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МСЦ ЕХБ

духовное наследие

верные до смерти

Павел Вальтер

Чугуевка

гонимая церковь СССР

КГБ

отказ от гражданства СССР

беженцы в Канаде

церковь ХВЕ

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[applause]

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[music]

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[applause] [music]

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large families of born-again Christians of

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predominantly German origin

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from Chuguevka, Primorsky Territory, they

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moved to Canada in the

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80s in the persecuted church from Chuguevka, 10

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brothers became Stalinists, they defended the

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independence of the church from the state and

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education children in the spirit of the Gospel They

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refused to register the church on the

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basis of

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anti-evangelical legislation on

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religious cults in

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1982, they all communities renounced

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their citizenship, surrendered their passports and

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asked to be allowed to travel to any

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non-communist country as a result of

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five years they lived without passports during these

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years in large Christian families,

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more than 30 children were born without

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birth certificates; pensions without passports;

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marriages were not issued; men were not registered; men

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were not hired; and families were left

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without a livelihood; this was the price

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for the independence of the church; a

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community of revived Christians, consisting

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mainly of Germans, moved to

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Canada; how they live today immigrants in

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Canada you will hear about this in the

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testimony of brother Pavel Valtor in his

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family there are 13 children 19 grandchildren he

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serves as an elder in the church.

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What was the reason for the persecution of your

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church and why did the authorities take such a strong

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stand against your small

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comparatively small community at that

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time? I was 81 years old, our parents

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moved from Central Asia to the Far

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East, the village of Chuguevka, I was

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8 years old at that time. The Ussuri Territory is the

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Primorsky Territory of the Primorsky Territory.

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I was very young, but the memories

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remained, especially when we moved,

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the authorities greeted us very, very well

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because believers came these are

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strong places and a lot of strong ones somehow the

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brothers began to show themselves well at

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work as usual believers us our

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parents were hired they gave us a place

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to build houses we started building

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houses a

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house a short time passed

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News came from Central Asia that with the KGB so that

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because that already there the persecution began

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and our parents moved because my

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father and my father’s family Well and many

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others In this church they once lived

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in the Far East in their youth and since the

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persecution began in Central Asia then the

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Parents decided to go to the Far

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East because there were no churches there, there

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were very few believers to

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carry out evangelization, they were

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distributed

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all over you in the trees, they

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assigned brothers in charge and began this

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work of evangelization, when it began

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that the authorities

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sounded the alarm, they began to come, they began to

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set all sorts of restrictions and began to

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go to services when they came

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to services I remember this very well. My

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parents took the ministry forever and the

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reason for the persecution was the presence of children at the

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service

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and the registration of the church, that is, they wanted to

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register and so that the children would not go

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to the service, since our parents

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constantly took us to the service, we were

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present at these services and constantly

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came in the name of the law to stop

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the meeting,

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but our ministers, our brothers, our parents,

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they didn’t pay attention to it, and when

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someone new came with new faces

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with the police from the police at that time it was for the

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service, and the locals already said

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it was useless to shout, they will carry out their service to the end,

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then we will fine

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everyone service there were fines of 50

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rubles, arrests for 15 days, brothers and sisters

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were arrested by those who remember my sister

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reciting a verse, they took her away for 15 days, the

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brothers who spoke

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then our parents were called to the

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village council and

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they wanted to deprive the children of parental rights

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to distribute among the population When this

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decree or resolution came out

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The KGB came from the Far

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East,

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when they announced this to our parents, the

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parents said We are

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implementing many state laws,

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but we will not give you children, and they took

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extreme steps such as, but how can they say they are

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very important steps in Christian terms, they announced a

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fast, first the fast was 10 days of

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bed, brothers sisters as long as they could for

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10 days Then the

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second fast was 30 days brothers Everyone

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drank water for 30 days But did

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n’t eat anything

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sisters fasted as long as they could Some were in a

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smaller position some had small children

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3 days each 5 days up to 10 days Then the

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brothers refreshed themselves fasted for three days

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after three days

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30 days a month

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after a month they left the fast for a month

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they ate again after a month there was a

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30-day fast again and then again for a month

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they ate again in 6 months there were three

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monthly fasts

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Well, looking now back at this whole

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situation Me this is very touching And

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you know, I just remember all this, seeing the

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courage of the parents, what lengths they went to in order

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not to lose their children, so as not to give them to

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the state. The Lord came to the meeting,

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of course,

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but there were 27 brothers with the circus, 10 of them were

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arrested. It was 84 before

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Christmas on December 24

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when we In the morning we woke up, it

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was such a day, our parents woke us up

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because the police came into every house,

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we had searches in all the houses at once,

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they drove a lot of police from the region, the

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police came from the surrounding villages and

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searched all the houses, when the

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searches in all the houses ended, they

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arrested then Three the servant's brother

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with sweaters and two uncles. We gathered all the

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children and adults to our minister's house

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because the search there was still delayed

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and when we got there there was a lot of

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police, they arrived on buses,

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but when they took our brother's minister out,

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I was 11 at that time. years old I remember

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how the guys and I

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just lay down under the wheels of a funnel

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so that they wouldn’t take us away,

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well, the police pulled us out on one

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side, pull us out on the other, someone would climb in

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and that’s how it happened, they couldn’t

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take us away for some time,

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then the parents told the children because

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already

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we went away and took away the

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servants of two yacons, then they arrested them,

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then literally within a

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month and a half they arrested seven more brothers, they

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caught them right on the road,

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they stopped them, they took the documents from

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the car, the police brought them in and there they straight away

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drew

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from 5 to

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a year, someone was given three and a half to

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four and a half to the

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servants they gave 5 each

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and took the brothers all the brothers took them

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all over the Soviet Union from

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Arkhangelsk to

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Lensk Arkhangelsk then and Krasnodar

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Krasnogorsk brothers were sitting everywhere

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but the church was strengthening at that time and at that

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time we didn’t have any of the ministers left

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and since there were no ministers then my

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father and another brother was just put

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into

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service

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and they were already serving

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the church further you had prisoners who did not

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return alive

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no we all the prisoners returned alive and

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we had a brother my grandfather

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is Samuel

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Walter himself

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This is my father’s father when before all

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these events when the authorities arrived,

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the police came and he, since he

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was older in age, he was

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60 years old at that time, they considered that he was the eldest and the

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leader of the church, and

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he ended up in the hospital,

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that is, they injected him with a very strong poison, and

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when the funeral was held, he was buried, then he

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walked there was heavy snow and he was already dead,

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probably a little more than a week. Because they

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held him for a long time, then they gave him his body and

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guarded them. They were afraid that we, well, since we were

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Germans, they were afraid that we from Germany would

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demand an expert on his death. Well, we,

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as Christians, did nothing of this. But

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when they buried him, it snowed very heavily,

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and now he had been dead for more than a week,

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and this snow fell on his face and

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melted,

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when they recognized him a little, they asked that

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it was very strong, I, who was in

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the body, then they killed him. And they thought that

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by killing him they somehow- then they

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intimidated the church, they intimidated the brothers, but

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it turned out the other way around. And after that,

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of course, the brothers became more, somehow

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they went without fear.

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Then these arrests began, which I

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told you about us, we were at that time I

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went to school like we were peers together,

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constantly

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after school and a moment came where our

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parents took us from school,

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they just came, my father, a few more

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brothers to school and they took us from

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school and we studied at home,

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our sisters taught us.

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But these are the events that happened, the

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church was holding a service when the

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brothers were arrested

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service They were constantly passing through the church,

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they didn’t stop under any

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circumstances, there were times when our parents

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were there very early

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because mostly on Sundays at 10

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a.m. the police went and the service

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began at 6 a.m. and when we were already going to

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the service, we saw how they were driving around looking for

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divine services with us the service

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had already ended. But there was such a thing that it

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was forbidden to hire people and they

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were forced to subsist on berries

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and mushrooms in the forest.

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Yes, this was because when the brothers were

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on fast, they took vacations at their own expense and

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were at home because they could

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have long fasts. but when

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they returned to work, they were basically

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all Pou fired under the fact that

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they allegedly did not want to work and were

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not hired; there were some where kind people

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who helped us. And mostly berries.

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They collected mushrooms; they collected roots; they chopped them; they

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handed them over; well, I remember here in the village,

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our brothers took us with them. We went around chopping

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wood, sawing wood, who would give us the lard,

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who would treat us to a can of tomatoes, and that’s how

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we survived. What advice were you given

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at that time? What advice were they given to make a

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deal with the authorities,

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to sign the law on registration, that there was

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nothing like that there we had even at such

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moments, even the senior ministers came and

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asked to leave and said that

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anywhere in the Soviet Union, wherever you

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say, Which church do you want, we will agree there, they will

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accept you, just leave

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it and stop it.

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Well, in order to leave somehow, ruin

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the church, then our parents were ministers at that time

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they said We

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can’t do this because at that time there were already

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10 brothers sitting and carrying out this

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ministry for especially the family of

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prisoners. They were like my father did not

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serve during the persecution when the brothers

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imprisoned his ministers and ordained him to the

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ministry in the first place. attention was paid

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to help all the prisoners also

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stayed

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in what year did your church hand over the passports

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and How did Germany seem to

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hand over the passports twice as far as I

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remember, I may not remember the

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dates exactly, but I remember Once they gave the passports and

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attached a fee of 50 rubles at that time

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And at the exit from citizenship because we

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wanted to go to any non-

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communist country because

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our parents told me so, my father

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said that he never wanted to include the

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Soviet Union if the children had not been taken away.

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If there had not been such

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strong oppression, we would have been allowed here to

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just listen, gentlemen. We would stayed then

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handed over their passports,

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exit, took to Moscow, sent to Moscow,

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packed, I don’t remember, maybe I

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even took something from my brothers and handed it over. Well, each

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passport was offered there according to the

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law, how we did everything as it was according to the

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law, 50 rubles

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had to be paid and sent

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then this was probably the

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first time before Andropov, because when

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Andropov came, I don’t remember now,

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the power changed and he came from the KGB and

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said the power had changed and now you

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can take your passports, at least take them

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back because we will let you out. Well, our

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parents agreed, they took the passports

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back and began to process them and then probably

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Became Andropov, I didn’t say that

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now we can’t do anything, you can

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hand over your passports again, whatever you want,

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do it, we can’t help you with leaving

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who our parents gave us passports for the second time

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and the second time when we handed it in,

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we received them. When we already received visas for Germany,

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how yours existed Civil

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life without passports pensions the birth of

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children registration of marriages registration of

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deaths Well and so on

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Civil life she pensions at that time there

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were few brothers pensioners I don’t

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know One or two were I don’t know how

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they were Maybe they even

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left their passports because that they were like

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newcomers, more people,

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and in the church, more than 30

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children were born at home,

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such a short moment, I want to say when

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when my grandfather was killed in the hospital, the

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authorities said that if they end up in the hospital,

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they will be punished there, our

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sisters, our mothers, they refused

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hospitals because my mother

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was in the hospital and my brother Until

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today he is a [ __ ], his

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right arm does not work well and his leg is on one

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side

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because my father was a Servant and they

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did it like that, they no longer hid it after

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that after this happened

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sister We completely abandoned the hospital,

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we had more than 30 children born, the

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sisters took them home with prayer, they

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wrote them down, we had a journal and

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today I still have it at home, a notebook that

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is written about the birth of all children and there are

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signatures of the deacon and with the sweaters, in fact,

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we kept metric records. It was the parents who

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signed child's name mom dad

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signed signed deacon

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signed In the light And keep this notebook

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until we started

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leaving Germany when Before we

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started leaving for Germany our

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parents returned our passports using this notebook We went to

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the registry office and wrote out a birth certificate using this notebook

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that is, they recognized How officially

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because there were no others

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for what spiritual values did the brothers go to the

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muse such a serious price were paid by 10

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prisoners at the same time

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the price was paid service to the Lord

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came first and the question, as I already

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said at the beginning, of children

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and the question of registration independence from the

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state dependence from the state

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this was very important and especially the issue

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was children your ministers understood that

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the church should be separated from

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the state and not cooperate in any way

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only only

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legislation religious cult

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your ministers did not recognize no because

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it is the word of God because the church

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we understand that the church belongs to it

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only Christ and only Christ has the right to it,

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no country in the world

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has the right how did you

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end up in Germany in what year did the first

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family graduate in 87

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These were several families that left, I myself

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moved with my parents in 88 we

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moved Well, we still have an interesting

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moment families of prisoners began to be released from Germany,

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and the prisoners remained in prison;

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several families left; their wives and

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children left and were met in Frankfurt

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at the airport; at that time,

00:20:56

they also took their husbands; and

00:20:59

when they released the brothers from the camps,

00:21:03

they then came themselves Germany

00:21:06

Well, since our church was very

00:21:10

friendly and when they released

00:21:15

our elder minister, another brother was still in prison,

00:21:18

several brothers were still in prison, they

00:21:20

told him we are giving you a certain term, I

00:21:24

don’t remember exactly three days or a week

00:21:26

that you left the Soviet Union. Here you go

00:21:28

passport all documents leave,

00:21:31

he said I won’t leave so quickly

00:21:34

while he says you won’t release the last

00:21:36

prisoner until I go through the churches and

00:21:40

dedicate my sisters’ brothers.

00:21:42

That is, he probably stayed for three more months

00:21:44

and waited until the

00:21:47

last brother was released and then they

00:21:49

arrived together in Germany,

00:21:52

in fact, your entire church

00:21:55

ended up in Germany and you all stayed

00:21:58

together, yes, the whole church ended up in Germany

00:22:02

except maybe your three grandmothers

00:22:05

who could no longer move and even the

00:22:08

Russians. Who were that is, when did this

00:22:11

whole movement start because they

00:22:13

interceded a lot for us in the West we

00:22:16

passed on information and when this

00:22:19

movement began, we were asked to submit lists of

00:22:21

all church members whom we want to

00:22:25

move and the brothers submitted everyone and Russian

00:22:28

Belarusians, we were

00:22:30

national people and everyone was given the go-ahead to

00:22:33

move to Germany and when we arrived

00:22:36

in Germany that is We were already there

00:22:40

trying to be there somehow not to

00:22:43

get lost in other communities. Well, in other

00:22:46

churches we decided to wait for each

00:22:49

other and get together and decide how

00:22:52

we should move forward. What difficulties did you

00:22:55

encounter in Germany?

00:22:58

Germany received us very well,

00:23:00

gave us benefits, we were alone of the first at

00:23:04

that time, the eighty-seventh eighty-

00:23:05

eighth year, the camps identified us. Well,

00:23:09

when we went

00:23:11

to ask for land. When the church had already

00:23:13

gathered, the

00:23:14

brothers went and turned, found a place

00:23:17

not far from Frankfurt, asked for land,

00:23:19

we were allocated land to build houses,

00:23:22

we began building houses and a prayer

00:23:26

house,

00:23:27

we built for literally once in two and a

00:23:30

half years in three years 18 houses

00:23:33

prayer house Well, life went on we

00:23:36

began to hold services of course the

00:23:38

attitude of the Germans was good towards us

00:23:40

but they said you will live with us and you

00:23:44

will become like us Time will pass,

00:23:46

only time is needed

00:23:49

but when we went to school school

00:23:52

curricula in Germany already at that time

00:23:56

the child brought a

00:23:58

textbook for probably 3-4 grades in this

00:24:02

textbook there was a complete description of

00:24:06

sexual Enlightenment Yes,

00:24:09

the child must completely explain what

00:24:12

happens when it is connected with childbirth,

00:24:15

all of this And when Our parents

00:24:18

saw this then they just tore out the sheets

00:24:21

so that the children wouldn’t see all this, well, when the

00:24:25

children went to school and the teacher saw

00:24:28

Leskov No, what is

00:24:30

No, mom and dad threw them out, they called the

00:24:34

parents, they called the Ministry

00:24:36

of Education,

00:24:38

My father and my wife’s father went,

00:24:45

and when they started saying that we don’t

00:24:48

agree with this We want our children They

00:24:50

say here is a state program you

00:24:52

can’t do anything but the opposite of how

00:24:55

we in Russia defended our children They didn’t

00:24:59

give them to the communists They wanted to decompose them too

00:25:01

he tells you this is not Russia

00:25:03

Germany is a country of laws we

00:25:06

will take all your children If you raise them like this

00:25:09

and you don’t see your children anymore,

00:25:11

then our brothers did our

00:25:14

membership ministries

00:25:16

and raised the question of what we should do next,

00:25:18

that is, in Russia somehow God

00:25:21

helped us resist this issue.

00:25:24

Having arrived to the West, we again found ourselves in such a

00:25:27

difficult situation. and we prayed that the Lord would

00:25:29

enlighten us to move somewhere where we

00:25:32

could have our own school, have our own

00:25:34

lands, raise our children in the teachings of the

00:25:37

Lord’s instructions.

00:25:39

Well, the brothers came to this moment;

00:25:50

land and

00:25:53

so our resettlement to Canada began.

00:25:58

That is, I lived in Germany from 88

00:26:01

to 92 for 4 years

00:26:03

in what composition did you come to Canada

00:26:07

How many of you were there? The soul [ __ ]

00:26:09

came to Canada probably

00:26:12

families. I can’t say for sure now,

00:26:17

but probably

00:26:18

family 30 35 like this I came on what

00:26:23

principles did you begin to serve here?

00:26:25

What principles did you lay as the

00:26:27

foundation of the future church?

00:26:30

Well, we laid the foundation for the

00:26:33

preservation of our children

00:26:36

generation so as not to lose children not

00:26:40

to lose grandchildren in Germany we lived very

00:26:43

well we built four-story

00:26:45

houses We had a prayer house right in

00:26:48

the middle And there were all the houses around, that is, the

00:26:51

living conditions in Germany were very

00:26:53

good. I just got married there, three

00:26:56

weeks passed. My wife and I moved, we went to

00:27:00

Canada, you know this, well, whoever has been to Germany

00:27:03

knows how clean and orderly it is And then we

00:27:07

arrived to the farm, small house,

00:27:10

dirt everywhere, and so we began to live. Well, they did

00:27:13

n’t look at it because our goal or

00:27:16

principle, as you say, was to preserve

00:27:18

children, to preserve service to God and

00:27:21

to be independent

00:27:22

from the world and school and ministry, so that the world

00:27:26

could not touch and educate our children

00:27:31

How have these principles been implemented in your

00:27:33

practical life in Canada

00:27:36

today? Here we live, we have

00:27:39

several churches with one church, since

00:27:43

we have many children, our families are multiplying,

00:27:47

we bought more land, more land, and

00:27:51

today we have 5 churches like this

00:27:53

in each church there is a school with its own

00:27:56

minister, young people we communicate. So we communicate with

00:28:00

each other and gather together. And so we

00:28:04

carry out the ministry ourselves, well, they are in every place, it is

00:28:08

very important. This is a school we have brothers and

00:28:11

sisters, church members, teachers who also

00:28:14

completed certain courses, received

00:28:17

documents and this school does not teach until the 9th grade.

00:28:22

and it is recognized if a person wants to

00:28:25

go further to study, he can enroll

00:28:28

in further education to go,

00:28:31

that is, basically this is how we serve God, having

00:28:35

our own farm, the children are always nearby,

00:28:38

we hold divine services

00:28:41

[music]

00:28:57

[music] the

00:29:02

Canadian government

00:29:03

allocated forest plots to the settlers,

00:29:07

hundreds of hectares of virgin land, here they

00:29:11

built They created their own settlements, five

00:29:13

churches, the service is conducted in

00:29:16

Russian, they built private

00:29:18

educational schools, they teach children using

00:29:21

Mennonite textbooks until the ninth

00:29:24

grade, they live far from cities and

00:29:27

raise their children in the spirit of the Gospel

00:29:29

in the villages. They run an extensive farm.

00:29:32

They have their own sausage shop. They are

00:29:35

obsessed with meat. and that's all

00:29:37

[music]

00:29:40

ostrich farm

00:29:46

pig farm

00:29:51

chicken farm

00:29:56

Furniture shop their own wheat Mill

00:29:59

bakery

00:30:01

their own equipment for cultivating fields and

00:30:04

farming

00:30:06

their own diesel power station

00:30:09

their own gas station and their own

00:30:14

playground for children and a church cemetery

00:30:16

But the main thing is that they live according to the principle of the

00:30:19

trans-apostolic church, they have everything it was

00:30:22

common And no one called anything theirs We

00:30:27

came to the country with a

00:30:30

certain idea of our

00:30:32

good future This is how you

00:30:34

imagined it, your idea was realized,

00:30:36

everything was realized in your life

00:30:40

when we came here,

00:30:42

as I said, I was very young, my

00:30:45

parents

00:30:47

were and the whole goal was to preserve service

00:30:52

to the Lord, everything else. Yes, we wanted to

00:30:54

somehow live like this together,

00:30:57

take care of each other, help each other so that we could

00:31:01

fulfill the Word of God, not only in

00:31:03

words but in deeds, live for each other, that

00:31:07

is, today we

00:31:10

we live, we live for each other, we help each

00:31:12

other together, we do a lot of work

00:31:16

together, we work together, we carry out all the ministries and

00:31:20

our children are with us. Of course, there are those

00:31:23

who go out who may not

00:31:26

like it because they are also in their own order

00:31:29

somehow. We want to preserve this teaching. That

00:31:32

which our parents passed on to us the

00:31:34

spiritual Heritage of our fathers, what is this for you?

00:31:38

But exactly what they taught us is that

00:31:41

they passed on to us this Faith in the Lord,

00:31:44

steadfastness

00:31:47

and to be separated from this world,

00:31:50

separated from the state, to be

00:31:52

independent, and we wanted to preserve this and

00:31:55

pass it on to our children,

00:31:57

you manage to keep it independence from

00:31:59

the state,

00:32:01

we are currently

00:32:04

not registered anywhere and do not have

00:32:08

any Of course, we comply with all

00:32:11

government regulations, those that do not

00:32:13

contradict the word of the flesh, all taxes We are the

00:32:15

same as all people, but when it comes to

00:32:18

service, it was during a pandemic,

00:32:22

our service did not stop Neither

00:32:24

We didn’t cancel it once. And as they

00:32:28

served, they continued until

00:32:31

today, that is, we are completely

00:32:35

independent in service from the state

00:32:39

and

00:32:41

our school is registered under the

00:32:45

Nanite programs, there is such a

00:32:48

Mennonite program. We asked them, We

00:32:51

order books from them, but There was such a moment

00:32:54

when we arrived in Canada,

00:32:56

the state found out that we had many children, they

00:32:59

came to us and offered to build a

00:33:02

free School right on our land and

00:33:06

send free teachers and the school was

00:33:09

completely crying, then we refused

00:33:12

it, we said We will build the school ourselves at

00:33:15

our own expense We ourselves will pay for the

00:33:17

teachers’ textbooks, we don’t want

00:33:19

this program and we found the program.

00:33:22

All the books are like that, you look at very

00:33:25

decent pictures, decent ones, that is, the

00:33:28

minanic program is in

00:33:29

America in Canada

00:33:31

and we use it,

00:33:35

how do your children find work in life,

00:33:38

how do they find themselves at the end schools

00:33:41

we have our own work as our own business

00:33:45

we run a string company we

00:33:49

buy trucks and work for other

00:33:52

companies then we have a forestry company forest

00:33:55

fell equipment our brothers carry timber in

00:33:59

the forest work cut trees, that is, we

00:34:03

try to be somehow independent

00:34:06

from some large companies and our children

00:34:10

they also participate in this, and some

00:34:13

younger children They participate in the fallow

00:34:16

work of

00:34:18

equipment, a lot of very tractors, combines,

00:34:21

harvesting in the summer, there are a lot of people in the fields

00:34:24

here, children from childhood

00:34:27

89-10 years old, they already ride a tractor, they already

00:34:30

help to work dad to repair

00:34:34

Well, there is a lot of livestock, caring for the livestock too

00:34:37

And the children are involved in all this, you

00:34:41

maintain mutually reinforcing ties

00:34:44

with Christians who also understand the

00:34:47

narrow path like it is in other countries

00:34:51

There is such a place for promotion, I

00:34:53

always

00:34:54

love it very much, communication with all who fear

00:34:58

the Lord, that is, there is everywhere the people of

00:35:00

the Lord are in every nation

00:35:03

and we maintain contact with all those

00:35:05

who fear the Lord with all those striving for

00:35:08

separation, especially the churches

00:35:12

that are separated from the

00:35:14

state from this do not go a little then

00:35:17

we support

00:35:19

with such a people Tell us briefly your

00:35:23

understanding of the narrow path the narrow path of the 21st century

00:35:26

that this is me I think that the narrow path is

00:35:30

following Christ, but following

00:35:33

Christ as it is today, if we as

00:35:36

Christians today do not understand

00:35:38

that we are strangers on this earth,

00:35:40

then it will be very difficult to follow Christ

00:35:43

if I am a native inhabitant today, considered

00:35:46

Canada or America or Russia or

00:35:48

Germany It will be very difficult for me, I think

00:35:51

that the narrow path is when we

00:35:55

understand that heaven awaits us and so that I am

00:35:58

not met in this life by the well-being of

00:36:01

sadness and sorrow, I must go through all this

00:36:05

and follow the Lord, you understand that eternity lies ahead,

00:36:11

of course preserving those principles that

00:36:14

once our parents passed on the

00:36:17

ministry of the Lord to us. And this courage,

00:36:21

you know, when I go back a little,

00:36:24

one moment once

00:36:25

when there was persecution. I

00:36:28

look back now. We were 10-12 years old. We

00:36:31

had no fear. Why was there no fear

00:36:34

because a black woman came to us? Volga

00:36:36

And this is the black Volga, the neighbors all

00:36:39

ran away from it, the KGB

00:36:42

came out from Vladivostok. My father came out and he had no

00:36:45

fear and I stood next to him and

00:36:49

the head of this KGB cards, even if you take the child

00:36:51

away, you don’t need to let him stand there and watch and

00:36:56

my father talked to them like that you they imprisoned

00:36:58

our brothers they imprisoned well,

00:37:01

Vladimir Maybe you and I Samuilovich will

00:37:04

talk to you, have a short conversation,

00:37:06

let go, take it and we will talk

00:37:08

no, you can go, closed the doors, left, and

00:37:12

when I saw this, I

00:37:14

had no fear, I wasn’t afraid of them

00:37:16

somehow. It wasn’t from my fathers. This is how it

00:37:18

was passed on to us and we would like to

00:37:21

pass it on to our children too. This is courage, you know,

00:37:24

firmness, especially when it was touched by

00:37:26

this pandemic, how many churches have been closed,

00:37:28

how many churches

00:37:33

have turned the holy sanctuary of the bread of breaking into blasphemy, you know,

00:37:36

and it is very painful, and we are somehow

00:37:39

trying to pass on any

00:37:41

circumstances to the children today good today

00:37:43

well-being tomorrow they will close the prayer

00:37:46

house we must gather in nature but

00:37:49

serving God it must remain it is

00:37:51

not treason

00:37:55

you keep in touch I was burned by

00:37:58

Christians in China we have contacts

00:38:02

with brothers from China of course due to the

00:38:06

pandemic it is very difficult to get there

00:38:09

impossible but we support communication with

00:38:12

them, and especially a brother who

00:38:16

lives with us from China, who served

00:38:19

time for the word of God, is now with

00:38:23

us, it is

00:38:24

of course very difficult there, there was

00:38:28

a church a little larger, they are home-based, they

00:38:31

tolerate underground, but when there was a

00:38:33

pandemic during a pandemic,

00:38:36

they split into several small

00:38:39

groups because it is very difficult and because of

00:38:41

the pandemic due to the fact that they are believers. Well,

00:38:45

persecution in China continues and there

00:38:48

is a registered church there which

00:38:50

basically shows that everything seems to be

00:38:53

fine as it was in the Soviet Union

00:38:55

when famous preachers came,

00:38:57

they gathered people, they showed that

00:39:00

persecution no, in fact, there are

00:39:02

brothers who are sitting there and we have

00:39:04

information, the data of these brothers, of course, the

00:39:07

connections with the language are very difficult to communicate Well,

00:39:12

through an interpreter We have brothers

00:39:14

who understand the

00:39:16

Chinese bro knows English well We

00:39:19

will find out through him

00:39:25

[music]

00:39:51

the reliability of this information that in

00:39:53

China there is a six-year plan for the elimination of

00:39:56

underground illegal house churches. That’s what the

00:39:59

brothers told us when we

00:40:02

were there, they said that for two years,

00:40:05

then another two years and two years for

00:40:08

destruction. That is, it turns out to be

00:40:11

voluntary forced and then

00:40:13

extermination

00:40:16

and it goes like this when we were there

00:40:19

brothers so they asked us, we once said,

00:40:23

so we sat among the brothers and we say we

00:40:25

will pray that God will grant you

00:40:27

freedom here, as it was in the

00:40:30

Soviet Union, they said brothers, don’t

00:40:33

pray for God to give you freedom,

00:40:36

pray for us to stand in these

00:40:39

sorrows [music]

00:40:54

What is the current situation of Christians in Canada

00:40:57

if the prisoners are closed or to this day

00:41:00

houses of prayer in Canada

00:41:04

today everything is open and houses of prayer are all

00:41:07

open as far as I know that there are

00:41:11

no prisoners there were times when during the pandemic

00:41:14

several people were taken away and

00:41:17

churches were closed for today day

00:41:20

we have all these restrictions lifted and we are

00:41:23

holding services so we are visiting

00:41:25

the church

00:41:26

at the moment Freedom what do

00:41:30

you most need today what do you

00:41:31

need

00:41:33

I think the most we need is for the

00:41:35

people of God to pray

00:41:38

for the younger generation and probably some

00:41:43

changes should not come to life

00:41:45

in Canada, especially where we live, so that it will

00:41:49

somehow give a little shake-up to the youth,

00:41:51

so that the youth and we ourselves understand that we are

00:41:54

still on a narrow path because the

00:41:58

long 30-year Freedom has somehow

00:42:02

dragged on and the generation that it

00:42:05

grew up or was born here and grew up not

00:42:09

another they didn’t see they hear Yes only

00:42:11

the testimony of parents but maybe

00:42:14

the Lord will also honor us with this right

00:42:17

to suffer for him and it’s worth it for our

00:42:20

children to take part in this too, that is, to be

00:42:23

somehow suffering when the difficulties of

00:42:26

experiencing the church approaches the Lord

00:42:29

and we really need this in order to

00:42:31

get closer,

00:42:32

I wanted to say this is all the

00:42:34

evidence of how our

00:42:38

brothers the church experienced persecution, especially that all the

00:42:42

Glory belongs to God All the glory And

00:42:47

everything that happened, it all belongs to the

00:42:49

Lord I’m just saying a little bit of such

00:42:53

expressions that like this it was like

00:42:55

this we did it, we did it That is, when I

00:42:57

say we, that is, it is the Lord, all this

00:43:00

belongs to the Lord and we ourselves, if

00:43:03

the Lord were not with us, as it is written,

00:43:06

Israel would have been swallowed up alive, oh the

00:43:08

Lord spent only the Glory belongs

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