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friends, good evening,00:00:19
with your permission, I00:00:22
will tell you the topic of our00:00:27
conversation today: the Nazi genocide of the00:00:29
Soviet people, which is not in Russian00:00:32
textbooks, and I would also add why, and00:00:36
here we need to00:00:38
say a short preamble, why00:00:41
today we must prove the genocide of the00:00:44
Soviet people, in my opinion, from seeing00:00:46
The main reasons for the former were that the very concept of00:00:48
genocide did not exist as a legal00:00:51
term during the Second World00:00:54
War and finally00:00:56
entered into international legal use00:01:00
only in 1948 when the00:01:03
United Nations Convention was adopted.00:01:05
This happened on December 9,00:01:08
1948,00:01:10
the convention was called on the prevention00:01:12
and punishment of the crime of genocide for00:01:14
him and there, genocide received its00:01:18
definition, which has remained unchanged00:01:20
to this day. I have00:01:22
very important details in this definition, it is quite00:01:24
broad, I will give the beginning of genocide,00:01:28
these are actions committed with the aim of00:01:33
destroying in00:01:35
whole or in part an ethnic00:01:38
national racial or religious00:01:40
group as such, based on this00:01:43
we will look at the definitions today, whether00:01:44
there was a genocide of the00:01:46
Soviet people, a genocide of Russian00:01:49
Ukrainians, Belarusians, or is it a crime00:01:51
of Allah, with the fact that this crime,00:01:53
fortunately, no one argues, but maybe of a00:01:55
different type, this is the first point,00:01:59
remember that during the Great00:02:00
Patriotic War, the concept of genocide did not00:02:02
exist did not exist as a00:02:04
legal term during the00:02:06
Nuremberg trials and therefore the word00:02:10
genocide does not sound there in the materials of the Hungarian00:02:13
trial, but00:02:18
its meaning is in the tunnel,00:02:20
well, from the thing that00:02:24
in the post-war period the concept of genocide00:02:27
was completely appropriated as a crime00:02:30
completely against peoples in the pre-war00:02:33
period, for example, genocide was officially00:02:36
recognized a number of states in 15 Armenians in00:02:39
1915 on the part of Turkey it was recently00:02:41
recognized by Germany, if you don’t know00:02:44
also Germany and which00:02:47
United Nations organization recognized the genocide of00:02:49
African tribes on the Guerrero poppy in the00:02:52
territory of modern Namibia00:02:54
committed in00:02:56
1904, thus there are very00:03:01
clear examples of00:03:03
extending the concept of genocide to a00:03:06
phenomenon that occurred before the00:03:08
official00:03:10
legal definition appeared,00:03:12
and besides, in the Soviet Union, by the way, the00:03:16
concept of genocide was also naturally00:03:18
used if you open, for example, a00:03:21
large Soviet encyclopedia, you00:03:23
will read there this definition and example,00:03:26
as the most striking example, there is the00:03:28
bonding of the Slavic and00:03:30
Jewish populations during the second00:03:32
world war, that is, the concept of genocide and the00:03:34
idea that there was a genocide of00:03:36
Jews and Slavs in the Soviet Union was quite00:03:38
tortured,00:03:40
but here we move on to the second reason00:03:43
why we have to prove this today, this00:03:47
reason is to00:03:49
give the tone, but unfortunately00:03:52
the Soviet historiography did00:03:54
not develop issues of planning00:03:57
genocide and the00:03:59
Soviet era did not come out, but also00:04:02
a monograph that proved that00:04:03
the Nazis’ crimes on the territory of00:04:05
the Soviet Union were carried out,00:04:07
firstly,00:04:09
corresponding to the goal of destroying the00:04:12
ethnic national group of the Soviet00:04:15
people, the Russian people, the Ukrainian00:04:16
Belarusian people, and secondly, everyone recognized00:04:20
that they were absolutely monstrous00:04:22
crimes, but it was not proven that they00:04:25
were directed specifically against an ethnic00:04:27
or national group, and00:04:29
after the Soviet Union collapsed,00:04:32
many publicists of that historian00:04:36
also began to prove that the victims of the environment and the00:04:38
Slavic population of the Soviet00:04:40
non-Jewish population were victims of00:04:43
partisan war, they were victims of00:04:46
political persecution, that is a00:04:49
crime was committed but during the00:04:52
commission it was destroyed there is no00:04:54
national group as such,00:04:57
however, there are facts that cast00:05:00
doubt on such an interpretation00:05:02
and doubt about this was first expressed by00:05:05
foreign scientists. It must be said that we00:05:08
often scold the British and Americans and00:05:10
Germans for distorting the00:05:12
history of the Great Patriotic War and00:05:15
sometimes it is fair, but at the same time it must be00:05:17
admitted that it is foreign00:05:20
scientists who have now developed the topic much deeper than00:05:23
domestic historiography,00:05:25
which we do not discuss,00:05:27
most of these works, to my great00:05:30
regret, have not been translated into Russian,00:05:32
meanwhile they are fundamentally00:05:34
monographs of Christians and heroes and00:05:36
read by murder, almost 100000:05:38
pages of which are dedicated to00:05:40
the crime and the nation of the Nazis only00:05:43
on the territory of Belarus this work by00:05:45
Alex Ke is the work of Christoph Diekman00:05:48
called and they will have to Ali and other00:05:52
historians, it’s not their period that they are not00:05:55
translated into Russian this is00:05:57
extremely sad and even strange00:05:59
because what we are talking about there is, first of00:06:01
all, a crime against our00:06:02
people, and this is such oblivion,00:06:05
acronis, silencing, I would even say, but00:06:09
fortunately,00:06:11
domestic historians are still working, you probably00:06:14
read the brilliant book of my friend00:06:16
Alexander Dyukov, what the00:06:18
Soviet people fought for pioneer of this topic, and00:06:20
it was this book that prompted me to00:06:22
dig further and figure out what plan00:06:26
for the destruction there was 3 Rhine to00:06:29
exterminate the Soviet population and00:06:31
it existed, and in principle,00:06:34
that such a plan in any case could00:06:37
have been,00:06:38
we learned back on January 7, 1946, when in00:06:45
Nuremberg There was an interrogation of this00:06:47
person, very important for our story,00:06:50
this is a former00:06:51
Obergruppenführer with a general of the SS and00:06:55
police or a fondant at the base of Leski, who00:06:57
was appointed on the eve of the invasion of the00:06:59
Soviet Union by Heinrich Himmler xrm with the00:07:03
highest Fuhrer from the position of Belarus and00:07:06
central Russia,00:07:08
Arifon Borze Leski surrendered to the00:07:11
Americans00:07:12
from the very beginning he expressed his readiness00:07:14
to cooperate,00:07:16
of course, a big role in his readiness00:07:19
was played by the desire to survive because00:07:21
his hands were up to his elbows in blood, but after00:07:24
reading his00:07:26
multi-page testimony in00:07:28
American captivity,00:07:29
I translated them and have now prepared00:07:32
publications, I hope that they will be00:07:34
published this year journal of00:07:36
Russian Eastern European00:07:38
historical research, this will be00:07:40
the first publication of these testimonies, which are very00:07:42
interesting, so familiarization with his00:07:45
testimony revealed another reason why00:07:47
he was such a revelation and00:07:50
it sounds unexpected, the fact is that00:07:53
when Germany was plundered and the00:07:58
international day began to be prepared,00:08:00
the imperial taught that Almost the entire00:08:02
military elite of the Third Reich began00:08:05
to assert, and this myth then00:08:07
crystallized, that she had nothing to do with it, she did00:08:11
not take any part in the00:08:13
crimes of Nazism and was to blame for everything, and that’s why00:08:17
they00:08:20
carried out the destruction,00:08:22
he probably didn’t know anything here, but as you00:08:25
remember in the dock in00:08:28
Nuremberg turned out to be higher and00:08:33
Wilhelm Keitel of this model, in00:08:36
a sense, Hermann Goering who00:08:38
was the chief of the Luftwaffe, and the prosecution,00:08:41
including the American one, had00:08:43
the task of convicting them at that moment, and the00:08:46
American prosecutor Taylor was looking for00:08:49
witnesses who could00:08:51
testify against the military and to reveal their00:08:54
true role in the crimes of Nazism00:08:57
go to the Americans Erich von00:08:59
Donbass Leski turned up ready to tell everything and00:09:02
his second motivation was00:09:04
that he was terribly shocked that the00:09:06
military was trying to avoid punishment00:09:10
that he knew perfectly well that they were00:09:12
involved in any case no less than00:09:14
SS men and in his testimony there is an00:09:17
amazing phrase, he says that he00:09:20
will not spare his life or what is left of it so00:09:23
that all those guilty of00:09:26
crimes receive a well-deserved00:09:29
punishment, that is, because of the Silesian dogs, the00:09:31
gelatin of the former colleagues in00:09:34
crimes of the former accomplices was00:09:36
even told to00:09:37
leave from the noose and behind and the conclusion and00:09:41
therefore he was ready to tell all the details00:09:43
and in fact his00:09:45
testimony, in any case in the part00:09:48
that did not concern him, helped him00:09:50
reliably enough to help himself and he00:09:53
took it and shielded himself, of course, but he00:09:55
handed over his former accomplices to00:09:57
full program and00:09:59
the Americans didn’t just put him in the00:10:01
dock, they checked his00:10:03
testimony, they arranged a powerful bet of 10000:10:06
Singer with another famous German00:10:09
general of the Wehrmacht and00:10:12
in the end they realized that a significant00:10:15
part of their 8 case boxing does not lie,00:10:17
and on January 7, 1946, his The00:10:21
interrogation and interrogation that I had with Taylor00:10:25
concerned the crimes of the Wehrmacht, but00:10:28
after Taylor the00:10:32
Soviet prosecutor Yuri Pokrovsky began to interrogate him universally,00:10:35
and00:10:38
during the interrogation of Pokrovsky,00:10:40
Vasilievsky said things that00:10:43
apparently were not intended for00:10:45
interrogation, but in fact, to the Americans,00:10:47
great-grandfather, great-great, this is also they talked about00:10:50
this, I’ll tell you a little later and so00:10:52
what did he tell in English, he00:10:54
said that shortly before the invasion of the00:10:57
Soviet Union there was a will of Heinrich00:11:00
Dipper from Ferrari in the castle of Vegas Burg00:11:03
where the largest00:11:05
ranks of this black order were present, including00:11:08
you Syrian and there I I grant that Hitler said00:11:11
that the purpose of the campaign against Russia would be to00:11:13
reduce the number of Slavs by 30 million00:11:16
people, this plate is sanctions00:11:19
information, and this is how the world first learned00:11:23
that there was a plan to exterminate 3000:11:25
million inhabitants of our country.00:11:28
Yuri Pokrovsky asked Buck00:11:31
Segezhsky whether this plan was being put into00:11:33
practice in particular. maybe under00:11:35
the guise of00:11:37
anti-partisan operations because the court,00:11:41
of course, was aware that00:11:44
during punitive actions against villages00:11:47
and not only the partisans were destroyed directly,00:11:49
there was also mass extermination of the00:11:51
population.00:11:58
to the extermination of 30 million00:12:00
if they had continued to be used if00:12:03
the situation had not changed as a result of the00:12:05
development of events, let as a result of00:12:06
a turning point for us00:12:08
[music]00:12:09
Hitler by this moment, as you understand,00:12:12
was dead like Himmler, like now the SS,00:12:15
and the00:12:18
prosecutors tried to get confirmation of the sensation from the very00:12:21
the main Nazi who sat in the dock00:12:23
of Hermann Goering,00:12:26
who was the second man in the Reich,00:12:29
at least until 43, who was the00:12:31
official successor of the Fuhrer, led the00:12:34
war economy and, as I already said,00:12:36
the Luftwaffe, but Derek tried to turn00:12:40
the world into a daring process, his own00:12:42
benefit, he cleverly plundered the American00:12:46
Prosecutor Jackson having caught him with00:12:48
inconsistencies and contradictions, after00:12:51
his speech some newspapers came out with00:12:53
headlines gel video00:12:56
of course then David Max five00:12:59
British prosecutor a real bulldog and00:13:01
the grip and Roman Rudenko somewhat knocked down the00:13:04
arrogance of Gelin Gordeev irrefutable00:13:06
evidence of his numerous00:13:09
crimes but to Rudenko’s questions00:13:11
relatively planned, what about 3000:13:13
million, the shore stubbornly answered I don’t00:13:16
know anything, I’ve never heard of such instructions00:13:19
or orders,00:13:23
disputes about how much evidence on the00:13:26
power of haze sharp were reliably carried on00:13:29
for many years and00:13:31
in fact they began already in the00:13:33
rnb itself and one of the main aspects how the00:13:35
skeptics were acted out by an employee and the brutality of the00:13:38
leaves with a sock Nastya that propaganda and00:13:41
Hans Fritsch, who ended up in the dock at00:13:44
Nuremberg almost by chance, that00:13:47
is, the accusations sought to present a00:13:51
representative from each Nazi00:13:53
department in the dock, well, at least instead of from the00:13:56
propaganda department there remained waka00:13:59
since Goebbels put an end to ourselves, as00:14:02
you know, we decided to imprison this sound of00:14:05
one of his closest associates and00:14:08
collaborators, Hans Ritchie, who was00:14:10
much less influential, who00:14:13
knew less, and who, in the end, is why he was00:14:16
acquitted,00:14:18
so Hans, meeting after00:14:21
being freed,00:14:23
lived tomorrow in Germany, he wrote a memoir00:14:25
where he expressed the point of view that Pak00:14:29
Sidersky simply vrat just took00:14:31
[music]00:14:33
he describes the furnace conversation that00:14:37
he had with Babsy Levski after they were00:14:39
given to show the cutting to the desk, allegedly00:14:42
heatedly convincing that it was so,00:14:45
as he said, and00:14:48
then, in the end, one of the Nazis,00:14:50
too,00:14:53
who passed through process, how00:14:56
the witness went to you rural and00:14:58
asked him, they were00:15:01
assembling the lighting, then he returned and Jacopo told00:15:03
the following story:00:15:05
when00:15:08
the Americans interrogated Pansi Lensky,00:15:11
they showed him the testimony of personal00:15:14
1 tanto esperar00:15:15
with bright and go and told him that00:15:19
the paytor had already showed us that Hitler00:15:22
planned to destroy 40 million00:15:24
Slavs and supposedly on all children's tours he00:15:26
answered as 40 in total 30 and then had to00:15:30
admit that there was a plan00:15:31
to destroy 30 million Slavs I must00:15:34
tell you that the cross transcript of the00:15:37
interrogation protocols for the Ecumenical00:15:40
does not confirm this version of Fritsche and00:15:44
he heard this not but the most abrupt one from00:15:45
some unknown person,00:15:47
perhaps you will open 1tb, therefore, special00:15:50
confidence in the testimony of Fritsche get a team00:15:52
and he tried to convince his readers in West00:15:55
Germany in the late fifties00:15:56
and it happened so that00:15:59
Himmler hypothetically estimated the number of00:16:02
future victims of the war on the Soviet side,00:16:05
20-30 million, but the accusations tried00:16:08
to stitch up a00:16:10
case of genocide,00:16:12
but in fairness it must be said that00:16:15
in the Soviet Union, the testimony to the groin00:16:17
was written to the case00:16:19
instead of conducting research to00:16:21
verify them;00:16:22
Soviet authors, unfortunately, resorted to00:16:25
blogging;00:16:27
the most striking of this00:16:31
work Arkady Poltorak secretary of the00:16:34
Soviet delegation at the international00:16:37
military tribunal called the00:16:38
Nuremberg epilogue00:16:40
where he claimed that the words of the pope00:16:42
were confirmed and the shore allegedly declared00:16:45
Hitler made a speech hanging out for 3000:16:48
million Russians should be exterminated00:16:50
but in reality one and a half unfortunately00:16:54
only cleverly altered the real words of00:16:57
Goering when Roman Rudenko asked him00:16:59
about Himmler's directive, both aspirations of 3000:17:01
million are real, according to the transcript of the00:17:03
Nuremberg trials, the00:17:05
marshal answered it was not an order,00:17:08
it was just a parable, he himself did not00:17:12
hear it, he could not hear it, or the assembly was not00:17:14
present and the manifestations of the rivers soon00:17:16
learned only at the trial and00:17:19
today in In this00:17:21
case, I have already seen disputes about00:17:24
whether such a plan existed or whether it00:17:26
existed today, it is possible to construct it not even with a00:17:30
high degree of probability, but to00:17:32
categorically assert that such a plan is the00:17:36
beginnings and the key to00:17:39
finding this plan can be asking a question00:17:42
that, of course, should have been asked back00:17:44
at the Nuremberg trials Unfortunately,00:17:46
no one asked him why exactly 3000:17:49
million, why not 50, why don’t00:17:52
you be angry, this figure drowned, why did00:17:55
Hitler call00:17:57
him his nose and this figure leads us to a00:18:01
completely different person, to a person00:18:03
who is much less famous than Henry00:18:06
than Hitler and Goering, but in fact in fact, he00:18:09
is00:18:13
one of the most terrible Nazi00:18:16
criminals and this is one of the subordinates of00:18:18
your Hermann Goering, who00:18:21
knew very well the00:18:23
origin of this figure, I mean, or00:18:27
you know, he committed suicide but was00:18:28
sentenced to execution, he committed suicide00:18:31
and waited for the noose but in parallel,00:18:34
notes from the Italian00:18:37
Minister of Foreign Affairs Galean Sochi she00:18:40
took Benito Mussolini were published,00:18:42
which said that at the end of November00:18:47
1941 he had a conversation with Goering and00:18:50
Gehl told him00:18:52
this fall in Russia this winter in the00:18:55
coming winter in Russia from00:18:58
twenty to thirty million people will die00:19:00
maybe this is for the best, because00:19:03
some peoples need to be reduced, that is,00:19:06
the coast, regardless of Hitler, called the00:19:10
same number and such unanimity of00:19:12
unanimity among the leaders of the Reich absolutely00:19:15
could not be accidental,00:19:18
but to what person and to whom did00:19:22
the plan lead this figure avellana00:19:27
Herbert00:19:30
to act and I already said it was unlucky00:19:32
in terms of historical PR, he is not included00:19:35
in the public consciousness among the main00:19:37
villains, but in fact of death there is a00:19:41
very interesting person who, at the beginning of00:19:44
41, was to become the secretary of the00:19:46
Ministry of Agriculture and00:19:48
Food 3 market and he is also a native00:19:53
now and and it was amazing, everything is00:19:55
usually about among the natives of the Russian00:19:58
Empire who took a00:20:01
high place in the Third Reich,00:20:03
Alfred Rosenberg recalls, but he was not00:20:06
the only second, maybe even more ominously00:20:09
half a buck Bucky was born in the city of00:20:12
Umen in 1896 and was a representative of a00:20:16
very famous family in the Caucasus his00:20:18
grandfather's name was Friedrich Kaspar, whose goal is00:20:21
such a Caucasian German,00:20:24
one of the founders of the brewing business00:20:27
in the Caucasus,00:20:28
his factory is working astray and until now the00:20:33
fathers of the folders I was Albrecht in the tank, a Russian00:20:38
officer who married his daughter without salt and00:20:40
also came to the Caucasus, Baki received a00:20:43
very good education, he graduated from00:20:45
typhus risky gymnasium in Russian is it00:20:47
great, but his such a00:20:50
comfortable prosperous life was interrupted by the00:20:53
First World War and here we enter into00:20:58
some kind of00:21:00
period for that lady because in reality we don’t00:21:03
know what happened in 1914 Baki was00:21:08
arrested and interned as a German00:21:11
soldier captured,00:21:12
but what was the specific reason for00:21:15
this, we can’t say for sure, a00:21:19
huge number of Germans traditionally lived in Russia, the00:21:25
Germans rolled in 2 massively moved to00:21:28
Russia, the Baltic Germans00:21:30
occupied an important role in the life of the00:21:33
Russian empire and Boris Laden storm00:21:36
r1 for the Russian Germans even became00:21:38
prime minister minister during the First00:21:40
World War, but the field here affected the00:21:44
German phobias of the first months of the war when00:21:50
St. Petersburg Petrograd was renamed a lot of00:21:52
other things happened, either the tanks00:21:54
were really Germanic,00:21:57
maybe to a certain extent00:21:58
Russophobic, I know his subsequent00:22:01
statement in Giza and so he ended up in a00:22:03
prisoner of war camp,00:22:04
but one way or another otherwise this man, who00:22:07
looks so much like an accountant,00:22:10
was a prisoner of war of the00:22:11
Russian Empire in 1818 during the entire First World War, he00:22:13
is released and along the Red Cross line00:22:15
he moves to Germany, he moves here,00:22:17
and00:22:19
with great claims to his homeland,00:22:23
formal Suzanne hyip, a famous00:22:26
German historian writes that the observation of the00:22:29
Russian Troubles is confusing turned him00:22:32
convinced at Tiffany's, but refuse to00:22:35
read the00:22:36
papers published texts00:22:39
from the pen of this character, you understand00:22:43
that he did not hate the political00:22:45
system, or in any case, not only the00:22:47
political system, he hated00:22:49
Russia and the Russian people because his00:22:52
writings are full of derogatory00:22:54
contemptuous characteristics addressed to the00:22:57
Russians, the00:22:59
mini dress retained the interest of Russia00:23:03
in a professional sense and graduated from the00:23:05
Faculty of Agronomy and Tengin00:23:07
University and became a major specialist00:23:09
in agriculture, teachers and00:23:12
had an outstanding career, he00:23:15
first caught the eye of the record volter blow to the00:23:18
driver of the Ministry of Agriculture of the00:23:20
Third Reich, then barely 2 and was They are00:23:23
in very good standing,00:23:25
besides, Dad joined the00:23:29
Nazi Party in 1926. In no way can one be00:23:32
considered opportunists, on the contrary, he will say00:23:35
this, the old Nazis and in 1941 he00:23:42
becomes more influential than his00:23:45
boss in metal, and because00:23:49
Adolf really likes his analytics to Hitler,00:23:52
but this is analytics, on the one hand,00:23:54
deep intellectual, on the other00:23:57
hand, they began to sound alarming, what00:23:59
worries00:24:01
the package and what worries Hitler,00:24:05
when the First World War began, you00:24:07
know that more was defeated00:24:10
in just two or three weeks00:24:11
[music]00:24:13
events on the Western Front,00:24:15
Vasily, the nature of a strange war but00:24:19
Great Britain resorted to its original00:24:22
classical strategy which it00:24:24
applied during the First World War it00:24:27
blocked the German coast with its00:24:30
powerful Woolton Germany was00:24:32
extremely dependent on the air00:24:35
for food and when the gates the naval00:24:39
blockade became a fact pony two lives00:24:41
tobacco read that after some00:24:44
time famine could begin in Germany00:24:47
in any case, there is not enough00:24:48
food, but in general it’s already00:24:51
on the nose and he wrote under and in the00:24:53
forties at the beginning of 41 he already writes that00:24:56
this summer he will probably have to00:24:59
reduce the weight not of the diet of the Egyptian00:25:02
man in the street, but most importantly there are problems with00:25:05
grain and need to come from then take the surplus00:25:08
grain to close this hole that has arisen take00:25:12
it in Europe you can have such a position this is the00:25:14
black earth territory of Ukraine in the south of00:25:18
Russia and the northern Caucasus and this00:25:22
resource insufficient thirst for00:25:26
resources it ultimately becomes00:25:29
one of the factors one of the very important00:25:31
factors that is often forgotten00:25:33
in00:25:35
Hitler's campaign against the USSR00:25:40
and in this campaign the Nazis will00:25:44
solve not only a momentary problem.00:25:45
Peter wants to provide grain for the00:25:48
rest of his life, but he00:25:51
remembers millennia very well as a veteran of the First00:25:53
World War, he remembers very well 191600:25:56
1818 when Germany was starving when there00:25:59
was the so-called Brooklyn winter and00:26:02
he publicly says that00:26:05
he will no longer allow hunger for Germany, and Goering,00:26:07
which I will remind you is the head of the00:26:10
four-year plan, then Strukov Reznik’s00:26:12
houses are uttered by another fan of one00:26:14
phrase, he says that if in this war00:26:16
someone will go hungry, it will only be a German00:26:19
and00:26:20
so we all know the Barbarossa plan,00:26:24
but00:26:26
much less known is00:26:29
the economic plan of war,00:26:31
the economic plan of war under which the00:26:33
recreated organization worked, the so00:26:37
-called economic headquarters post,00:26:40
which was supervised by Believe Goering, which00:26:43
was headed by General Support generally00:26:45
alloy, by the way, which is typical, but the00:26:48
key employees of the00:26:50
blast headquarters were00:26:53
Gerber Baki who planned the00:26:56
plunder of agriculture and Georg00:26:59
Tonus, who represented Wehrmuth at this headquarters,00:27:01
reporting directly to the00:27:03
commander of the Wehrmacht, Wilhelm ok, and00:27:08
on May 2,00:27:12
1941, they created a very interesting00:27:16
document00:27:17
that00:27:19
fell into the hands of a consequently nir daring00:27:22
process and which,00:27:25
in general, for the first time in which it00:27:28
was openly said for the first time what will the00:27:32
food graphic policy lead to 300:27:34
market it anymore and where it was said 1 it00:27:38
will be possible to continue the war only00:27:40
if all the armed forces of00:27:42
Germany in the third year of the war, that is,00:27:44
in the 3rd year of the war for Germany in the forty-00:27:46
first year, are supplied with00:27:48
food at the expense of Russia second00:27:51
greetings Undoubtedly, if we manage to00:27:53
cut off everything we need from the country,00:27:55
then tens of millions of people will00:27:57
be doomed to death;00:28:01
this is the first sign of the first00:28:03
sign: until May 23, 1941, an00:28:08
extended plan for the robbery of the Soviet00:28:11
Union appeared, the so-called directives on00:28:12
economic policy in the field of00:28:13
agriculture,00:28:15
this document was already known to them, they are00:28:18
glad in the process,00:28:20
it really was one of those00:28:24
important monstrous documents that00:28:26
fell into the hands of the American prosecution,00:28:29
just so you understand, I’ll00:28:30
read out how00:28:32
the prosecutor from the United States and Harris characterized it, in the traditions of00:28:36
this document, a pre-00:28:39
developed plan for the murder of millions of00:28:41
innocent Soviet citizens is revealed by00:28:43
starvation in the document I came to the conclusion that the00:28:46
murder of millions of innocents was00:28:48
deliberate the document shows that00:28:51
this murder plan had to be00:28:53
carried out on such a huge scale00:28:55
that it leads to the fact that it exceeded all00:28:57
boundaries of human understanding00:28:59
now the question of the body is what do you think00:29:02
when this document was published in00:29:04
Russian language of00:29:05
the Soviet Union, that’s how00:29:09
my friends mean it was first00:29:12
published in nineteen hundred, I studied the00:29:15
history of the publication of this document in00:29:16
Russian about the ostrich, well, I have00:29:18
n’t published it in full yet,00:29:21
I will publish it because until that moment00:29:23
you published with us exclusively00:29:25
with bottles and with very serious00:29:28
censorship00:29:30
exceptions, the first time they tried00:29:32
to publish it was in 1987, collections of the00:29:36
criminal purpose of Hitler Germany's00:29:38
war against the Soviet Union, with00:29:40
most of the text there being omitted and00:29:43
including one of the most cannibalistic phrases,00:29:45
many tens of millions in this00:29:48
territory will become redundant and will die or00:29:50
be forced to move to Siberia in00:29:52
the year eighty-seven, for00:29:54
some reason this phrase was cut out; a00:29:56
more complete version of this text was00:29:59
published in 1991 in the fourth volume of00:30:02
the publications of the materials of the European trial,00:30:04
but again paradoxical not as a00:30:06
separate public, but as inside the speech of you00:30:10
and Harris, which I quoted before the00:30:12
high courts so the document, I00:30:16
now began to comment on the publication,00:30:19
again to Alexander, no one we are waiting for its00:30:21
appearance, this document is practically00:30:23
unknown and was used extremely sparingly in Soviet and Russian00:30:24
historiography,00:30:27
which of course is completely00:30:29
unfair, so let’s talk a little00:30:31
about the fact that this document00:30:33
contained the main idea and such it,00:30:37
of course, belongs to the folder, its00:30:39
specialization is that in the Soviet Soviet00:30:42
territory it is very organically divided00:30:44
into producing black earth and00:30:47
consuming ground territories,00:30:49
if you quickly stop the black earth00:30:51
territories, then you can00:30:55
quickly00:30:57
redirect food to00:30:59
supply the Wehrmacht peralta,00:31:01
respectively, in the non-black earth and00:31:03
territories only on the bottom of the lands of the00:31:05
territory of the Soviet Union one00:31:07
will not go00:31:08
into the forest zone, these are black earth territories,00:31:13
the document emphasizes that such00:31:15
large industrial centers as Moscow00:31:17
and Leningrad are included, and these cities and in general00:31:20
large cities and black earth zones00:31:21
will suffer terribly as a result of00:31:23
robbery, the document says the population of00:31:26
these territories, in particular the population of00:31:28
cities, will face the greatest famine00:31:30
necessary the population will be called to the00:31:33
Siberian space, but since00:31:34
the use of railway00:31:36
transport for these purposes is excluded,00:31:38
the problem will turn out to be extremely difficult,00:31:41
which means that specifically they were going to00:31:44
be there, but practically in general practically00:31:47
everything and not only from the black earth zone there is00:31:51
another green one, all without a trace of the00:31:53
upcoming rampage, it is necessary for the purposes of Germany00:31:56
and not only fiber but also seeds for the00:31:58
speedy export of such products as00:32:00
hearts, oats and even hay and straw for00:32:03
supplies, they believe, and the authors of the note00:32:06
specify that this requisition00:32:08
must be carried out with lightning speed, since soon these00:32:10
lands will turn into a head zone and the00:32:12
population will begin to eat up the reserves,00:32:14
hide them and need to be in time before that00:32:16
moment when the indigenous peoples realize what is00:32:19
happening, a00:32:21
kind of fixed idea was to fill00:32:23
strategic reserves with meat because00:32:25
you remember00:32:27
local rations are declining, therefore the00:32:30
document says it is important to use the00:32:32
cattle that are insulted in these regions for the00:32:34
purpose of Germany, that is, it is necessary to00:32:36
take as early as possible the number of livestock under which00:32:38
to use it not only without the00:32:40
immediate but not long-term goals of the00:32:42
army and also during transportation to Germany00:32:44
because, again, since the supply of00:32:47
feed will cease, the number of cows and00:32:49
pigs in these regions will decrease as00:32:51
soon as possible and if Germany does not00:32:53
capture it as soon as possible, the local00:32:55
population will fill the warehouse for their own00:32:57
food. Germany will receive nothing,00:32:59
so we need to hurry,00:33:04
and this is what this total robbery will lead to. The00:33:11
note says this quite directly and00:33:14
absolutely,00:33:17
many tens of millions in this00:33:20
territory will become redundant and the Kumaras00:33:22
must move within themselves in an attempt00:33:25
to save the population from starvation with00:33:26
supplies from fertile areas can00:33:28
sock be carried out only at the expense of00:33:30
extreme Europe, these attempts will prevent00:33:33
Germany from ending the war will prevent Germany and00:33:35
Europe from overcoming the blockade, we must00:33:38
understand this with all clarity,00:33:40
regulation of the market and the allocation of00:33:42
products for this region led to00:33:44
Russia and are excluded, and because such00:33:46
an allocation would mean that the German00:33:49
administration has some00:33:50
obligations to the population, such00:33:52
claims are excluded in advance and finally the00:33:56
consequence of this will be the extinction of both00:33:58
industry and the majority of the00:34:00
population in the former regions of00:34:02
consumers this must be stated00:34:04
quite definitely and clearly another00:34:07
very characteristic point that is sleeping00:34:09
cut out of all Soviet versions of this00:34:11
the document talks about the development of00:34:13
Ukraine and such a very interesting passage00:34:17
by the staff of collective farms should be filled with00:34:19
Ukrainians and the Great Russians should be forced into the00:34:22
zone head of such a political line from00:34:26
this we see that00:34:28
the Great Russians and the Russians were considered by00:34:31
the Nazis not only as extra mouths, but until00:34:36
now they should have been exterminated not only as00:34:38
extra mouths fighting for political reasons,00:34:41
what are the political reasons, before the00:34:43
political reasons, there were also motivations for the00:34:46
destruction of the Soviet people, there were 200:34:48
besides economically,00:34:53
the Germans were terribly afraid of human resources,00:34:58
Russia, then the Soviet Union, even00:35:01
during the First World War, the ban00:35:03
German Union was such a forerunner of the00:35:05
Nazi party, issued a special00:35:07
marat in which it was written that the00:35:09
Russian, after the victory of the Russian enemy,00:35:11
must be weakened by reducing00:35:13
the size of its population, and00:35:16
then this line began to be considered00:35:20
as one of the main ones, here is another00:35:22
topic that was not covered at all in00:35:25
our country, unfortunately, this issue of00:35:29
research to find a means of mass00:35:32
sterilization,00:35:33
Nazi medicine received this order00:35:35
about early 41, shortly after the00:35:39
signing of the Barbarossa plan but even before the00:35:42
invasion of the USSR and the goal of searching for the goal of00:35:47
searching for means of00:35:49
mass sterilization is, of course, a00:35:51
reduction in the number of people glorifying, yes because there are00:35:56
too many of them, this is just literally the00:35:59
main topic on which the00:36:03
beloved gear very often speaks, all this happened00:36:06
under under his patronage,00:36:09
this initial program00:36:11
was carried out under the leadership of such an00:36:13
SS man, Victor Herman Brak, who00:36:16
used radiation to obtain warrants for the mass sterilization of00:36:19
Auschwitz prisoners,00:36:21
and even we00:36:26
have such a document of a00:36:29
monstrous nature as his00:36:32
rather optimistic report is dated00:36:35
March 28, 194100:36:37
in this report of hectares Hermann Brak00:36:40
reports that soon he will achieve such00:36:43
capacity that he will be able to sterilize00:36:45
several thousand people a day, they00:36:46
did it in the following way:00:36:48
they invited prisoners to fill out a form, he00:36:51
man stood at the desk and while he00:36:53
stood there, I filled it out with something, I received it,00:36:56
but then00:36:59
the pharmacy again had fewer defects00:37:01
because it became clear that people were getting00:37:03
sick. it’s very difficult for them to lose00:37:05
their ability to work, and the Nazis needed to00:37:08
save at least one generation in00:37:11
order for these people to work while the Germans00:37:13
multiply, sorry, I’m so vulgar,00:37:15
but they themselves,00:37:17
this plot was studied in great detail00:37:22
at the first small Nuremberg00:37:25
trial, the trial against Hitler’s00:37:26
doctors, where the Soviet Union00:37:29
unfortunately, he was not present and therefore they00:37:31
translated us too and essentially they don’t00:37:33
know anything, only they were presented with00:37:34
some wonderful documents,00:37:36
for example, the testimony of Rudolf’s brother00:37:38
who is00:37:40
Hitler’s secretary who explained why00:37:44
these studies were needed for what00:37:45
purpose they were carried out and so the brother showed00:37:47
that Kim I was very interested in these00:37:50
experiments and thirsted to obtain a00:37:52
tool that could be00:37:54
used against enemies and rags such00:37:56
as Russian Poles and Jews, the labor force of00:38:00
sterilized people could be00:38:01
exploited by germanium00:38:03
while the threat of their reproduction was stopped00:38:06
this mass sterilization was a00:38:08
fragment of Hitler's race teachings00:38:10
part of his time of care was devoted to00:38:12
this experience,00:38:14
and here is the clip for dad, the plot of00:38:17
when00:38:19
these experiments with irradiation reached a dead end,00:38:22
Hitler received a letter from the provincial00:38:25
rotating su of the children's city of the Alla team,00:38:27
his name was Adolf the humble and from the roots he00:38:30
suggested using the00:38:32
juice of a South American00:38:33
plant for mass sterilization the humble one wrote to the camp if00:38:37
it were possible to produce a drug00:38:39
that, a short time after00:38:41
taking it, imperceptibly deprives a person of00:38:43
the opportunity to have offspring, then at our00:38:45
disposal it would seem that a new00:38:47
powerful weapon would seem to be the idea that00:38:49
three million Bolsheviks in our captivity00:38:51
could be sterilized, they would not be able to00:38:54
continue the family line but remain00:38:55
functional opens for now in a quieter and00:38:57
perspective way,00:38:59
when the hero got acquainted with this00:39:02
document, I was interested in why00:39:04
some doctor from the bearish corner of the00:39:06
c with decided that his00:39:10
proposal would be interesting to the all-powerful00:39:13
Reichsfuehrer and00:39:14
I read the question, which also be00:39:17
rubber was in Russian, they are very00:39:19
interesting during interrogations, the submissive showed00:39:22
that he learned about the program of searching for methods of mass00:39:24
sterilization from his patient00:39:27
about the venereologist of a00:39:30
high-ranking officer with a s or sd00:39:32
named fight, discovered by a doctor, I assume that it was a00:39:35
spitz of properties of the head of the criminal00:39:37
police, the child00:39:39
saw us on the doctor’s table with a medical00:39:42
journal00:39:43
with article possibilities caladium and the fund00:39:46
told the doctor that such things00:39:47
should be notified to kibler and00:39:50
an excerpt from the testimony he proceeded from that00:39:53
sending I don’t know whether he was years old his own00:39:55
1st or he told me this is how to get divorced00:39:57
from Berlin but he said that a German00:39:59
family on average had two children,00:40:02
while the Slavic people have 8-12 children, he was let00:40:05
down by the thought that Hitler00:40:07
wanted to apply this mass and sterilization00:40:09
to various communities, especially to glory,00:40:12
but the chapter from really read and00:40:14
marant from the humble one and weight 42 years old 100:40:17
is worn with this caladium omu They00:40:20
can’t take it out of South America, as you00:40:22
understand, because there is a war, they are00:40:24
trying to synthesize it,00:40:27
people dilute it, which means Germany itself,00:40:30
or synthesize its juice00:40:31
artificially, they didn’t00:40:33
succeed, and then they will again return to00:40:35
experiments with training and acids, but00:40:39
still less so they are looking for an00:40:41
offending way to undermine the Slavic semi-00:40:46
range quite clearly and we have00:40:48
another source this is a transcript of a conversation by00:40:51
Adolf Hitler to be angry with the Prime Minister rinse00:40:53
be high on the Michael Antonescu00:40:56
said a few days before the00:40:58
gel young was talking to something and there is00:41:00
Hitler very frank, he says my00:41:03
mission is if I manage to destroy the Slavic00:41:07
Slavic people, the interlocutors00:41:09
answer him that the Slavic peoples are00:41:11
not political or spiritual problems in Europe,00:41:13
but serious biological00:41:15
issues related to the birth rate in00:41:17
Europe, Hitler perceives these words spa00:41:20
him with understanding, you are right, he says he00:41:23
represents the Slavs is a00:41:25
biological question and not an ideological one00:41:27
in the future in Europe there should be only 200:41:30
1 Germanic and Latin these two races00:41:32
must work together in Russia in order00:41:34
to reduce the number of Slavs and00:41:37
it cannot be approached with legal or00:41:39
political formulas since the Russian00:41:42
question is much more dangerous than it seems and00:41:44
we must use colonialist and00:41:46
biological means to destroy the00:41:49
Slavs, this is the second reason to undermine the00:41:52
biological strength of the people, as00:41:55
one of the officials of the Ministry of00:41:57
Eastern Territories of the Russian Federation will later write 12 in his00:42:00
comments on the Ost plan, it is important for us Germans to00:42:02
weaken the Russian people to such an00:42:04
extent and so that they do not more00:42:06
able to prevent us from establishing00:42:07
German domination in Europe00:42:10
by the way about the Ost plan and here we come00:42:13
to the third motivation the destruction of the00:42:16
Soviet volume of the Slavic people00:42:18
the motivation is very simple and this is the00:42:20
motivation that was recorded00:42:21
lost in the Nuremberg process00:42:26
cleared the land they were going to populate the00:42:32
territory of the Soviet Union m cement00:42:35
was going integrating them into paradise is a00:42:37
separate big topic and the OST plan00:42:40
was really not completed as00:42:41
directive documents, his sketches have been preserved,00:42:43
one of these sketches, for example,00:42:46
was written by an SS professor control00:42:48
them very close to Hitler, Hitler, I00:42:51
apologize, the person was assigned to him already in the00:42:54
forty-first ready ready this question00:42:56
was in the spring 42 prepare a plan for quick00:43:00
integration of v-ray 3 plastic, these are similar,00:43:03
you know which ones should have been00:43:05
part of paradise first of all,00:43:08
no more, this is wild to give us like in the morning the00:43:11
territory of the Soviet Union means00:43:12
the Kremlin 1 the00:43:16
second is the Leningrad region, the so-00:43:19
called Ingria and the third is00:43:22
part of the territory of Lithuania and Belarus00:43:26
is exactly what should be quickly00:43:29
annexed to the Crimea, everything else there00:43:31
will be governed as colonies and this00:43:33
should already be part of the Reich settled by00:43:35
Germans, in particular there is a very00:43:38
interesting one from grapes as you know and that’s why00:43:40
I paint like gross income00:43:42
and there is something interesting notices and about the00:43:44
destruction of what is not there so00:43:46
the planning for settling in there says00:43:49
that the population of00:43:51
Ingria, that is, the Leningrad00:43:53
region, should be 200 thousand00:43:56
people,00:43:58
the population of Leningrad and who doesn’t know00:44:00
this moment only Leningrad was00:44:02
3 million, the question is where it should have00:44:05
gone,00:44:07
she also half believe because May00:44:11
knew perfectly well how they died like everyone00:44:14
else, that she had to die from00:44:16
the head and the siege of Leningrad, she was00:44:19
a continuation of the photo, then the payment of almost his00:44:22
fragments was no longer my fragment, which00:44:25
came true because exactly the same plan00:44:26
existed for Moscow, it was given to00:44:29
all other large cities which00:44:31
lay on the path of the Wehrmacht in the non-black earth00:44:33
zone,00:44:35
which they didn’t come up with, they came up with the idea that they00:44:40
would not occupy large cities00:44:42
because, according to international00:44:44
laws, they would have to feed the00:44:47
population of the temperature if they00:44:49
came to00:44:51
feed them, as you understand, there is no one left to00:44:53
collect, on the contrary, they sought to00:44:55
reduce00:44:59
as if, as if to00:45:01
plunder resources for their own benefit and00:45:04
reduce the CDT mass, I would say the00:45:07
biological force of the Soviet Union,00:45:09
therefore Hitler gives orders00:45:12
not to occupy Soviet cities in the00:45:15
non-black earth zone, he gives orders to00:45:17
destroy them during the offensive,00:45:21
surround them, destroy them with artillery and00:45:24
aviation forces and condemns the population to famine,00:45:27
we know there was such an order about00:45:29
Leningrad and partly, unfortunately, this00:45:34
monstrous plan of Hitler was reset, partly00:45:36
but exactly the same order and on the same day00:45:39
it was Otto visited Moscow and other00:45:42
Soviet cities00:45:43
adapter plan to continue this00:45:46
famine plan in00:45:48
Reich circles they also spoke in the spring even before the00:45:51
start of the war on00:45:52
May 5, 1941, General this Lisa von00:45:57
Horst anal heard from the Ferrari brigade the00:45:59
whole wandering calculated Kerach of the00:46:01
English Himmler of the person of the future00:46:03
commander it'sa from the group and in Russia all00:46:06
cities and cultural sites including the00:46:08
Kremlin should be wiped off the face of the earth00:46:10
Russia must be relegated to the level of a00:46:13
nation of peasants finally and00:46:14
irrevocably On00:46:16
June 24, Goering told the Finnish ambassador who00:46:19
his kiwi crumb was, that it was better to destroy Leningrad to Moscow, what was meant was00:46:24
the destruction of cities along with people, an00:46:26
entry is shown in the diary of Franz00:46:29
Halder, the chief of staff, about when from00:46:33
July 8, 41 The Fuhrer's unshakable decision00:46:36
to raze Moscow, Leningrad to the ground in order to00:46:38
completely get rid of the population of these00:46:41
cities which otherwise we00:46:43
will be forced to feed during the winter00:46:46
July 25th in the diary to you appear00:46:49
installation staff Kate Olya Leningrad must be00:46:52
quickly isolated and starved to death00:46:54
is important from a political military and00:46:57
economic point of view view of Moscow, as well00:47:00
as Leningrad, do not attack, surround and00:47:02
starve, we need00:47:05
mainly Muscovites,00:47:06
yes, here are my friends, who among you00:47:09
knew that Moscow was destined for even00:47:12
studying Leningrad, raise your hands,00:47:15
he could have known, but the majority did not00:47:17
know this one is still the00:47:19
state of everyone, unfortunately, it00:47:22
should probably be interesting that the Ministry of Propaganda gun is involved in the00:47:25
ideological support of the plan of00:47:27
destruction. The00:47:29
meeting that I already00:47:31
mentioned today demanded from the chief00:47:34
editors of German newspapers that they00:47:36
mention Moscow and Leningrad as little as possible00:47:38
for the reason that soon the00:47:40
stories of these cities will soon00:47:42
cease anyway; there is no need to remind them once again.00:47:44
In September, the conference of the00:47:48
Wehrmacht's military economy and armament department under the leadership of00:47:50
Hermann Goering states that for00:47:52
economic reasons the conquest of00:47:54
large cities is undesirable and in a blockade00:47:56
it is preferable to00:47:58
gold ones, for00:48:01
example, these plans for destruction most clearly show the00:48:05
incident with00:48:08
Leningrad, which the sailors00:48:12
dreamed of using as a late00:48:15
British00:48:18
seriously beat the German fleet and it was decided to00:48:21
transfer to00:48:24
create a base somewhere in the east and00:48:28
Leningrad was seen as such a point,00:48:31
and so the chief of staff of the00:48:33
navy from Kurt Frickey went to talk about it with00:48:35
Hitler because00:48:37
he had heard rumors that Leningrad would be00:48:39
destroyed and so he wanted to know,00:48:41
hyper told him that he did00:48:44
n’t need to hope for Leningrad, and as00:48:47
a result, based on the results of this dialogue, he00:48:50
wrote a directive to the commander of the00:48:53
group in this naval forces board, a good00:48:57
mind, that’s why he wrote it from his00:49:00
office, but verbatim as Erich Roeth showed in the00:49:03
market organ of the process, he literally wrote down00:49:06
Hitler’s words about why Leningrad00:49:08
could remain along the rivers to listen to the form of the00:49:11
political line adopted in relation to00:49:13
St. Petersburg, it is planned to surround the city with a00:49:16
tight ring and, by shelling from00:49:19
artillery of all calibers and continuous00:49:20
bombing from the air, raze it to the ground00:49:23
if, as a result, of the situation created in the city,00:49:25
requests for surrender will be made00:49:28
and the deputy will be rejected since the problems00:49:30
associated with the population’s stay in the city and00:49:32
its food00:49:34
supply cannot be solved by us and00:49:36
should not be taken into account in this war being waged00:49:41
for the right to exist,00:49:42
we are not interested in preserving at00:49:44
least part of the population00:49:50
document recognition is a receipt of plans00:49:53
to carry out genocide, there00:49:56
will be no other interpretation, but for now there are numerical00:49:58
statements that Hitler himself made00:50:01
to his employees, for example, the00:50:03
aborigines, we will move on to thinning them out,00:50:06
Russian cities do not enter st-1, they00:50:09
will have to completely die out and we do00:50:11
not need to be tormented by remorse at all00:50:12
conscience does not need to get used to the role of the thread,00:50:15
we have no obligations at all00:50:17
to these people,00:50:20
well, on October 7, bolotan, the final00:50:23
order00:50:25
was the same regarding Leningrad00:50:27
regarding Moscow textolite of cities to00:50:29
lay down to go army group center00:50:33
do not accept the capitol surround until these00:50:36
pirates destroy them aviation artillery00:50:38
and not accept surrender even00:50:40
if it is a direct order00:50:43
remained on the eve of winter,00:50:46
that is, if you surround damask steel you can use00:50:49
it from time to time until you surround the00:50:51
city with borscht by starvation, but at the same time you do not00:50:54
accept surrender, this means that you are00:50:56
not using as a means of waging00:50:58
war, to take a fortress, you don’t00:51:01
want to take a fortress, you want to00:51:02
kill people, this is precisely the goal of the00:51:05
Third Reich in the war in the east,00:51:12
we have a very interesting order, this is also a00:51:15
new document, it has never00:51:16
been published in Russian, this is00:51:21
Wilhelm’s order, details of the hf control of00:51:24
land weapons Friedrich's troops00:51:26
front 500:51:27
41 years interesting due to the00:51:30
impending famine in most of the00:51:33
conquered areas one should00:51:35
count on the action dictated by00:51:37
despair, let me explain that we are talking00:51:40
about food riots, therefore the Fuhrer00:51:42
demands that the commander of the security00:51:44
divisions of the business units of the police00:51:46
form military vehicles at their disposal00:51:48
again the powers in order to00:51:52
fulfill all these tasks, you will need to turn to a00:51:55
French captured tank prepared for the Italians and00:51:57
confiscate them; for this it00:52:00
will also be necessary to talk about not trains, this is00:52:02
July 5, 1941, they are preparing to suppress00:52:05
food riots, suppress them in the most brutal00:52:07
way, which we will talk about later,00:52:09
you need to understand that these here are the00:52:12
combat vehicles that require frome he00:52:16
only demands them then the fits of divided00:52:18
demands at the request of the lake and the Reichsführer00:52:22
dices and to command the suppression of these00:52:26
hunger riots in central Russia in00:52:28
all cases tons who is00:52:33
correct or fondant basilisk that is why he00:52:36
received this order and he received it and with00:52:38
what We’ll also talk to you about the00:52:41
famine plan. Military economists were aware of the management of the00:52:44
4th kitchen of the four-year plan.00:52:48
Naturally, the army knew00:52:52
about it and the Ministry of Eastern00:52:53
Territories, which was supposed to00:52:55
carry out00:52:57
civil administration of the occupied00:53:00
lands, was headed by Alfred Rosenberg in00:53:01
June of forty-one in the00:53:04
presence of the head of the department.00:53:07
imperial security of Reinhard00:53:08
Heydrich, he gave a00:53:10
fiery speech to his employees in which, in00:53:13
particular, he said when we talk about00:53:16
German demands in the east, we are00:53:17
primarily talking about food for the00:53:19
German people in the southern regions and in the00:53:21
northern Caucasus, there will be surpluses to00:53:24
feed the Germans, but we do not see our00:53:27
duty is to supply00:53:28
food from these abundant00:53:30
areas to the Russians, we know that this is a00:53:32
cruel necessity that is beyond00:53:34
all feelings, without a doubt a huge evacuation will be required00:53:36
and the Russian people00:53:38
will face difficult times,00:53:41
the run-up used here and chemicals, but in00:53:44
essence he retold the contents of the document00:53:46
May 23, difficult times these are the deaths of 20-3000:53:49
million people,00:53:52
but we need to say more about the00:53:57
role with what is00:53:59
happening.00:54:02
We already know quite a lot about00:54:05
how Himmler was connected with the00:54:08
economic headquarters of the bridge, he was personally friends00:54:11
with Herbert Baker,00:54:14
or on00:54:16
June 10, 1941 they had a00:54:19
multi-hour meeting with Berlin and what legs00:54:23
were discussed I still don’t know for sure, also00:54:25
the transcript has not been preserved, but the historian00:54:28
Lipski very wittily noted that they want00:54:30
Himmler owned a poultry farm in Munich in the00:54:32
late twenties, this does not mean that they00:54:35
talked like others, this aspect of the00:54:37
street subjects of their conversation and now00:54:40
after he met with Bucky Heptor00:54:43
immediately went smell sees the eye where and00:54:45
took place at the very meeting at which00:54:47
he told his decided people who survived00:54:50
close to him that the purpose of the campaign to the east00:54:52
was to reduce the number of Slavs by 3000:54:55
million people at all and00:54:58
remembered this constantly, he was not only00:55:00
at the level of this more precisely, not only in the00:55:03
witness chair he spoke about this, I00:55:05
studied his first testimony, the first thing00:55:07
he starts talking about is on the first00:55:09
page he starts talking about it00:55:12
from razer RCC expected that00:55:16
Russia would lose from twenty to thirty00:55:17
million people partly due to the00:55:19
civil war hunger and to convince already at00:55:22
that time it was clear what00:55:24
Himmler was striving for, namely the large-scale00:55:26
destruction of the Jewish and Slavic00:55:28
peoples, this is the very first testimony00:55:29
that00:55:32
he never gave and which was never00:55:34
published, but 20 years later00:55:36
Bazilevsky conceded on one more in court00:55:38
it was soup pinned by Wolf,00:55:41
they had enough of Hitler’s personal headquarters and00:55:44
there Vasilevsky again spoke about00:55:47
what was happening in the hryvnia assembly,00:55:49
he remembered how Himmler was telling a narrow00:55:52
circle of those close to him the die had been cast, we are going00:55:54
against Russia, we are talking about the issue of00:55:56
survival, so we face an00:55:58
inexorably cruel struggle of nations during00:56:00
which, as a result of hostilities and00:56:02
difficulties with food, will die from00:56:04
twenty to thirty million Slavic00:56:06
Jews, so we have00:56:08
virtually no doubt that the00:56:11
Kibler assembly was introduced, shared with his00:56:14
subordinates, the00:56:15
content of directives on economic00:56:18
policy were written under,00:56:20
well, in general, Hitler is probably the most00:56:23
radical and the outspoken leader of the00:56:25
Third Reich,00:56:28
he has a lot of statements that I00:56:32
quote a little later, which00:56:34
leaves no doubt that he was00:56:35
committed to genocide,00:56:40
information about this dress of course00:56:42
leaked out, and then00:56:45
many people who gave00:56:47
their testimony in various pirates and even became aware of it in00:56:49
different countries and at different times an00:56:51
interesting story an interesting story to00:56:53
Rudolf Christoph hangar peat00:56:55
chief of intelligence of the army group center00:56:57
close employees and marshal God's fund00:57:01
he said that in July 1941, the00:57:07
leaders of the00:57:09
advanced team of Moscow for the group of00:57:13
France six arrived at the headquarters of fun park let Boris let also close to Hitler, and00:57:17
so he said that Hitler forbids00:57:19
the army to enter the Soviet capital and00:57:21
order and block further the coat of arms of the Russian Federation00:57:24
says because through military00:57:27
channels and such an advanced team00:57:29
was not even heard, I immediately ordered to check the00:57:31
identity of my guest and everything was confirmed,00:57:33
he said that Hitler intends00:57:35
establish the borders of the Reich politics Baku00:57:38
Stalingrad Moscow-Leningrad00:57:39
and to the east of this league up to the Urals00:57:42
there should be a strip of scorched earth,00:57:43
approximately 30 million Russians living in00:57:46
this strip are planned to be exterminated by00:57:48
starvation, removing all00:57:50
food from this huge territory, everyone00:57:53
following their grandfather will be prohibited from this action00:57:55
on pain of death, give the Russians even a00:57:57
piece of bread, large cities, including00:57:59
Leningrad and Moscow, will be razed to the ground,00:58:02
the responsibility for the implementation of these measures00:58:04
will be carried out by the highest ferrari kss fountain00:58:06
baxi fishing line, so we00:58:07
get an interesting testimony that the00:58:10
tank of iron did not just hear something else00:58:12
received what - the order we have00:58:14
other independent testimony about this with00:58:17
gas, one of them was given by the head of the and the00:58:20
police at the risk of violence tecos shoes00:58:22
picnic but he was captured by the Soviets and during00:58:24
interrogation in 1946 in Riga showed the coat of arms00:58:28
he said not from the words of Fondant Bach that the fund00:58:31
received from Kemer to order and00:58:33
destroy 20 million people on the00:58:35
territory of Belarus and other regions of00:58:37
the east volume as the00:58:39
Germans advanced and who is this coat of arms which00:58:43
nickel on this was reported by the coat of arms this is the00:58:47
deputy in the x already forty-third year00:58:51
went to promotion he began to lead the00:58:53
entire anti-partisan struggle gives intel core gear00:58:56
as his deputy,00:59:00
who also told about the plan, although to a00:59:03
friend the plan about the order to destroy 3000:59:06
million people,00:59:09
but in another place there was no harm, and in Minsk he was00:59:12
also taken into captivity, he was tried in Minsk,00:59:15
he showed the following, he praised me that00:59:17
it is necessary to destroy not 20 but more than 3000:59:20
million, and in the same vein, the00:59:21
Major General was instructed by the Express itself, although it did not00:59:24
tell you this number, but00:59:28
it recommended that the fight against the partisans00:59:30
adhere to the methods of Genghis Khan, that00:59:32
is, to completely destroy the population00:59:34
that the partisans can00:59:37
keep00:59:40
all these indications allows it’s good00:59:43
to take a fresh look at Bach’s testimony in Nuremberg00:59:46
because I remembered Hitler’s speech so well00:59:50
because it contained a personal00:59:53
directive to him as the highest figure from the00:59:55
duty to support00:59:58
extermination in the forest zone was higher than the01:00:00
second pump in the forest zone, evil did not01:00:03
head obviously received a directive01:00:05
to make a famine not the only means01:00:07
of extermination, and here I again01:00:09
remind you of this document on July 5,01:00:11
addressed to the head of the arms department,01:00:15
it was precisely Nevsky who had to01:00:18
suppress these very hunger riots,01:00:21
as I already said, I spoke not01:00:24
only in the assembly about the01:00:26
reinforcement of the Slavs, according to the testimony of01:00:28
Colonel General Ferdinand von01:00:30
hinge, shortly before the invasion of01:00:32
Germany, Rex Kuro arrived in conquered01:00:34
Athens and there, during lunch, Sophie from the horns01:00:37
perfectly stated that soon there would be a01:00:39
big war in the east, the goal of which01:00:41
was to oust the Slavs from the eastern01:00:43
space and the canonization of the Slavic01:00:46
lands by the Germans, while he focused01:00:48
on the physical extermination of the Russians In the event that01:00:50
Kim showed resistance during the01:00:53
German invasion of the borders of Russia, she01:00:55
understands that without resistance, it is unlikely that01:00:56
anyone would have given him the entire territory of the01:00:59
Soviet Union, so this is the usual01:01:01
Nazi I can’t by thus, like01:01:04
this, or scattered evidence01:01:06
begins to line up into a single plan, and01:01:08
Himmler perhaps was Probably the main01:01:11
apostles and ideologist of the idea of destroying the01:01:14
biological power of Russia, he kept01:01:16
hoping that if as many01:01:18
people were killed as possible, the Soviet Union would simply01:01:21
run out of human resources, and01:01:23
then already in01:01:25
[music]01:01:26
1943, Hitler spoke about this directly,01:01:29
but first about what happened in 4101:01:32
Of course, the famine was thwarted because the01:01:36
Germans failed to completely occupy the black soil01:01:38
territories and not to destroy the cities.01:01:42
However, unfortunately, the fashion was partially01:01:43
realized and its victims were,01:01:46
firstly, destroyed and by the cold, Soviet01:01:48
prisoners of war,01:01:49
this was sanctioned by the01:01:53
Wehrmacht Quartermaster General Edward01:01:55
Wagner, closely connected with the plan bridge01:01:57
perfectly passed the01:02:00
food situation in Germany and so I01:02:03
talked with one of the main German01:02:05
researchers of this issue to the peasants01:02:07
gear in one fell swoop, he did not say that we01:02:09
traditionally quickly call01:02:11
this plan for eliminating hunger the plan of tanks on the01:02:15
same basis we can call it01:02:17
and the partner’s plan is an organized01:02:20
famine for the residents of besieged Leningrad,01:02:22
but not only besieged Leningrad but also the01:02:25
occupied cities of the Leningrad01:02:27
region Pushkin Pavlovsk Shlisselburg01:02:30
our famous suburbs01:02:32
experienced a terrible monstrous tragedy01:02:35
there they removed dozens of people from the indigenous01:02:38
townspeople of Pushkin strip I will say at the01:02:40
end of the war leave only01:02:42
hundreds of the population left put the population of01:02:45
Pushkina 35 thousand people of which01:02:47
remained in the hundreds 2 of them survived the rest01:02:49
wise mainly from hunger but01:02:51
also from executions01:02:54
from bombings from military operations01:02:59
organized famine, which is interesting,01:03:01
was used for the megacities of the black earth01:03:04
zone, a01:03:05
specially organized famine was01:03:07
created in Kiev and Kharkov and there people01:03:10
also died from this artificial01:03:12
famine, these are tens of thousands of people,01:03:15
in addition, this policy of hunger01:03:20
was used in almost all of them in 1941,01:03:22
firstly, a guess, but in Russia and Belarus01:03:24
and01:03:26
Ukraine,01:03:28
this is the eagle of this Bryansk, this is Minsk, the01:03:33
love of almost any city, what was01:03:36
different about a01:03:38
city dweller before the occupation from life in01:03:40
the occupation, imagine a person01:03:42
wakes up and he cannot go out into the street,01:03:45
go to the store, bribed more01:03:49
because the first thing the Nazis did when they01:03:51
entered the city, they occupied all the warehouses,01:03:53
closed all the stores,01:03:56
specifically take into account everything that they01:03:59
captured and all the food01:04:01
was now under their control was01:04:03
directed before, but Satan supplied01:04:04
the Wehrmacht and the market, shops practically did not01:04:06
work 1 after only the market where you01:04:09
could sell something, where you could01:04:11
buy something in a three-way, and in01:04:13
order to buy something you had to first01:04:15
sell something or It’s natural to blame01:04:17
because everyone and money also became01:04:20
difficult, and so the inhabitants of the occupied01:04:23
territories found themselves participating in a01:04:26
monstrous lottery in which the experienced,01:04:28
stronger,01:04:30
wealthy ones, let’s somehow still01:04:32
survive, and the weaker ones were almost01:04:35
inevitably removed, and this topic,01:04:37
unfortunately, has still been studied in our country01:04:39
but such a policy, its results were not01:04:42
an accident, they were more a consequence of01:04:45
this tent one more point why this01:04:47
11 because such a town order for01:04:50
everyone was only for representatives of01:04:52
specific peoples because we must not01:04:54
forget that the01:04:55
so-called Ufali lived in the occupied territories;01:04:57
almost everyone wanted register01:04:59
representatives of the Aryan peoples Germans01:05:02
Finns who were considered Swedes others01:05:06
they could go to management they could01:05:08
register as a benefit. if you do not01:05:10
register as a daughter and they were immediately01:05:12
taken out of this monstrous lottery,01:05:14
they became a privileged01:05:16
position, including in the sense of01:05:18
supplies, so death was01:05:20
not prepared for all the peoples of the01:05:22
occupied territories, but only for01:05:24
those who were proclaimed not01:05:26
Olensky, therefore this is genocide they another01:05:29
type of crime, of course, we cannot keep silent01:05:31
about the fact that the Jewish01:05:33
population was starved, this is also something we01:05:35
know very well about such methods of the Holocaust as01:05:37
executions at Babi Yar, the most probably01:05:39
known are the01:05:41
monstrous death camps, which, in01:05:44
principle, were created for advantages,01:05:45
mainly for the extermination of the01:05:47
Jewish population but hunger was also an01:05:50
instrument for the extermination of Jews and the Jew was01:05:53
immediately driven from the whale to most of the01:05:55
large cities occupied and01:05:58
hunger reigned there, so01:06:00
hunger dominated and death without sex was very high, but01:06:03
as I already said, there01:06:06
was a very deep connection between the plan of hunger and actions without sex01:06:10
and although in 1941 it became01:06:15
clear that the famine plan had failed,01:06:19
moreover, the Soviet German occupiers became01:06:22
more interested in the Soviet01:06:24
population because they fell into such a01:06:26
trap, they think that they are quickly01:06:28
drinking away the war and dare to partially01:06:30
demobilize the army, men return to01:06:33
work in factories,01:06:34
they returned turnover fraps demanded01:06:38
more and more strength, and then they01:06:42
began to take care of the Russians, then01:06:46
the situation of prisoners of war improved, then01:06:49
they became more interested in the inhabitants of01:06:51
the cities in order to get them out of01:06:53
Germany and force them to work there, then the01:06:57
situation actually changed somewhat,01:07:00
this is not a national policy that softened,01:07:02
but at the same time it was promoted in01:07:05
partisan areas because where the01:07:08
partisans operated01:07:10
under Hitler's subordinates and01:07:12
partly set up on the floor and the Wehrmacht01:07:14
acted on the principle of a01:07:17
scorched earth policy, that is, they destroyed01:07:20
not only the partisans, not only their01:07:22
profit accomplices, they cleaned out the entire01:07:24
population so that the partisans were guaranteed01:07:29
not to be able to receive any support and01:07:31
Hitler spoke about this quite openly,01:07:34
here are several of his little-known speeches on01:07:36
April 23, 1943, and I had to monstrously01:07:41
mobilize my people cube, and about the01:07:43
Russians, I believe that we should approach the01:07:45
conduct of this war in the east and our01:07:47
campaign in the following way: how to kill the01:07:50
Russians with the greatest number of people01:07:52
alive or the dead we do it killed by01:07:56
taking them captive and forcing them to work,01:07:58
trying to completely gain our01:08:00
power in the areas that we occupy, I01:08:02
put the areas that we leave01:08:03
completely without a hatch, if we and I am convinced of01:08:07
this, we will generally wage a war,01:08:09
consistently conducting a league to01:08:11
exterminate people, then Personally, I have no01:08:14
doubt that within this year,01:08:16
by next winter, the Russians will be01:08:18
bled dry01:08:20
following the speech of December 43, the German01:08:24
people are the only ones who can fight back,01:08:27
win and you can calmly use01:08:30
this word exterminate en masse, exterminate01:08:33
these Russians en masse to the last guest and we will01:08:36
do it, they are bleeding of course01:08:39
slowly but surely they are already putting Russian01:08:41
women behind cannons and machine guns one day his01:08:44
huge people will run out of reserves01:08:46
we will approach this moment01:08:48
next year here in this war in the01:08:50
east a struggle for01:08:52
destruction is unfolding between two races in this01:08:55
victory of destruction there are only Asian01:08:58
rules namely there will be exterminated and01:09:00
will destroy and male power either 1 time or01:09:02
another01:09:05
but also the last time every time I was01:09:08
forced to act against the partisans and01:09:10
Jewish commissars of the village I am talking about01:09:13
this here to our circle and the ballet and is01:09:14
intended for our cool I01:09:16
fundamentally gave the order to kill01:09:18
also women and the children of those partisans and01:09:21
commissars, I would become a coward, I would become01:09:24
a criminal before our descendants and01:09:26
before their descendants if I allowed the01:09:30
sons of the Untermensch, filled with hatred towards us, to grow up, who we01:09:32
destroyed the Barbie of the man and the grandfather of the01:09:34
man, believe me, it is not always01:09:37
easy to give up and carry out such a thing with01:09:39
paint in no case is it as easy as01:09:41
consistently thinking about and mentioning it while01:09:43
making a speech in some call, but I01:09:46
think we must clearly understand01:09:48
how primitive the primitive01:09:50
natural pre-racial struggle that we01:09:52
see is, I think we must be01:09:55
brave enough in front of ourselves, our01:09:57
descendants, to take into account the laws of this01:09:59
initially natural selection and living01:10:02
according to them,01:10:04
these speeches, it seems to me, very clearly01:10:08
explain why when Bazilevsky01:10:11
was asked why they were dying to refuse to01:10:14
soften the policy despite the01:10:16
corresponding request from the localities,01:10:19
he answered obviously because these01:10:22
changes were not desirable, that is,01:10:25
the line to exterminate people it wasn’t01:10:27
some kind of madness, it was a completely01:10:29
pragmatic,01:10:31
clear01:10:33
strategy for victory, a Nazi strategy for01:10:36
victory, to kill as many as possible in order to01:10:38
reduce the number of people, the ability01:10:40
to help the enemy fight,01:10:45
and well, a01:10:47
very different formation adopted this01:10:49
strategy from Hitler to Hitler, this is from Hitler, and01:10:54
even officers and laboratory assistants learned about it01:10:57
Russian liberation army of the01:10:59
Vlasov army, one of them01:11:02
wrote to Colonel Pozdnyakov in Riga01:11:06
what he saw with his own eyes01:11:10
in forty-four I arrived in the village of01:11:13
more ochkovo, all of it was created in the01:11:16
cellars, the exit was located by the Latvian01:11:18
SS men, I asked one of them01:11:21
why there were01:11:23
unburied corpses around the village women, old people and01:11:25
children, hundreds of corpses, as well as killed horses, a01:11:27
strong cadaverous smell was in the air,01:11:30
the answer here is that we killed them to01:11:33
destroy as many Russians as possible,01:11:39
I think that01:11:43
something to add proving that it was01:11:47
genocide is quite difficult that I would like01:11:51
society to draw your attention to that01:11:53
why continue with the definition of genocide, the01:11:57
spinning of genocide is an action01:12:01
decided with the aim of destroying once its01:12:03
epic national or religious01:12:05
group in whole or in part, and now01:12:09
we have01:12:10
the genocide of Jews and Gypsies and there is the genocide of the01:12:15
Slavs or the genocide of the Soviet people as01:12:17
a whole, they have similarities in that sense01:12:20
that this is a field of action with the goal of destroying,01:12:24
in this case, an ethical national01:12:27
group, but there is a difference so that we01:12:29
must also understand very well the01:12:31
Jewish Gypsy population01:12:34
was completely destroyed to hit such a goal was01:12:38
set by the tracker to destroy the Slavic01:12:41
population completely, the Germans did not01:12:44
have a goal because they were interested01:12:46
in feeding the workforce, but nevertheless01:12:48
there was a goal to destroy his honor,01:12:50
quotes something, yes, that is, this goal for 4101:12:54
years is 30 million, but even then they would have01:12:56
earned by checking the01:12:59
instruments of mass01:13:01
sterilization found by the Nazis and of01:13:03
course the layers or left to leave the01:13:05
bars The Ukrainians remained, the01:13:07
Belarusians remained, but their number01:13:09
has decreased significantly; this is a different type 11, but at the same time, both of them are01:13:13
still01:13:16
genocide of the legs, and in conclusion, I would01:13:20
also like to say about the influence of the famine plan on the01:13:23
Holocaust;01:13:26
in my opinion, the park plan has01:13:29
become a kind of trigger for the01:13:30
extermination of the Jews, it is interesting that01:13:34
historians are still arguing about when the01:13:37
decision was made by the kickers of his closest01:13:40
accomplices to destroy the Jews of Europe, the01:13:45
historian and very differently01:13:47
believe there are different conclusions to acquire01:13:50
on the first who live with us, people01:13:52
repeatedly believe that this01:13:54
happened after the entry into the war of the01:13:56
United States of America, while studying01:14:01
past I will ask you to rotate the testimony for all of01:14:04
Leskov, I came across a very interesting01:14:07
testimony that is not in his other01:14:09
testimony, he is the very01:14:11
first testimony, respectively the most recent,01:14:14
Bazilevsky claims that01:14:18
Hitler already spoke about the extermination of the Jews, saturation was carried out assemblies01:14:21
verbatim, it sounds like this the source stated01:14:24
that Keebler acquainted them during this01:14:26
meeting with the plans of the upcoming campaign01:14:28
against Russia and consistently explained01:14:30
his point of view on the Jewish question,01:14:32
ending with the fact that the Jews of Eastern01:14:35
Europe, together with the Jews of Central01:14:37
Europe, must be destroyed and this01:14:39
will lead to the father of all world Jewry,01:14:42
that is, it was It was also said,01:14:44
apparently, in childhood in July 1941, if01:14:48
this is so, then01:14:50
accordingly Tula street Hitler and01:14:53
Himmler were ripe to exterminate the Jews even before01:14:55
the start of the war, I think that this is01:14:58
really so, that’s why it seems to me01:15:00
that the coverage at the meeting in Pittsburgh01:15:03
was also here she and others orders01:15:06
that concerned the non-01:15:09
Slavic Jewish population were not01:15:11
just a phrase from Hitler, it was revealed in a01:15:13
certain order why this group was01:15:15
at the meeting of the Vizbor and the01:15:17
raider was also present, their head of the board of01:15:19
daring security, when he returned to01:15:22
Berlin he summoned the01:15:24
leadership of the shut up at that time01:15:26
just being formed and made a01:15:28
speech to them with some new people, so01:15:31
they boiled down to the fact that in the Soviet01:15:33
Union, Jews01:15:35
are a very01:15:37
special stratum that01:15:40
has concentrated all power in their hands, and01:15:42
there it is dangerous not only those Jews who01:15:44
occupy state and party01:15:46
posts, but these Jews who hold such posts01:15:48
they don’t bend because everyone is tied to each01:15:50
other, which means that they are insignificant01:15:53
from the point of view of a formal pasta, the Jew01:15:55
may actually be, maybe01:15:57
actually 7 the ruler, so you need to be01:16:02
extremely decisive01:16:04
towards them and apply, among other things, the01:16:06
most severe measures for which01:16:08
Germany officially would not like to take01:16:10
responsibility and further01:16:12
for about a month the motives of01:16:16
Hitler’s orders become that he01:16:19
orders an officer of the idol group01:16:22
to direct organize Ilyich’s trial01:16:25
from the side of the place, he01:16:28
orders us to at least01:16:29
contact local01:16:30
anti-Semitic nationalist01:16:32
forces and further encourage them roughly01:16:35
speaking, to a Jewish pogrom to mass01:16:37
murder, but so that none of the01:16:40
representatives of these forces could01:16:41
refer to a binding obligation, that01:16:44
is, apparently, the Keller himself, of course,01:16:47
could not give such orders of his own free01:16:49
will; he probably coordinated this with01:16:52
his leader, Hitler, and most01:16:54
likely gilded knew about this, yes, I think that01:16:57
these ships here, the lychees, it was just the01:16:59
first stage of the Holocaust, until a certain01:17:01
moment they did not know how to approach the01:17:04
solution of such a grandiose task, but how does01:17:07
this relate to the cold plan? We have01:17:09
already talked about the fact that hunger was one of the01:17:11
means the extermination of Jewry in the ghetto and01:17:14
quite important at the first stage, we01:17:19
have evidence that the Jews01:17:20
were destroyed, including as extra01:17:23
eaters, this slips through in a number of01:17:25
documents and01:17:26
I think that of course both Hitler and Himmler did01:17:32
not repeatedly let us talk about the01:17:34
promising01:17:38
with the promising reformatting01:17:41
is typical in the space of Europe in an01:17:44
ethnic and demographic sense,01:17:47
roughly speaking, the Germans should become as01:17:49
many other peoples as01:17:51
possible,01:17:52
but until a certain point they did not know01:17:55
how to do this, and now the money from his plans to01:17:58
quickly kill 30 million people, he01:18:02
opened new horizons under the Nazi leadership01:18:05
it shows a way to do01:18:08
it quickly and even so that it01:18:10
could be imagined as a humanitarian01:18:12
catastrophe that happened by itself01:18:15
dragging around in the fictional Berlin01:18:18
corridors of power so perhaps perhaps01:18:22
I can’t say this but perhaps01:18:28
if you have already decided to kill 30 million01:18:32
people then kill more all Jews, and01:18:36
this is no longer such a terrible crime,01:18:38
if you just kill four01:18:40
five six million there, it’s terrible, but if01:18:42
you killed before that, you’ve already decided to01:18:44
kill 30, then it’s not so scary anymore, it01:18:47
will sound cynical, and it’s very beautiful, but01:18:49
nevertheless there 6 million more 601:18:52
less for this no longer has such a contribution01:18:54
plays a significant role and perhaps it is01:18:57
precisely the adoption of the agreement of all services 301:19:01
markets from the raft tanks, these monstrous01:19:05
plans for murder,01:19:06
perhaps she finally, roughly speaking,01:19:10
to 2 Rican style blew all the01:19:12
brakes on the01:19:14
leadership 301:19:17
these are expensive friends, I would like to01:19:19
finish my lecture before it seems to me that I01:19:21
presented a whole series and such it is for01:19:24
discussion that it was genocide and01:19:26
not some other type of crime, I01:19:29
think this is extremely important01:19:31
because, as I said at the beginning of my01:19:32
lecture, unfortunately the Soviet and01:19:35
post-Soviet historiography did not01:19:37
study this topic, it was not the last01:19:39
to write and proved that Yegor set such a01:19:43
goal, it did not prove that he destroyed an01:19:46
ethnic or national group, but a01:19:48
new generation of historians has grown up, I01:19:51
think that we will prove this thoroughly in a01:19:53
scientific sense, I think that it will follow and01:19:58
will All for this is to make a legal01:20:00
decision which must be made in this01:20:02
matter. so that our01:20:05
friends can read about this, thank you very much01:20:07
for your attention01:20:08
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