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writers persecuted by the authorities Boris
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Akunin Dmitry Glukhovsky Dmitry Bykov
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were among those writers whom the
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Russians named writers of the year in a
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survey conducted Quite the same
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about the government and state
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WCM Well, only one of the authors included in
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this rating, Zakhar Lepin,
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advocates war in general attack
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targeted attack which happened
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this week on Dmitry Bykov and,
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most importantly, on Boris Akunin,
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who was also on the list of terrorists,
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told us that this is an excellent opportunity
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to talk with another famous
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writer, author and writer.
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Why do you think the attack on Boris Akunin
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began right now? It seems to me
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that... First of all, this is, of course, connected with the
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upcoming war of
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intellectual
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discussion
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dedicated primarily to the
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war in Ukraine and, in general, to
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alternative ways of developing Russia. That
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is, it seems to me that in recent months the
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attention of the authorities to Twitter has become very acute. Firstly,
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which remains in fact Apparently, the
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latest mass boat of
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discussion is in order to
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shift the emphasis. In general, the conversation on
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positions advantageous for yourself is
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a field in order to isolate and
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fragment representatives of immigration. Yes,
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who
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are actually the center of the formation of an
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alternative semantic and political
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growth in order to discredit their
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assistants and through embedded
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agents and through some
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special I don’t know political scientists from
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some SM agencies who are probably
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working on this in the interests of the
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presidential administration and so on, but
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apparently these measures are not enough and apparently
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the help of law enforcement agencies is also necessary.
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That is, I would
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consider Nanin’s attack as
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continuation of the events that unfolded
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along with the attack on Guriev Aleksashenko
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and, in general, an
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attempt, once again, to fragment and
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discredit the
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emigration, which is all the more trying to
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somehow
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self-organize the
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ongoing discourse
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through YouTube and through other
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social networks, that is, the main thing
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seems to me to be a means of influence - this is m
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Facebook YouTube Twitter it will turn out to be in
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power, what do you think? Well, firstly,
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there are always such nuclear methods as
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closing YouTube periodically. This story
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returns to the public field, that is,
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obviously
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different options are being considered. It is obvious that one way
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or another, Despite the fact that it may
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be emigration itself seems
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scattered and insufficiently
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numerous and overly luminous,
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nevertheless, the authorities perceive it as a threat
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Yes, because various
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measures aimed at weakening it and
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intimidating it are
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constantly being taken. Yes, and here the authorities are
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in no way reducing the pressure. So
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here it seems to me
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that it is completely clear that behind the
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attempts to destroy
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authority, at least in the eyes of
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not an audience of fans of fans, but in the
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eyes of some random Russian
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person, the authority of Bykov and the authority of
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Akunin stands for power, that is, these are
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purposeful prepared sni
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actions of
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labor and simply being
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representatives Since there are services, we must
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remember that these people called various
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Western politicians from somewhere, getting their
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phones, always these so-called
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pranks, which in fact are
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informational provocations, are always well
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prepared. They are perfectly
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provoking telephone hooligans, yes, that is, it is
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clear that these are very serious people behind
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this who are able to
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conduct a conversation with the Prime Minister of Italy
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at a sufficient level of awareness
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so that the Prime Minister of Italy and her
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assistant there do not suspect anything
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until the end of
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the conversation, the same story is here and it
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seems to me
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that Dasha, in terms of the effectiveness of
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this story,
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was raised a certain
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wave How can you measure performance in general,
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yes, that is, there is the
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social network Twitter, which,
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I repeat, is probably the most
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active platform for political
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discussions. But precisely
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because Elon Musk removed any restrictions on the
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presence of trolls and about
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state propaganda
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and [ __ ] Propaganda ses in NM is
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very active, we see it all there, yes,
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anyone who uses Twitter
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sees it, I think it’s
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kind of difficult to measure the temperature in a room using Twitter. Yes, because
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we don’t understand How many of these
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people writing something there really
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sincerely think so And how many
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people take this position Because
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they have to do this for work and which
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of them is even real And who are dead
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souls
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I think that in
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general the attempt is
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now to attack
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emigration and people Well, emigration,
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I repeat here, is of interest to the
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Russian authorities only because it is the
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only one has retained complete freedom
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of expression Yes, all the people who are in
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Russia are silent,
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even if they continue this position in
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the anti-war field, they no longer contribute, or at least in
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some kind of language, and
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this position has to be conveyed while people
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who left the country retain complete
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freedom of discussion although they, of course,
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also have to somehow act,
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there are
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attempts in other
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ways outside the legal field of influence,
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and so on. It seems to me that in the short term the
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authorities managed to achieve a certain effect there,
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but a certain recalibration will be carried out
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and I don’t think that the
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same Gregory
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Shvi the situation will produce what - it’s
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logical to assume
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that if
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earlier he somehow
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undermined his discourse, meaning that he
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has something to lose. What to lose, now he has
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absolutely nothing to lose in Russia and what
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happens in general is that the government, by its
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actions,
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radicalizes the opposition as inside the country and outside
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its
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borders, the destructive
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properties of the
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political field space But these actions are
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inevitable. In general, on the one hand,
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they lead to the fact that
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people inside the country are silent but accumulate anger,
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and people outside the country lose
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because the authorities cut off their
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channels of communication; the roots, let’s say,
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are cut off relatively of what is happening in
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Russia,
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people are losing what they have to hold on to, in
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general, the radicals are probably wrong. Well, in
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Russian cultural life there are
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figures who seem to be greater than
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the rulers. Even those who have been sitting
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in their places for as long as Vladimir
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Putin, there is, for example, Pugacheva. Do you
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remember when It would have been her Season of the hunt
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for Pugacheva there was such a point of view that
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they were talking about the wrong one
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attacked Where is Puva where is Putin Is it possible to
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say something similar about Boris
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Akunin Well, Boris Akunin is the most
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beloved
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writer of the Russian intelligentsia, and that
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is,
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there are different views
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on that can he be considered a classic, yes,
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but definitely
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as a fiction writer, he is completely incomparable
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Yes, but not only Bitri, because this is a
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person who, firstly, has been purposefully engaged in
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educating the Russian public for many years,
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and instills his
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own, but in principle, deeply
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humane and
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I would
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said Well, not only is he
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for an open world, but also
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for hope for the chances of Russian
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society and the Russian people for a
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normal human future, he is
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progressivist history
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and the anti-umbrella anti-ant
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and all this. Of course, it is very important
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because he is addressing this to his audience. This is the
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audience reading all this
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This also brings great significance to what
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he is doing and
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actually poses a great danger to the
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authorities because we see that the authorities are
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very noticeably trying to act in this field,
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making efforts in the opposite
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direction.
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crimes of
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the regime glorifying the course of
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self-isolation, cutting off
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from the progressive part of humanity,
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locking in
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some kind of house-building foundations,
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unlocking I will repeat Stalin’s
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crimes, and so on,
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and this is where the perch is
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And where is the power Well, the fact is that it
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seems to me a great tragedy for the
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current Russian government Well, at least
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for the part that forms
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domestic
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policy, there is a lack of strong
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support for unambiguous support. For two years
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now
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we have seen that some individual freaks
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only agree to support
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bloodshed
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and the
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average artist, the
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average author,
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the average
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artist Well, in fact,
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he’s just hiding and waiting for it to happen madness skhl
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yes, that is, many people, thousands, actually
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spoke out later in the
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codas sons of the
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authorities. People hid because not everyone
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was ready to pay the price for a
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principled position. And the price, well, the authorities
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very soon seemed that if there was
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some kind of inevitability of punishment in
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something - then it will be the inevitability of
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punishment for lack of loyalty to
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the authorities Yes,
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blacklists, dismissal, Loss
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of work, and for many people, rice is connected with
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personal freedom, and so on. Further, there will be no
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persecution for extremely administrative
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fines, administrative
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sanctions. So, the
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absence, nevertheless, despite
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all the encouragement of Loli and such
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military
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patriotism on the one hand and on the other
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hand the presence of penalties and even
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ressi regarding teto prom obm ono
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a lot of artists intelligentsia artists
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SJ IME in an expanded interpretation did not
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collide
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with the silent
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anti-war yes, that is, people agreed
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to pretend that nothing was happening
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but they do not agree nevertheless,
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to support the war and quite recently, on
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probably everything in the Telegram channel,
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his quotes were simply spread on Facebook,
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artists are now refusing roles
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in patriotic so-
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called war series, and so
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on
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And in fact, Well, that is,
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combining all this into A single context must
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be understood that the government, 2 years
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later, is hysterical about military
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mobilization, which is
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being carried out with the help of all media and to support which
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huge amounts of
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government
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funding are being directed, which should have
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led to the creation of
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cultural projects in this area,
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quite a
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Malorechensk
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festival type of several
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some unsuccessful film mistakes and, in general,
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two or three noticeable types of Checheno shamans, but
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again completely
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unrepresentative of the majority of performing
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musicians, all this is a problem, a criminal
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case and declaring
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Boris Akunin an extremist as a terrorist is a way to
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turn his readers away from him. I think
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that
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that
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is, I think that just
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in a complex ritual game of pretense and
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depiction of some
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results and
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behavior necessary for the authorities. Well, feigned
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loyalty in which a
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Russian person is forced to engage himself
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[music]
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will appear
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to admit a rumor that you read in public
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places and vice versa
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wink at your own And say that Yes, I
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read Akunin Despite the fact that he is
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now a terrorist extremist because
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smart people understand everything, and people who are not
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smart may not have considered Oka before.
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Well, yes, such a code is the password for our friends,
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we steel each other underground somehow, flash drives,
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for example, and some hidden printouts from Akum
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This means sites on the darknet where the
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complete collection of Akunin’s works is posted.
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Firstly, you need to understand that
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Akunin is a man who published a
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million copies in Russia. That is, this is
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really one of the most
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read
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onhp the most read authors in
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RUSSIA the number of books already published
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that no one is burning yet and
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which people have lying on the shelf at home is
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huge, that is, there is no need for
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secret flash drives. Moreover, a Secret
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flash drive is a digital
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Trace. And here it’s like, well, a completely
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colorless
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analog copy that lies in your
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house that you can give to someone to
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read and so on
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further
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OVT himself surrendered Yes, games of dissidence, games
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of
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persecuted writers Yes, but well, as if
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from some kind of cosplay for the thirties,
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but the fact is
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that the game is over
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and the hundreds of thousands of victims
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who Well, over the past 2
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years have happened
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in Toms
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on the Russian
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side are not there I know tens of thousands of
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prisoners who have been
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pulled out of powerless zones and abandoned meat grinders have
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been destroyed, all this makes me think that
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Well, even if this was intended
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as some kind of
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quotes there on agents, like quotes there
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poorly copied on the Rokhlya copier of
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enemies of the people
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or there enemy spies
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and
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Akunin’s announcement it means that an extremist
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is some poorly
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copied quotes from the
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persecution of artists,
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theater figures and
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authors since the
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thirties at some
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point It is clear when it is
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What is this Not a quote but what is this And
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that
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this is
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happening quite seriously,
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just in a terribly crooked
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and mediocre
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performance people are starting play in
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history and and flirt and all this is
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turning into the now creating sem
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Will we have
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uh Will we have our own samosa, as it were in Russia
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Date as a quote On a bad sersey
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made of the
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old Soviet samosa date yes Well, if
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there is a need, it will be It’s probably just a
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short time before the New Year,
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10 days. And what are your expectations, actually,
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of what will happen in the next
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twenty-four? I think that definitely the
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first half of 2024 will be
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gloomy because, well, the darkness will continue
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to thicken, the darkness will continue to come
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because this will be the time of the presidential
00:20:41
elections, the
00:20:43
presidential
00:20:45
elections will definitely need to
00:20:48
ensure a complete cleansing of the political
00:20:51
field within the country. I think that the
00:20:55
imitation of the North Korean result from the
00:20:58
point
00:20:59
of view of humility
00:21:03
and mass enthusiasm for the
00:21:08
uncontested
00:21:10
Victory with the brilliant
00:21:13
results of the father of the nation
00:21:16
here is the only acceptable
00:21:19
result. So it will be accordingly
00:21:22
how would be an attack on the remnants of Freedom, not
00:21:25
words, but
00:21:27
thoughts.
00:21:28
In addition, as soon as the elections are
00:21:31
won, more efforts will be
00:21:36
aimed at
00:21:38
winning the war. A new wave of
00:21:41
mobilization is possible; restrictive
00:21:43
measures of closing borders are possible. I think that the forces
00:21:48
that the authorities have directed towards lured those
00:21:50
who left back into the country, it makes sense
00:21:53
only if then
00:21:55
they plan to lock up these people inside the country, as
00:21:57
it were,
00:21:58
and we know that considerable efforts are being made,
00:22:00
including on social
00:22:03
networks, there are various stories about how the
00:22:05
border services behave, who have
00:22:07
stopped asking any questions for
00:22:08
those returning, that is, there are a lot of
00:22:10
signs that the authorities are now
00:22:13
working with cultural figures and so on, and
00:22:17
for a while the threats
00:22:21
regarding those returning have ceased to be made. I
00:22:23
think they are preparing, in
00:22:25
principle, to close the borders, then there are
00:22:30
significant restrictions or a
00:22:32
notification
00:22:33
permitting procedure for leaving the country
00:22:36
For the most part population, definitely
00:22:38
For all those who are either conscripted
00:22:40
or who have some significance for the
00:22:43
country’s defense capability, for example, an IT
00:22:45
specialist Well, then, while Ukraine
00:22:48
will fight to provide itself with the
00:22:51
next tranches of funding, without
00:22:53
which it will be incredibly difficult for it to
00:22:56
continue resisting in this war
00:22:59
throughout the
00:23:02
first first trimesters I think
00:23:05
that it will be
00:23:06
difficult for the country and for Russia too, that is,
00:23:09
in Russia.
00:23:11
The situation in Russia will tend
00:23:14
to the bottom which it has not yet
00:23:18
reached at all. But the VM will try to
00:23:23
achieve it
00:23:28
and there will be no improvement in the situation,
00:23:32
I think that the year will be
00:23:34
harder than 2 this is the same thick
00:23:38
Darkness
00:23:39
that is densest and darkest
00:23:42
Before
00:23:44
the dawn Well, the fact is that in
00:23:48
the history of our country we have known such hopeless
00:23:51
periods by comparison with which now it’s
00:23:53
still a game of what once was
00:23:55
You see,
00:23:56
they love
00:23:58
references and the authorities love references, they
00:24:00
promise that SMERSH will lead us to this, as I
00:24:03
already said. They play at enemies of the people,
00:24:04
foreign spies, and so on,
00:24:08
and people in power seem to be opposing or
00:24:12
believe that they are opposing, they also
00:24:14
start from various references,
00:24:16
comparing this with white migration there and then. with
00:24:20
figures who left the late USSR and so
00:24:23
on. That is, there is always a comparison with oneself
00:24:25
and as if this
00:24:27
comparison of oneself
00:24:29
with well-known historical references and
00:24:32
it seems to make it a little
00:24:35
easier for you to feel your
00:24:38
current situation on the one hand and on the
00:24:40
other hand this all turns what is
00:24:43
happening now Despite the fact that I
00:24:45
repeat, this has already paid for hundreds of
00:24:47
thousands of human lives into some kind of
00:24:48
cosplay That is, as if this is all Not
00:24:50
entirely serious Although the story nevertheless,
00:24:53
even on a new spiral turn with a much smaller
00:24:55
diameter,
00:24:59
what is happening is still happening seriously
00:25:01
and for many many tens and hundreds of thousands of
00:25:06
people, this is all that is happening now, even
00:25:08
if someone is just playing with
00:25:11
human destinies in a war game,
00:25:14
posing as a Marshal of Victory or
00:25:19
something else, it is paid for by thousands of tens of
00:25:23
human lives, all
00:25:25
this is happening absolutely
00:25:28
completely
00:25:30
VRZ So
00:25:34
and If compare with the historical
00:25:36
precedent those were much more
00:25:38
hopeless times there was this year there
00:25:40
were the twenties in Russia there was a
00:25:41
civil
00:25:44
war there was the Second World War Yes which in
00:25:47
Well Russia cost tens of millions of
00:25:50
human
00:25:51
lives now is not the worst time I
00:25:56
will come within a year d in
00:26:00
which in which we we will hear a rooster crowing there
00:26:03
and
00:26:06
we will see the sunrise, I am afraid that what is happening now
00:26:12
is some kind of historical
00:26:15
inevitability that is intended to convey to every
00:26:20
Russian the dead end and
00:26:26
destructiveness of this neo-impressionism
00:26:33
[music]
00:26:45
And we have entered the territory of Freedom on the
00:26:48
territory of Freedom we they
00:26:51
felt restless,
00:26:54
many were hungry and cold, and
00:26:58
many were afraid of responsibility, and
00:27:01
many simply could not find
00:27:03
themselves.
00:27:04
Elementarily to obtain for
00:27:07
themselves decent conditions of human
00:27:11
life, for this reason they missed the
00:27:15
times when the state was a parent,
00:27:19
as it seemed to them.
00:27:32
organize life Well, probably if this
00:27:34
ever happened in Soviet life,
00:27:36
it was in the short period between the
00:27:39
last years of Khrushchev, when
00:27:41
the state stopped directly
00:27:43
eating millions of people
00:27:46
and in the first years of the previous year, when some
00:27:50
economic level began to rise
00:27:52
there, Gold was
00:27:55
defeated by some- then there the Consumer
00:27:58
Basket was formed for people was destroyed
00:28:01
Yes And probably many And this
00:28:04
short, by and large, period was
00:28:06
very much power through culture,
00:28:09
primarily mythology, and in the minds of
00:28:13
people it was established as, in general, life before
00:28:15
Soviet power, which of course is not true
00:28:17
because the twenties famine in the
00:28:19
twenties they were dying of hunger in the thirties they were dying of
00:28:21
hunger in the forties they were dying
00:28:23
of hunger and military action in the fifth years they
00:28:25
somehow gradually stopped dying and
00:28:28
there, actually, it was probably 10-20
00:28:30
years Yeah, until the beginning of the deficit in the eighties
00:28:34
when the economy was
00:28:36
influenced by
00:28:38
[ music]
00:28:39
uh, well, firstly, it was extremely
00:28:42
ineffective, and secondly, the military in
00:28:43
Afghanistan went into disarray and,
00:28:47
moreover, the arms race and more people
00:28:53
could not provide consumer goods and even food,
00:28:54
and so on, well, that is, in fact,
00:28:56
very much people romanticize the power of
00:28:59
what is happening in the Soviet Union.
00:29:01
Therefore, people are bored and miss the
00:29:04
strong hand. For obvious reasons, yes, that
00:29:06
is, it is absolutely impossible to blame the Russian person for
00:29:08
anything here
00:29:10
and there is no reason to
00:29:15
laugh at him for this; this is all a completely
00:29:19
humanly understandable process that
00:29:21
took place in in our country and now
00:29:26
living as if I were
00:29:29
repeating cosplay, such a
00:29:34
throwback
00:29:35
to the pseudo Soviet
00:29:39
past where everyone pretends to be
00:29:42
something they
00:29:43
are not, but everything seems to be re-
00:29:46
enacting both
00:29:48
industrialization and Comrade
00:29:56
Steel
00:29:58
is neither from a semantic point of view nor
00:30:01
from a value point of view from the point of
00:30:05
view of the mechanics of what is happening
00:30:07
In no way a continuation of the Second
00:30:10
World War Yes, and the people who put on
00:30:15
shoulder straps that are a replica of the shoulder straps of the
00:30:18
Soviet Army there are lying relationships that howl,
00:30:27
these people do not have the psycho-emotional position
00:30:29
Yes, in fact, they are simply
00:30:32
either oligarchs or the
00:30:34
power class protecting the oligarch
00:30:38
there from the people, by the way, one way or another,
00:30:42
now it seems to be a historical
00:30:44
inevitability. I apologize for the long
00:30:47
digression, but the fact is that we
00:30:50
must apparently
00:30:56
eat every spoonful of salt now and see what happens
00:31:01
[music]
00:31:02
when power turns into the power of
00:31:07
dictators at what price? I apologize,
00:31:10
every ordinary person pays for this, and
00:31:15
apparently millions of families in Russia have already paid this
00:31:17
price
00:31:19
one way or
00:31:21
another, and without us being convinced of the
00:31:25
catastrophic consequences a
00:31:27
rollback in dictatorship
00:31:30
leads to, how dangerous it is to allow one
00:31:33
person to remain in power
00:31:35
for decades, how inevitably
00:31:40
this leads to why this has now
00:31:43
led without this Russia will not be able
00:31:46
to move
00:31:47
on, that is, I just believe that
00:31:51
history moves like a pendulum in
00:31:53
especially polarized
00:31:56
societies
00:31:58
where
00:31:59
any social shift leaves someone
00:32:01
behind
00:32:03
and leads to the fact that after some
00:32:05
time, a group of the population,
00:32:08
having gained
00:32:10
enough energy, pushes the pendulum in the
00:32:13
opposite direction. Well, now we
00:32:16
’ve seen how how how how how how how as how as a
00:32:19
group of
00:32:21
people mate in the
00:32:26
imre towards
00:32:28
dense cave fascism and so on,
00:32:33
but they failed to push this pendulum too far
00:32:40
and I’m
00:32:42
because this year
00:32:46
I read a lot about German fascism at work, of course,
00:32:48
once again I want to say
00:32:51
that there are no people, I
00:32:56
welcome
00:32:59
the columns that do not go to the front, those who do not return home from the front-line soldiers,
00:33:04
not the politicians who
00:33:09
come up with all this, the inspiration
00:33:13
is formalized. We don’t see, that is, people are
00:33:17
still trying, that is, the war
00:33:20
is unpopular, people are trying pretend
00:33:24
that it doesn’t concern them, that it happens to them,
00:33:25
or treats them,
00:33:28
not at best, as just
00:33:30
some source
00:33:33
of income, here the Awareness has not come, the
00:33:37
awareness of the ongoing catastrophes has not yet
00:33:39
come, but it will come inevitably
00:33:42
because the authorities do not intend to stop,
00:33:45
the authorities intend to stop from my point of view from the point of view of
00:33:48
winning This is for oneself to transform this
00:33:51
nevertheless as it was
00:33:52
originally conceived into the history of the Great Victory of the
00:33:55
current generation of
00:33:57
political
00:33:59
leaders legitimizing for themselves through this
00:34:02
war to knock out a place in history for themselves
00:34:05
through this war
00:34:06
to knock out and until an acceptable result for it is
00:34:11
achieved it
00:34:13
becomes not maybe because otherwise
00:34:15
any inconclusive
00:34:18
outcome, any draw, relatively speaking, it is for
00:34:23
them, taking into account the
00:34:25
huge huge sacrifices that all this has already
00:34:28
entailed a huge
00:34:31
cost of what they did, for them it
00:34:34
will already be considered a
00:34:36
negative result Yeah, and the court of history for them
00:34:39
will be cruel to them, that’s why they need to
00:34:43
win and therefore, the Russian government
00:34:46
needs to win and and therefore it will
00:34:48
add more and therefore the number of victims will
00:34:51
grow and therefore the war will nevertheless
00:34:55
come to every home
00:34:58
and only when every person experiences it for
00:35:00
themselves, a
00:35:10
generation of Russians will
00:35:13
truly live under another country And this will
00:35:15
all turn into a huge a historical
00:35:16
lesson that in every family there
00:35:20
will be a m and in every family there will be a
00:35:25
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На канале Ходорковский Live — интервью с писателем Дмитрием ГЛУХОВСКИМ. За три месяца до выборов президента России 2024 года власти устроили атаку на ряд популярных писателей. Борис Акунин, Дмитрий Быков, Дмитрий Глуховский — все эти авторы вошли в число самых популярных среди россиян даже по опросам прокремлевского ВЦИОМ. Чем Путину насолил Акунин? Запретят ли детективные романы о приключениях Эраста Фандорина? Что будет с «Историей российского государства» Акунина? Чем грозят писателю уголовные дела, заочно открытые в его отношении? Ослабит ли хватку администрация президента после выборов? Что общего у преследования литераторов и атаки в адрес экономистов Гуриева и Алексашенко? Твиттер остается последней для России свободной платформой для политических дискуссий. Впрочем, свободной ли, когда за короткое текстовое сообщение можно получить длинный тюремный срок? СМОТРИТЕ ТАКЖЕ НА ХОДОРКОВСКИЙ LIVE ДУНЦОВА: Денег Ходорковского нет. На Бузову не похожа. К Путину в штаб не пойду. Жены мобилизованных https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNfLSrpQ7TY ХОДОРКОВСКИЙ и ПАСТУХОВ: Мобилизация в мае. Путин прикрывается яйцами и колбасой. Дефицит на полках https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I7J_heoIXs БЫКОВ: Режим Путина убьется об стену. Подарки — обыски и вандализм. Спецэфир в ДР. Акунин. Михалков https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db8CJB6EO-o ШЕНДЕРОВИЧ: Путин помог НАТО. Дедушка проговорился. Все вместе — катастрофа. Акунин — «террорист» https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5eqT-ZhG14 АСЛАНЯН: Новейший двигатель АвтоВАЗа — на конвейере. Провал Mercedes и Honda. Вьетнам и Lamborghini https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMgc9jlMyQk ПАСТУХОВ: Путину впервые нечего сказать. Конституция, Быков и Акунин, Навальный, Горинов https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0loeRBI4MU КОХ: Путин проиграет НАТО. Украина не Европа. Россия не орда. Донаты ВСУ. Шендерович. Быков https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vojh_6qA300 ИНОЗЕМЦЕВ: Инфляция в РФ дойдет до 18%. Почему растут цены. Что будет с рублем. Зависимость от $ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NisFkH44beM АЛЕКСАШЕНКО: Почему растут цены. Какая на самом деле инфляция в России. Что с яйцами https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S4KPpDPW60 ГАЛЛЯМОВ: Путин проговорился на прямой линии. Почему не было жен мобилизованных. Вопрос от двойника https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJSj8gAsRic МОЖЕМ ОБЪЯСНИТЬ | Настоящие болезни Путина. Миллиарды его жены. Диагноз от Шульман https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRoz-exNVEg ПЕРВАЯ ПОЛОСА | Прямая линия с Путиным. Реакция Запада: «ветераны СВО» промоют мозги детям России https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbER2jEFMdw ЛИПСИЦ: Зависимость России от Китая – это плохо. Чего боится Дерипаска? Какие налоги поднимут https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFwEcK0L3bI Блог Михаила Ходорковского: https://www.youtube.com/user/khodorkovskyru

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