:30

Why is there such a big gap in

00:28:34

the time of your collaboration with

00:28:37

Vasilyev? You haven’t sung together for almost 20 years,

00:28:40

you know,

00:28:42

we stopped performing when we started;

00:28:51

it was the forces of time, it

00:28:52

was impossible, it was impossible to

00:28:54

combine Yes, there were one-time performances and

00:28:57

then Georgy said Well, think for yourself,

00:29:00

this is how we will be Well, this is how we usually

00:29:03

perform, just Calculate, look, how

00:29:06

long have we been rehearsing

00:29:08

How long have we been writing new songs

00:29:10

How long have we been preparing our concerts

00:29:12

in order to perform at the level

00:29:15

at which you and I are now performing,

00:29:16

we need to practice now in the New

00:29:19

era

00:29:20

in the new times in the times of production

00:29:22

in the times of advertising in the times when it

00:29:25

was possible in Soviet times the rumor passed the

00:29:28

thousandth hall was performing and now

00:29:30

in order to environment in times when

00:29:32

there is a producer when there is a director when

00:29:34

there is a technical director you and I must

00:29:37

become professionals You

00:29:39

want this and I say I don’t know he says but I

00:29:42

don’t I have a huge life we must either

00:29:44

do this Or do everything

00:29:46

else you know years have passed I I realized

00:29:48

that she was absolutely right, that is,

00:29:50

maybe because he had a different

00:29:52

main life, it

00:29:55

struck me that Vasily your partner

00:29:58

was the author of the division of Moscow into

00:30:00

administrative districts, he was one of

00:30:03

the authors, he worked

00:30:05

before he worked in the Moscow mayor's office,

00:30:07

he worked as the

00:30:10

chairman of the executive committee Oktyabrsky

00:30:12

district, this confirms what I’m saying,

00:30:14

that is, his his main life is your

00:30:17

main life they separated They are different for the

00:30:20

first time It’s just that I was still involved in

00:30:22

acting mainly in one form or another

00:30:24

And he did everything,

00:30:29

he’s just more like this, he’s more

00:30:31

verbose than I’m just that kind of

00:30:34

person, you also have one such

00:30:36

activity as voicing roles,

00:30:40

in my opinion all very great actors have voiced them. I’ve

00:30:43

never talked to anyone who

00:30:45

has done this. What’s the secret here, just

00:30:47

being able to hit the mark?

00:30:51

I don’t even know; it started a long time ago.

00:30:55

I’m the first. once I came to the dubbing, I

00:30:57

succeeded. It’s not easy to be able to hit the

00:30:59

lips, you can learn it quite easily,

00:31:01

but you need to feel as a

00:31:05

viewer the feeling There behind this voice

00:31:08

to play this scene for this character,

00:31:11

and understanding that

00:31:14

no one sees you, that you have one only

00:31:16

an instrument a voice only an instrument

00:31:18

a voice and you also need this voice

00:31:20

sometimes you know the voice doesn’t match the

00:31:23

actor is a good

00:31:24

character good whom he voices

00:31:27

and gets into the Top Ten but the voice doesn’t fit

00:31:31

so it doesn’t fit And everyone takes another

00:31:34

actor nothing can be done I

00:31:36

have several actors whom I adore

00:31:38

voicing throughout my entire adult life,

00:31:40

one of them is Hugh Grant,

00:31:43

there were only three or four films in

00:31:46

which he was not voiced by me, almost everywhere,

00:31:49

starting with Notting Hill and

00:31:52

Bridget Jones's Diaries and his last wonderful

00:31:54

films by Guy Ritchie and his most recent

00:31:57

film Guy Richie, who hasn’t come out yet,

00:31:58

he’s about to come out now, which

00:32:00

is called Operation Fortune, the ability

00:32:01

to win, and there I voice him and I’ve

00:32:06

already become close to him, I feel I can, I do

00:32:09

n’t have to turn on his voice, I can

00:32:11

read from his lips what he’s

00:32:15

feeling and playing right now, but he turned with

00:32:18

age he turned into from just a

00:32:22

handsome good actor he turned

00:32:24

into a beautifully growing up powerful actor

00:32:28

it's so pleasant it's technically impossible at all

00:32:30

You listen that of course

00:32:32

Of course We work on an earphone there's

00:32:36

always an earphone and you'll learn

00:32:38

earphones always Hear and before in the

00:32:41

good old days when her sound

00:32:43

stood out for two or three weeks when the whole

00:32:45

team is alone in front of the microphone and you play

00:32:48

your entire role without a partner You don’t even

00:32:50

know you’re kissing someone

00:32:51

and I love you darling then it brings you together Yes

00:32:54

it all comes together later And before when all the

00:32:56

characters are standing next to us they show us the scene and

00:32:59

we play this whole stage with one microphone,

00:33:01

the sound is turned off, you don’t hear anything and we

00:33:04

play for them, it’s wildly interesting. Also,

00:33:06

if there are powerful actors nearby, it’s very interesting,

00:33:08

please tell me, are you on stage alone

00:33:12

or with Vasilyev for so many years, what

00:33:15

they ask from the audience changes and the audience

00:33:18

is always asked the same thing sometimes

00:33:20

they ask the same thing we are very much

00:33:23

George Well at every concert at every

00:33:26

concert they asked Which one of you Ivashchenko

00:33:28

which Vasiliev was a traditional question

00:33:30

now

00:33:32

very now I rarely perform now there is

00:33:36

practically no performance I’m the only one who

00:33:38

stopped performing

00:33:40

and why do you write songs so rarely you

00:33:42

said that two or three a year

00:33:45

the rest everything goes to waste in

00:33:47

my marriage I spoil a lot,

00:33:51

sometimes I feel that the song worked out

00:33:53

sometimes it didn’t work out

00:33:57

I’m very much a process there were only

00:34:00

4 or 5 songs in my life which I

00:34:02

composed just like that, all in an hour For

00:34:05

two and the rest some years months

00:34:09

some years And some songs

00:34:12

One song was performed at our concert And the

00:34:17

last quatrains that were

00:34:20

written around 1989

00:34:24

then

00:34:27

I tried to compose it we tried to

00:34:29

complete it we couldn’t they couldn’t glue it together

00:34:33

and only now, how long

00:34:37

after 30 years later is it a

00:34:39

bard’s song? That’s how journalism doesn’t

00:34:42

age. I think it doesn’t age.

00:34:45

Since you’ve been working with musicals,

00:34:50

a galaxy of directors have appeared who

00:34:54

specialize in this, and

00:34:57

directors of different levels and different

00:34:59

depths have appeared. different tasks The fact is that

00:35:02

musical performances and the world of musicals

00:35:04

have changed a lot over the 20 years that have

00:35:08

passed since the time of the Nordost from the

00:35:10

moment when we are counting the Nordost

00:35:14

there are people who are reporting from the metro,

00:35:16

these were the so-called musicals

00:35:18

daily, daily shows when

00:35:20

huge investments were made resources here,

00:35:24

special direction is required for this so

00:35:26

that the audience can see every day.

00:35:29

This is an incredible spectacle, it must

00:35:31

attract something and directors must

00:35:33

set themselves a task in addition to

00:35:35

depth, in addition to the

00:35:38

Russian School of experience, in addition to all

00:35:41

this, what we have, in addition to all this,

00:35:44

we must

00:35:45

do an incredible spectacle that

00:35:48

people just have to open their mouths and not

00:35:53

close it at the end and not have time to close

00:35:56

it until the very end. Well, who should this

00:35:57

be a music director? There are

00:35:59

music directors who do this

00:36:01

and I know a lot. I really love what a

00:36:04

drama theater director does in a musical.

00:36:08

Evgeny Pisarev, but his musical

00:36:11

musical work in real musicals

00:36:13

is

00:36:15

his last work, for example, this is

00:36:21

brilliant, simply brilliant,

00:36:24

I agree with you, I too, simply

00:36:26

brilliant work. I’m already saying

00:36:28

he just understands this genre very

00:36:31

well. In one concert you said that

00:36:33

you feel spring very early, this

00:36:35

really is true so yes, this is

00:36:40

such

00:36:42

a premonition that sometimes appears in the

00:36:46

midst of the most severe winter, I

00:36:52

ask everyone the last question about the rules of

00:36:55

life, do

00:36:56

you use

00:36:58

the rules of life?

00:37:02

Yes, I can’t even say

00:37:04

the rules, this is what you

00:37:07

probably do, but you try, you try, it’s

00:37:10

correct, there are things that I’m trying to

00:37:12

do, there are two things that I always

00:37:14

try to do,

00:37:18

even probably two I try and the third

00:37:21

I do, there are three things that The

00:37:24

first is But this is a classic doing what

00:37:26

should be what will be it is very difficult

00:37:29

unimaginable Difficult the second sometimes even more

00:37:32

difficult is

00:37:34

not to be discouraged

00:37:36

despondency is a real sin but I fall

00:37:39

sometimes it’s scary and the third thing is very

00:37:43

important and it succeeds is to

00:37:46

give as much free time as possible to the family, children,

00:37:48

grandchildren, as much as possible

00:37:51

because this is the

00:37:52

most important

00:37:56

time, you mean give as

00:37:58

much love as possible,

00:37:59

I recently read a quote my daughter sent me and the

00:38:03

quote is that such a successful

00:38:06

person is a successful person who has children

00:38:10

in his adulthood who want to spend

00:38:13

a lot of time,

00:38:17

nothing better that there is no way to speak the

00:38:22

same language with children And now

00:38:25

soon now when the granddaughter speaks, that

00:38:28

is, granddaughter Probably this is the highest happiness

00:38:32

to which you can give time, strength,

00:38:35

free time and of course love,

00:38:37

I think this is for a lot of people. I understand, thank

00:38:40

you very much, thank you very much, it was

00:38:43

very interesting, thank you

00:38:45

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