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Navalny Live, this is Semyon Erkina, our00:00:04
guest is entrepreneur Evgeniy Chichvarkin00:00:06
Hello Evgeniy Good afternoon I would like to00:00:09
discuss with you the St. Petersburg international00:00:11
forum, how do you like it, how do you like the composition of the00:00:13
participants and Is the concept of00:00:15
such a Russian Davos still there, you know, I saw a00:00:19
lost girl completely naked in00:00:22
the corridor, I realized that the spirit was the first00:00:26
economic form in St. Petersburg in00:00:29
2007. Alive and I was very00:00:32
nostalgic. I almost burst into tears00:00:34
because this is why we loved him very much.00:00:40
But seriously, what are terrorists doing there?00:00:44
What does this have to do with technology,00:00:47
innovation and everything else?00:00:49
it’s convenient to agree on the sale of heroin,00:00:53
all the00:00:55
Designer is there in one place, all the Russian00:00:58
authorities and all the security forces can immediately come to an00:01:02
agreement and experience to sell heroin. I00:01:05
think it’s very convenient to go there00:01:07
through a huckster. Look for some kind of00:01:10
connections to restore. And here you can immediately00:01:13
get the00:01:14
Almighty roof and that’s it00:01:18
drive gerych Afghan broth00:01:22
in tanks That is, you are saying that the00:01:25
flow of narcotics from Afghanistan will increase. But00:01:28
why not, and it seems to me that00:01:29
they came because of this.00:01:32
Well, maybe I don’t know any organs there to buy00:01:35
or sell. I don’t know00:01:38
what they are selling weapons besides heroin.00:01:40
bribe heroin sell it seems to me00:01:45
just the place where you can get all the questions00:01:48
straightened out at once, many are discussing such courage00:01:51
as to humiliate Putin did not recognize the DPR00:01:55
LPR actually stood for a single00:01:57
indivisible Ukraine and do not recognize00:02:00
Taiwan not Kosovo not South Abkhazia not00:02:06
South Ossetia Abkhazia and Apparently00:02:10
this principle will be applied in relation to,00:02:16
in our opinion,00:02:19
Lugansk Donetsk, what do you think about this00:02:22
conflict of Putin and such his Well, I want to00:02:26
remind you that in the DKB during the time00:02:30
such a one came to power00:02:34
and coolly manipulated valuable00:02:38
fuel and got rid of Nazarbayev and his00:02:42
team completely I want to remind you that the00:02:47
DKB brought in troops for three days and then00:02:50
they were simply00:02:54
thrown out of there like rags because00:02:57
in essence Kazakhstan00:03:00
[music]00:03:01
is a conditional protectorate of China and they00:03:05
crawled under China and spoke out about the fact00:03:09
that00:03:11
Kazakhstan doesn’t need help,00:03:14
you’re listening to Putin, that’s why you removed the troops.00:03:18
the offense remains,00:03:20
but Kazakhstan has always been, plus or minus, under00:03:24
the control of Russia and the Russian00:03:28
Russian representatives of the Russian00:03:30
services have always been deputies in all important00:03:33
government bodies of Kazakhstan00:03:34
and are always in service with smuggling00:03:38
about Oil and Gas, I’m generally silent, apparently00:03:41
something went wrong and00:03:44
he has this to me It seems I won’t00:03:48
pronounce his first name and patronymic so as not to be00:03:49
mistaken, as Putin Tokayev asked for00:03:53
help from Kazakhstan,00:03:58
he spoke and thank God the surname is easy to00:04:02
learn, pronounceable, it turned out to be00:04:06
such a Khrushchev syndrome, everyone00:04:09
thinks00:04:10
that it can be manipulated but00:04:13
carefully Between two fires00:04:17
Independently enough politics has00:04:20
degenerated What do you think Will00:04:23
Putin take revenge like this? We see that00:04:25
Russia has already limited the transit of oil from00:04:28
Kazakhstan.00:04:31
I really like these same ones, how they00:04:34
invent why mines from00:04:37
World War II were found.00:04:41
Well,00:04:44
the usual, the usual, but if you remember with00:04:47
oil00:04:48
the price for gas that goes through00:04:52
Ukraine 2000 5 6 7 year every time New00:04:57
Year it was necessary to sign a new00:04:59
contract there was always this gas00:05:02
Blackmail and this is what ours know how to00:05:06
do they know how to do well apparently somehow they00:05:09
will00:05:12
continue to force them00:05:16
to try on I00:05:17
want to say that you are the things Oleg who00:05:21
nailed00:05:25
the swords to the gates00:05:28
shields to the gates Here they are, too, in fact,00:05:31
it was a military trading enterprise for00:05:34
coercion to conclude trade deals,00:05:37
and this was already more than a thousand years ago.00:05:41
We always00:05:42
trade at gunpoint like this.00:05:45
You probably noticed that the00:05:48
officials at the PMF had some... then super00:05:50
sad faces00:05:52
why are they so sad officials are sitting00:05:56
at the PMF was PMS probably gloomy00:06:00
ugly just kidding forgive the00:06:03
rotten faces because everyone understands what’s wrong00:06:05
with business Everything is very bad and00:06:08
everyone is afraid of Putin but what kind of00:06:11
economic form can there be for a country that is00:06:15
actively moving towards autocracy, it’s00:06:21
clear be afraid to say an extra word And00:06:24
you want to steal They came there to steal So it’s00:06:26
in this dilemma that they are00:06:30
torn00:06:32
Eugene You probably have a good idea of00:06:34
how small businesses feel, it’s not00:06:37
very good, but I think that it’s very00:06:40
different I think that00:06:42
some00:06:43
barbershops summer cafe terrace I feel great00:06:48
how it all affected,00:06:51
if there isn’t some I don’t know00:06:54
Italian flour for croissants But it’s00:06:57
not there For everyone And for this cafe for00:07:00
another Eugene there was news that00:07:03
entrepreneurs are leaving00:07:05
Russia en masse Tell me how much it00:07:07
really is entrepreneurs are leaving and00:07:09
how much of a problem this is for the Russian00:07:11
economy, but they tried to leave,00:07:15
moronic European sanctions under which00:07:18
they could open a non-work visa, not a00:07:22
work permit, I don’t see any00:07:26
use of some of the services there00:07:29
specifically for discrimination on Russian00:07:33
passports drove them back to Putin, now00:07:35
partially some people are trying to survive, it is00:07:39
clear that the prospect is most likely00:07:44
bad. But there is such inertia, there is00:07:48
serious inertia, and you can move along this inertia,00:07:51
then look. You can00:07:54
open a collection agency or a shooting range.00:07:57
Where will people train to shoot00:07:59
or a00:08:01
funeral home, and there will be00:08:04
excellent demand for everything ahead; you can00:08:08
develop these businesses there is a lot more that you can00:08:11
come up with a00:08:14
proposal application where when00:08:18
they throw out the overdue food how00:08:21
aggressive the crowd is there how many people are there00:08:24
how many washes What is the preferred00:08:27
food in the overdue period Where are the smoking Where the vegetables00:08:29
also00:08:32
looked interesting and you can move from the00:08:35
garbage dump the garbage dump family are full full and satisfied00:08:39
I really like your sarcasm I00:08:42
wanted I would also like to discuss with you the two00:08:44
trillion rubles that will be allocated from the00:08:46
Russian budget for the restoration00:08:47
of the DPR, the Prime Minister of the DPR stated this. And the00:08:51
Russian authorities did not refute this.00:08:53
Tell me how much 2 trillion rubles is a00:08:57
tangible amount for the Russian budget,00:08:59
this is a lot, this is wet fantasy how much00:09:03
they will steal from there. They are in a sense, they00:09:07
also began to00:09:08
risk their lives and health, they00:09:10
agreed with the security officers and00:09:14
with them that it would be absolutely necessary to00:09:16
share this. This is a question. Well, that is, this is00:09:18
a dream, like someone’s gold is gold Eldorado, there are00:09:23
also subsidies here because it00:09:26
will allow the fifth generation to be stolen for the rest of their lives there00:09:33
Evgeniy you invest in the00:09:35
Ukrainian economy If first, Ukraine00:09:38
wins this war and second, it returns00:09:40
all temporarily occupied territories. I00:09:44
would consider if Ukraine00:09:47
then carries out serious anti-corruption00:09:50
reforms because this is the same00:09:53
secret enemy that sits inside and00:09:57
which may have a fuzzy vision of00:10:01
our other00:10:03
countries and speaking the same language00:10:07
and00:10:10
preventing any investments in Ukraine00:10:14
Clearly First of all, the war00:10:17
unleashed by Putin is monstrous bloody00:10:20
and secondly Quiet00:10:23
Quiet but shackling all corruption and after00:10:31
if the West Maybe I hope will help00:10:36
win a00:10:39
hot war then in the war that is00:10:42
internally only the Will of the00:10:45
Ukrainian people and the Will of the leadership of00:10:50
Ukraine can do what I sincerely wish00:10:53
Eugene I will ask a difficult question Shay Crimea00:10:56
no no much more difficult How do you see00:11:00
the future of Russian-Ukrainian relations,00:11:02
how will these two countries exist00:11:04
with each other and how do you see the neighborhood of00:11:07
Ukraine and Russia00:11:10
Well the next two generations will definitely be00:11:14
enough with00:11:17
at least a00:11:20
feeling of deep mutual distrust and there will be00:11:24
no Friendship hickey, it is clear that there00:11:28
will be no and then it depends on the wisdom of the00:11:31
authorities on the correct concluded00:11:35
peace treaty sent concluded trade00:11:38
agreements00:11:39
it will still have to be done it will00:11:42
still have to be done and on00:11:46
how much the00:11:49
next authorities who will be in Russia in00:11:52
one iteration will act wisely when I hope that after00:11:56
all00:11:59
the authorities are liberal,00:12:07
again, what will be the mood in00:12:10
Ukrainian society because of the ban on the00:12:13
Russian language and00:12:17
what is happening now? In general,00:12:21
I understand why this happened, but I don’t00:12:25
I can’t condemn it because it’s00:12:31
not a look, well, that is, of all Russian songs in00:12:36
books and media, but it00:12:42
seems to me that this is an00:12:46
emotional mistake, understandable Why, it’s absolutely00:12:48
clear why, but00:12:50
still a mistake Evgeniy, I would like to00:12:54
end this interview on a positive00:12:56
note, but I’m afraid my question won’t allow00:12:57
do this as you see the future of the Russian00:13:00
economy In a year or two, a few And I don’t00:13:05
understand, to be honest, they will stop00:13:07
paying Putin for oil and gas, or00:13:09
Apparently not, and it will just be00:13:13
very slow,00:13:15
such a reduction is not tragic, not a00:13:19
radical00:13:20
plunge, a00:13:23
quiet plunge into a00:13:27
situation with the weak service with weak00:13:30
weak competition Glory to the assortments00:13:35
huge amount of00:13:37
smuggling everything from00:13:41
Asia and so on00:13:43
smuggling or proper imports By00:13:46
the way, I have always advocated parallel imports00:13:48
they think it is a very correct00:13:50
decision one way or another00:13:53
phenomenal great helps00:13:57
countries I believe that it should00:14:00
always be there00:14:02
the only useful thing that00:14:05
came to the mind of the Russian authorities is that00:14:08
I would leave it forever,00:14:12
but it’s not clear that nothing good00:14:15
will happen. In the end, after some time, yes. Well,00:14:18
if there is no embargo on oil or00:14:21
gas, it’s still the amount of00:14:24
oil or gas bought and sold, it’s all it will00:14:25
still be much less,00:14:28
sooner or later the price will still00:14:30
line up, plus or minus00:14:33
the market will calm down, and for this00:14:38
high price that we now have,00:14:42
our budget00:14:45
adjusts the income gaseously, they will00:14:47
definitely steal it all, steal the cuts,00:14:52
and therefore in the end it will still not be enough00:14:54
people I don’t trust some kind of positive will of the00:14:58
Russian authorities00:15:00
Evgeny completely forgot to discuss Tsoi’s ban,00:15:04
here in Naberezhnye Chelny00:15:06
Viktor Tsoi’s concert was disrupted, officials banned the00:15:09
performance of his songs and Tsoi can’t be sung00:15:13
now not in Ukraine publicly not in Russia,00:15:17
so it seems to me that my hero00:15:21
Evgenia is standing How soon will the rockers go00:15:24
underground? Will they be strangled? definitely00:15:27
definitely of course00:15:30
we are moving towards totalitarianism this is an00:15:34
obligatory stage00:15:36
someone has already left someone hasn’t been given00:15:39
concerts because of being00:15:42
filmed for it like bi-2 there and so on that’s a00:15:45
must of course and there will be those00:15:50
who will cling to the loins and those who00:15:53
will always be against This is00:15:56
wonderful So it should be00:15:59
immediately visible to a decently indecent00:16:02
person, then in Peacetime it is not clear00:16:05
To the music of course of course certainly of course00:16:14
they need to suffer in order to create00:16:17
Eugene I think on this note we can00:16:19
finish Thank you very much for00:16:21
the conversation We are waiting for you again Friends, if00:16:24
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