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what kind of friends we start from the street00:13:45
social opening wagon my exhibitions00:13:48
index 202200:13:51
my name is Irina Gaida, expert of the center for00:13:55
energy transition skoltech00:13:57
today we have quite an extensive00:14:00
program at the opening ceremony we00:14:02
let's start with a few words of welcome00:14:04
after which we will move on to the actual00:14:07
discussions on how it will develop00:14:10
renewable energy in our country00:14:12
taking into account all new circumstances and for00:14:16
I wanted a short greeting00:14:20
would00:14:21
give the floor to the first speaker00:14:24
Evgeny Glebov Director of the Department00:14:27
mechanical engineering for00:14:28
fuel and energy complex00:14:30
Ministry of Industry and Trade00:14:32
Russian Federation00:14:34
Evgeniy prize and join us00:14:37
online whether when you see it00:14:39
please on the screen00:14:52
a lot of00:14:56
Evgeniy, hello, we can’t hear you00:15:00
apologize00:15:01
I can hear it now, thank you very much00:15:10
he loved life00:15:14
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that's when00:15:17
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ok let's try in this vein00:15:50
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comes out00:16:04
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with an apology00:16:23
produce00:16:26
perhaps for00:16:30
change00:16:38
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cities00:16:47
or00:16:48
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intensive00:16:52
husband and wife00:16:53
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life will be00:16:56
with average00:16:59
reply00:17:18
Lublin00:17:20
Lyublino00:17:22
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zilli00:17:30
these surina00:17:39
except00:17:48
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are you here00:17:59
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fish00:18:16
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or00:18:22
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Want00:18:36
ibis00:18:37
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decided00:18:54
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instagram00:19:00
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[music]00:19:07
diesel00:19:15
saved00:19:17
branch00:19:23
stars00:19:35
Can00:19:37
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And00:19:47
So00:19:51
Hello00:19:53
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came running00:20:05
yes having low interest master mine00:20:09
death star00:20:13
a basic overview of the new program here00:20:16
localization equipment for00:20:20
or is the equipment made to be brought here?00:20:23
rises and00:20:25
the work was actually a program on00:20:27
I would like to say separately match00:20:29
you are happy with the systems we accepted00:20:34
also forecast00:20:35
she is the sister of energy storage00:20:37
guests at this market or contrast00:20:41
will be the main driver00:20:44
Is it like this here all over the world?00:20:47
is happening00:20:49
judges don't grow in mexico00:20:51
car or 5 for sale00:21:01
its moment caused by an external factor but00:21:05
I already said to continue too00:21:09
will lead00:21:14
percent system support is just that00:21:17
just give the most powerful walls up00:21:21
development of the system industry April to00:21:26
the next one which is00:21:30
container system development00:21:34
here according to our forecasts00:21:38
systems00:21:40
from the side of the main effect leaving you00:21:43
[music]00:21:47
no less say let's get some shoes00:21:52
it's a year now00:21:54
need 30 and for like00:21:57
Now00:21:58
[applause]00:22:01
predictably and00:22:03
we naturally very much expressed more00:22:06
our accumulation systems00:22:09
global market but we are focused on what00:22:13
you dogs, new ones were built in Russia00:22:15
factories and this is now our main task00:22:19
create conditions and stimulate our00:22:22
companies for the construction of factories00:22:25
production of liteon batteries00:22:27
is certainly the most important factor for00:22:30
so that you kind of appear00:22:34
various factors for the appearance and00:22:36
the plant receives its own raw materials00:22:38
lithium production and lithium mining success00:22:41
flying to Russia if you are absent now but00:22:45
they are given the right together with00:22:49
With our companies we strive to00:22:53
so that this production of booty flies00:22:56
Russia appeared00:22:58
the company is full, for example, we are selling now00:23:02
project to create a new00:23:03
processing plant production00:23:06
lithium hydroxide battery quality00:23:09
Estonian region00:23:10
you've probably heard about the project00:23:14
shortness at the field in Irkutsk00:23:17
area that will allow us to produce00:23:20
In 2030 it will also fly 10,000 tons00:23:27
Leiter mining production task00:23:29
quickly scattered across the radio00:23:32
a different direction from the point of view previously00:23:35
systemic energy we are moving00:23:38
this is the so called program00:23:41
standardization in the field of valuables from laziness00:23:43
energy for 2000 is the period 2022 202800:23:48
years and00:23:50
the program turned on fell from 50 stand up00:23:53
another important element00:23:56
promoting green development00:23:59
technology of course00:24:02
production and00:24:04
the use of hydrogen again in00:24:07
Recently, companies may have plans00:24:10
some change and but hydrogen you00:24:13
breaks remains promising00:24:15
source of energy and therefore we are talking about00:24:20
We support bidding on houses00:24:22
within00:24:24
federal clean energy project00:24:26
before us we provide support00:24:30
state of average production00:24:32
industrial products for hydrogen00:24:34
energy00:24:36
Also00:24:38
it is planned to launch special testing grounds00:24:40
where is the new equipment00:24:43
maybe test it00:24:46
I continue to develop this sector00:24:49
hydrogen industry sector we00:24:52
bargaining00:24:54
last year we created an atlas00:24:57
hydrogen projects00:25:00
this work is related to the director00:25:03
systematization00:25:04
this lot is seated so that both companies and00:25:08
others interested00:25:10
faces saw our capabilities or our00:25:14
projects in the same context but I00:25:16
just recently00:25:18
formed with the Russian city00:25:21
competences of people's industry00:25:22
it is also 10 cm, you can also find it00:25:26
this year we are planning00:25:28
to support00:25:30
Russian manufacturing company00:25:33
equipment for hydrogen production00:25:38
I hope that's the plan00:25:44
I'm finishing00:25:46
ends with hope that the plan for00:25:49
development in00:25:51
launching ranges they certainly00:25:55
Also00:25:56
will be completed in this way colleagues with00:25:59
from a green technology perspective we00:26:02
now with you00:26:04
focus on equipment development00:26:07
for renewable energy00:26:10
development of energy storage systems00:26:12
as well as hydrogen hydrogen00:26:15
industry I shook three main ones00:26:17
blocks that will allow us to provide00:26:21
our industry00:26:26
I think I need everything, thank you and wish you00:26:29
thank you very much for your fruitful work00:26:32
Thank you00:26:35
real we understand what it means00:26:38
start the exhibition right off the bat it was00:26:41
very detailed and multifaceted review00:26:44
what's happening in the industry if I may00:26:47
we'll go back a little bit now00:26:49
regulations for the opening of the session and I would like00:26:52
invite to the stage00:26:54
high selivanovo without which you00:26:57
Of course this exhibition did not happen00:27:00
first deputy general00:27:02
directors00:27:03
ava expo center00:27:06
beautiful stands beautiful00:27:09
thank you organization for this thank you00:27:12
Irina, good afternoon, dear colleagues already00:27:14
ladies and gentlemen participants and guests00:27:16
exhibitions well Evgeny Evgenievich00:27:17
really set such a businesslike tone00:27:19
our session and exhibition so I00:27:22
Laconically I would like you to show me the exhibition center00:27:25
welcome everyone to the opening00:27:27
international exhibitions and forums index00:27:29
renewable energy electric transport00:27:32
the exhibition is being held for the third time but already00:27:35
over the years she has established herself as00:27:38
effective platform for demonstrating00:27:40
advanced developments in the field00:27:43
renewable energy sources and00:27:46
electric transport and of course we00:27:49
We see it as a place for dialogue and exchange of experience00:27:51
between leading experts00:27:53
representatives of the energy industry00:27:55
I would like to note that at the Rand exhibition00:27:59
2022 more than 70 companies from Russia and00:28:03
China Switzerland and France Austria00:28:07
demonstrates its solutions and technologies00:28:10
I would like to separately note00:28:12
enterprise from Russian regions00:28:14
they are represented by six federal00:28:16
districts and 14 subjects of the Russian00:28:19
federations00:28:21
this year has significantly expanded its00:28:25
scale of electric transport interior and00:28:29
charging infrastructure stations00:28:31
this trend clearly proves that00:28:35
the number of us in the country is increasing00:28:37
means director of transport station00:28:40
charging structures and00:28:42
exhibition we hope including this00:28:44
contributes in addition to leading00:28:48
domestic universities00:28:49
present their00:28:52
educational programs00:28:54
introduce interested visitors to00:28:56
scientific and technological developments in00:28:58
areas green inner and and00:29:00
alternative transport00:29:03
the exhibition accompanies as we see00:29:05
a rich international forum within00:29:08
which we will consider many important for00:29:11
industry issues we would like separately00:29:14
Of course I express my gratitude00:29:16
our partners first and foremost00:29:18
State Duma Ministry00:29:20
Ministry of Energy and Industry00:29:22
trade of the Russian Federation00:29:24
Chamber of Commerce and Industry of Russia00:29:26
Russian energy agency00:29:30
Renewable Development Association00:29:32
energy to the national oil and gas00:29:34
form to all our partners who00:29:37
provided support in the organization00:29:40
holding our important event but00:29:43
and separately, if you allow, I use00:29:47
I would like to thank you00:29:48
State Duma deputies00:29:50
deputy of all sorts of science committee00:29:52
State Duma higher education Vladimir00:29:54
minted for supporting the project he00:29:57
will separately say that this project is in00:29:59
project science technology innovation and00:30:01
congratulate Vladimir Mikhalych this year00:30:04
elected chairman of the All-Russian00:30:05
society00:30:06
inventors and innovators voyeur00:30:09
who turned 90 this year00:30:11
of course we are sure that this will have both00:30:14
for the development of exhibition activities00:30:16
exhibitions Expocentre therefore in Mikhalych00:30:18
thank you for your support dear00:30:20
colleagues, I wish all project participants00:30:23
Ren 2022 productive work and00:30:26
further development thank you00:30:30
thanked Sergei, I think after00:30:32
such a wonderful introduction we just00:30:35
obliged to invite Vladimir to the stage00:30:36
Mika it's better if it's you00:30:39
deputy chairman of the committee00:30:42
Russian State Duma00:30:44
Federation for Science and Higher Education00:30:48
thank you Sergeevich unexpectedly00:30:51
the press hasn't written it yet, it was on00:30:54
last week00:30:55
dear colleagues and dear presidium00:30:58
coming on behalf of our committee on00:31:02
science, your education, I want everyone too00:31:04
greet and congratulate00:31:06
the discovery of this unique00:31:07
large-scale event index00:31:10
2022 and I want to say that the year has flown by00:31:15
quickly I remember exactly a year ago00:31:17
around the same time if I'm wrong00:31:20
in the same hall we held a congress at00:31:23
tall event forum-exhibition00:31:26
index 20-21 but how quickly time flies and00:31:32
of course what happened a year ago and then00:31:35
what is this now if not another world then00:31:39
another life is at least very00:31:41
a lot has changed and in these conditions00:31:45
new geopolitical and economic00:31:46
realities under those harsh sanctions00:31:49
which are now presented00:31:52
unfriendly Western countries to00:31:54
our country is becoming very important00:31:57
more demanded harmonization00:31:59
using both traditional and00:32:01
renewable energy sources00:32:04
Today it is obvious that the Russian sector00:32:07
no need for a new development model00:32:10
based on one's own00:32:11
production base, which is already discussed today00:32:14
the Ministry of Industry and Trade spoke00:32:16
I won't talk for long because that's it00:32:19
we are having a ceremony now00:32:22
say greetings and not reports they have yet00:32:26
ahead I want to say support00:32:28
Sergeevich that three years ago00:32:31
this Yandex project has entered00:32:34
major project large-scale ntx in science00:32:37
technology and innovation xp it is already 6 years old00:32:40
for example, Russian week of highs00:32:43
technologies that traditionally pass00:32:45
in April and this year it was in April00:32:46
The head start is already in its sixth year00:32:49
artificial Russian industrial00:32:51
week 5 years forum on artificial00:32:54
intelligence00:32:55
three years, two times there was a president of this00:32:58
forum this is also our initiative00:33:01
picked up Sberbank and00:33:04
Hendrix which is taking place today00:33:06
It also opens for three years, there's still time00:33:10
Russian healthcare week00:33:12
there we are, so to speak, with and not to carry00:33:15
initiated all this by commercial and industrial00:33:18
the chamber and the exhibition center supported a number of00:33:21
federal ministries and departments we00:33:22
we have collected the most interesting let's say00:33:25
innovative projects in different industries00:33:28
economy00:33:29
under this brand intel expo but I00:33:32
I am a representative of the organizing committee, here I am00:33:34
I want to say that the business program of this00:33:37
the events are very busy but I can’t00:33:40
not to say about one, so to say about one00:33:43
with the procession that will take place tomorrow at 100000:33:47
in the hall which I call the pyramid of the Louvre00:33:50
in the glass hall here at the expo center I00:33:53
I invite everyone there will be discussed00:33:55
renewable energy issues00:33:57
perspective laws personnel here00:34:01
Rectors are also present and here to reveal00:34:03
Dear my close comrade rector00:34:06
Moscow Energy Institute00:34:08
Nikolay Rogalev00:34:11
tomorrow is also a number of vectors of Russia which00:34:13
drag have hide these directions00:34:17
will also perform and00:34:19
I want to thank all the organizers00:34:21
of this event she really00:34:23
organized00:34:24
I hope he will continue to release everything00:34:27
these days are clear and it's a lot of work00:34:30
especially, of course, gratitude00:34:32
Chamber of Commerce and Industry and personally00:34:34
Sergei Nikolaychuk and Katerina00:34:35
General Director of the Expocenter of Russia00:34:38
talking fork, well, in conclusion00:34:40
of course I can’t help but say that despite00:34:42
no matter what and these tough sanctions00:34:45
Russia's energy challenges will be00:34:48
decided and victory will definitely be ours00:34:51
wished was00:34:53
[applause]00:34:55
spread we again ask Nikolai to speak00:35:00
Dmitrich Gal has no new rector00:35:02
Moscow Energy Institute00:35:08
dear members of the presidium dear00:35:11
colleagues, I am very glad to welcome you to00:35:13
such a wonderful forum here00:35:17
Head of the Department of the Ministry of Industry and Trade00:35:20
spoke about what initiatives00:35:22
are planned in the production area00:35:24
energy equipment00:35:26
on topics that are discussed today at00:35:28
conference I wanted to say that in this00:35:32
regarding the personnel component is extremely00:35:34
important in this regard too, together with00:35:37
RusHydro and00:35:39
under the leadership of Nikolay Grigoriev steps00:35:42
but then he leads in this company we00:35:44
created an institute of hydropower00:35:45
renewable energy waste00:35:48
the development of electrification is only here00:35:50
electric transport chat electrification00:35:52
In general, this is a global trend again00:35:55
energy use when oriented00:35:58
one of our institutes and start 70000:36:00
electrical engineering electrification but also00:36:03
created another institute00:36:05
hydrogen energy efficiency00:36:07
energetics of hydrogen technologies is00:36:10
perhaps the weakest link in personnel00:36:12
provision today because hydrogen with00:36:14
in terms of chemical formula and everything00:36:17
what's happening to him looks00:36:18
very attractive but the devil is in the details00:36:22
and they gave a lot and we are in this regard00:36:24
they even wrote I think you are the first00:36:26
textbook on hydrogen money outlined00:36:29
what are their methods for producing hydrogen00:36:31
storage and so on there is a lot and00:36:33
mathematics engineering no matter how it seems00:36:36
that hydrogen is somehow so magical00:36:38
thing we all knew but didn't00:36:39
use00:36:42
many of us but at least me00:36:44
I am certainly impressed by those in00:36:46
discussions that took place recently00:36:48
last week in St. Petersburg00:36:50
economic forum a lot00:36:52
talked about energy00:36:54
about my native and in this sense, well, it could00:36:58
give someone the impression that00:37:00
green energy and hedgehogs agenda is strong00:37:02
staggered00:37:04
this didn't happen to me very much00:37:08
I like the formula that belongs to00:37:10
academician energy halo longer in derek00:37:14
about HIV he said that energy is00:37:16
synthesis of physics and economics and in this regard00:37:20
development of small renewable energy00:37:22
large energy electric transport00:37:25
it must be subordinated to hydrogen00:37:27
this formula because there must be or00:37:29
economic efficiency and then that's it00:37:31
works or this is also true00:37:34
social00:37:36
necessity as it happens in00:37:39
isolated region million distributed00:37:42
energy can find its place00:37:44
Of course she won't compete there00:37:46
Let's say with the price of electricity RusHydro00:37:48
there is the first or second price zone but in00:37:50
accept will bring comfort00:37:52
to our citizens who live there00:37:55
the most important thing may even be ours00:37:58
we want you to achieve00:38:00
Russian deputy is always slow00:38:03
harnessed and in this sense maybe00:38:06
such caution that we had with00:38:08
she gave a little energy to return00:38:10
fruits because such contempt00:38:12
occurred after all the accidents in the USA in00:38:16
southern states after all that00:38:18
happened now in Europe is developing but00:38:21
give you need all types of energy but00:38:23
balanced each side on00:38:25
whichever we look at00:38:27
develops its energy after all, although from00:38:29
national interests and their00:38:31
own resources with this00:38:32
with a wish and let me finish my00:38:35
speech to everyone health and good discus00:38:37
save more00:38:38
[music]00:38:40
thank you, well, now we begin00:38:44
move on to welcoming everyone00:38:47
participants who will then continue00:38:50
already discuss the topic format00:38:53
discussions I would like to invite00:38:56
Andrey Maximov00:38:58
Director of the Development Department00:38:59
Electric power industry of the Ministry of Energy of Russia00:39:06
Colleagues, good afternoon, glad to welcome you00:39:09
forum participants and in this part of course00:39:13
firstly, it should be noted that he is already00:39:16
This is not the first time we are discussing so to speak and00:39:18
and initiating problems and solutions00:39:21
and in this regard, of course I want00:39:23
wish the forum participants in this00:39:26
discussions find their application and in this00:39:30
plan we will try from the outside00:39:32
Ministry of Energy this whole story00:39:33
consolidate launch should be noted00:39:36
that really is the one00:39:38
a trend he took on back in 201400:39:42
started at nine to fourteen00:39:45
determined what is really00:39:46
development of renewable energy in the Russian Federation00:39:49
should go the way of localization then00:39:51
there is precisely a reversal of production00:39:53
reversal of personnel training in the world and00:39:57
in fact, recent events have shown00:39:59
what is this00:40:00
the path was right00:40:02
and only such a path should be your own00:40:04
be therefore in this regard of course00:40:07
we will continue to remind you that we have00:40:10
federal clean project approved00:40:13
energy, everyone's plans are upset and we00:40:17
at least accurately and the Ministry of Energy even from00:40:20
top who are developing this00:40:22
sectors we don’t give up on them anymore00:40:26
operate more than five gigawatts00:40:28
regeneration even if you don’t take more00:40:30
generating the form of a large weight in 2 thirtieth00:40:34
year 12 gigawatts according to plans therefore00:40:36
There's a long long wait ahead of us00:40:38
interesting job00:40:40
so everyone still has a long way to go00:40:43
Let's discuss in more detail in more detail00:40:46
in these directions which was so00:40:49
that colleagues, I welcome everyone and am glad00:40:51
see thanks00:40:54
and concludes the opening ceremony, let me00:40:58
invite Bolivia Seleznyov first00:41:01
deputy chairman of the committee00:41:02
State Duma Federal00:41:03
meeting of the Russian Federation on00:41:06
energy00:41:09
Dear colleagues, friends, I am pleased00:41:13
participate once again in it00:41:16
international exhibition opening forum00:41:19
managed to walk around00:41:22
expo nation and00:41:26
I saw how inspired they really were00:41:30
these are the faces that inspire and it gives00:41:34
reason believes that in principle we are not00:41:36
on the right track and00:41:38
the period we are currently experiencing00:41:42
no one denying00:41:44
everything related to green00:41:47
agenda of light energy sun with00:41:51
electric mobile transport in Russia00:41:54
have your own path thanks to those00:41:56
hydrocarbons that we have says00:41:59
once again about what is needed for this00:42:01
resist resist00:42:04
speaking in a reasoned manner like this00:42:08
forums meetings continuing00:42:12
develop all types of energy about what00:42:16
Rogalev said that we need00:42:19
a certain balance so as not to lose00:42:22
the technologies we have00:42:24
historically from this advantage00:42:27
hydrocarbons which I already said but also00:42:30
not to lag behind in development and not to fall behind00:42:32
for some short time00:42:34
dependent in the energy transition on those00:42:37
technologies that are now being born in00:42:40
new types in new industries00:42:42
so I would like to be productive00:42:45
wish you productive dialogues and00:42:49
good mood to all participants00:42:52
legislative level00:42:53
energy committee which I00:42:56
I represent the State Duma on this forum00:43:00
promises and solemnly swears that00:43:04
supports reasonable initiatives in every possible way00:43:07
which will allow us to develop this00:43:10
great sector thank you very much00:43:13
thank you very much, now let's00:43:17
having started, in general, there are very00:43:21
inspiring and in fact often00:43:22
quite detailed introductory words00:43:25
I still wanted to suggest a little in the corner00:43:27
go into detail for me first00:43:30
impressions of the St. Petersburg forum in this00:43:32
year there was a domestic electric car00:43:36
and an electric cargo vehicle, which is fair00:43:38
it was unexpected to say00:43:40
because in all current00:43:42
circumstances it seemed to me that00:43:44
perhaps this is the part of innovation that00:43:46
will be slightly less pronounced on such00:43:49
sites, at the same time, we see that00:43:52
St. Petersburg forum and wonderful00:43:55
the expositions of the participants in this exhibition are what00:43:59
in general actually happens on00:44:01
personal development in many sectors00:44:04
renewable energy and my first00:44:06
Question from Alexey Zhikharevo Director00:44:09
Renewable Energy Association00:44:11
and our partner about this consulting our view00:44:14
from maintaining the pace of development in this00:44:18
industry in difficult geopolitical conditions00:44:21
is it possible and what needs to be done00:44:23
perhaps even to speed things up00:44:26
You00:44:28
Good afternoon00:44:30
good afternoon thank you for your question good00:44:33
Colleagues day welcome everyone00:44:35
thanks to the organizers for00:44:37
such a difficult time no matter what00:44:40
gathered such a representative00:44:43
community and the exposition of which I appreciated00:44:46
Voli Sergeevich00:44:48
If I'm short great question and then00:44:51
I would like to share other thoughts that00:44:53
it seems important to understand this now00:44:55
stage I think that's what's happening now00:44:58
the very period that can be called00:45:00
a second chance for our Russian economy00:45:04
sleep00:45:06
more independent from our traditional00:45:10
economic sectors00:45:12
hydrocarbons I have before here00:45:14
in view and switch to industry with00:45:17
high added value00:45:18
With00:45:20
at high levels having converted into those or00:45:22
other industries and here, first of all, we00:45:26
We're talking about a carbon snowball00:45:28
trip because it's probably not a secret00:45:31
for all beings and it is obvious that00:45:33
the current centuries will definitely pass under00:45:37
flag00:45:38
in green we see massive investments in00:45:42
these carbonation00:45:44
world economy this is not00:45:46
only developed countries and developing countries00:45:48
countries have started these flights, what gives00:45:51
reason to believe00:45:54
that the demand for products that can be00:45:58
attribute understand green00:46:01
everything related to energy00:46:03
hydrogen energy technologies with00:46:05
CO2 capture technologies00:46:09
use of all these technologies00:46:11
will be in great demand00:46:13
for several decades00:46:16
so obviously now there is just one00:46:19
the very moment when we can do this00:46:22
They say you can't step into the same river twice00:46:23
you belt apparently can be used for many years with00:46:27
you00:46:28
discussed00:46:29
some missed chance for Russia that00:46:33
here we are trying to jump on the bandwagon00:46:36
the last carriage leaving and we seem to00:46:39
on it from the point of view of green development00:46:41
the energy workers dropped by but now we are00:46:44
I guess we can go there again and00:46:46
maybe even fit in the first one00:46:49
class00:46:51
what am I talking about that's all that00:46:55
speculation, well, I can’t call it anything else00:46:57
which is happening around now00:47:01
that in any case now everything00:47:05
countries will begin to increase00:47:07
the demand for hydrocarbons is certainly in what00:47:10
there is a moment in time there before 22 2300:47:14
we may actually see a comeback00:47:16
some old technologies and even growth00:47:18
coal consumption in developed countries but00:47:21
if we look at real documents00:47:24
which are accepted in different countries are not00:47:27
only european ripper asian00:47:29
countries over the last six months, we will see00:47:32
what attention is paid to strengthening00:47:35
even greater strengthening00:47:38
emphasis in the development of low-carbon00:47:40
energy sector in Europe almost doubled00:47:43
plans to increase the annual rate of water00:47:45
V00:47:47
carbon-free renewable energy00:47:50
there are serious plans for promotion00:47:52
energy efficiency pushes it all00:47:55
us to realize what is really00:47:59
there is a risk sooner or later of our00:48:01
economy to lose those00:48:05
export possibilities but I don't currently00:48:07
I'm talking about the current geopolitical00:48:08
the situation is clear that we are already in00:48:11
such00:48:12
storm situations but even suppose if00:48:15
in this situation it was not in any case00:48:17
we see this bonus risk absolutely00:48:19
tangible if we are still with you that year00:48:22
discussed that these events would happen there00:48:24
closer to the fifties then now00:48:27
The picture looks absolutely realistic00:48:29
knock the forecasts will come true already00:48:32
horizon of the thirties so now00:48:36
getting back to the question, I think the most00:48:39
time we can't miss00:48:41
another chance00:48:43
And00:48:44
these are the attempts to convince both the community and00:48:48
business and government00:48:50
is that00:48:52
low carbon and the agenda is bigger00:48:55
is the agenda there00:48:59
that everything related to the abbreviation of g00:49:02
no more worrying about business00:49:06
investments that go green00:49:09
no more00:49:11
are sustainable, it seems to me that all of these00:49:14
they really are trying00:49:16
extremely00:49:18
looks careless and we00:49:21
everyone here should realize that now00:49:24
that's the time when it's the other way around00:49:26
business00:49:28
firstly we communicate with business and00:49:30
We understand that thank God there is such a business00:49:32
no yes, sometimes the authorities can00:49:34
allow yourself such statements but00:49:36
when we communicate with business we hear about00:49:39
that no one gives up their00:49:42
no one refuses the green strategy00:49:44
from those events that are accepted in ram00:49:46
Hedgehog strategists understand that this is sustainable00:49:49
development path which presupposes00:49:53
sustainability of the investment over the long term and00:49:55
what is sustainable00:49:57
development is first and foremost safety00:49:59
your money that you invest00:50:01
or other business you know that in five00:50:03
years there your business will not collapse because of00:50:05
because of some new phenomena this is exactly what00:50:08
is a basis in general00:50:10
understand sustainable development, but what if00:50:13
return our green energy00:50:16
again we are the last four months00:50:19
we hear a lot00:50:22
And00:50:23
there is general criticism that00:50:25
industrial was created incorrectly00:50:28
sector here we were present00:50:29
foreign players who are now leaving00:50:31
and therefore00:50:33
the industry is bad00:50:35
now it means we need to think about how to do it00:50:37
transform in this sense I think00:50:40
that such things should not be allowed now00:50:43
well, even the assumption that there is someone there00:50:45
bad in the first place and there are the same ones00:50:48
foreign companies are difficult here00:50:50
blame because they too unfortunately00:50:52
forced to listen to those rules00:50:54
which are imposed from outside00:50:57
But00:50:58
despite this, we can now00:51:00
to state that in general it is enough00:51:02
a short period of time is about 5-7 years00:51:06
Russia in general has formed a new00:51:08
powerful class on renewable00:51:10
energy from scratch let me remind you now00:51:13
we have about three 337 gigawatts00:51:17
capacities built in recent years00:51:20
since the twentieth year we have reached the pace00:51:23
development of various energy sources more than a thousand00:51:27
megawatt, last year to be exact00:51:29
this 1212 megawatts, well, there is no such pace00:51:33
in others00:51:34
sectors at the moment and00:51:39
we need to understand what the effect is in general00:51:41
then brings these same projects that00:51:43
are implemented within the framework of support programs00:51:45
for the development of the economy and, in general, our00:51:48
countries regional economies it is important to understand00:51:51
that the geography of the project is in the same00:51:55
who climbed spa support programs and00:51:58
projects that are being drawn up at retail00:52:00
subjects' markets are 38 regions, that is00:52:03
that's almost half00:52:05
regions of our country and of course such00:52:08
projects when they are in the regions00:52:11
are carried out they provide00:52:13
multiplier effect on development00:52:14
regional economy we see that they00:52:16
everyone is an extra boost00:52:18
For00:52:19
growth00:52:21
entrepreneurial activity in these00:52:24
these subjects and00:52:26
This is also important not to forget because00:52:29
when the calls sound there00:52:31
slow down some investments or00:52:34
postpone the decision to hold new ones there00:52:37
selections within the program we must00:52:39
understand that by doing so we are postponing and00:52:41
development of our economy and development00:52:43
our regions now as I see it00:52:46
the most important thing is not to repulse00:52:50
but the investor's desire to invest in00:52:53
we have all become the Russian economy00:52:54
witnessed capital flight00:52:59
in significant volumes from Russia after00:53:02
many people abandoned famous events00:53:06
investing here for various reasons00:53:07
according to their different beliefs00:53:11
And but at the same time remained in a wide circle00:53:13
investors who are ready to invest in00:53:16
Russian economy00:53:17
who are ready to develop here low00:53:19
carbon energy and it seems to me00:53:23
that the most important thing now is to preserve this00:53:25
willingness to invest money in00:53:28
economy because it will00:53:31
depends on how quickly we get out00:53:33
current crisis and with what face and00:53:36
regarding indicators00:53:40
this is the energy industry which is already00:53:42
it works I just wanted it too anyway00:53:44
record these numbers because often00:53:47
I hear it at various events there00:53:49
various speculations about the state of00:53:52
end of 2021 we have wind generation00:53:56
operates at 30 percent efficiency00:53:59
this is more than 10 percent higher than those00:54:02
the limits that00:54:03
installed in regulation and solar00:54:05
energy 14 3 percent which too00:54:07
correspondingly higher than established00:54:10
indicators00:54:11
government decree why is this00:54:13
I say because I often hear different00:54:15
events accusations that this00:54:17
energy works with a coefficient00:54:20
used up to the required power there00:54:21
below five percent colleagues this is not true00:54:24
let's see what percentage of thermal00:54:27
power plants in Russia work with00:54:29
piercing installed power is less00:54:31
20 I assure you they are very serious00:54:35
the numbers are about 30 gigawatts so here it is00:54:38
Now I think the most important thing is00:54:40
keep the same principles of the program00:54:43
allow sloppy verbal00:54:46
interventions that we regularly hear00:54:48
including from authorities that00:54:51
necessary00:54:53
as I already said cancel the program or00:54:55
how do you correct it verbally00:54:57
interventions are a very dangerous thing, we00:54:59
we all see how the market reacts to00:55:03
some messages from the heads of central00:55:05
banks00:55:07
from00:55:08
authorities I have on financial00:55:11
markets so believe me the market00:55:14
renewable energy where real00:55:17
people work and real money00:55:19
invest in these projects, he is also very00:55:21
sensitive so now I00:55:23
this seems to be the most important thing00:55:25
I can't resist in this situation00:55:28
rocks the boat further we will see here00:55:31
I'm sure there's enough room in the market for everyone00:55:33
new players00:55:35
which will provide localization and00:55:37
in the wind energy sector and successfully00:55:40
sweep away from those who left him and in00:55:43
in the solar energy sector we also00:55:45
we will see active development now00:55:48
major projects are being implemented that00:55:50
will ensure sustainable development00:55:52
this sector, so it seems to me that00:55:55
all these points need to be paid attention to00:55:56
and now00:55:58
carry only positive energy00:56:01
in this way thanks to you00:56:05
Alexey, if I can have one question for the flag00:56:08
mentioned very often00:56:10
sunny00:56:13
we refuel and do you see the energy?00:56:16
development potential example of thermal00:56:19
what a normal geothermal but00:56:23
look we are really talking00:56:26
when we discuss possible energy00:56:28
basically check times he just force00:56:30
that the main volumes00:56:32
currently implemented under the program00:56:34
support is truly the wind to the sun00:56:36
about 50/50 science is the most 37 and00:56:39
gigawatt00:56:41
light weight is also present in the program but00:56:43
Unfortunately, it has only been implemented there so far00:56:45
100 megawatt projects and00:56:47
total for two programs00:56:50
this volume will be about 300 megawatts00:56:52
geothermal00:56:53
technology is not yet included in the perimeter00:56:55
wholesale market on simply due to the fact that00:56:57
that intelligence is actually fields00:57:00
geothermal they are just in00:57:01
isolated territories but to what extent00:57:04
I know it's active now00:57:06
it's being worked on at least here I am00:57:08
I know a project in Kamchatka00:57:12
geothermal new field near00:57:13
Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky00:57:14
if my memory serves me correctly the project00:57:16
sells oil abroad initiated00:57:19
I think this has prospects00:57:21
technology certainly exists, but00:57:23
unfortunately geothermal00:57:25
geothermal power plants cannot00:57:27
just like being sunny00:57:28
placed almost anywhere00:57:31
we have sun everywhere and geothermal00:57:33
the source still suggests00:57:35
enough you need to understand enough00:57:37
serious expensive research here00:57:40
countries where energy is developed there00:57:43
There are separate insurance programs00:57:45
subsidizing specifically00:57:48
one exploration and geothermal00:57:50
sources because drill one00:57:52
well and for example00:57:54
to be wrong, it costs a lot of money00:57:57
so here are many developed countries00:57:58
launch such subsidized programs00:58:01
insurance I think that the prospects00:58:03
We definitely have it, we need to develop it00:58:06
It's probably important to run the program here00:58:08
also with00:58:10
with the participation of any development institute00:58:12
any government agency with00:58:15
support of the research program00:58:18
for such projects00:58:21
everyone is there if I'm not mistaken you wanted00:58:25
add Sergei stepmother's deputy00:58:27
general director for project00:58:29
NCU engineers international development00:58:32
cooperation times hetero00:58:35
yes no they don't work00:58:41
Maybe00:58:44
I'm sorry it's hard to hear00:58:49
now the old people will solve the quality issue00:58:54
thank you for the temporary help mission00:58:59
berry I'll tell you about our company though00:59:03
you know everything perfectly well such company you00:59:05
hydra what we do but00:59:08
my numbers which we are today00:59:11
in the form of deposits where crabs for their development00:59:14
countries are comparable in terms of generation00:59:19
samples there and then you so on I00:59:21
I wanted to add briefly00:59:24
Are there any prospects?00:59:26
children know00:59:27
all that is now decks of legends Alexey00:59:30
correctly noted that geothermal00:59:32
Olga tag she is quite expensive on00:59:34
because someone00:59:37
were not really in Christmas tree exploration00:59:40
so that the edge is not dear, I bring you00:59:42
the numbers we have are in vain for the company whose00:59:45
today Zionism megawatts are like this00:59:46
normal children ki in established00:59:49
power00:59:50
we know how much it costs to dig how much00:59:52
Experience costs one well to a depth of 200:59:56
kilometers and costs a billion rubles and01:00:00
of course put cost experiments01:00:04
tens of billions of rubles that are not01:00:07
may be legally classified as01:00:10
no economically justified tariff01:00:13
There is01:00:14
the first company will reveal the secret01:00:18
some partnership with the tax authorities01:00:22
implemented micro technologies01:00:24
seismic sounding is what it's about01:00:26
colleagues were just saying01:00:28
exploration 2 geothermal while marine01:00:32
deposits are in the same place where we have01:00:34
1 is placed like this in order not to01:00:36
bring01:00:37
we will check the research done 3d can on01:00:41
depth of 46 kilometers in just 4001:00:44
million rubles not for billions I’m over 4001:00:46
millions01:00:48
accuracy dance nine percent author01:00:51
the boy's IT which is extremely important for01:00:54
development drivers get biotherm is01:00:57
binary color when you need electricity01:00:59
produce floating electricity like this01:01:02
if we're talking about what's in the comics01:01:05
kilowatt-hour geothermal energy01:01:06
which today amount to three01:01:08
two hundred dollars per kilowatt themselves01:01:11
reducing power is the same thing01:01:14
a complex link in geological exploration, then we01:01:17
we can find it there at 2,500 ready maybe01:01:19
to be even in 2000 is completely different01:01:21
economy01:01:22
But with the current dollar exchange rate it’s not the same01:01:24
it turns out expensive01:01:26
Another important point is Kamchatka01:01:30
Sakhalin is partly Chukotka, that is, this01:01:32
such people are historically very active and01:01:34
the area where still living volcanoes live01:01:37
just put green energy grass01:01:40
It’s actually possible to do some landscaping01:01:42
regions01:01:43
here is the heat supply and here are the sources01:01:46
at the same time from me it is obligatory to 4601:01:49
the perimeter is drilled but from the point of view01:01:51
energy balance of green areas01:01:53
there is plenty of capacity to cover01:01:55
n plus 1 plus 2 can be done here is the question01:01:58
sustainability of power systems and what this is for01:02:01
this means that the world does not stand still and01:02:03
Russia too01:02:05
After all, radio develops in its own time and01:02:08
atomic reactor01:02:10
and the diesel engine was invented01:02:11
in parallel there are many many important people well01:02:14
and a little later I’ll tell you the rest01:02:25
people are very positive about it01:02:29
All01:02:31
contribution to the development of the Russian economy I would01:02:34
wanted to stop talking to him on his leg01:02:36
thickener at the director's royal01:02:39
Russia is already even in force01:02:42
why so01:02:45
your company does the whole spectrum like01:02:48
will display everything most likely this is a balance01:02:51
Russia and also worth it for Russia with01:02:54
green energy partner as01:03:00
thanks for the question for talking to everyone01:03:02
we see the specifics of our company01:03:04
development of melted arctic bloons so01:03:06
that state blankets01:03:09
Well, the most likely scenario is that01:03:11
for battle in strategic documents01:03:13
planning firstly he states01:03:15
obvious thing today01:03:18
fuel and energy balance01:03:19
Russian Federation he01:03:21
Very01:03:23
there are 54 percent01:03:25
and about it ranks caste in the world01:03:28
said01:03:30
.01:03:32
[music]01:03:34
with our partners01:03:38
actually low natural01:03:41
energy sources01:03:43
large small about power plants01:03:46
nuclear power plant which by the way01:03:47
photos01:03:49
let's cross the fork that we01:03:51
Maltsev01:03:52
we recharge their energy for a total of an hour01:03:56
make up01:03:57
in the total balance about ten percent01:04:01
at the same time, the trend is towards a decrease in production to01:04:04
nights of course politics on this01:04:06
directed and01:04:08
by the fortieth year we expect that01:04:12
occupy a little less than thirty percent01:04:15
low carbon sector only but also01:04:16
quality balance and 60 ml Türkiye should01:04:19
reach 50 percent01:04:24
what is being done for this purpose01:04:27
in addition to the fact that the software01:04:30
support resumed for the Arctic01:04:32
last year twisted and dialed01:04:34
Tell01:04:37
we have [music]01:04:39
federal01:04:40
federal01:04:42
regulated01:04:44
trend support and stimulation01:04:46
carbon footprint reduction01:04:49
[music]01:04:53
players and them01:04:55
perspective simply must01:04:57
they genza implement the so-called01:04:59
green environmental projects and for01:05:02
this01:05:03
specialized sources us01:05:07
I was surprised there01:05:10
result of a lot of work01:05:12
mona lisa01:05:15
and in the first part I will tell you about the big01:05:17
energy of the majority of01:05:19
energy balance but the Bible itself01:05:21
speaking and if the last question01:05:26
since we01:05:28
on the site which01:05:30
including space01:05:32
pulls01:05:34
state in addition to great history01:05:38
and hydrogen01:05:39
support01:05:41
generation transitions such share studio01:05:43
who told him to apply natural01:05:45
water sources01:05:47
and reducing the image of motor vehicles01:05:51
she didn't erase watch an hour to share01:05:53
small support programs01:05:55
let's get divorced01:05:56
fruity just a grandfather01:05:58
espada will come in01:06:00
support01:06:01
And01:06:03
support or to the charger01:06:06
state plans depending on what it is01:06:09
here you are 2 years more than doubled01:06:10
number of quick rides to the station01:06:13
my in being funding01:06:17
slow charging station which is in01:06:19
corset01:06:20
that will become reality01:06:24
What01:06:25
concerns the critic quoting brilliant green01:06:27
projects on how is he doing01:06:28
agency so01:06:30
called to be01:06:32
not great for the certification of those green ones01:06:34
projects01:06:35
started preliminary analysis01:06:36
prospects01:06:41
we must not forget this in the grand scheme of things01:06:43
energy balance why know singer things01:06:46
which are very closely related to spring01:06:49
times to drink01:06:55
maybe there is not enough heat but01:06:56
turns out to be 601:06:58
for socio-economic development01:07:02
this01:07:03
we're so afraid01:07:05
child. and authorities01:07:07
companies01:07:10
means my perspective01:07:12
support for what01:07:13
even a number of educational01:07:17
actually variations of my [ __ ]01:07:19
lessons aspect01:07:20
work until implementation seriously serious01:07:23
pointer01:07:24
encyclopedias01:07:29
concerns01:07:31
companies01:07:32
if with batteries01:07:34
it's not a secret to anybody01:07:35
[music]01:07:37
atmosphere activity01:07:39
all close plans01:07:44
closer microphones if possible01:07:47
synchronized document01:07:49
strategic planning and somehow01:07:52
divide as a matter of fact01:07:55
interaction between the state and your business01:07:57
quite difficult because01:07:59
rushing to achieve this bright01:08:02
[music]01:08:05
I was asked that01:08:06
Start01:08:07
owner concerns export green01:08:09
world01:08:12
despite the current situation01:08:17
Regina almost lets me lie to01:08:18
last year electricity exports01:08:19
countries01:08:22
there is our gate because it is green01:08:24
our world needs more and more balance and01:08:26
more from lego01:08:29
including ensuring energy01:08:30
security I think01:08:33
if someone is emotionally appropriate01:08:37
I'm addicted to sports01:08:39
we won't forgive01:08:40
in fact, how are you environmentally01:08:42
clean energy01:08:44
say a word on the topic01:08:45
[music]01:08:46
him of the president01:08:48
show carbon energy being implemented01:08:52
implementation programs socially oriented situations01:08:54
which is very closely related to the essence01:08:56
development of regional Arctic01:08:58
balance and based on sales results not 101:09:03
talking about a certain01:09:04
sequence if within this01:09:05
the program will come out were allocated a region then01:09:08
there was a chairman as given what01:09:09
red is a panacea what is where01:09:12
recognize it as the main energy carrier01:09:14
can't be needed01:09:17
develop expansion plans01:09:19
implementation of environmentally friendly01:09:23
time including updated genes01:09:25
the index itself01:09:30
It's not even tomorrow, it's today01:09:32
and I think that if these programs are all01:09:34
see life then01:09:37
we might even have to do it a little01:09:39
will correct our view of development for01:09:40
parents are also included in the updates01:09:42
a large energy balance may not even be01:09:44
in fractions of a percent01:09:46
which way01:09:49
increase01:09:51
but not to the detriment of energy01:09:52
security01:09:53
that is, tidal power plants in01:09:56
area of Penza google and be and01:09:59
I’m ready to answer you in the affirmative01:10:01
the road depends on many01:10:04
factors01:10:06
level of technological development01:10:08
not tomorrow not through Gornik from 2 will allow01:10:10
I have no doubt about doing this01:10:12
the whole question is that01:10:15
and there corresponding energy is required01:10:17
it's inappropriate for you to spend on a vending machine01:10:20
these technical solutions cost so much money01:10:22
or actually in a barrel01:10:24
again stripes who like active ones01:10:27
Mishes for use01:10:29
significant resources01:10:33
not ready to answer but why not01:10:35
if something useful .01:10:39
thank you01:10:41
after such a range of opinions, let's say01:10:45
about the prospects01:10:47
fuel and energy complex in01:10:48
in general and renewable energy and01:10:51
component parts I wanted to address one01:10:54
and the same question by the representative01:10:55
legislative and executive powers01:10:58
and the question is this, given that we01:11:03
we are seeing a decrease01:11:04
cost of all technologies01:11:07
low carbon grate and more01:11:11
spreading01:11:14
all stages of the value chain in01:11:17
in Russia this industry still remains01:11:20
quite expensive and often requiring01:11:23
quite serious support measures01:11:26
including within us will receive support and01:11:30
Here's a question for Andrey maximum01:11:33
Valeria I'll take a picture here01:11:35
Let's just say how much, taking into account everyone01:11:39
current circumstances01:11:42
comparing the needs of traditional energy01:11:45
renewable energy how to find01:11:48
the right balance between the two01:11:50
large segments01:11:53
how how here01:11:56
let's try how to turn it on01:11:59
just talk let's up01:12:02
there's a microphone, I'll try my colleagues, but01:12:06
this part we took the position that01:12:10
we need to develop all sectors and be like this01:12:14
say on01:12:16
on this signal including the sector and01:12:19
renewable energy is of course necessary01:12:22
development is definitely speaking here already01:12:25
they said I won’t repeat it, it’s simple01:12:27
without investing in this sector you and01:12:30
you end up becoming an outsider and01:12:32
you have to buy these technologies01:12:35
we actually understand this very well and so01:12:39
program adopted by the government01:12:41
she just seems to me in this part01:12:45
is so quite versatile01:12:47
Let me just remind you that the program parameters01:12:50
defined as01:12:52
well, like the maximum amount of funds01:12:54
which can be aimed at selection and01:12:59
regeneration will be of interest to investors01:13:02
more, that is, the percentage of localization01:13:05
more01:13:06
unit costs are lower01:13:08
investors will build and introduce into01:13:10
exploitation will be developed01:13:12
more electricity01:13:14
there will be a recession caused by01:13:17
sanctioned things like a reduction01:13:20
investor interest or something else, yes01:13:23
just actually01:13:24
the amount of care will be slightly less01:13:27
so in this part of the program we have01:13:29
long-term up to 35 years we refuse01:13:33
there is no intention and those are the shifts01:13:36
which are now by the government01:13:38
accepted and well, including ours01:13:40
development is just a temporary measure for01:13:43
so that really a little bit01:13:45
this is like a recession01:13:47
again, this wave has passed a little01:13:50
so that first of all for investors01:13:52
there were also some kind of their own01:13:55
in general because we are changing the rules of the game01:13:57
let's not, that's me for sure at least01:14:00
I state the position of the ministry because01:14:04
all all the parameters are quite good01:14:06
relevant that is01:14:08
localization let me remind you, yes that is01:14:10
localization consistency01:14:12
manufacturers first of all the level01:14:14
localization is growing and01:14:17
we do not intend to give it up01:14:19
the second thing is that we have already decided01:14:22
long term as much as possible01:14:25
spend on the development of this sector01:14:27
see no additional support01:14:30
excluding other support measures there01:14:33
stimulating but the total volume of the program01:14:35
determined and then really01:14:38
competition interest01:14:41
but they will probably be yes they will probably be01:14:43
certain problems with reduction as01:14:46
would be of interest to investors but for now we are01:14:50
to tell the exact story does not change01:14:52
intend to, well, it’s a plus in the program01:14:56
the trend that we01:14:58
in principle now even how to say01:15:01
We are starting to implement it in other sectors as well01:15:04
This is a trend towards maximum increase01:15:07
production volume in order to01:15:10
It was not enough to localize and need to build01:15:15
really so that revenue depends on01:15:17
more electricity generation01:15:19
volume than what it was on the first01:15:22
program and let me remind you what we have now01:15:24
The second program is valid until01:15:27
35 24 thirty-fifth year in the first01:15:30
programs have been tested and launched01:15:32
production as appeared already01:15:34
competitors01:15:36
some of the representatives in this room01:15:39
so we'll talk about how they do it for themselves01:15:42
sees this in the second program already01:15:45
to say development in full abel well01:15:48
plus it is clear that we are going to01:15:51
the widest possible field including01:15:56
We hope that this year they will accept01:15:58
law on green so-called greens01:16:00
certificate and Lenin carbon01:16:02
certificate that will be given01:16:05
possibility in addition to those support measures01:16:07
which already exists to give some01:16:10
voluntary demand yes that is01:16:13
stimulate01:16:15
possibility of purchasing electricity01:16:17
from green producers and this01:16:20
accordingly gives additional01:16:21
revenue additional profit which01:16:23
will of course be aimed at01:16:25
increase in volume therefore moreover01:16:27
what companies do themselves is also visible01:16:31
this trend remains and here I am with01:16:33
Alexey agrees that there is no need to think that01:16:36
This is how today's situation looks like01:16:39
sudden surge she somehow strongly01:16:41
will change the direction of development which01:16:44
now it’s unlikely to change so01:16:47
of course you need to preserve your own01:16:49
competitive advantages after all01:16:52
develop all sectors and keep a hand on01:16:54
keep a pulse on your own production01:16:57
and probably the last thing I would like01:16:59
It should also be noted that again in the second01:17:01
program we, including01:17:04
demanded in this regard from01:17:07
these are the requirements that now exist with01:17:10
from the point of view of product exports, that is01:17:12
not only are the products here01:17:14
produced in order to obtain01:17:16
guaranteed payment as they say01:17:19
you also need to supply in addition to production01:17:21
electricity production localization01:17:24
the deadline for the obligations taken is necessary01:17:27
deliver a certain volume of products01:17:28
for export01:17:30
confirming this with relevant01:17:32
documents therefore in this regard it is01:17:34
gives some reference to what our01:17:37
It’s as if I didn’t just find the industry01:17:41
reproduces what happened before01:17:43
makes new promising01:17:45
in-demand equipment that01:17:48
are really in demand01:17:49
foreign markets and this gives but some01:17:52
such so to speak drive for01:17:54
manufacturers so that they do not lower01:17:57
hands and constantly improved it01:18:00
just like that in our opinion too01:18:03
a certain level that is necessary01:18:05
keep therefore01:18:07
to summarize, I will say that it seems to us that01:18:10
just the system smells of support measures01:18:14
which is now she is just01:18:17
the good thing is that it is not very hard on01:18:19
will take advantage of the opportunity01:18:23
investor great maybe new01:18:26
they will come too, too, so to speak01:18:28
we exclude this thank you thank you very much01:18:31
I like01:18:32
the goal is not to engage in import substitution01:18:35
and export by substitution let’s say that’s the point01:18:38
and increasing the brim of his cap for this01:18:42
point of view on this matter01:18:48
I'll be there now01:18:50
commercial such a break01:18:54
Many people on the committee know about energy01:18:58
I mean just the topic of distributed and01:19:01
renewable energy and generation01:19:03
there accordingly01:19:05
On the 28th we finally gather and after01:19:09
long pause to discuss prospects01:19:11
further development01:19:13
I'm in our country, here I am for everyone01:19:17
I invite you to join this01:19:19
discussion actively or passively01:19:23
accordingly we01:19:26
we conduct through alternative channels including01:19:29
including active telegram channels01:19:31
scientific discussion with ARVI with some01:19:34
other associations01:19:36
comrades regarding the results so to speak01:19:40
the first DPM program and according to what is needed01:19:44
configure to avoid those errors01:19:46
which we allowed thanks to this01:19:49
program yes I can agree with01:19:52
Alexey raw who says that we have01:19:57
was created thanks to the first program01:19:59
DPM support in some scientific01:20:03
production cluster which01:20:06
built but today from this01:20:08
cluster unfortunately I will talk01:20:11
unpleasant things probably for many01:20:13
there is little left because the cluster01:20:16
was built off topic but I didn't01:20:18
Alexey interrupted these means for the wrong reasons01:20:21
strategic principles that are needed01:20:24
put in any of this kind01:20:27
powerful support for01:20:30
than I'm talking about what's left on the market01:20:35
probably in the wind there is one company represented by01:20:38
waste and on01:20:41
in the sun market one company represented by frail01:20:44
is this good or bad?01:20:47
bad because we thanks01:20:51
received market support01:20:53
artificial monopolies but in each01:20:56
sector we have one company left01:20:58
this is what we were aiming for01:21:00
produce consumer probably no I01:21:04
I think that such a position should not01:21:06
arrange and helal and waste because01:21:10
Well, first of all, there is01:21:11
antitrust law I don't01:21:13
I know they took permission from there01:21:16
antimonopoly authority on01:21:18
market ownership to market monopolization01:21:21
I'll probably have to ask this question too01:21:24
somehow discuss now what01:21:28
concerns the future photo pause which01:21:31
us appeared and which the Ministry of Energy01:21:33
announced and already accepted01:21:35
appropriate migration solution01:21:37
first until the end of this year then was01:21:41
I think it will be postponed until May next year.01:21:44
in total, transfer to the second selection01:21:49
twenty third now may 23 to 2001:21:53
which 7 before or on 2001:21:59
but yes they are somewhat separated there01:22:02
sunny shop windows but nevertheless for a year01:22:07
there will be more engines offered than01:22:10
for a year, I understand that now he01:22:14
this is the shift to which year she is01:22:16
some kind of compromise between01:22:19
producers, investors and01:22:21
regulator because we assume that01:22:24
it will be possible to restart during this time but01:22:27
if for some reason it fails01:22:30
then I think it will01:22:32
further shifts to the right with this01:22:35
decoction now the question is what to do about those01:22:38
selection that has already occurred and which01:22:41
it is not clear how they will be carried out01:22:43
at least it’s completely unclear to me01:22:45
took us into shape01:22:48
big huge briefcase in my opinion 1 and 401:22:51
downwind at the last selection 1 dpm fairy 201:22:57
at a price that is absolutely competitive01:23:00
was declared parity and even lower01:23:03
than parity with traditional sources01:23:07
generation with gas, with coal and others01:23:11
now I'm reading and hearing about some01:23:15
interesting know-how from ORVI, let's01:23:19
about indexing one-time at 28 percent01:23:21
by industrial by coefficient legal01:23:25
inflation these competitions if I'm correct01:23:28
I understand where this will lead, this is about and01:23:31
will lead to an increase in the cost of the general program01:23:33
the support they talked about there01:23:35
parameters 360 billion will lead to01:23:39
increase in price by 44 billion market advice gives01:23:43
these numbers are respectively these 4401:23:46
billion which together with interest on01:23:49
service outgrow 60 something01:23:51
billions and either need to be changed at the end01:23:54
support program parameters or01:23:57
reduce01:23:59
the support parameters themselves and set before01:24:02
she has the wrong indicators01:24:04
so what I want to say is that01:24:07
can be taken to the point of absurdity and fulfilled01:24:10
program that lasts 10 years01:24:14
25-30 fifth year with completion01:24:18
50 years in one year and the entire program01:24:22
pull now thinking about what but to the left01:24:25
before thinking if they have time to sort it out then01:24:29
you tell me Irina I’m already sorting it out but I01:24:33
please be specific, I'm trying to go here01:24:37
now regarding what I was talking about01:24:40
Andrey Maximov I do not agree with the fact that01:24:43
program especially in today's01:24:45
conditions she01:24:48
kind of optimistic because I01:24:50
the parameters are completely unclear01:24:53
fulfill01:24:55
in today's conditions this is a parameter01:24:57
export but to whom will we export01:25:00
wind but let's be honest01:25:03
further localization program conditions01:25:07
localization but we all went downwind01:25:10
who was localized weight tass left there01:25:14
accordingly, the localization of the blades at01:25:17
us left with Vesta itself localization01:25:22
completely wind installation she is also there with01:25:26
taking into account the fact that01:25:28
relies on scientific and technical01:25:30
achievements01:25:32
I don’t belong to us, I’m also leaving01:25:35
I'll finish here, as I understand it01:25:37
I get so much treatment here, but also01:25:41
I would like to say about the same agenda in01:25:44
in general01:25:45
it looks like we are being thrown out of01:25:49
general agenda regarding01:25:52
systems of hydrocarbon units of carbon01:25:56
units, I think that of course everyone01:26:00
crisis is opportunity, we already understand01:26:03
plus or minus the perimeter of the countries we have01:26:06
former partners and countries we have01:26:09
current partners who have shown their01:26:12
consistency of reliability01:26:13
commitment to non-political01:26:16
more towards economic relations and01:26:18
Therefore, I encourage participants to think about01:26:21
to make the system inside and01:26:25
the perimeter of those countries that, in general,01:26:28
supports us and is also concerned about this01:26:32
the agenda is primarily such01:26:34
countries like china01:26:35
India Brazil could be a country01:26:40
Middle East may be different01:26:43
countries and already in America and so on therefore01:26:46
we can have an alternative system01:26:49
create and then integrate01:26:54
I don’t believe in the pan-European system01:26:56
that they will let us in on their own01:26:59
the system that everyone is talking about01:27:01
market into integration separately as01:27:04
Russian system we won't come in thank you01:27:10
discussion speech01:27:12
[applause]01:27:14
thank you very much I can’t and now I’m out01:27:17
don't react brilliant performance01:27:20
you are some kind of actors01:27:23
this is all what we discussed ourselves01:27:25
you give in and still say something01:27:27
less colorful allegories because01:27:30
I think this is immediately memorable01:27:33
the fact that now due to the fact that there is only one01:27:35
the company left the weight of us yes I think we have01:27:40
sector there is nothing left but this01:27:42
sloppy for01:27:44
We all have dozens of requirements01:27:46
companies including those you01:27:49
mentioned which in Cumbria times cancellation01:27:52
but besides Rusatom they also work there01:27:54
dozens of companies that read deliveries01:27:56
components for renewable01:27:59
energy drinks I won’t list them01:28:00
you can open resolution 719 there01:28:02
watch this first second by01:28:05
solar energy but I don't worry01:28:07
colleagues especially assistant but I think01:28:09
I also cut Oleg a little because01:28:11
we communicate every day colleagues nowhere01:28:12
not gone they are present01:28:15
work and no statements because01:28:18
turn out to be albums01:28:21
this is the second third what is most important01:28:25
Now we've talked about01:28:27
need to support renewable01:28:30
power engineers immediately forgot about what01:28:31
the last few years the cost01:28:33
electrical energy from Vera in Russia01:28:35
decreased in Russia as well as in the world01:28:37
decreased by 85 percent last year01:28:40
during the selection of our projects the price fell01:28:44
approximately 3 times rad limit levels01:28:47
due to which the volume is overestimated01:28:50
said01:28:51
original accordingly now01:28:54
electrical energy from a vase of prayers01:28:57
manual energies in particular are the most visible01:28:58
available cheapest on our market01:29:00
this range is 2 to 5 rubles went01:29:04
there's 4 to01:29:08
6 rubles accordingly we are now01:29:11
We’re not talking about additional support01:29:12
that we need a sector in which these01:29:14
projects will be selected unfortunately ours01:29:17
the market looks like no project01:29:20
gas not coal not hydra not wind01:29:23
cannot be realized beyond what01:29:26
whatever support mechanisms there are01:29:28
the same mechanisms for supporting the DPM they01:29:31
will be such reinforced concrete01:29:34
instruments with which they will go and in01:29:37
including Indian companies about which01:29:39
fiddled around and spoke Chinese only in01:29:42
case if the essence is to the essence of these01:29:46
agreements will not be questioned01:29:48
because the investor again I say no01:29:50
it is important from which country he goes only to01:29:52
the tool that guaranteed a01:29:54
if we talk about what01:29:56
this DPM is from a worthless company, let us01:29:59
we'll take it away from him, we'll give it back to the mountain, but we01:30:01
we won't achieve anything good here yet01:30:04
since there was additional indexing01:30:06
projects yes indeed there is a request but01:30:08
it is necessary in order not to01:30:10
bankrupt those projects that are now01:30:12
chosen believe me01:30:14
and we will throw these three gigawatts of volume01:30:16
they will never take it back to the market01:30:18
2 in life01:30:21
and then up to 5 rubles they ship01:30:23
the limit value of which01:30:25
there are orders and we will see the meaning and01:30:27
megawatt there is three times less than01:30:29
now an additional 20 percent01:30:32
which ask for indexing based on01:30:34
real growth indicators, they are strongly01:30:37
they really won't ruin the weather01:30:39
will allow companies to actively develop and01:30:41
here I am and investors from China and and01:30:43
he will see what we really have01:30:45
we will cut out an adequate form of an adequate dream01:30:48
adequate amount of cabin I know that you01:30:50
ready to postpone the heated discussion too01:30:53
direct or I suggest now just01:30:56
obey01:30:57
repeaters of the financial sector can be found in01:31:00
no vocabulary after you are good01:31:03
next performance because01:31:05
next I would like to ask a question01:31:08
Natalia 3 who sees first01:31:10
Vice President of Gazprombank Natalya01:31:13
greetings, it's a pity that you're not01:31:15
were able to join our discussion01:31:17
in person as you hear many speakers01:31:21
talk about importance01:31:23
investment community in implementation01:31:26
one or another industry development scenario01:31:29
renewable energy from your point01:31:31
view of what type of project01:31:34
now the most attractive and01:31:37
what is the development potential including01:31:40
organic carbon01:31:42
certificates are even possible01:31:44
international01:31:46
Irina thank you very much for you01:31:50
8-bit is very pale and I don't want it01:31:54
return01:31:56
perry clips01:31:58
economically it is very important that not01:32:02
Valery Abramkin Sandra Geekvape01:32:04
statement that Russia01:32:07
remains committed to the sea will be out of it01:32:12
agreement and01:32:14
on developing a downward carbon economy he01:32:18
bright enough time it goes on01:32:20
very good signal for01:32:23
our economies and for investors and volume01:32:25
that for the banks on the grid I really01:32:27
it is very important that we are with the leader in the field01:32:32
green sales are rare, including01:32:34
renewable01:32:35
energy in particular01:32:38
more than 7001:32:40
percent of all projects updated01:32:44
energy workers who are funded to ask01:32:47
help you have a bank there and these are different01:32:50
including in the region01:32:52
remove plenty of sunny days or01:32:55
apply01:32:56
that these projects are kept in the portfolio01:33:00
bank and here it’s like a position01:33:03
Ministry of Energy continued support01:33:05
vpn store programs are not completely01:33:09
Abison to continue in this direction01:33:11
one of their directions is also kaspite01:33:14
It seems to me that the law for investment is01:33:16
TV series Balka is caffeine justified01:33:18
to help with energy saving here's01:33:21
estimated choice01:33:23
energy gives01:33:26
more than 3 fabricante in total volume01:33:30
emissions of the Russian Federation and at the same time01:33:34
approximately half of these emissions may01:33:37
be reduced due to just the implementation01:33:40
projects to increase on schedule01:33:42
efficiency and what else is important what besides01:33:45
environmental impact these projects can01:33:48
let's give you economic benefit01:33:51
we also see and in particular also01:33:52
We support projects to improve01:33:55
efficiency01:33:57
financial01:34:02
project01:34:07
sorry, something happened at our waist01:34:10
I think the sound quality is better now01:34:13
repeat please replace01:34:16
which is very important, you can see the prospects01:34:19
project to improve efficiency01:34:22
this is not worth it not only from the point of view01:34:24
promotion01:34:25
ecological niche in warehouses01:34:28
reducing the carbon footprint is not from the point01:34:30
in terms of economic efficiency, these01:34:32
projects pays off buy short01:34:35
time period and in the bank's portfolio01:34:37
Quite a lot of projects are aimed at01:34:39
times to increase efficiency then to01:34:42
projects which is used for01:34:43
various financial instruments01:34:45
the widest range of such01:34:47
instruments is01:34:49
project financing01:34:50
public-private partnership01:34:52
states01:34:54
private projects of this concession and sip01:34:57
very system mechanism and01:35:00
we have a large volume of project and projects01:35:03
in the field of leasing as01:35:06
for individuals and organizations01:35:08
in particular01:35:10
last year and this year we are actively01:35:12
we are launching a project and about Lisa01:35:14
energy saving equipment for01:35:16
social educational institutions01:35:18
ppm we see economic and01:35:21
environmental effect01:35:22
I grant it will also continue01:35:26
interesting for mysticism, including01:35:28
bank support these projects are about the size01:35:32
so this also applies to society01:35:35
transport is not only electric buses01:35:37
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just like development for war01:35:46
it's no secret that it's happening now01:35:47
stop music logic and one of01:35:49
the cheapest and most accessible types01:35:51
transport large projects in particular01:35:53
below is St. Petersburg and here are some01:35:56
car leasing project let's include it01:35:59
cars for personal use 301:36:01
for drag and for this linga01:36:04
industrial and it seems to me that these01:36:07
projects will also develop created01:36:09
on the background01:36:11
necessary tasks01:36:13
import substitution project has a large01:36:16
prospects I celebrate Valeria who01:36:19
your speech01:36:22
direction related to development01:36:25
markets of natural units indeed01:36:28
this is very promising for a Russian01:36:30
the book has great potential for01:36:32
creating climate projects and01:36:35
all three types and designs matte01:36:37
bags texture which is called01:36:40
carbon will be a technological wrapper01:36:42
when equipping and creating new units01:36:45
in the field of climate change and projects01:36:48
floor01:36:50
the main thing and we saved carbon dioxide01:36:52
it's no secret that from the point of view01:36:55
climatic features of natural01:36:58
Russia has the majority of resources01:37:00
team from a technology point of view we have been01:37:02
and effectively use the project forced01:37:06
acid gas is new, these are the technologies01:37:09
which the oil and gas sector of the Russian01:37:12
federation home use for others01:37:15
there can be no goals and us to mine01:37:19
prospects yes definitely01:37:21
let's listen to the sex of new units01:37:26
which hours externally in the world to us01:37:29
will definitely need some serious work01:37:32
on market development for any units01:37:34
texts from countries of Asia and Africa Latin01:37:38
day we already see what is there01:37:41
interest in these projects is often a secret that01:37:44
just think about this idea for a month01:37:52
I definitely like the technologies that01:37:55
possess these strange ones will let you come and01:37:58
lead to known carbon01:38:00
neutral will be needed immediately01:38:02
actually buy additional units to01:38:05
quite unique of course we are01:38:08
even01:38:10
organization what it costs to repair01:38:13
8 the road to the established book that we should01:38:16
expand the spectrum01:38:18
indicators and is definitely necessary01:38:20
see the need for integration01:38:22
our registry as it should be01:38:25
on the lip and of course you need help as01:38:28
implementation of Article 6 of the Paris Agreement01:38:32
many nights become completely right01:38:35
there is no need to be a party to this agreement01:38:38
continue01:38:39
direction and just representatives01:38:41
state of this mixture allows not01:38:43
we'll find something, we'll take it, we'll get bored01:38:46
We are preparing for cooperation, I want to scare you away01:38:48
I personally live for your right01:38:50
the discussion is of course the organizer01:38:55
I will continue to wear01:38:58
thanks to you Natalia01:39:01
a small question about the development of this topic01:39:03
which was affected by previous01:39:05
speakers talk about voluntary01:39:07
I can handle it myself and the green carbon01:39:10
unit01:39:12
selection you visited among the number let's say01:39:15
main buyers01:39:16
that is, who who might be on that side01:39:19
which you can divide the drawn ones01:39:22
products01:39:24
we certainly01:39:29
Russian companies to act01:39:34
a year ago01:39:38
5301:39:44
how to prey order birds01:39:51
touches and we died01:39:54
to leave01:40:01
hippolit quilt01:40:05
equipment01:40:13
And did not increase page 1 season 101:40:25
if I don't want to01:40:34
behind which power over one01:40:36
returning to the participants who01:40:40
however, today in the hall we heard a point01:40:43
regulator's view01:40:46
think tanks representatives01:40:49
investment financial community01:40:50
finally the time has come to listen01:40:53
directly to the hump photo 1 I would like01:40:56
address these questions and all sorts of01:40:59
stepmother of the deputy general01:41:01
Director of Project Engineering01:41:03
sustainable development international01:41:05
cooperation01:41:06
since hetero and Oleg have a lot of jokes01:41:09
Deputy General Director01:41:11
Director of Business Generation Development01:41:14
international activities of the company I am not01:41:16
length anarchy01:41:18
from your point of view, how have they changed?01:41:21
strategic priorities of this industry01:41:24
after the events of February 24 and01:41:28
where do you see the most relevant01:41:32
today's growth point01:41:37
question01:41:47
With01:41:50
or miracles01:41:52
herself01:41:54
I can actually say01:42:01
federation on its own01:42:04
If01:42:07
A01:42:09
A01:42:14
difficult01:42:15
meaningful way01:42:17
energy transition is a historical fact01:42:20
you can use this disc as much as you want01:42:23
do and argue that's what I do now01:42:25
I will give an example of the second postulate that I01:42:27
I would like to convey to all participants01:42:29
our discussion of the world community in01:42:32
including the masses of the Russian Federation01:42:34
enough energy average01:42:36
sovereignty in order to become01:42:38
global growth driver and point01:42:41
strategic support in the new world01:42:43
energy structure it really is01:42:46
so of course we have our own01:42:49
we are the sovereign path of development01:42:52
we are an important element in the world's01:42:55
with Umerov’s system on the needle, what01:42:58
I want to give you as an example01:43:01
everyone knows perfectly well the plan in the forehead which01:43:04
developed01:43:05
helped the development not only of the Soviet01:43:08
union stabilization01:43:10
tenths01:43:12
The 70s is a great example01:43:15
the right approach to everyone's happiness01:43:17
this balance was the Soviet nuclear01:43:20
the project and later was the so-called01:43:22
nuclear renaissance which01:43:25
appeared unknowingly01:43:29
the beginning of the big dive of translation and01:43:33
implementation of programs to the top here we have01:43:36
there are interesting examples and01:43:39
throat and I there are no ethics these are projects01:43:43
global world projects trend even01:43:45
said so which were implemented on01:43:48
actually a very technical platform01:43:51
what do you mean we have enough01:43:53
safety potential01:43:56
they are promising to do01:43:58
it is once again clear that we are now01:44:01
we find other real ones I repeat that01:44:04
we are reliable01:44:06
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an important element in the world chain and01:44:11
carbonation is very important to observe here01:44:14
interest balance of interests yes here is the metro01:44:16
we merge balances from all weapons into01:44:18
economy of the country named after the economy of the world01:44:20
especially the so-called low carbon01:44:22
the world's economy must always have01:44:26
priority otherwise we will fall down with you like this01:44:28
called the carbon abyss because everything01:44:32
elements of introducing political and01:44:35
economic wars hidden economic01:44:38
wars that are already passable through the vein01:44:40
we are well aware of, here are a few01:44:44
Stanford originally said this01:44:46
very important01:44:48
so that we understand what he is talking about01:44:51
look at the statistics, it's a stubborn thing01:44:53
so I'll tell you01:44:56
every million kilowatt-hours that01:44:59
produced in the Russian Federation at01:45:01
hydroelectric power plants save money01:45:05
order01:45:08
600 60 tons of coal01:45:12
or01:45:14
35901:45:16
allows you to start or save mission01:45:19
co2 emissions01:45:21
665 thousand tons of co2 is approximately01:45:25
35001:45:27
thousand tons of coal tons of coal and two hundred01:45:31
sixty eight thousand cubic meters01:45:32
natural gas just for a second01:45:36
imagine that01:45:37
all sorts of 3rd generation in Russian01:45:40
federation today becomes it will be01:45:42
mean that the increase in carbon dioxide emissions01:45:44
gas in the country01:45:46
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will be about01:45:50
38 percent were 142 million then01:45:54
Hydra energy contribution01:45:56
or renewable energy where01:45:59
carbonation now let's see what01:46:00
happening in the world01:46:02
our01:46:04
not even how to say about our countries01:46:07
partners01:46:08
who spoke very actively about antiquity01:46:12
transfer back to coal01:46:14
generation, well it just so happens that the world01:46:17
is again on the next turn and01:46:21
lack of technological development in our country01:46:25
today in the country I have not heard01:46:27
to some coal stations01:46:29
reactivated01:46:31
using our company as an example, everything01:46:33
very active and01:46:34
publicly we will allow the entire Far East01:46:37
which we have is left with this01:46:39
generation we transfer gas there is a problem01:46:42
strongly with the presence of this gas with01:46:44
supplies of this gas are therefore twenty01:46:46
in the eighth year we are solving these problems01:46:48
together with Gazprom together with01:46:51
private partners here is the most01:46:53
A striking example is the conversion for gas01:46:56
now that's what it concerns01:46:59
sun meter01:47:01
and from the first one I talked about here01:47:03
it is very important to understand what the child's name is01:47:05
Lena's neutrality did not drive us into the water01:47:08
undoubtedly01:47:10
generation like the sun the wind on on01:47:13
efficiency electrochemical01:47:15
drives are of course an important task, but01:47:19
they are usually important to realize01:47:20
be implemented in those areas where there is01:47:23
the needs of these types of electricity01:47:25
these in these this generation and these01:47:30
provision for the industrialization of the country01:47:32
this01:47:34
andextremely01:47:35
are inefficient in terms of scale01:47:37
I fully support the state01:47:39
colleagues to the fact that the market is the market it01:47:42
must regulate itself and01:47:44
german growth up to some stage01:47:47
development of society is so know01:47:50
indicator of civilization days01:47:52
maturity, but here you also need to be extremely01:47:55
neat and balanced, which we don’t need01:47:58
enough for me it seems to us as always01:48:01
lacking here is a proverb while we have thunder01:48:03
the guy won't burst out, he won't cross himself, here we go01:48:06
what we lacked was the determination01:48:08
enough now I think it's not enough01:48:10
know and such an investment01:48:12
courage that we ask for this01:48:14
you will suggest mistrust to the state01:48:17
we ask for support the simplest need01:48:19
long-term loans for stimulation01:48:22
energy engineering development01:48:25
conditions and clear, unchanging rules of the game01:48:27
to tariff education gur opponents01:48:30
to01:48:32
during the period of DPM projects they laughed01:48:35
the rule but today in reality it's all01:48:37
there is, so let's be a little bolder01:48:40
maybe you even know let us be01:48:42
a little unfinished with01:48:45
not the balance of such a system but these things01:48:48
are01:48:49
necessary elements01:48:52
civilized transition because01:48:55
energy efficiency for a long time and here and but01:48:58
knowledge intensity is completely different from what we are01:49:01
colleagues Lily behind you today will give us01:49:03
opportunity and 10 years on technology01:49:05
calmly export and here to colleagues01:49:09
on order a little from the authorities too01:49:11
It's probably hard to read now01:49:15
say well yes we could supply01:49:16
our wind and why ex01:49:19
contrast, I can say that01:49:22
Our group today is in 14 countries01:49:25
permanent contracts for the export of generic drugs01:49:28
was the technology of both Latin America and01:49:31
East Asia is not the East but information01:49:33
absolutely open myself to everyone01:49:35
I'll tell you this is also in demand01:49:38
a sought-after product, which means01:49:41
that ours01:49:42
many from a scientific point of view01:49:43
practical application01:49:44
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competitive and in demand01:49:48
Thank you01:49:49
big01:49:52
and the answer01:49:55
thank you very much I'm the same as you01:49:59
about the whole city01:50:00
I01:50:02
not what did Sergei say?01:50:04
In fact01:50:06
we change our plans01:50:09
you know the company01:50:11
hour01:50:12
Russia's lower classes play a larger role01:50:17
drained vertical01:50:19
release01:50:21
queue modules01:50:24
top 5 models in the world01:50:27
We01:50:30
completion of construction is beyond launch01:50:32
pull off01:50:33
for us this concern is about export01:50:39
already now before01:50:41
There is01:50:42
landing in russia is permissible company01:50:44
hero and 30 percent of its presence01:50:47
and the strange ones where they were01:50:49
contacts01:50:52
they keep the same company not01:50:54
rowed for01:50:56
draw the Stalingrad region01:50:58
I'm also standing01:51:01
power beyond illiterate01:51:04
the Russian market cannot be01:51:07
most likely it won't01:51:09
most likely 1 translation will be less01:51:11
This01:51:13
for someone until January01:51:15
market segments01:51:16
we understand that at least 50 percent01:51:20
product exported01:51:22
project and foreign ones of course not01:51:25
all European countries are faster but01:51:29
no less now through and through01:51:33
guests01:51:34
our neighbors in Central Asia are first and foremost01:51:39
southeast and africa01:51:42
and mushrooms suede project 1 between01:51:45
republics 11501:51:47
A01:51:48
latin america threesome01:51:50
That's why01:51:53
answer your question01:51:55
we don't collapse01:51:57
no see I accept 101:52:02
How01:52:03
meet the factory like this01:52:04
export of projects in addition01:52:09
the events that happened they01:52:11
We have 8 houses01:52:13
several of you could on European01:52:15
countries now have a large-scale program01:52:18
returns a return to production player01:52:21
that is, everything that was01:52:23
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sunny day01:52:26
production01:52:27
mother's family01:52:29
richie xmesh01:52:33
batteries now inscription01:52:35
queen those subsidies that visit the union01:52:37
announced01:52:39
this year literally in March Vova01:52:42
just right for it to be straight01:52:43
production, this is globalization01:52:47
art is not01:52:49
situations when01:52:51
All equipment is made in China01:52:52
all consumption is there in the west01:52:55
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change and01:52:59
this is an industrial implementation01:53:02
tropical countries of America01:53:04
is happening literally before our eyes01:53:05
now that's why01:53:07
then the localization program that was01:53:11
she was brought up perceived then01:53:14
more global which was perceived as01:53:18
the solution is correct01:53:19
it is not right01:53:21
ok now everything is fine now01:53:23
everywhere we take localizations I will be there01:53:26
the country now doesn't make me feel01:53:28
cut down the disgrace01:53:32
Africa, even southern Africa, all countries are there01:53:36
significant market policies are not all01:53:38
encourage localization and no one01:53:40
says it's the key01:53:42
no rules now I understand everything01:53:44
ownership of it01:53:46
these are a little different01:53:48
it's just gasoline and necessity01:53:52
teaches the terms of this01:53:54
we believe that the rate that was01:53:55
initially01:53:57
correct01:53:59
Vova it's sunny we see people like that01:54:00
significantly late01:54:03
now lose technology01:54:10
we produce streaming01:54:12
starting with these eyes01:54:16
Themselves sunny stance01:54:18
sun tracking system01:54:22
we have it all01:54:23
directly in the plans which01:54:28
Thanks a lot01:54:29
you are optimistic01:54:31
Thanks a lot01:54:33
actually my tactical monument01:54:36
active discussion01:54:39
excuse me whose words of things in my hands are falling01:54:42
strategy analysis01:54:44
otherwise I’m dreaming of a ruble cultist complex01:54:47
dangers of such a name Pupkin01:54:50
comment on your impressions01:54:53
the discussion that took place may01:54:57
which01:54:59
follow your point of view01:55:01
the most important01:55:02
and development accelerated01:55:05
and the consequences01:55:07
we have chicken01:55:11
good afternoon dear colleagues, part of these01:55:13
discussions Irina thank you I waited I01:55:17
I'll be brief, yes I present01:55:19
classical01:55:21
industry01:55:23
r range of oil and gas01:55:25
our oil and gas competence center01:55:28
industry in fact we are basically in01:55:31
the green agenda was included only enough01:55:34
at the end of the past01:55:36
created a joint project with Russian prome01:55:39
the center of the climate center is right at01:55:42
crest and wave remember last year01:55:45
climatic events themselves took place in November01:55:48
dominated I want to say in a thesis here01:55:51
here literally as for the title01:55:53
our session green economy and more01:55:56
one word reboot that is, we are up to01:55:59
the beginning of famous events01:56:02
existed as if within the framework01:56:04
climate trip there was01:56:07
all economic development is determined01:56:10
logical development so on this01:56:13
here is international kvass international01:56:16
climate agenda its goals dictated01:56:18
us our own speed and direction01:56:20
development thank God now we have01:56:23
opportunity to look around here in01:56:25
deal with this situation on your own01:56:28
development of our own economy01:56:30
national economy and01:56:33
there are things that in general01:56:35
green theme is not about green01:56:38
certificates but she's talking about01:56:42
environment and about our01:56:43
life activity you recently01:56:45
returned from resin and01:56:48
looked at the social situation in01:56:50
in general01:56:51
what's going on there our01:56:53
the main ones, so to speak, extractive01:56:56
resource in the region you know the problems very much01:56:59
a lot of this and the fire has now started dry01:57:02
thunderstorms01:57:03
this deteriorates the essence of the condition01:57:07
Ideology is first and foremost an enterprise01:57:10
so these things are probably them01:57:12
much more important than01:57:14
carbon footprint calculation and 5 here01:57:18
attempts so it will fit in01:57:20
international agenda and01:57:22
correspond to something imposed on us01:57:24
three is first second01:57:26
after all, global warming no one01:57:30
canceled it that we live in conditions01:57:32
constantly changing01:57:35
environmental climate is a fact we are01:57:38
we see for ourselves, in fact, about those01:57:41
months and years that we live with01:57:44
you have completely different conditions therefore01:57:47
probably here01:57:48
the thesis sounded very correct01:57:51
Russian Federation has enough certificates01:57:54
balanced in01:57:55
it depends01:57:57
practical resources we have families01:57:59
all opportunities to develop green01:58:01
energy but within01:58:05
regions takes into account the interests taking into account those01:58:08
peculiarities01:58:09
climate pen reading reference01:58:12
farming activities and of course01:58:15
traditional energy or01:58:17
with hydrogen energy01:58:19
it's difficult now01:58:21
put this situation in which she01:58:23
I was there a year ago01:58:26
I remember that hmao01:58:29
literally in May 202101:58:31
there was an event the day before01:58:35
I received such a statement, here is the general 201:58:39
Antonio Butera tent what01:58:42
investment it was said in different01:58:44
platforms for the arts of the Secretary General01:58:47
un sounded so good enough01:58:49
impressive traditional investment01:58:52
energy sources are primarily oil and01:58:54
gas needs to be reset urgently01:58:58
start actively investing in01:59:00
renewable projects, well, accordingly01:59:03
this is the topic it is replicated on the axis01:59:07
was present prevailed in fact01:59:10
in all sectors of the economy your people01:59:13
of course the investor and the financial sector as01:59:17
enough01:59:18
serious logo represented oil and gas01:59:21
companies really started this01:59:23
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hysterical as essentially an activity01:59:27
on the way out01:59:29
oil and gas exploration projects and01:59:32
production and so on, which is basically now01:59:34
is already having an effect01:59:36
ahead of schedule, taking into account the overall01:59:38
we see the dynamics of demand growth that is not up to01:59:41
investing in these projects leads01:59:43
Now the balance is skewed01:59:45
supply and demand01:59:47
supply will not keep up with demand01:59:49
whatever forecasts01:59:52
betrayed they relied01:59:54
absolutely recognized fact therefore01:59:57
here again returning to the fatherland01:59:59
soil02:00:00
we have the opportunity to continue to develop02:00:02
leave your traditional world in peace02:00:05
mode02:00:06
reach the parameters that are already02:00:08
voiced on different platforms and02:00:10
accordingly, representatives here02:00:12
this government too02:00:14
m parameters I am a member of Starkov02:00:16
I want advice on the pure energy project02:00:18
say we have for the last 4 months02:00:21
own self in the process of realization02:00:24
parameter02:00:25
subject02:00:27
project stages that are nothing02:00:29
changed we are going to absolutely normal02:00:32
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I want to wish everyone the same02:00:35
less fuss and more actually02:00:38
horns thank you thank you very much02:00:42
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soloist microphone for those who wish02:00:46
ask a question if he asks now like02:00:50
training02:00:56
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ask02:01:02
the board is usually gold02:01:05
Polina Syrkina02:01:10
for you to write whatever you want and02:01:15
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we are of course on our side02:01:22
there was a new one02:01:28
goals that02:01:29
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just forgive and 10 out02:01:35
number of chambers gardens and forests carbon02:01:38
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skill 50 this one us two cents and here02:01:51
as far as I know everything hurts very complicated02:01:53
you tell02:01:56
zoom and concert02:02:02
what is going to happen02:02:07
because of course the program is enough02:02:10
modest so that we not only02:02:12
somehow similar to the speed everything is so02:02:16
to one's own from the world, this is how it is02:02:21
they write things now02:02:26
decided02:02:27
I wanted none02:02:33
let me start here, I just need numbers02:02:38
remember a little when we talk about02:02:41
faith and about 2 percent is small and02:02:45
the sun is the wind if you look at the concept02:02:49
And02:02:50
renewable energy which includes02:02:53
We have 52 shares on our balance sheet02:02:57
And02:02:58
so in this part there is no need02:03:01
to think that we won’t drive away someone from someone02:03:05
is it worth the first second in terms of02:03:08
intensification, well, of course we are only02:03:11
I would of course02:03:14
here is the question of the cost load02:03:17
consumers pay for everything this is not02:03:19
from somewhere02:03:20
there is air money giving birth02:03:23
investors lost02:03:25
it will be paid by consumers therefore from02:03:27
the balance that has been found but a new one is possible02:03:31
find the balance point, so to speak, but for02:03:33
This02:03:34
we are coming from two stories mandatory and02:03:38
here's 360 billion02:03:40
35 and voluntarily into voluntary history02:03:44
consumers are already coming those who02:03:48
export-oriented02:03:50
faster others slower02:03:53
we are leading on all fronts to play everything out02:03:55
directions to do compulsory history02:03:59
like with a larger load02:04:02
economy02:04:03
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changes that occur in02:05:15
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the union says that there it is green02:05:53
accepted at the European Commission level02:05:55
certain will help south of the solutions and02:05:58
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sources that we now have for ourselves02:06:18
accept as green it's green02:06:22
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period and therefore how do you of course02:06:28
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we aim for 10 percent there, let's say02:06:51
then the reason for the year is 15 percent to someone02:06:55
year because the energy transition no one02:06:58
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quantity that costs a hundred times less02:09:00
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but what colleagues then seems to you02:09:12
corresponding edging02:09:15
thank you very much dear colleagues02:09:18
our apology to the organizer and in every possible way02:09:20
to signal that we must complete02:09:23
session with great regret I understand02:09:26
that I couldn’t give the opportunity to ask02:09:28
questions to all participants end02:09:32
approach one of them personally wanted again02:09:36
give thanks02:09:37
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explicit places02:09:44
it's broken02:09:45
we are once again welcome to relay in02:09:48
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