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sick people, but also in the Ark, according to political00:00:06
scientist Vasa Galam, it is called the00:00:08
Kremlin project for the evacuation of the power00:00:11
elite of Russia after the victory of Ukraine, a00:00:14
really interesting question: Which00:00:17
countries will accept these people, where can they find00:00:21
refuge in these, in principle war00:00:24
criminals I would like, of course,00:00:27
not to meet with them during further00:00:28
relocation, let's talk about this with the00:00:31
political scientist himself about Asungalimov about00:00:33
Hello00:00:34
Hello Well, of course I understand00:00:37
that this information is based on sources, but00:00:40
it sounds very interesting, firstly, it00:00:43
says that people who today00:00:45
they govern Russia are not entirely confident in their00:00:48
own Victory And therefore they are thinking about00:00:50
some other territories where they00:00:51
can escape,00:00:52
and of course it’s interesting that they are already practically00:00:56
working on this project, if you believe00:00:59
what you say,00:01:01
first of all, it does00:01:04
n’t quite mean what I wrote00:01:07
you formulated and said about the evacuation00:01:10
after the victory of Ukraine, I was talking about00:01:14
what will happen after the fall of the regime,00:01:17
these things are00:01:19
largely connected, that is,00:01:22
defeat in the war with Ukraine will certainly00:01:24
greatly weaken the regime and most00:01:28
likely lead to a fall out, but still00:01:30
these are not synonyms then there is, taken in its purest00:01:33
form, defeat in Ukraine, strictly00:01:36
speaking, is not yet a reason for00:01:38
evacuation, but when the regime00:01:41
crumbles then yes then we will have to00:01:45
step up, which means there really is00:01:49
no confidence in the final Victory. There really is no confidence there, it00:01:52
really00:01:54
means00:01:56
they are all at a loss for00:01:59
confidence in this project, but I’m there00:02:02
right away when I wrote this text I00:02:04
made a bunch of reservations, I00:02:07
mean we were in the course of something that what the00:02:11
source told me is true00:02:13
recently, I’ll even say honestly, moreover, I00:02:15
wrote the text last night and this00:02:18
morning00:02:19
another source also very well there00:02:23
you know the situation wrote what the00:02:27
vice president means Rosneft Kurilin, who is00:02:30
in charge of this project, according to my00:02:32
first source, in fact, he00:02:35
left for the USA and then went to Venezuela,00:02:38
not at all because he is00:02:41
involved in the implementation of this project, but00:02:43
he simply escaped, he has00:02:45
American citizenship and therefore he00:02:47
simply escaped from Russia and they say he00:02:52
left the section without any instructions. That00:02:55
is, I will00:02:56
immediately repeat that the information is so00:03:00
unverified. But since it00:03:04
seemed so topical to me, I00:03:07
still decided to publish it precisely00:03:09
because this is what you said. Yes,00:03:13
because this is a clear indicator that00:03:16
they are in the final Victory in general, the survival of00:03:21
the regime is not sure, which means as long as I know00:03:28
that Well, again, according to my00:03:30
source, two of Putin’s oligarchs00:03:33
appeared in this project,00:03:35
Yuri Kovalchuk Igor Sechin, about00:03:39
the participation of others, my interlocutor00:03:43
didn’t just talk about it, I asked, he said, I00:03:46
don’t anymore I don’t know about anyone, but it seems like they were talking00:03:49
about the fact that this is a collective00:03:50
project, not everyone is on their own. But00:03:53
Putin’s entire bureau, so to speak, and so they00:03:56
choose different options, China suggested,00:04:00
but with China it turned out to be very bad00:04:02
food,00:04:03
they turned out to be guys like that00:04:08
say to yourself in your mind That's00:04:10
who could have predicted so to say Here00:04:13
they are after they saw that00:04:16
Putin's Russia turned out to be a paper00:04:19
tiger but in general they are now talking through their lips from00:04:22
high above In general, there is no00:04:24
confidence that if you end up in China00:04:26
you will not be extradited from there or there if they don’t take off00:04:30
or undress, it means there is no confidence,00:04:33
so this project is considered not very00:04:36
successful, and against this background00:04:39
Venezuela appeared because Sechena has very good relations with Maduro and the00:04:43
President of Venezuela00:04:46
and it seems that accordingly there00:04:48
is hope that while Maduro is sitting, he00:04:50
seems to have sat there The Americans are sitting quite00:04:53
strong, even now they are00:04:55
starting negotiations with him and it seems like they are00:04:59
going to take him off, they are starting00:05:02
to soften it, that is, he is sitting firmly and if he00:05:04
promises ours, so to speak,00:05:07
the arrangement there is generally normal. Well, that means you can00:05:10
try00:05:12
without fish Iraq, fish are also called00:05:15
other countries like Argentina, but00:05:17
the details are again from my sources.00:05:19
So they didn’t tell me anything more00:05:22
specific about this. But I00:05:25
can’t say it’s00:05:27
interesting at all because we all00:05:30
remember the history of the fall of Nazi00:05:33
Germany when the Nazis also fled00:05:36
somewhere far away and fled to Argentina and00:05:39
tried to get lost there and they say that00:05:42
someone is still alive they laughed at me with my00:05:47
source about how history00:05:49
repeats itself when he told me about00:05:51
Argentina My first reaction00:05:52
was also region two, you’re going there, that’s why00:05:55
there too because they also00:05:58
know history to some extent they know00:06:00
that they didn’t issue it there, it’s far away,00:06:03
apparently it’s difficult to get there somehow.00:06:05
Well, I don’t know, I’ll repeat myself, here are some00:06:09
nuances for me. For00:06:10
details, they gave me something about China, something about00:06:13
Venezuela, about Argentina, I just00:06:16
didn’t say anything, and therefore, just, well, let00:06:20
’s not I will not comment,00:06:22
but the very fact of the potential existence of00:06:25
this project speaks of some new00:06:28
internal moods inside the Kremlin, as it were,00:06:34
Anna is not a New mood, in00:06:36
fact, the project began to be implemented, as00:06:38
I was told, which means approximately00:06:42
at least from the spring from March, as00:06:45
soon as it became clear that00:06:46
the blitz didn’t work out, that it won’t be00:06:50
possible to defeat Ukraine, that the West turned out to be00:06:52
much more consolidated than00:06:54
expected, that when, uh, well,00:06:58
massive sanctions began, when did it00:07:00
begin, so00:07:05
massive supplies of weapons to00:07:08
Ukraine began, well, then panic appeared there.00:07:11
Well, that is, they are in the end00:07:14
all are not final reasons Well, there are00:07:16
probably final pictures But00:07:19
basically this is enough guys, but they00:07:21
understand that but it is impossible to win a war for the whole00:07:24
world, no one has ever00:07:26
succeeded, and supposedly the project00:07:29
began to be worked out then at the first00:07:31
stage, I repeat, the bet was made on00:07:33
China, starting somewhere in the beginning of summer00:07:36
in June, that’s when this00:07:39
Rosneft drug is smoked, which I was00:07:41
involved in with this project, disappeared from the00:07:43
company then in America, uh,00:07:47
work has already begun on the00:07:49
Venezuelan project, that is, Venezuela since00:07:52
June China before that Well, that is,00:07:54
supposedly smart April, in00:07:55
fact, it’s already underway. That is, it’s not00:07:57
like a-a new project. I wouldn’t even00:08:00
say that it clearly00:08:02
indicates that they are already, well,00:08:05
everything is there, we’re giving up, we’re preparing Escape and00:08:10
chances we don’t have no, it’s just that maybe there is a00:08:13
backup option, that is, they, in principle,00:08:15
still00:08:16
expect to retain power, in00:08:18
fact, even more, I’ll say the same00:08:20
persons involved, ah, but this is the successor, I00:08:23
know they are working on it, and00:08:25
the topic of the00:08:27
option is the Ark. Sorry, but00:08:29
they’re working on the option successor, that00:08:32
is, they Well, they just don’t put their eggs00:08:35
in one basket, that is, it is clear that00:08:37
they will try to hold on to the slice until00:08:39
the last, that is, it is clear that this project is this00:08:42
Noah’s Ark Well, this is the project00:08:46
like this Forever As a last resort Yes,00:08:48
which they for themselves they don’t include it and00:08:50
just in case, they have started some kind of preparation,00:08:51
but this does not mean that they will00:08:54
give up tomorrow No, of course. They will hold on00:08:56
to power, they will be there until the last00:08:58
turn, so overthrowing the regime00:09:01
will not be such an easy walk, of course.00:09:05
This project creates another important00:09:08
question. who are the00:09:10
authorities today, those states that are at least00:09:13
moderately loyal to Russia? or00:09:35
something to the00:09:39
people from Moscow because even00:09:42
Lukashenko is our eternal Partner. It seems to me that if anything happens,00:09:45
cases of failures will be the00:09:48
first to disown Of course, no, you can’t rely on it, but00:09:52
I think you see, China also00:09:54
seemed so impossible to00:09:55
rely on. But that means00:09:58
I would also name, in my opinion, maybe00:10:02
some -there are also small00:10:03
African regimes there,00:10:07
which means00:10:11
you can try to strengthen yourself00:10:13
somehow, I don’t know. But00:10:17
the ones that come to my mind00:10:19
first of all, of course, are North Korea, but it’s00:10:22
bad there. You fall into00:10:24
such endless dependence on one00:10:27
and a madman, yes. So what? it will come to his mind,00:10:31
you don’t know, there’s a00:10:32
system there. It’s too centric,00:10:36
it all depends on one thing. You remember00:10:37
the story of how he shot his whole uncle there,00:10:39
and so on, which00:10:40
means in this sense, Iran until the last00:10:45
moment seemed like a good option,00:10:46
but you see he’s the last three months of himself00:10:49
it’s sausage and it’s not a fact that it’s a regime,00:10:53
that is, it’s weaker until00:10:59
September before the start of these events, in principle,00:11:04
Iran seemed quite00:11:06
reliable in the sense that last00:11:10
year a year ago they elected to replace00:11:13
such a moderate,00:11:20
you know, technocrat00:11:22
Well, the not very00:11:24
conservative Rukhani was elected This means that00:11:27
Russia is absolutely ultra-conservative and00:11:31
such a regime began to tighten the screws. Well,00:11:34
everything here is as Putin likes it and it00:11:36
seemed that, well, that is, they squeezed00:11:39
out of the politics analogues of our local00:11:41
happy our Russian ones, or that means they have00:11:44
their own00:11:45
reformers and it seemed Well, on the00:11:48
surface it00:11:49
seemed that such a consolidation of00:11:52
the regime this regime happened at the same time.00:11:54
The good thing is that a-and it’s not very00:11:57
enocentric. There are different groups of00:12:00
influence, even the supreme one, Alania00:12:02
is such an undisputed leader00:12:04
like she and Putin, for example, or like the00:12:07
North Korean Kims have always been, here he is there,00:12:11
power is much more00:12:14
limited other groups and in this00:12:17
sense Well, if you’ve gone away enough and you have00:12:20
a lot of money, in principle, maneuvered between00:12:21
groups and you can secure for00:12:24
yourself there Well, such a00:12:26
relatively stable00:12:28
existence, that is, it will not be such00:12:30
that you have become dependent on00:12:31
some crazy idiot That’s00:12:34
why Iran, until the last moment,00:12:37
did not seem like the worst option,00:12:40
and there, in principle, there is such a general poverty of the00:12:44
population and that means the weakening of the economy00:12:48
is actually an Oasis and absolutely00:12:51
secular means, uh, the sweet life is00:12:55
longer than something. And there, well, in00:12:58
principle, it’s possible It’s not bad to live and have money00:12:59
in general, and not so luxurious somehow. Of course, they00:13:02
’re used to it there in Russia, but00:13:05
still, well, it would be better if North Korea is00:13:10
exactly right. Well, now, since he’s staggering00:13:12
very much, so00:13:14
now there’s certainly less hope for him But00:13:18
so- then in general the choice is not clear In00:13:21
fact, Well, you know, I didn’t, I didn’t specifically00:13:23
study this issue, I didn’t, the situation in00:13:27
some countries It’s very good In00:13:29
some, it’s absolutely I don’t know, I’m not00:13:31
an international specialist, that’s why Well, maybe there are00:13:33
still a few states there,00:13:35
three four five Maybe where,00:13:37
theoretically, they can, uh, go Well,00:13:40
especially in Africa somewhere, I think there,00:13:42
in the end, they00:13:45
have been exploring Africa for several years and I think they00:13:48
understand much better than me where and what is00:13:50
happening there and where What opportunities exist,00:13:52
so it is possible somewhere in Africa they are00:13:54
digging.00:13:57
Let's hope that we will catch this00:13:59
moment when they are rushing around the world00:14:01
in search of a00:14:02
new safe homeland. So it was the00:14:05
political scientist Galyamov who told us00:14:08
about the Project. Well, in the Ark, the Kremlin00:14:11
leader is thinking through a plan for the00:14:14
future when it possibly happens this is00:14:18
a violent, apparently change of power They00:14:20
will have to flee the country and now they are00:14:22
wondering where to run, you00:14:24
hope that they will be found there tooDescription:
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