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ceremonial passage Angarsk land00:00:47
well, in short Toguchin I can’t comfortably00:00:53
but it doesn’t teach romantically with the00:00:58
skin of a deer here and at the same time it’s still00:01:04
fabulously beautiful don’t guess she’s00:01:08
this one by Reishi snow blue sky and00:01:13
very cheerful a00:01:15
deer that has its own instructions about00:01:19
where to go00:01:21
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generally crosses the00:01:34
far north of Norway00:01:36
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the origin of the name Norway is not00:01:48
entirely clear, although most often learned00:01:51
philologists refer to the ancient00:01:53
Anglo-Saxon words norvig, which00:01:57
means the way to the north00:01:59
among the Scandinavian countries Norway00:02:01
is the northernmost and it would be strange if00:02:04
we ignored this fact by00:02:07
going to the far north of Norway, I00:02:10
believed that it was there, among the snow and00:02:12
ice, that I met real 100%00:02:15
Norwegians and after talking with them I could00:02:18
answer the question of what is00:02:21
Norwegian, but I met not Norwegians at all00:02:24
at least they themselves are00:02:27
poverty00:02:32
[music] let's00:02:39
start cooking dinner this is one of the things00:02:42
we were taught00:02:44
when guests come to you feed them to00:02:46
their fill00:02:47
this is the most important thing in our sham culture00:02:51
yes we think we are sure we think and guests00:02:55
over forget it every time you are00:02:57
invited for a wedding or somewhere else and00:03:00
the only thing we are talking about is if there is00:03:02
enough food for everyone it is very shameful if there is00:03:05
not enough food00:03:06
if there is not enough food before00:03:11
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but they themselves live in Russia and Finland00:03:22
distillations and that’s where we are in00:03:25
Norway and what amazes me here is the00:03:30
preservation of their00:03:32
purely Sami and at the same time00:03:37
absolutely modern play in00:03:40
English and they use modern00:03:43
technology00:03:47
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and hands, you don’t wear such clothes00:03:56
every day, no I don’t wear them every day00:03:59
only and occasionally these are ancient clothes00:04:02
she sews all this herself, but could a Norwegian00:04:05
say just by looking at the bass that you00:04:07
yourself are Norwegians because from my00:04:11
point of view you are indistinguishable from me00:04:14
to your wife because she is much more beautiful00:04:17
and yes she is more beautiful than the Norwegians that’s right00:04:21
your wife is very pretty and your daughter is00:04:25
beautiful and my dog too00:04:28
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in the past, Norway tried to00:04:38
assimilate us, well, they turned00:04:42
us into Norwegians,00:04:43
when all this was over, the00:04:47
Omsk language began to be revived again, the culture itself,00:04:50
many people simply do not know that00:04:53
they belong to themselves or know but hides00:04:56
one's origins, it used to be believed that00:04:59
being oneself is very shameful,00:05:00
the truth is, yes, in my opinion, the situation is changing,00:05:05
many young people, having learned about their roots,00:05:08
try, on the contrary, to emphasize their00:05:13
origins and culture from Omsk, and sometimes00:05:18
there are not just conflicts,00:05:21
but disagreements with the older generation00:05:23
because parents sometimes say00:05:25
why do you want to put on your claws, we00:05:28
hid it for so long, please don’t, and the00:05:31
young people answer them, Sami culture is00:05:33
very important, we want to return it,00:05:37
trying to achieve complete assimilation, the00:05:39
Norwegian authorities themselves at one time00:05:42
banned not only their language, but also everything that they00:05:46
themselves did in particular00:05:48
deuces I would call her folk singing, but00:06:01
when I said that so that the answer would be heard, that’s00:06:03
what me and Caetani singing you can’t00:06:08
just take and sing this yurik must00:06:11
come from your heart you Omsk we00:06:13
say that we cream someone for her this00:06:16
means that it belongs to her00:06:20
perhaps a person or perhaps a deer00:06:24
without a deer the most that00:06:26
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you said that there are different ways00:06:46
to distinguish a good deer from a bad one yes I00:06:49
was talking about males if a deer has the same00:06:52
antlered points the same one does not sag too much00:06:55
and if I like the color of00:06:57
the deer then the way it moves00:07:00
I him I leave it to the tribe for reproduction00:07:05
if the male deer is a bad guy I00:07:08
probably won’t want him to stroke00:07:11
his own kind you castrate him yes I00:07:13
castrate him then I do it the old fashioned way00:07:18
it’s like and like this with teeth maybe mine00:07:22
yes we can also use the same00:07:24
wait you bite off his testicles,00:07:27
finish the plate, then take it with your hand and00:07:32
make a testicle with them like this, they are similar,00:07:35
they are similar inside like sugar, but it must00:07:38
be very painful for you, yes, but that’s what they00:07:41
taught me from the deer, and I didn’t ask how it felt for00:07:44
them, I’m happy that I’m not a male deer00:07:55
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finally, let's go, here's boiled00:08:00
venison meat, yes, but smoked lenin,00:08:04
I would like you to try everything,00:08:08
of course, but if you often don't00:08:10
eat because of laziness, tip of the tongue tip of the tongue to00:08:15
tip of the tongue because if you eat it you00:08:18
will become a person who lies, really00:08:22
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this is also a shade of taste I00:08:33
really like00:08:37
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in each of the Scandinavian countries there is a00:08:49
keyword why and an expression00:08:52
that explains a lot about this00:08:56
people, here is Norway, this word is the film flew, I00:09:01
translate this as living in the free air,00:09:06
this is the desire to live where in in general,00:09:10
life is not really convenient, but00:09:13
look around, this is an extremely film, there is00:09:16
a hall and here there are polar nights when there is no light00:09:20
at all for two months here there is a polar day00:09:24
when the sun does not go to sleep00:09:26
impossible fish why live here they00:09:30
like it00:09:34
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but we love it because there are such open00:09:40
spaces here and you told me that00:09:44
it’s split up for you when it’s winter when there’s no sun00:09:47
Merkel’s blue period and you don’t have00:09:51
depression no I think it’s wrong00:09:54
to call this time a dark period for00:09:56
me this is the most beautiful time it’s the most00:09:59
beautiful color of the whole year you take00:10:02
you climb a mountain and the sky is turquoise00:10:07
pink and the northern lights overhead00:10:11
it’s so beautiful and you’re sitting in the air of the00:10:14
dead merit no no at this time we00:10:16
dress warmly you know here many00:10:20
Norwegians go to the sea and swim00:10:23
swim but oh well the water is 6 degrees they00:10:27
just crazy00:10:28
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one thing you can be sure of Norwegians00:10:35
never go in the same direction or00:10:37
when to me when each of us comes from00:10:39
some small fjord and therefore00:10:41
each of us has our own opinion that is not the same as our00:10:43
neighbor from another fjord00:10:48
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I want to show you one interesting thing,00:10:56
well, I’m driving a Volvo car, it’s the latest00:11:01
model, it’s very good gas to choose00:11:06
the road and it has a lot of modern, so I00:11:11
call it bells and whistles, but for me this is00:11:14
what00:11:15
I really love music and and I love00:11:18
listening to music in the car so the car in the lion is00:11:22
absolutely phenomenal and the audio system00:11:26
means I won’t be unfounded,00:11:29
my phone is in Tula, now I’ll find a00:11:32
recording here and it will go through the00:11:37
audio system of00:11:38
this Volvo car and you listen to00:11:41
what that sound is, asya I’ll find it, well,00:11:46
listen00:11:47
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but for00:12:10
you less this acoustic mode00:12:14
is called a concert hall of God's year00:12:17
when you turn it on, the music sounds00:12:21
as if you are in the famous00:12:23
concert hall geode cleaning this00:12:26
incredible feeling00:12:28
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you can listen to it and you00:12:35
have to be driving for hours careful but of course it's a00:12:39
pleasure00:12:41
incredibly incredible00:12:45
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to know I'm glad that I can show you this00:13:08
part of Norway this fjord is00:13:11
one of the most beautiful places in Norway yes it's00:13:14
very beautiful if you're planning to buy a house00:13:18
over there at the other end00:13:20
there are a lot of small companies and you can buy00:13:24
pretty cheap really Well, of course you00:13:28
will need something that in our time there is almost00:13:30
no peace of mind,00:13:34
yes, yes, many of these farms00:13:37
are located so far away that00:13:40
you can’t get to them by car, living here is not easy00:13:43
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when we are crap in the Norwegian character, it’s00:13:59
hard to put into words what00:14:01
this is characteristic, I am absolutely convinced00:14:04
that this is about00:14:06
fitting yourself into nature, resisting00:14:10
nature and then merging with it, loving and caring00:14:13
for it, eating from it,00:14:15
I think that this shapes a person and00:14:19
here in Norway00:14:21
we are looking for exactly what the Norwegians are like and00:14:25
why they became what they are,00:14:29
businessmen, today I was sitting in a street00:14:32
cafe and there was a little girl there and she00:14:35
asked her mother, do00:14:36
you know this uncle, they just00:14:39
talked to who you are and my mother said no, I don’t00:14:41
know this uncle, this is an unfamiliar uncle,00:14:43
he just had dog approach is like this00:14:45
if in front of you there is00:14:46
a stranger you need to be a little00:14:48
distrustful the approach is formed from00:14:51
an early age but if the stranger has both00:14:53
then it’s probably like I say the frame is00:14:55
what gives you a reason to start00:14:57
communicating it’s very interesting when preparing for the00:15:01
trip I came across the book quite by accident00:15:03
Canadian00:15:05
Zhmudin Agura on the social guide00:15:07
to Norway on the cover of person 4 would run into a00:15:10
joyfully00:15:12
initial angry one, they are00:15:15
no different from each other, and he’s also drunk and has a00:15:18
wide smile on his face, well,00:15:21
I thought, I00:15:23
definitely need to meet the author of this book, and00:15:26
we did00:15:27
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well you tell me what brought you to00:15:32
Norway,00:15:33
I was awarded a scholarship from the Norwegian00:15:35
government to study in graduate school00:15:37
in engineering and I moved00:15:40
to the city of Trondheim in the central part of00:15:42
Norway, but integration turned out to be a little more difficult00:15:44
than I expected when leaving Canada and much more00:15:47
difficult than in the countries where I lived00:15:49
before, this is what a Canadian says, they assured that00:15:52
he moved from a northern country to a northern one,00:15:55
but he is integrating with difficulty, like the wife of a00:15:58
Brazilian oil worker, good offices, and00:16:01
it’s not about the climate, it’s about the Norwegians,00:16:03
they are completely different, so we00:16:11
moved from Brazil00:16:12
about a year ago and brought with us a lot of00:16:15
things. dishes for so many people,00:16:18
these chairs and a table and a table so it00:16:24
turned out to be a Norwegian house with a Brazilian00:16:28
accent, tell me how and according to the correct ones in00:16:31
Norway, well, let’s say it’s difficult, first of00:16:34
all, because of the weather, I would understand you perfectly well,00:16:36
and because of the language, too, of course,00:16:39
of course, and from -for the culture, yes, we Brazilians are00:16:44
more tactile, well, yes, yes, in00:16:48
Norway you need to keep a distance of at00:16:51
least one meter from the distance when I00:16:55
went to work in Brazil, it turned out that I00:16:58
hug everyone there, of course, even men, of00:17:01
course, at first it confused me,00:17:03
but what can I do?00:17:05
I don’t understand something about you, but after a00:17:08
while you realize that there’s nothing wrong with such gestures00:17:11
nothing bad, you know,00:17:14
it’s even nice00:17:18
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here’s an example of how you and I in00:17:21
most countries of the world find friends,00:17:23
strike up a conversation, say, in line at a00:17:26
coffee shop I think you’re a nice person00:17:28
and all that, then we decide to sit at the00:17:31
same table,00:17:32
start an intelligent conversation and maybe over00:17:34
time we’ll decide to do something together00:17:36
in Norway, this doesn’t happen at all, what do00:17:39
we do in Norway, we sign up for a00:17:41
club for some courses in group and00:17:43
then we communicate within the framework of what I00:17:45
call joint activity00:17:48
and this continues for several months00:17:50
before we leave the framework and move on00:17:53
to freer communication.00:18:01
Norwegians love to discuss household things,00:18:04
places where they relax, food,00:18:08
where are you from, what do they eat there and very they don’t00:18:11
like to discuss problems and difficulties in00:18:13
the family or with health, as well as00:18:16
money issues, they prefer to hide and00:18:19
never speak out, the00:18:21
Norwegian has different social circles and00:18:25
these are around and are usually tied to some kind of00:18:28
activity,00:18:29
there is a football club, there is a group of those with00:18:32
whom you are I was a volunteer for example in the Red00:18:34
Cross,00:18:35
parents of children with whom your00:18:37
children communicate, houses in the mountains are also a special circle of00:18:40
friends and these circles do not intersect, and00:18:43
so if you are friends with someone as part of00:18:45
some activity, it00:18:47
will be difficult for you to invite this00:18:49
person to informal receptions. for00:18:52
dinner with someone from another circle and00:18:55
if being a foreigner you don’t00:18:57
understand this, it will be very difficult for you to really get to know00:18:59
Norwegians you have a00:19:02
friend’s lawsuit here, well, women from00:19:05
your environment in English to communicate yes00:19:09
yes I have two of my best friends from00:19:12
Brazil hint got it all I'll go thank you00:19:16
100% Norwegian you00:19:18
will never become00:19:19
100% Norwegian never00:19:21
of course no00:19:28
we probably heard that Norwegians love00:19:31
solitude and maybe it looks like it's all00:19:34
chatter prove that they love00:19:37
solitude here I am showing you00:19:38
evidence you see this this is where00:19:41
skills come andah parents with00:19:46
children00:19:47
pass here here inside the door is00:19:51
locked now he and kendo I do00:19:53
n’t have children with me so they don’t give me a key, but00:19:56
if you get there there are probably wooden00:19:59
benches of00:20:00
some kind on which they lie00:20:04
sleeping and besides there is a stunning00:20:06
perfect view of the city on the bay on dai00:20:10
Norwegian and here they spend00:20:13
time silently enjoying the solitude00:20:18
create00:20:21
in general I'm clearly not Norwegian I went00:20:27
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for example I love walking on my kayak00:20:34
alone on the ocean you know the feeling of00:20:38
loneliness and isolation I love this00:20:40
feeling00:20:41
probably the same like my grandfather and people00:20:44
like Nansen amants00:20:46
and also modern Norwegians follow and00:20:49
for this I think you need to be00:20:52
really stubborn straight ahead to00:20:57
achieve your goal and so this is another00:20:59
feature of the Norwegians - stubbornness probably yes00:21:03
and you also know in our country quite a painter00:21:08
so we like to see how the00:21:10
big world lives travel Norwegian00:21:12
travelers I grew up on the history of00:21:15
kontiki my grandfather carried out expeditions to00:21:17
kontiki and all the other expeditions00:21:21
were not 13 years old when I heard the tour00:21:24
hier dali and kontiki00:21:26
and he immediately became one of of my heroes, I00:21:29
dreamed that someday I would meet00:21:32
him and sail into unknown distances did00:21:34
not happen, but today the journey to00:21:38
Kon-Tiki excites me no less00:21:41
than then 70 years ago, this is the first00:21:47
Kon-Tiki 1 to00:21:52
one of the members of the00:21:54
knot team Harlan founded this museum in00:21:57
1952 I've been working here since I00:22:00
was 1300:22:02
I recently restored the kontiki I00:22:04
had to take the whole fruit apart and00:22:07
put it back together because you00:22:09
know it's suspended from the ceiling00:22:11
as a result some things fell into disrepair00:22:15
but In 2006, I repeated the continue expedition,00:22:21
I was responsible for all the underwater filming00:22:25
[music] it00:22:31
was scary there00:22:34
[music]00:22:36
no, no, no, no, no, because you know,00:22:39
when you are in the open ocean, you can00:22:41
see how the weather is changing and understand00:22:43
that a storm is coming,00:22:45
then it’s already there and you’re already ready for it, you00:22:47
know, in Norway we’ve had a lot of00:22:49
research and many successful expeditions,00:22:52
I think the key to success is that in the beginning00:22:54
everything is meticulously planned00:22:56
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it may seem that everything here is too00:23:12
pragmatic, that the attitude may be00:23:14
more pragmatic than emotional00:23:16
later two years after I moved to00:23:19
Norway, my mother came to00:23:20
visit me, it was mid-July, it was raining, it was00:23:23
only 12 degrees, she looked at00:23:25
everything and asked why you live here,00:23:28
then we went for a walk and she saw00:23:30
girls passing by, turned to00:23:32
me and said and now I understand everything, I00:23:34
haven’t seen so many beautiful women in my life00:23:36
and they are all blond and they are all blondes,00:23:38
I kind of love blondes and who doesn’t00:23:41
love them, yes, yes, I met us, and there are00:23:45
many men here who are married to00:23:48
foreigners, for example, Russian wives,00:23:53
Brazilian Sean and that's why we fall00:23:59
under their charm,00:24:01
they are open, cheerful lungs, it00:24:05
often happens that we are disappointed00:24:10
in Norwegian strong, heroic women,00:24:14
they are not feminine enough, men00:24:18
prefer women to be00:24:20
women00:24:21
and men to be men00:24:25
[music]00:24:28
and you tell us I participated in a very famous00:24:30
talk show in Norway talked about the00:24:33
Norwegian chronology dating to Norwegians00:24:36
to Norwegians talk shows on prime time00:24:38
in many countries of the world it is more00:24:41
romantic usually at the first stage00:24:43
you say hi to the girl then00:24:44
you ask her out on a second00:24:46
date then to dinner and then maybe you00:24:49
will end up in bed with her in Norway for00:24:51
the first time you meet at a bar then in00:24:53
fast forward you are in bed00:24:55
after that you can ask her out00:24:57
then back to bed then00:24:59
you can say hi if you bump into someone00:25:01
not in the hallway and then a second date and00:25:03
only then you invite her to dinner really that’s how it’s00:25:05
accepted, it’s00:25:06
egalitarianism for both men and women they themselves00:25:09
decide how to dispose of their body00:25:12
there are very important words that00:25:16
unfortunately set people’s teeth on edge such a word00:25:19
is, for example, equality and all its00:25:21
derivatives00:25:22
too often politicians of all00:25:26
stripes proclaim equality and equal rights and00:25:29
promise to provide them to00:25:31
all those in need, but more often this is just00:25:34
chatter,00:25:35
this is how things are almost always in all countries00:25:37
but not in Norway00:25:40
in many famous cities the00:25:44
opera publication at risk is especially famous opera00:25:47
Bolshoi Theater metropolitan New York00:25:51
well, this boss opera is completely00:25:56
special not only buildings but it is a symbol it is00:26:00
like these it will seem strange a symbol00:26:05
equality egalitarian with it00:26:10
emphasizing that everything all00:26:13
Norwegians are equal to the roof of the opera, it’s still00:26:18
like the pinnacle of something special, and opera00:26:21
in general, not everyone goes to it or tarna,00:26:24
and not everyone can, but here it’s poorly00:26:28
done so that on the one hand it00:26:29
resembles a guru because on the version00:26:33
they love to go to mountains and resembles something00:26:37
absolutely modern, very precisely00:26:39
made, very well calculated00:26:42
and most importantly accessible, look how many00:26:45
people are walking,00:26:46
maybe the most important thing that00:26:49
Norway is is this feeling, we are all equal,00:26:52
we are all equal and don’t try to prove00:26:57
that you are better than others like00:27:00
this00:27:02
[music]00:27:08
I really like it in Norway until00:27:12
maybe some of the things I say00:27:14
smack of criticism00:27:16
but remember Norway is the best 5 other countries00:27:19
where I lived before in Norway you00:27:21
feel happy with life here everything00:27:23
is nice, everything is well organized the people are calm and00:27:26
polite low crime rate and00:27:29
you have opportunities for prosperity,00:27:31
while listening to the drills, I involuntarily remembered the00:27:35
American proverb, the more you melt,00:27:38
the more painful it is to fall. On July 22, 2011,00:27:43
the myth of general Norwegian prosperity00:27:46
was blown up and shot in the literal00:27:49
sense of the word. On00:27:57
July 22, 2011, at approximately this place, a00:28:02
Volkswagen Crafter car exploded00:28:06
filled with explosives, it was the work of00:28:08
Anders Breivik died here, eight00:28:11
people were injured, about 120 were wounded, and while00:28:15
all this was happening here, Breivik00:28:17
headed to the island where the00:28:19
activists of the youth wing of the Norwegian00:28:22
Workers' Party were there, he shot another 6900:28:26
people, a00:28:27
total of 77 killed for Norway, it was an00:28:32
absolute shock, people asked themselves the question of00:28:35
how this could have happened We are Norwegians, one of00:28:40
us did this, the00:28:51
king cried, the prime minister cried for00:28:55
Norway, it was a great shock00:28:57
because nothing bad ever happens to us,00:29:00
bad things happen to00:29:02
others, not to us,00:29:08
I actually lived on our street, who is00:29:11
Anders Breivik00:29:12
and him wrote me letters from prison after the00:29:16
book was published,00:29:17
yes, it’s understandable and included in the list of the 1000:29:21
best books of the year according to the New York00:29:23
Times. Moral monsters, scum killers are00:29:27
usually classified as marginalized, but since they are00:29:30
marginalized,00:29:31
then there is no need to attach much importance to their00:29:34
actions, however, I named sharp cheese 10000:29:37
his book and Brady Key is one of us,00:29:41
thereby emphasizing that Breivik is quite a00:29:43
Norwegian jumper,00:29:50
this was an attempt to find out what kind of00:29:53
person he was and how this became possible he00:29:56
was one of us decided to attack us on00:29:59
Norway on the political system on our00:30:02
democracy I had to look him up00:30:05
the past to find out why this00:30:07
man found himself outside of our society, I00:30:11
began to delve into his childhood, his mother00:30:14
was a contradictory nature,00:30:17
that is, in one second she hugs him,00:30:21
they slept in an embrace when he was00:30:24
little, and the very next second she00:30:28
tells him I hate you, it would be better if you00:30:31
died. if you had never been born and00:30:33
as one girl said,00:30:35
you know, he always tried to be cool but00:30:38
it was not cool at all, then he is a tiger00:30:42
who is a hip-hopper,00:30:43
then he is something like a neo-Nazi and then a00:30:46
businessman, then suddenly he is with00:30:48
Muslim guys because they the00:30:49
coolest in his area00:30:51
but they completely reject him and he starts00:30:54
playing video games, he plays warlike games and00:30:59
games non-stop 18 hours a day and00:31:03
he has the idea of00:31:05
becoming someone through the power of destruction, he00:31:09
will write in his manifesto this is what he00:31:13
said in court that he was figuring out how many people he00:31:16
needed kill to become famous and of course00:31:20
he blames society, he argues for his00:31:23
action, I supposedly had to do00:31:25
this so that Norway would wake up from hibernation00:31:28
because it is obvious that the00:31:31
Islamization of Europe is happening,00:31:32
and of course someone will say that he did00:31:35
it in response to the00:31:36
current situation, Norway not only00:31:40
accepted there are far fewer refugees than the00:31:42
spices of Denmark,00:31:43
it annually expels about00:31:46
one and a half thousand refuseniks from the country, for which neighbors00:31:50
sometimes call Norwegians adherents of the00:31:52
Ku Klux Klan colleagues, or many people00:31:56
talk about this, you can read on00:31:59
Facebook there are a lot of immigrants, they have00:32:02
good cars and everything else for They are00:32:04
all for free,00:32:06
we have to work all our lives to00:32:08
get the same thing and they just get everything00:32:12
[music]00:32:17
we also see that all these new arrivals,00:32:20
a lot of people from different countries who came00:32:23
here, they consider us very naive00:32:26
because we don’t lock the doors when leaving00:32:28
the house and our gardens are not fenced,00:32:30
you can easily go to these houses in the mountains,00:32:34
some of the houses had to be closed because00:32:36
they are too close to the chassis,00:32:38
migrants come from there, they take everything out of there; the main00:32:41
enemy for Breivik was not the workers’00:32:44
party, which he attacked, but the Muslims, but he did00:32:48
not attack the Muslims, he explains his00:32:51
position so if you have a leak in the bathroom00:32:54
you must first fix the leak and00:32:57
then bail out the water, first you need to00:33:00
fix the leak by hitting the workers'00:33:02
party and then scoop it out and pour out the00:33:05
Muslims, he believed that if he00:33:09
attacked the mosque it would be00:33:11
counterproductive because people would00:33:13
probably sympathize If only Muslims00:33:16
understood and they would have received even more00:33:18
rights, the brevi cam ship lasted from00:33:22
April 16 to June 22, 2012 and was00:33:26
broadcast live in front of00:33:29
television screens, the whole country gathered, the whole country would00:33:31
come, he was found guilty of00:33:35
committing two terrorist attacks and was00:33:37
sentenced to capital punishment. a00:33:40
year of imprisonment in00:33:44
other countries in Russia, for example, people would00:33:47
say, the son of a [ __ ], why00:33:50
after everything he did he is being treated00:33:52
like this, many people would say00:33:55
just get rid of him,00:33:57
but we don’t have the death penalty even for00:33:59
such an exceptional case, but00:34:01
this is would mean that he, in some sense,00:34:03
won because even if he were00:34:06
deprived of his life, he would have won, it would have turned out00:34:08
that he changed society, hardened00:34:11
society and even the support group, that is, the00:34:14
mothers and fathers of00:34:16
these children, before these children, even they00:34:19
say we want that with he was treated00:34:21
like any other prisoner, no better00:34:24
or worse. When I asked Greg to interview me, I00:34:28
received a categorical refusal.00:34:30
Then I asked for permission to film the00:34:32
prison in which he is located and again00:34:35
received a refusal.00:34:36
I was told that he was being moved from00:34:39
prison to prison00:34:40
so that he could not get close to the staff00:34:42
and carry out victories; his place of detention is00:34:46
known to only a few; however,00:34:50
after the verdict was announced, he was00:34:53
placed here in the Hilo prison where00:34:55
we were allowed to film;00:34:59
photographs of a00:35:00
cell00:35:01
specially built for him were published on the prison website; 3-800:35:05
meter rooms and instead of the usual 100:35:07
this was done to compensate for the00:35:09
ban on visiting the brevi cam library00:35:13
and the gym.00:35:16
These are living quarters for 13 prisoners in the00:35:20
morning and until three o’clock they work and at00:35:24
3:00 they come here for lunch or dinner,00:35:27
whatever you want to call it, then they can00:35:31
visit00:35:32
the sports ground to do laundry watch00:35:36
TV play cards they can00:35:39
study in their cells in the00:35:42
cells well, this is a typical, that is, a00:35:47
standard cell a person has a TV00:35:52
washbasin bed chair you have a good00:35:58
window there is a lot of light by the way this is an old00:36:04
building so in the cells there is only a00:36:06
washbasin in the new buildings in the cells and the00:36:09
shower and I'm the toilet00:36:16
this is an der down here in the case it's turned on00:36:20
they can lock their cells when00:36:23
when to drink when it comes out and but of course the00:36:29
prison officers can00:36:31
unlock these doors I once gave an00:36:39
interview to an American reporter, he00:36:42
came here and he asked00:36:43
what you control rest home for00:36:46
criminals bots he was the one who was00:36:49
shocked and then I said listen00:36:52
let's see what the00:36:54
recidivism rate is if you really want to00:36:56
understand what we are doing here and how many00:36:59
people are changing as a result of this00:37:02
maybe this will push you to a new00:37:05
opinion00:37:09
[music]00:37:12
and we We often talk about who you want to see as00:37:16
your new neighbor: will it be a person00:37:19
who spent many years locked up in00:37:22
a cell to which they threw the key00:37:24
away and then released him and00:37:26
allowed him to live next to you, or would you00:37:29
prefer a neighbor00:37:31
who was taught and prepared to be a00:37:33
law-abiding citizen and that means00:37:36
that while a person is serving a sentence, his life00:37:38
should be as similar as possible to life00:37:41
outside prison, and many who did not receive a00:37:47
normal education before they00:37:49
got there00:37:50
leave here with a diploma, most00:37:53
students did not graduate from high school and00:37:56
some elementary school,00:37:58
we even have a few people00:38:02
who study in university on the00:38:06
Internet in prison as such there is no00:38:09
access to the Internet00:38:11
but at school there is it and we always check00:38:15
what sites they visited on the Internet00:38:18
[music]00:38:28
[music]00:38:40
you can now go to the carpentry00:38:43
room00:38:44
where they teach to be carpenters one of the00:38:46
prisoners does not want him filmed the00:38:49
rest don’t mind00:38:58
hello hello hello00:39:01
how do you like this kind of work yes00:39:03
he wants it well interesting when you find out their00:39:14
story you understand that there are very few00:39:17
who consciously decided to become00:39:19
a criminal they just didn’t00:39:21
get their bearings and they are people and I00:39:25
respect them and try to understand them to accept them00:39:31
as good They are definitely00:39:35
good people, I try to explain that the bad00:39:38
deeds they committed are not00:39:41
all that they have this same workshop00:39:48
and what they do here works with metal with00:39:52
all types of materials00:39:54
well they have access to metal I might be00:39:57
able to do it well then what could they00:40:00
if only you wouldn’t have known, it seems we00:40:03
had a serious serious incident about 10 years00:40:06
ago, oh that’s how yes, well, and that’s all,00:40:10
for a long time there has been an idea00:40:13
that, for example, if I’m the director of a prison with00:40:17
all the stars on uniform in uniform,00:40:19
you have to respect me and not you will00:40:22
respect me, but many of those00:40:26
who end up behind bars00:40:28
know almost nothing about what00:40:31
respect is,00:40:33
they must go through this and then they will00:40:36
gradually begin to discover00:40:38
something new in themselves, they will begin to respect themselves as a00:40:42
person and then they will understand yes I I’m a00:40:45
person, I’m a person and not a criminal,00:40:49
changes can only come from within,00:40:51
never from without, but I emphasize that this00:40:55
has nothing to do with a soft00:40:57
attitude towards crime. speeches about00:40:59
teaching prisoners to be responsible for00:41:02
their actions and respect themselves00:41:06
[music]00:41:11
he is 21 years old and the highest the measure of punishment before00:41:15
our judge does not have the opportunity to say whether00:41:18
life is given for life, but we have00:41:22
such a measure of preventive detention,00:41:24
you were in or where most of00:41:26
these people are sitting, theoretically they can00:41:29
sit there until the end of their days00:41:32
because when 10 years expire it seems that’s exactly00:41:36
how long it is necessary to decide whether it is safe00:41:38
for the court to decide to00:41:40
release this man of the pond or give00:41:43
him another sentence, of course, maybe this00:41:47
will be the case of Breivik or you don’t know,00:41:50
well, I don’t know because this should be00:41:53
decided by the judge,00:41:54
well, it’s not my decision so I would I00:41:57
didn’t comment anything you won’t00:41:59
talk about this I would say no00:42:01
comments this building it’s called00:42:05
onyx00:42:06
see yes there are 1415 prisoners they are00:42:11
separately00:42:12
to separately according to our data the Brady00:42:15
K cell is located here in this building but00:42:19
no comments about any shooting in it00:42:22
management prison is out of the question00:42:23
as if there was00:42:25
no Anders Breivik no00:42:29
mention of anything that could arouse00:42:32
his interest complete oblivion it’s probably00:42:37
difficult to think of more terrible00:42:40
punishments it struck me this is where the00:42:44
most dangerous criminals serve their sentences00:42:49
I don’t know if this exists in00:42:52
any another country, but the example of00:42:55
a prison is how everything is set up at home,00:43:00
it is emphasized that we are not taking revenge on you for your00:43:05
behavior, we are not trying to00:43:07
further00:43:08
punish you, humiliate you,00:43:13
on the contrary, we are trying to arouse in you00:43:18
the qualities that are necessary to live in a00:43:21
civilized society, I tell you that he is00:43:24
jumping and the manufacturer is this.00:43:29
if you want, well, for me at least00:43:32
this is the key to understanding the state of00:43:36
society in which Norway is now00:43:41
[music]00:43:47
I was walking along the boulevard admiring this00:43:51
May Day demonstration and suddenly00:43:54
I saw advertising but which00:43:55
completely amazed me, but this is it,00:43:59
but you see for yourself the man is clearly not Norwegian00:44:05
the woman is clearly both Norwegian and their child and there is00:44:09
no need to say anything, the idea is completely00:44:12
clear and for everyone else for me this is00:44:14
a guarantee that Anders Breivik00:44:16
lost to Tomsk love no Norway00:44:20
at least I00:44:24
love no one tried to imitate him00:44:27
there were two small imitators00:44:29
but they were caught before committing the00:44:32
crime the police captured them, they00:44:34
said that they were inspired by Breivik, but00:44:36
maybe he managed to carry out a00:44:38
successful terrorist attack because he planned everything very00:44:41
well; most of the00:44:42
terrorists are lone wolf if they do not00:44:44
belong to some organization, nothing00:44:46
works out, but we can say that00:44:48
Mr. Breivik was in some kind of hey, you led00:44:51
himself in a very Norwegian way, he carefully00:44:52
planned this for many months and00:44:56
maybe that’s why he achieved success00:45:00
[music]00:45:03
you probably know Peer Gynt of course00:45:07
Ibson’s play according to my feelings I have never00:45:13
seen before a more accurate description of the00:45:17
Norwegian mentality00:45:20
inexperienced cabin boys in the great ocean of the world00:45:25
Heinrich Ibsen says about his hero00:45:28
Peer Gunter that he is the most Norwegian of the00:45:31
Norwegians,00:45:32
if you have not read this work, then00:45:35
these are stories about how a person searches for00:45:37
happiness and how, in the process of this search,00:45:40
his ideas about what00:45:43
happiness is changes and maybe the main thing is00:45:46
that he refuses from the dream of00:45:48
wealth from the belief that happiness is in00:45:51
money, and although today Norwegians are the00:45:54
richest in the world, when communicating with them00:45:57
you are convinced that wealth00:46:00
has not changed them, it00:46:06
seems to me that our future is bright, we have00:46:10
plenty of opportunities not00:46:12
to bother you at all with immigration problems, we need00:46:15
foreigners to succeed where I live00:46:19
we are very happy with them their children go to school and00:46:22
now integration is much better we have a lot of00:46:25
work there are no unemployed at all and the00:46:28
people the atmosphere is all positive00:46:35
I suck at sleeping then it’s very beautiful then there00:46:38
will be more narrow sections incredibly00:46:42
little music and also00:46:46
[music]00:46:55
In general, I’m happy in the morning when I have00:47:00
breakfast and look at00:47:02
the ships passing by and you know I feel00:47:04
great my life is ideal00:47:10
what distinguishes our life I think00:47:13
equality00:47:14
is what distinguishes Norway from the00:47:17
egalitarian societies of Sweden before it for00:47:20
example I think first of all trust is the00:47:22
key word that determines our life00:47:25
my country is a very small part of the world00:47:29
but many look at us and try to00:47:32
learn what an00:47:34
ideal society should look like and of course being00:47:37
Norwegian means being rich and a little00:47:41
lazy or relaxed as we say00:47:44
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"Самые. Самые. Самые" — документальный сериал Владимира Познера и Ивана Урганта о странах Скандинавии и Финляндии. Название «Норвегия» происходит от древнескандинавского слова Norðrvegr, что означает «путь на Север». Это самая северная страна Европы, и все черты так называемого северного менталитета присутствуют в норвежском национальном характере в концентрированном виде. Владимир Познер решил выяснить, что же это за характер. Отправившись на крайний север Норвегии, журналист полагал, что именно там, среди снегов и холода, встретит настоящих, стопроцентных норвежцев и, пообщавшись с ними, сможет ответить на вопрос: что есть норвежское? Но, оказывается, исконными хозяевами этой земли были вовсе не норвежцы, а коренной народ саами. Чем отличаются саами от норвежцев, северяне от южан, норвежцы в целом от остальных скандинавов? Третья часть трилогии о Норвегии рассказывает об особенностях норвежского менталитета, а также о принципах построения процветающего норвежского общества, которое можно было бы назвать почти идеальным. Однако 22 июля 2011 года Андерс Брейвик, совершивший бесчеловечный теракт, разделил налаженную, спокойную жизнь норвежцев на «до» и «после». Осне Сейерстад, автор книги «Один из нас», анализирует причины, побудившие этого молодого человека пойти на преступление, раскрывает подробности его биографии и детали судебного процесса. Брейвик был признан вменяемым, виновным в совершении двух терактов и был приговорен к высшей мере наказания – 21 году тюремного заключения. Получить разрешение на интервью с террористом или узнать о точном месте заключения невозможно. Норвежское общество сочло самым страшным наказанием для него полное забвение. Познер побывал в одной из тюрем, где содержался Брейвик. В тюрьме Ила журналист ознакомился с норвежской системой наказания. И то, как она устроена, стало ключом к пониманию состояния общества, в котором находится Норвегия. По мнению самих норвежцев, их главными ценностями являются равенство и доверие.
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