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Well, now we are moving on to one of the00:00:02
main topics of our conversation that was00:00:04
announced: the mistakes of the West specifically00:00:07
regarding Russia because00:00:10
sanctions were introduced, but we see that I00:00:14
cannot say that sanctions do not work. But00:00:17
actually, let me ask you whether they work00:00:19
or not, well, look00:00:21
just a week ago, I don’t want to00:00:23
deal with the crane itself,00:00:25
but we released00:00:27
a report that was written by a00:00:30
small team of00:00:33
seemingly decent people, including Demyan00:00:35
Kudryavtsev, Dmitry Gudkov, me and00:00:38
several other colleagues. And the big one turned out to be a00:00:41
text of more than 100 pages regarding00:00:43
whether sanctions work and, of course,00:00:45
conclusions our sadness, firstly, we must00:00:48
admit that in past times, and00:00:52
against smaller countries, sanctions00:00:55
that were not sanctioned by the00:00:57
international community were not00:00:58
universal enough, they00:01:00
practically never worked,00:01:03
and in the year when Obama wonderfully stated00:01:07
that the Russian economy00:01:09
had already been destroyed, we saw how great it was there is a00:01:12
dissonance between statements and00:01:15
reality, and in my opinion, from that00:01:18
experience there was already quite00:01:21
enough time to draw00:01:28
lessons, the question is why they were00:01:31
introduced, if they were introduced so that00:01:33
Putin left Ukraine with his tail between his legs, then00:01:37
I don’t know who you had to be to00:01:39
think that it is possible it00:01:42
was impossible from the very beginning That is, it was possible to00:01:45
worsen the situation of the Russian population00:01:49
by undermining separate sectors of the economy this00:01:51
was done by the automobile industry is absent00:01:55
prono00:01:58
humiliated00:02:01
with00:02:02
mim is absent00:02:05
through Istanbul00:02:10
Yerevan Belgrade you can get to the00:02:12
outside world and so on This was done by the Armed Forces00:02:14
but to assume that from -for00:02:16
this, Putin will change his policy to mine00:02:19
was impossible from the beginning. This was, as it00:02:22
were, Bosch’s first big trial, there are no00:02:27
sanctions in order to strike00:02:30
a blow in this in this in this and in this it00:02:33
was possible their effectiveness but since it was00:02:36
said in advance that sanctions are intended00:02:38
to destroy the Russian00:02:39
economy and force Putin to leave00:02:41
Ukraine and end the war, then from now on,00:02:43
when you set the task like this,00:02:45
the answer is unequivocal. They are ineffective, they did not00:02:48
give the result that you00:02:50
expected, it is very dangerous, always in the economy, the00:03:01
setting of such a thing is inflated in any way a landmark that00:03:04
cannot be reached And after that, at some stage, the00:03:07
terrible00:03:10
vanity of that began. Yes, something didn’t work out. But00:03:14
that was because we did something00:03:15
little. And not like that, let’s do00:03:16
more and so on and so far dgo00:03:20
package that will soon be adopted everyone is00:03:22
trying to do00:03:28
more The problem of sanctions policy00:03:31
today is that the stated goal remains the00:03:33
same and the fact that it is impossible to00:03:36
achieve and whether it is00:03:37
recognized or not is another question it00:03:40
really leads to discrediting the00:03:42
sanctions00:03:44
policy what went00:03:49
wrong everything went wrong only again just00:03:53
now You see, I don’t know how to00:03:56
explain this on some fingers, yes, that is,00:03:58
we are saying let’s say00:04:01
pom00:04:06
progo our intention and we understand the00:04:09
possibility of00:04:12
ato meeting Oku sma We decided to go and00:04:16
say to00:04:18
Baikal T Pechko it’s clear that it’s impossible00:04:28
dock good day beautiful But the goal00:04:32
that you announced to everyone around I will achieve00:04:35
cannot be That’s actually what went00:04:38
wrong you set the bar you set a00:04:41
benchmark that00:04:44
cannot be achieved and began to be children again If we talk00:04:47
about partial problems Yes here are the00:04:49
obvious ones Yes I would say Three big00:04:58
ones no side consequences That is00:05:01
you say we are declaring an embargo on00:05:03
Russian oil because Russia00:05:05
supplies us with a huge amount of its00:05:07
fuel there, 40% of gas and 70% of00:05:12
Russia's gas exports went to Europe before the war of00:05:14
70-72, we are now cutting it off,00:05:17
again I repeat, the Europeans have never00:05:19
imposed sanctions for gas, but it was supposed, but00:05:21
now the northern flows have exploded there,00:05:22
now Russia will be in a difficult00:05:25
situation and we will cut off the oil because the00:05:27
huge supply from oil,00:05:29
mainly Masha, to Europe was blocked, what00:05:32
happened next while you were00:05:34
blocking it and they blocked it, let me remind you, for 1000:05:36
months the goal has risen so much that00:05:38
Putin, so to speak, filled his00:05:40
suitcases Well, not those suitcases that00:05:43
he carries, but more important ones Yes, for a couple of years00:05:46
ahead, plus you did an00:05:49
amazing thing, you said, you know, we00:05:52
ska, in the tradition of medieval monasticism,00:05:54
we will torture ourselves to buy oil,00:05:57
expensive gas from America at three times more expensive,00:06:01
but these vile Russians Let them sell00:06:03
their Neftegaz somewhere else and state00:06:06
they went to India to China and00:06:08
actually gave the Europeans gave these00:06:10
countries to their international economic competitors00:06:14
Well, yes, 100 billion euros per year due to the00:06:18
discounts00:06:19
that Russia began to give That is, you00:06:21
overpay your opponents get it00:06:24
cheap Well, that’s what this idea was,00:06:29
so I also said the Chinese, especially the00:06:31
Indians and especially the Indians Yes, the Indians, I00:06:35
uh, back in April at the end of March twenty-00:06:39
two,00:06:41
and speaking in Berlin at a00:06:44
conference organized by Mikha00:06:45
Boch Dakhovsky said that it is necessary to00:06:47
buy gas and oil in Russia as00:06:49
much as possible as cheaply as possible, and also introduce00:06:53
a certain Solidarity tax within the European Union,00:06:55
let’s add on this00:06:57
cheap price three more00:07:00
from Ukraine for making a profit on the00:07:03
resale of the end consumer in00:07:04
Europe you but it will be cheaper than gas at00:07:06
3000 euros at 3000 dollars, and you will00:07:10
finance the war against Russia00:07:13
with this money and you will not give00:07:16
additional benefits to anyone else00:07:18
it was directly said00:07:21
that I’m sorry Yes, it was a brilliant proposal00:07:25
because I just imagine how00:07:27
Kremlin00:07:30
I don’t know, all I can say is that00:07:32
I was commissioned to report on this topic, it00:07:35
was written, I can send it to you, it was00:07:37
paid for, this is what was said, you know,00:07:41
for political reasons, we00:07:43
cannot publicly voice these things,00:07:46
period There is populism,00:07:49
there is everyone running and I’m running and any00:07:53
other point of view is Taboo in Russia00:07:56
or Germany or the United States00:07:59
this is the politics of the modern world00:08:02
not Putin’s at all the second point00:08:06
again look Yes let’s say you00:08:08
say you want to deprive Putin of00:08:10
money if you deprive Putin of money or00:08:14
technology then you must act I would00:08:17
say consistently in this direction,00:08:20
let’s say We want to cut00:08:21
Russia off from the world00:08:23
economy What connects Russia with the world00:08:25
economy most strongly is information00:08:28
flows,00:08:30
that is, on the second day of the war, you should00:08:32
have arrested Russian assets00:08:34
abroad, what did you do And on the third day00:08:36
war You had to cut down all the00:08:38
Internet servers of Russian companies, that00:08:41
is, in Russia there are no domain names, there are no00:08:44
companies that assign domain00:08:46
names on the Internet of the first level. That is,00:08:48
virtually all Russian north Yandex00:08:51
Sber VS anyone sits at the addresses00:08:54
providing the back of the00:08:58
company00:09:01
od00:09:03
Bazhe00:09:06
Vro Russian Internet the government website or00:09:10
not working may be res some time of00:09:14
the month a branch of Sberbank,00:09:16
imagining as in Soviet00:09:18
times the points around which queues00:09:21
were drawn out for a kimet patch00:09:28
Commune of00:09:29
Russia It all has the ability to00:09:32
localize your any I precisely shows00:09:36
your geoposition, you can be in00:09:38
occupied territory and it works00:09:40
Why does it work, you can turn it off with00:09:43
one click of a button that there is a00:09:45
territory on the map, all smartphones,00:09:48
computers that are located in this00:09:50
territory, they are simply00:09:58
blocked,00:09:59
that there should be no money in Russia, so that there00:10:02
is no money in Russia, you need to pray for00:10:04
those who are taking them away from Russia That is, you00:10:07
First of all, they should have not00:10:09
closed Mastercard visa cards, but00:10:12
on the contrary, cancel the commission for issuing00:10:14
cash abroad Let the Russians00:10:17
who fled from there take as00:10:19
much money as possible, don’t leave it in00:10:20
Russian banks, you’ll be00:10:28
completely safe guys, give00:10:31
us more billions, kick them out of Russia,00:10:34
run away from there together with your money00:10:36
don’t support Putin the answer was00:10:39
the opposite only in the last 800:10:42
months there 50 billion dollars were you back00:10:45
from Europe to Russia Because people even00:10:47
without finding a sanction of course of course00:10:51
the middle of the second year in the00:10:53
middle of ml dollar Yes the European Commission00:10:56
returned back to the Federation people and those00:11:00
who lived in the euro and had assets there began to00:11:03
sell them money, bring them back00:11:05
simply because they understand even the00:11:07
sanctions No now they could be tomorrow00:11:09
What good to expect there, that is, you00:11:13
yourself I’m not talking about personal00:11:15
sanctions, that’s a separate conversation That is00:11:17
you really say guys No, you are all not00:11:20
very good, we don’t need your money,00:11:27
go00:11:30
and the last question that00:11:32
raises me the most is the00:11:34
same personal sanctions00:11:38
because you see, there are00:11:39
several points here, I talk about them all the time,00:11:42
and that excuses me in00:11:44
many ways, I say long before the00:11:49
war, the entire Western system is based00:11:55
on the00:11:57
law of law. This is for Putin and law is00:12:00
for the Western world, and this is00:12:02
the rule of law, first of all it00:12:04
assumes that you cannot have a00:12:05
rect activity of application. That is, if00:12:08
you say yes, what are you looking at Russia00:12:10
violated international law and started a00:12:12
war, everyone who works today today with00:12:17
Mr. Putin are00:12:19
criminals and helps economically00:12:21
because they work with00:12:24
our dictator, military00:12:26
actions, but Dasha that the ass arises there is no00:12:31
reverse application You are right Yes, but00:12:34
look And what is said there according to00:12:37
what something to the Russian oligarchs But 600:12:39
years ago he helped Putin do this and that,00:12:43
but 5 years ago you look at how he00:12:45
supported a united Russia there or00:12:47
something else But he came to00:12:49
meet with Putin six times last year Sorry00:12:52
d last year, Western entrepreneurs00:12:55
came to meet with cougars a lot of00:12:57
times, European00:12:59
legislation appeared, we removed the word oligarch,00:13:01
we created the concept of a large Russian00:13:04
entrepreneur paying high taxes00:13:07
to Putin’s treasury,00:13:09
they finance I recently tried to sing an article in France, it was00:13:12
not possible, it said00:13:15
Wait, why let’s say what Some00:13:17
major Russian entrepreneur00:13:18
is under sanctions and the leaders of the00:13:21
Auchan company and Total, which are larger than00:13:24
Russian taxpayers,00:13:29
because of inflation, yesterday the company00:13:31
issued a message that its00:13:33
suppliers in Russia should not raise00:13:35
prices until the New Year because it will00:13:37
support the efforts of the00:13:39
Government of the Russian Federation in the00:13:40
fight against rising prices Yes, and there00:13:43
the company Total supplied almost 400 million00:13:47
euros worth of equipment components for00:13:50
Arctic LNG after the start of the war, and00:13:53
these companies, their00:13:57
leaders, are00:14:00
punishing some Russian citizens, that00:14:03
is, the EU, you have another passport and you00:14:05
are helping them wage a war, you wonderful00:14:09
person here there is not a single application of00:14:11
the law to all00:14:14
potential00:14:17
criminals There is no here there is00:14:20
reactivity and there are00:14:27
absolutely sanctions in relation to one00:14:29
person and in relation to another Yes,00:14:32
let's say relatively00:14:33
speaking there is such a wonderful person00:14:36
Senovich Kudan and who Sorry if00:14:39
we forgot about reactivity brought00:14:41
Putin from St. Petersburg to Moscow put00:14:44
him into service in the Kremlin promoted his00:14:46
career created a reserve fund took the00:14:49
money of the Russian regions gave their00:14:51
federal budget then accordingly00:14:53
worked00:14:55
as the head of the Accounts00:14:58
Chamber for many years the nearest Mr. Vladimi00:15:00
Vladimi and he receives sanctions when00:15:02
when about goes to work for some00:15:04
company Yandex, well,00:15:06
my friend, why is it like that, that is, here is the Supreme Court00:15:11
as for personal sanctions, this is00:15:13
one big distr because you have00:15:16
no system and the most important thing00:15:19
you understand You used to have a law, you00:15:27
said it or soot and accusations he00:15:31
can go to court and defend himself Yes, the00:15:33
criminal department, the prosecutor's office00:15:36
brought this charge, now this00:15:38
charge is not being brought by the prosecutor's office,00:15:40
it is brought in America by the Ministry of00:15:42
Finance in Europe,00:15:44
the European Commission, you do not have a formal00:15:47
law. Do you have some kind of00:15:49
framework document that you need to00:15:51
counteract Russia through00:15:54
sanctions for which00:15:57
we deduce Lyub Especially this is done very00:16:00
often according to the dictation of Kiev, which has00:16:02
its own material interests in this matter And00:16:05
this is impossible to oppose now or it has00:16:07
already ceased to be I think that at00:16:11
full00:16:12
speed it is good to eat You see, here is my00:16:15
feeling that there is a00:16:19
total total undermining of legal rights00:16:22
the foundations of the West when let’s say it’s said that00:16:24
let’s punish the Russian00:16:26
oligarchs this is not Formula D00:16:29
when there was a list of fakes and he00:16:32
made a slip of the tongue Russian oligarchs list00:16:35
Force fortune above 1 billion You are a00:16:38
Russian oligarch and then00:16:41
sanctions have already been imposed against almost all of you Sorry, but what elements00:16:45
of the crime Here Previously, we had00:16:48
a category Here is the Stalinist approach, the00:16:51
fists of everyone in Siberia And why exactly them00:16:55
because the neighbor showed them the window00:16:57
of the fist, that’s the same thing and why Now00:17:00
the West is becoming better There is a mauna who00:17:03
punished all landowners00:17:05
there The Stalinist system that talked00:17:08
about all00:17:10
the counter-revolutions re Well where is this Well again00:17:15
I’m not Can I just add00:17:18
because no because right at the00:17:22
beginning they said Now the oligarchs are Oda00:17:25
and as a result T will throw off00:17:29
their feet And in fact in the00:17:32
end this led to the fact that recently00:17:34
Friedman returned to Moscow for me it00:17:36
was a very big sign because00:17:40
Friedman is a person who00:17:42
knows how to think strategically very well and this00:17:46
means from my point of view not that he00:17:49
decided he has money and here and there it00:17:53
means that he figured chances and looked at00:17:58
what the Russian economy looks like and00:18:00
looked at its prospects in00:18:03
the West and in general came to a non-comforting00:18:07
conclusion, look, I’m a question not a question for00:18:12
many people, let’s say let’s not00:18:15
take Andrei00:18:16
Melnichenko there, a man lived in Switzerland for 1000:18:19
years, incorporated00:18:28
accordingly, after that he left,00:18:30
managed unknown ways for us to obtain00:18:33
citizenship of the mined Arab Emirates00:18:34
in itself is not such a simple task, but00:18:37
I tried there for another six months and in the00:18:39
end went back to Moscow because00:18:41
I realized that it was absolutely pointless to00:18:43
do anything without challenging the sanctions00:18:45
decision and not reaching an agreement in any way,00:18:48
you know, and the Russians oligarchs They00:18:50
know the group very well and understand the group That is,00:18:53
good If you told them friends So we00:18:55
arrested your property worth 15 billion00:18:57
dollars00:18:59
and you understand Why Because Russia00:19:02
started an aggressive war We believe that00:19:05
if you give a third of your fortune00:19:09
to support Ukraine the sanctions will be lifted00:19:12
you you will be declared an absolutely additional00:19:13
businessman Yes, this is Sorry, this is WF00:19:16
T, an unexpected change in the situation, we have00:19:19
been telling you for 20 years, all our auditing00:19:21
companies earned a million dollars on you,00:19:23
they say that all your money is00:19:24
absolutely legal, but something00:19:26
has changed, something has changed, we00:19:28
said that nothing changes for us, but00:19:30
something happened These are the conditions. Here00:19:33
you are, let’s determine whether you are ready for this or00:19:35
not, but no one00:19:38
said this. That is, when they tell you00:19:41
that you are accused of some kind of Crime, you00:19:43
have the opportunity ahead to00:19:45
compensate for the damage caused Yes, reach a00:19:47
settlement agreement, go to prison,00:19:49
pay a fine, something else, an alternative,00:19:57
you even seize the property again - This is not00:20:00
taking it away, taking away the property there of Friedman00:20:03
and even the Bank of Russia will be insanely difficult00:20:06
in Europe. That is, even you cannot00:20:09
pass a sentence, you are simply leading an00:20:11
endless investigation that you yourself,00:20:13
so to speak, how many times has the Western press00:20:15
and our beloved democrats00:20:17
said how many times that Putin is what a crazy00:20:19
man He can prolong the00:20:21
preliminary00:20:23
investigation for years, this is the same00:20:27
here and plus you finally understand If you00:20:29
say yes, okay Give me the money, you’re00:20:32
white fluffy again a person will give it back,00:20:34
then another person will give it back, then someone00:20:35
in Russia will think Damn, I have00:20:37
some money there in the West in Russia,00:20:39
something can be taken away from me, let me00:20:40
run there now, I’ll come to an agreement with them,00:20:42
I’ll pay off and I’ll live in peace.00:20:44
Everything’s fine for me. enough for a lifetime and you00:20:45
have a split, people begin to think:00:20:48
What’s better than sitting here and waiting? When they00:20:50
come for you from some stratum00:20:52
that makes you a manager, or so to00:20:54
speak, understand that it’s still better00:20:56
to leave, but that’s not a choice Putin would00:21:00
just make00:21:01
He responded mockingly to this by saying,00:21:03
guys, come back. Pay a00:21:06
ten percent tax there on excess00:21:08
profits. That is, you are on one side of the00:21:11
scale. Give a third of the money and we will think00:21:13
about lifting the sanctions. But here, add 10% of the00:21:17
profits and live in peace, well,00:21:21
people are00:21:27
smart that you can’t import car shampoo00:21:30
That’s all Why Well listen to00:21:34
this, in my opinion even the European00:21:36
Parliament has already realized and called on the European00:21:38
Commission to00:21:40
lift all sanctions related to the import of00:21:43
personal property of Russians including00:21:44
cars I don’t know why I don’t know00:21:47
why you understand I, again, I I don’t know00:21:48
why. You can explain00:21:50
why Finland prohibits the entry of Russians with00:21:53
Schengen visas across the border near00:21:57
St. Petersburg. Yes, you can take a plane and00:22:00
fly to Istanbul from there. it’s00:22:06
also00:22:08
easy to walk any of its beautiful00:22:10
views, but you can’t cross the border.00:22:13
You can drive in from the backyard, this is00:22:15
great wisdom or something. What do you want to00:22:17
take 2000 euros for tickets out of a Russian’s pocket? It’s00:22:19
great. You’re enriching the00:22:21
Turkish line. What have you been doing for a00:22:24
year and a half? I think everyone there the day00:22:26
should begin with prayer For the Glory of the00:22:27
European Union In this company But what else have00:22:31
you achieved is easy to understand Maybe I00:22:35
can’t, but actually I have a question,00:22:38
if I sum up your speech.00:22:41
By the way, I’ve never thought about this, you00:22:43
really just now You00:22:45
said it absolutely correctly I realized that there00:22:47
were no oligarchs No00:22:48
conditions were set except for Kafka’s castles, that is,00:22:51
go there Prove I don’t know what this00:22:58
means to us at all This is an amazing story00:23:01
that, well, ruined the reputation of the West00:23:05
because in the West, in fact, in00:23:07
Europe there is not much00:23:09
economy left, a significant part of the economy00:23:12
what they were selling was precisely00:23:13
this stability in the future. Yes, they00:23:15
sold it to all sorts of corrupt officials and00:23:17
oligarchs very often, but yes, this was the00:23:20
product that they00:23:22
traded, which means this story with the00:23:25
Russian oligarchs, which was00:23:29
unconstructive, the story with Russian00:23:31
oil, which ended with Putin00:23:34
accumulated crazy money, just crazy,00:23:37
stocked up in his suitcases And all the profits00:23:41
and all the difference went to the competitors of00:23:44
the West. Why, well, I have to say honestly,00:23:48
when you said that you would turn off00:23:50
all domain names, I just00:23:52
shuddered because I thought that00:23:54
of course, it would just be a sickle to solder00:24:01
to Putin If the Sun were00:24:04
early, we had the impression that we00:24:07
created it ourselves, that Putin lives in a00:24:10
parallel Universe, and the fact that00:24:12
Putin appears to the Russians doesn’t matter at all.00:24:15
Well, you know, I wouldn’t say that because,00:24:18
firstly, it would cause economic00:24:20
damage much00:24:23
more00:24:26
for00:24:28
you. a war begins,00:24:31
you announce that the country that is fighting the war00:24:34
should be isolated from the outside world,00:24:37
you00:24:38
turn off domain names, you00:24:46
are resisting,00:24:47
and moreover, Russia is the only such00:24:51
crazy country that, even before the war,00:24:56
this00:25:00
avo domain level, even China did00:25:04
not trust Russia so much before that not a00:25:06
single Russian company has such I didn’t00:25:09
receive the right and naturally such an answer, in00:25:11
my opinion, would be completely logical from the point00:25:13
of view of the West; instead, you are00:25:16
studying how you can take away00:25:18
Russian money that is under your00:25:20
jurisdiction00:25:26
guys, in essence, you will00:25:30
jeopardize the guarantees of your bank deposits,00:25:33
the right to00:25:34
property, friends, this will never happen00:25:36
It happened even in the case of Iran under00:25:39
UN sanctions and the United States00:25:42
kept the money and the00:25:47
unfreezing of the confiscation of Iranian00:25:49
money from the sanctioned amounts was00:25:52
when the American00:25:54
court and the government made a00:25:58
decision in favor of a number of American00:26:00
citizens who suffered from the terrorist00:26:03
activity of Iran, they were recognized as00:26:05
victims. compensation was determined by the court,00:26:07
this money was written off from the00:26:09
seized accounts And if you take away the00:26:12
Russian money of the Central Bank,00:26:14
Sorry, Europe will lose the trust of any00:26:18
investors for a decade to come And00:26:21
the Europeans, as you rightly said, they have00:26:23
always worked to park00:26:26
de00:26:34
in general without end and00:26:37
theft of Araf is dry occupied the poet of00:26:41
the hotel and kept the dollars ban BC it was00:26:45
great steal your own pale But00:26:49
accordingly the Russian00:26:56
oliko Why are all these measures that00:26:58
led to the fact that Putin returned 5000:27:01
billion, that the money did not run away from Putin and00:27:06
that the Russian oligarchs began to00:27:07
return instead of00:27:09
unfollowing Putin and that Putin00:27:12
received gigantic money, I don’t know00:27:16
how if all the measures were taken00:27:18
differently, this would have led to some kind of00:27:20
creatures, but in any case,00:27:25
what is called this is not a reason to do00:27:28
completely wrong actions, the00:27:29
question arises why00:27:33
they were so insanely wrong actions00:27:35
related to sanctions00:27:39
Well, look again. In my opinion, this is a00:27:44
consequence of the general growth of populism in00:27:47
politics, you do not set00:27:52
a goal to offer the most balanced00:27:55
decision, you set a goal to live the decision00:27:58
that will cause maximum00:28:00
public resonance, that’s all I have, the00:28:04
only00:28:08
answer is that Mao Orde would get the maximum00:28:11
Zelensky If he started talking00:28:13
about how to regulate the price of00:28:14
Russian oil, he got nothing and the00:28:17
spotlights are full of joy00:28:21
Well, actually, that’s just00:28:26
like, wait, then the most00:28:29
terrible question arises because this is00:28:32
precisely in connection with the return of Friedman, I’m00:28:34
looking at the actions and not only00:28:37
regarding the Russian-Ukrainian war,00:28:39
but also regarding Israel and Palestine00:28:41
and actions regarding China.00:28:44
Yes, I am beginning to have an00:28:47
unpleasant doubt that in the current00:28:51
world situation, when the country is led by a00:28:54
group of purposeful people,00:28:58
this may turn out to be, as it were, they00:29:02
can achieve his is much better00:29:05
than good, lovely people who think00:29:09
about how to get likes today or00:29:10
elections tomorrow and how to get votes in the00:29:17
elections you can e I mean I00:29:21
mean that a purposeful tyrant like00:29:23
Putin and even more so because Putin00:29:26
is purposeful00:29:34
and even Putin, in a00:29:37
sense, he turns out to be winning00:29:40
strategically, winning over00:29:43
democracies, the level of decisions of which we00:29:45
just00:29:47
discussed the Armed Forces is correct and strategic,00:29:50
they are superior, and00:29:56
over a long period of time,00:29:59
after all, democracy and the market system are00:30:02
more effective and these00:30:04
enlightened tyrants they are in00:30:09
Ultimately, this is their tyrannical approach. It00:30:11
destroys the base on which they sit.00:30:14
I have certain thoughts here, I’m00:30:17
thinking about how to describe them well, but I have00:30:20
n’t taken up this matter yet.00:30:22
But everyone is comparing the00:30:25
situation. Yes, they00:30:27
are looking for analogies there, someone says that00:30:30
this is the period of Chernenko’s death and00:30:33
Andropov there they say that these years all IT are00:30:36
historical Nagas, in my opinion the00:30:38
twenties can be very similar00:30:40
to the war years of the last century because we00:30:44
remember the end of the Cold War when00:30:45
the Soviet overstrained itself and collapsed, and00:30:48
Russia is following exactly this ways00:30:50
because the resource is not00:30:51
limitless,00:30:54
maybe00:30:56
15 on the other hand, many of our00:30:59
colleagues forget that in00:31:00
1989 another very00:31:01
interesting event happened, not only did00:31:03
communism collapse in Eastern Central Europe,00:31:05
but00:31:06
there was also a catastrophic, annihilating00:31:10
crisis that actually put an end00:31:12
to the Japanese economic model. It00:31:14
seems to me that just the end of the00:31:16
twenties he can put the same two00:31:18
hard crosses on Russia and China00:31:21
because both the Russian political00:31:23
model and the Chinese economic model are00:31:25
bursting at the seams in my opinion, but if this00:31:28
happens, then we will see that00:31:29
tactically these wonderful autocrats00:31:31
won So opening the Jaws00:31:34
fell out And strategically they still00:31:36
lost, I can’t assume that00:31:38
strategically And for 10-2000:31:41
years there and Putin, having destroyed Russia, can00:31:44
win from the West, this is not given to me00:31:49
[music]00:31:56
to assume00:31:57
[music]00:32:07
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