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you are not confused by the term Ruslan shya or00:00:22
Putin shya We wanted to help the people of00:00:25
Germany Understand this politician they say00:00:27
that I am Putin’s Agent and our whole team00:00:30
I would be glad if we had a00:00:32
chancellor like Novsky, we ourselves wanted to00:00:35
go to Donbass we were able to00:00:37
come to an agreement with Brezhnev, of course,00:00:39
also with Gorbachev and Yeltsin, they are very00:00:42
susceptible to propaganda, namely00:00:44
Russian propaganda, part of the Serbian society looks at00:00:47
what is happening in Ukraine through the prism of the00:00:49
Kosovo problem, the greatest threat to00:00:51
the world is the NATO-America pact, but00:00:58
they are fighting on the side of Russia, yes, it’s00:01:03
true the Russians helped us both during the00:01:06
First and Second World Wars00:01:08
Putin was able to unite the country and will remain00:01:11
in history as one of the great rulers00:01:15
[music] of00:01:18
Russia Hello friends in modern00:01:21
German there is a word Putin fersch it00:01:24
literally translates as understanding or00:01:27
understanding Putin so vgr Now, in00:01:30
general, the Western press calls00:01:32
European supporters of the Kremlin’s policies;00:01:35
this is not the largest group in00:01:38
all surveys; the majority of residents of the Old00:01:40
World now clearly support00:01:42
Ukraine; however, their voice is heard,00:01:45
firstly, because these Europeans are00:01:47
very fond of being quoted by the Russian state government.00:01:49
Well, remember headlines like the Germans00:01:51
come out with condemnation of the policies of their00:01:53
government, and secondly, in their homeland they00:01:56
have become well, a kind of dissidents, the00:01:58
European media brand them agents of00:02:01
the Kremlin and remember the phrase useful idiots,00:02:04
useful idiots, as you know, we in the00:02:06
editorial office want you to draw your own00:02:08
conclusions, so we decided to get00:02:11
to know each other better and to introduce you to those00:02:14
who are called Putin,00:02:15
Fershtein traveled around Europe and tried00:02:19
to understand who they are and what they understood, those who understood00:02:24
Putin do not share the anti-Russian00:02:26
hysteria, the Europeans themselves, many already00:02:28
understand that for the sake of the ambitions of politicians,00:02:30
ordinary citizens will have to tighten their belts00:02:32
in the news and mainly the00:02:34
Russian Berliner Rene Hermann ended up00:02:36
back in the spring, when I posted00:02:38
an appeal to Vladimir Putin on tiktok, I’m really00:02:41
very sorry that European countries behave this way00:02:44
and don’t understand you. I’m happy for everyone00:02:48
who walks on the street for you. It’s unrealistic to00:02:51
take the Russian flag and go out00:02:54
on the streets right away.00:03:00
You are next to the entrance to the store Yes, but on the00:03:03
other00:03:08
hand, a former tiktoker, his account00:03:11
was blocked, suggested meeting in a00:03:13
deserted area near a large00:03:15
shopping00:03:17
center Good00:03:19
evening, why did you decide to record an00:03:22
appeal to Vladimir Putin, in theory, I was00:03:24
hesitant to say this, this is one00:03:28
side of dismay from everyone that Russia is bad and00:03:32
this and that and the fifth tenth, so I just00:03:34
thought it was necessary to put it, it is necessary to say this is not00:03:35
so, you need to somehow apologize to the00:03:37
person because everything is different, but I00:03:40
see it differently, I understand differently00:03:42
why the Europeans don’t want understand what00:03:45
we are talking about there in the conflict Ukraine00:03:47
Russia, this is what I can’t understand, I00:03:50
fully support you. Everyone says Putin is00:03:52
bad there here and there, but no one looks00:03:54
at the fact that he managed to do everything, that he00:03:56
did everything if Putin were president in different00:03:59
countries, these states would still survive and00:04:01
what kind even in Germany there would be such a00:04:04
president with open hands and00:04:06
people don’t see this, you can say that he is your00:04:08
political00:04:10
idol Yes, you voted for him Yes, why is00:04:15
n’t there anyone to blame for what is00:04:16
happening now in Ukraine, the Americans there there’s00:04:19
nothing to even think about, the Americans give the Ukrainians00:04:22
weapons for leasing, and we in Germany have to00:04:26
pay more, and America swears that00:04:27
we’re not paying on time, and what is this?00:04:30
In the course of the conversation, it turns out that00:04:32
RN has good Russian, thanks to Groves’00:04:35
childhood, how old are you and what do you do? I00:04:38
work for By profession, I00:04:41
actually don’t even know how to speak Russian to00:04:43
become a plumber, but I didn’t work in this00:04:46
profession, I just learned someday And00:04:48
I worked in business back and forth in different00:04:51
companies, I drove around and all that And now00:04:55
now But after I started During the war,00:04:58
everything in Ukraine was closed, now I’m00:05:00
sitting here and I’m still without work. And you00:05:02
had some kind of business in Ukraine Yes, I00:05:04
had four there, Athens, like coffee00:05:06
kiosks, the famous motor rally that00:05:09
was in Berlin in the spring You can00:05:12
call yourself an organizer or let’s say so with the00:05:14
organizer of this, well, who is the organizer? Yes,00:05:17
Igor sits in front and I’m in the garden, so he00:05:21
registered everything, he’s present there with00:05:23
the policeman, he sorted it out, and I00:05:26
put everything on his feet there and people were called and so00:05:28
on, they officially said there were already more than 5,00000:05:32
cars in this car rally took place in00:05:35
Berlin at the beginning of April last year00:05:37
Igor is a Russian German about whom00:05:39
Rene is talking about the main organizer of00:05:43
the action And where are you from where did you come to00:05:46
Germany from Orenburg Orenburg00:05:49
down scarf yes I actually didn’t decide to00:05:51
move my00:05:53
parents said let’s go I00:05:57
was small so I came This is in in principle,00:06:00
why did you decide to hold this00:06:02
motor rally, to show that we are not enemies of the00:06:04
Germans, that we should also stay00:06:06
together as we lived before, that is, when00:06:08
we arrived, that there is no need to Love us there and00:06:11
consider that if you are Russian, then this is not00:06:14
a stigma, but you are also As far as I00:06:16
understand, with this motor rally they wanted to00:06:18
express their00:06:20
Solidarity for the special operation, I still didn’t understand.00:06:23
Where was it, that they stuck a letter00:06:26
there, or were they going to defeat someone there in00:06:31
Ukraine, or Why did they decide this way? The fact00:06:34
that they hung Russian flags does not00:06:36
mean that they supported the entire war at00:06:38
this motor rally. I can’t answer for everyone,00:06:40
support for a special operation, that00:06:42
was also the goal, it turned out that way In the end,00:06:44
but that wouldn’t be an example of a goal if someone00:06:47
was wearing a Putin T-shirt, why not?00:06:58
well, on your ato run there were the letters Z00:07:02
or there was one woman, but she was00:07:05
somewhere as we were driving there was already an00:07:08
intermediary for a certain time, they00:07:11
pulled her out, they fined her, and it seems like00:07:14
even the Ukrainians would have, I don’t even know, a week00:07:16
earlier on March 27, a motor rally with Russian00:07:19
Tricolor and with patriotic symbols00:07:21
was held in the west of Germany in Cologne and00:07:24
Bonn, its organizers assure that they00:07:26
were in contact with Berlin, but their actions00:07:29
were mostly Russian-speaking, there00:07:32
were a few native Germans, there were Turks,00:07:34
even yes, but mostly they were00:07:36
Russian-speaking people who came from almost00:07:39
all of Europe, it was the first motor rally00:07:41
and, as we later learned, it was the first00:07:43
motor rally in Europe in general in00:07:45
support of Russia against the military, how can I00:07:49
say it, the action that Ukraine has been conducting since00:07:51
1914 in the Donbass, but the00:07:54
German media say that it was an00:07:57
action in support of a special operation, the German00:08:00
media have a lot what do the German media say,00:08:02
they say that I am Putin’s Agent and our entire00:08:05
team are Putin’s agents, Putin’s Agent Well, it’s00:08:07
natural, of course. But00:08:11
sometimes it really just gets to the point of insanity.00:08:13
How can our civil position, our00:08:16
civil initiative,00:08:19
be twisted like this and say that someone is00:08:21
sponsoring us? Putin somehow00:08:24
pushes us and so on, well, it’s just00:08:26
our conscience, that’s why we do this when we come to00:08:29
Germany to Germany I came in00:08:31
1996 from where from Ukraine00:08:34
Dnepropetrovsk in my soul I’m Russian That’s what00:08:36
I can say for sure 100% in my soul I’m a00:08:38
Russian person born in the Soviet00:08:41
Union and the capital of my Motherland is still00:08:44
Moscow No, I don’t believe them because I00:08:47
know that, too, in their public pages00:08:50
this idea just began to be promoted. That00:08:52
Well, they shouldn’t show00:08:56
their real face. Although of course someone00:08:59
may be for peace, that is, like this For00:09:01
peace in the whole world00:09:02
And for the Russian world at the same time, but there00:09:06
were just calls there, I saw these screenshots that00:09:09
Well, we behave as much as possible We are00:09:10
careful when we say that we are For00:09:14
peace We, of course, do not use00:09:17
the symbols Z and and Lisa Wolfson is a member of00:09:23
the anti-war democracy; together with the00:09:25
Ukrainians, its participants stood in the way of00:09:28
the motor rally,00:09:31
like many of her opponents, they were00:09:33
brought to Germany as children; they are very susceptible to00:09:35
propaganda, namely Russian propaganda; the fact is that00:09:37
they do not accept some kind of00:09:40
alternative sources, they00:09:43
say in German they have a good job00:09:45
there, the house is fine, but this As it00:09:50
turned out, as it turned out, this is00:09:51
not enough for integration, to be00:09:54
integrated you need political00:09:57
or even broader civic participation in life00:10:00
in the life of the00:10:02
[music]00:10:06
country, you can put that book on you00:10:09
had an attempt to go into politics Yes, in00:10:13
2018, when I found out that my wife was pregnant,00:10:16
I just started to just engage specifically00:10:19
in politics because I said Okay, we have00:10:22
already grown up here with this nightmare, what is00:10:24
going on here How will our children grow up?00:10:27
Because of this, I joined this ADF party00:10:29
so-called it was at that time for me,00:10:33
how perfect all our interests00:10:36
coincided, everything was going great perfect00:10:40
until this00:10:42
moment in February, before the special operation,00:10:45
Ukrainian flags began to appear everywhere00:10:47
Solidarity only Ukraine Well, we00:10:49
had a meeting in short at the CI and there was00:10:52
one question on discrimination against Russian00:10:55
Germans And I did this one more day in advance I00:10:58
warned my colleagues that if00:11:00
they say anything, I will hang up the00:11:02
Russian flag as a sign of attention00:11:05
for00:11:06
Russia Well, then at the meeting, as00:11:09
was to be expected, they didn’t even close this item00:11:11
discuss How00:11:13
there is no discrimination Among the Russian Germans, I00:11:16
immediately pulled out the flag and said that I was hanging this00:11:19
flag for the dead children and women in00:11:21
Donetsk and Lugansk over the past 8 years.00:11:23
I was forced to quickly remove this rag, as they00:11:26
put it, and leave the00:11:36
meeting with Evgeniy’s parents. What if00:11:39
in German it’s war?00:11:41
his wife Saina came from Kazakhstan, originally from Azerbaijan,00:11:44
when we came here to00:11:46
Germany, people and the country itself was00:11:48
completely different, like before00:11:51
in Russia they said Germany is great, they have the00:11:54
best doctors, the car is like that,00:11:56
pensioners used to00:11:59
drive only Mercedes, now00:12:02
look00:12:03
alone not a single pensioner Unfortunately,00:12:06
once a month I see one in a Mercedes,00:12:10
this is some kind of exception. Yes, the00:12:13
best thing was that there was a German00:12:15
currency at that time. You would like it00:12:18
to00:12:20
come back. That’s our money.00:12:23
That’s the story of these00:12:28
children for what time. money was who is00:12:31
your political idol for both of you00:12:34
for me Zhirinovsky or you don’t have it at all00:12:38
Actually Zhirinovsky And for you from00:12:41
ours at the moment there is no one like00:12:43
that Although no I really liked00:12:45
this one what was her name Alice Widen she was00:12:49
very much for the problems in Germany for00:12:53
this whole situation with the coronavirus,00:12:56
then for vaccinations so that they don’t get vaccinated00:13:00
Well, I also liked Zhirinovsky very much00:13:02
because he was a very00:13:03
fair person. I think I would be glad00:13:06
if we had a00:13:08
chancellor like00:13:09
Zhirinovsky loved his00:13:12
People and They don’t tell you that like guys,00:13:14
if you don’t like it, go back00:13:16
to Russia and they00:13:17
send me to Russia every day, I even had such00:13:19
a moment after the performance in Lanta,00:13:21
even the police themselves called me, I even have00:13:23
letters, they came to me,00:13:25
gevar, what are you you want to achieve That's why00:13:27
you act like this for Russia What are your00:13:30
plans What do you want there The Bundestag is00:13:33
shur Mot because I addressed00:13:35
the video that Russian Germans, there are00:13:37
still more than 5 million of us here, you Imagine,00:13:40
only 20% we will unite and go to00:13:43
Berlin this there will be more than a million, I just00:13:46
said, you and I can00:13:49
change the policy in Germany, it’s00:13:51
possible. How do you feel positively about Trump? I00:13:54
can’t say00:13:58
anything bad, you know how00:14:02
the assault ended. Well, again, these are the damn ones who00:14:08
teach us the truth,00:14:10
it may be buried far away somewhere this is also an00:14:13
expression of some kind of distrust of their00:14:16
own power, they believe that00:14:18
Russia defends some traditional00:14:21
values, that in fact they defend00:14:24
Christianity, these are the00:14:29
traditional values of the family and what in00:14:33
reality our leading00:14:36
politicians betrayed These are the00:14:38
original values that Europe00:14:41
is Europe and Russia is still the00:14:45
real00:14:48
Europe, you need to understand that in Germany and in00:14:50
other European countries00:14:54
people of different calibers and00:14:57
completely different views about onal00:14:59
policies, representatives of the expert00:15:01
community, businessmen who work with00:15:03
Russia and not only ordinary citizens and00:15:06
their ideas about the country. They00:15:08
range from health and balalaika00:15:11
to reading Tolstoy in the original and we00:15:14
must clearly understand that we are talking about the00:15:16
attitude towards the Russian government, about the00:15:18
support of the Russian government and not about the00:15:20
attitude towards the nation In general because00:15:22
A priori, I am sure that many residents of the00:15:25
Old World have a good attitude towards00:15:27
Russia for various reasons. We are talking00:15:29
about supporting the country’s foreign policy course,00:15:32
and here Russia has a fairly00:15:34
standard set of arguments. Putin fsh - in the00:15:38
German concept, these are people who00:15:40
believe that German policy is00:15:44
too close to USA, that we have to00:15:47
come to terms with Russia, what in fact is the00:15:51
USA, NATO, the European Union did not00:15:55
take into account the interests of Russia after the00:15:59
unification of Germany, these are also people from the00:16:02
former Greers, in particular, who in00:16:06
Groves times had close relations with the00:16:09
Soviet Union, a lot is invested in this concept00:16:16
sometimes a projection of some hopes for Russia, that it00:16:19
would be better for us if we were closer with00:16:22
Russia than with NATO or with the USA, there are00:16:25
really very different00:16:27
people there, probably those who work in the00:16:31
political field, that is, who either00:16:33
have their own party, yes, or have00:16:39
Vki regularly working00:16:43
media, the very concept of Putin is a fersch, that is, someone00:16:47
who understands explains or justifies the00:16:49
actions of Vladimir Putin. And00:16:51
speaking in a broader context, the00:16:53
official line of Moscow appeared from a00:16:55
well-known journalist and00:16:57
researcher schmaltz, she really00:17:00
knows Russia well; at one time she00:17:02
worked as a Moscow correspondent for the00:17:04
first German newspaper television in 2015 she00:17:08
releases a book called Ruslan00:17:10
Fershtein to understand Russia with the speaker00:17:13
entitled the fight for Ukraine and the00:17:15
arrogance of the West in this book she00:17:18
tried to00:17:19
explain Russia's foreign policy her00:17:22
view of the world through her national00:17:24
interests the fears and reluctances of the West00:17:30
what she really is00:17:32
crown schmaltz was a frequent guest of the00:17:35
St. Petersburg dialogue, the brainchild of President00:17:38
Putin and Chancellor Schröder, but Germany and00:17:40
Russia have moved so far away from each other00:17:43
that dialogue in every sense no longer exists00:17:45
on the German media landscape, almost00:17:47
unnoticed by other iconic participants in00:17:49
this forum My name is Alexander and I00:17:52
have been working with German-Russian people for 40 years00:17:54
relations I am a member of the German-Russian00:17:56
forum of the St. Petersburg Dialogue00:18:00
[music]00:18:03
community I wrote a book Aha about00:18:06
Putin and after that they called me from00:18:08
the Kremlin and said that the President of Russia00:18:11
wants to meet his biographers in00:18:13
Germany Who is he I was00:18:16
really invited I had dinner there was a very00:18:17
pleasant conversation very much00:18:18
strategic topics I really00:18:20
liked I think that he put his bet00:18:22
on Germany from the very beginning in order to00:18:24
try to00:18:27
get closer to the West through Germany. Putin is not a democrat,00:18:30
he is rather an authoritarian Leader who00:18:32
began to build a state on practically00:18:35
other ideas than on Western00:18:39
democracy,00:18:41
he immediately called for this In relation to00:18:44
hostility, you are not embarrassed by the term gun fesh00:18:48
or Putin fesh. Well, this is an offensive saying00:18:52
that was invented in the press in00:18:54
order to label those people who are00:18:57
here trying to explain Russia or00:19:00
talk about Russian interests or00:19:02
advocate friendly relations with00:19:04
Russia. And you are classified in this category00:19:06
Well, I’m there in the first rows of the first rows,00:19:09
I think it all started with me. That’s the00:19:11
very name and the name of the labels, and in00:19:15
what year there was a whole real00:19:18
campaign against me in all German00:19:20
newspapers. I’ll honestly say that I’m offended00:19:22
because I grew up in Germany. I00:19:27
didn’t play any games there,00:19:30
I had one thing with a00:19:33
pure heart, I wanted reconciliation between00:19:36
Russia, Germany and Russia and the West00:19:40
after the end of the Cold War and00:19:43
Ich stopped inviting me soon00:19:47
after the events of that year, before that I00:19:50
was actually very often on00:19:52
television and then they considered00:19:55
that the Western elites or those who Ret should00:19:59
invite someone to discuss with, that00:20:02
in general, even some kind of swelling about the00:20:06
Russian position should not be00:20:08
heard here at all00:20:11
[music]00:20:13
in fact, while the War is going on, it is impossible to come00:20:16
out here with an explanation of the Russian00:20:19
position or or attempts to reconcile,00:20:22
see this is not it This concerns00:20:24
me, this concerns this expression00:20:27
as diplomacy. Here you listen to what00:20:29
they say in Europe: We don’t want diplomatic00:20:31
relations with Russia. We want a war. We00:20:33
want Russia to lose, it must00:20:35
lose. And in Russia, of course,00:20:37
aggression is also now developing towards00:20:39
Germany. I already said00:20:42
something. Germany is now supplying the00:20:45
most advanced modern tanks to00:20:49
Ukraine, Germany is making00:20:50
parties, it seems that00:20:57
Anne00:20:59
ro is good that the PTA was still at the very00:21:04
beginning of Putin’s rule about him and00:21:07
we wrote partially about it even then00:21:10
together, at some point he said goodbye00:21:14
to the expert00:21:15
position, he left to the00:21:20
position of an expert, so to speak, love00:21:27
Gazprom of the German economy, the German00:21:30
bank deut Bank, which then had00:21:32
very close relations with Russia,00:21:34
which was entering the Russian market, but I00:21:37
was not a lobbyist for economic groups,00:21:39
they just believed that it was necessary to promote the ideas of00:21:41
cooperation with00:21:46
Russia, one of the most prominent and probably00:21:49
loud supporters of the official line of00:21:51
Moscow are German journalists who00:21:53
work, as it were, in the00:21:55
extreme right and left sectors of German00:21:59
politics, we agreed on an interview with the00:22:02
editor-in-chief of the compact magazine, its00:22:04
German Wikipedia and the German mass media00:22:07
describe it as a right-wing radical00:22:10
and even extremist publication, the editorial office00:22:12
is located As you can see, not in the center of Berlin,00:22:15
in a small house on the Eastern outskirts of the00:22:18
German00:22:19
capital, I have in my hands a special00:22:21
issue of your magazine and on its cover I00:22:24
see a collection of wartime speeches by Putin, they were00:22:26
planning to release a collection of00:22:29
speeches by Vladimir00:22:32
Putin. We wanted to help the people of Germany00:22:35
Understand this politician, give them00:22:37
unbiased material, ours the leading media00:22:40
are demonized00:22:42
or at least abbreviated, which is why we00:22:46
decided to publish the full texts of the speeches of the00:22:48
Russian President, a similar publication00:22:51
was already published only with the speeches of Donald00:22:54
Trump. Has your attitude towards Putin changed? At00:23:01
first I was overcome by doubts,00:23:04
I didn’t expect this, I was afraid of escalation after a00:23:07
couple of weeks After much thought, I I00:23:09
came to a different conclusion, I began00:23:11
to support more the special military00:23:13
operation and the deployment of troops on the territory of00:23:15
Ukraine. I was glad that finally00:23:17
there was a person who opposes the00:23:20
endless advance of the Western00:23:22
Empire throughout the world and the influence of the00:23:24
superpower in the person of00:23:27
America. Let's00:23:31
say he's a00:23:34
publicist for more than a decade, he started out00:23:37
as an alternative rather left-wing00:23:41
oriented journalist, but he's been visible for00:23:44
quite a long time and precisely as a person00:23:46
who speaks, I always have a different opinion,00:23:49
I'm always not connected and I always want to00:23:52
support a different position than what00:23:54
currently prevails, or especially in the00:23:56
government now he seems to be00:23:59
again against the support of00:24:02
Ukraine, so to speak, against the government, so to speak,00:24:06
how effective is he,00:24:09
how much does the audience listen to him? Well,00:24:12
look, in Germany there live 83 ml people,00:24:15
yes. And they may have an audience, if it’s a lot, then00:24:19
several hundred thousand, but few people have an00:24:22
audience higher than a00:24:24
million chief editor at fun00:24:29
alternative for Germany its deputies00:24:31
planned to go to Russia in September And00:24:34
from there to the east of Ukraine, according to them,00:24:36
the Germans do not trust the official media and00:24:38
want to find out the truth about this conflict00:24:40
from their00:24:42
deputies; we ourselves wanted to go to00:24:44
Donbass; three deputies, two from the00:24:46
Federal Land Saxony Anhalt and00:24:48
one from North Rhine Westphalia our00:24:50
party would like to see this side of00:24:52
the war I think this is correct, but if00:24:55
we went00:24:57
now00:24:59
Germany should understand how00:25:01
both sides see the situation, many of our00:25:03
politicians are now mainly going to Kiev,00:25:05
they are standing on the balcony with what we call their00:25:07
brothers boxers are drinking champagne00:25:09
When at the same time people are dying in the country,00:25:11
on both sides And this is00:25:13
wrong What has been happening in the Donbass00:25:16
since 2014 how many people have00:25:18
died there Why were the events of that time not00:25:21
so politicized00:25:25
my interlocutor appears in the role of the00:25:29
ru which follows from the scripture fights00:25:32
against Western propaganda opposed00:25:34
to Russia. Who wants war,00:25:37
sends weapons; Who wants peace,00:25:39
sends diplomats. Now even those who,00:25:43
in principle, somewhere support the00:25:45
official line of the Russian00:25:49
leadership are not comfortable with this,00:25:54
so now even from such parties as00:25:58
Germany is too Well cautious00:26:04
comments, so to speak, about00:26:08
this war against Ukraine, of course, we00:26:11
condemn and advocate a clear resolution of00:26:14
issues of international law00:26:16
through peaceful means. But on the other hand, it must be said00:26:19
that the rhythm of negotiations cannot be interrupted. And00:26:21
this is exactly what the European00:26:23
Union is doing and many other countries continue to do.00:26:25
But I think that the key to ending the00:26:28
war is not with Berlin, Paris or Rome, but first00:26:31
of all or only with Washington because00:26:34
we know that the Russians have repeatedly00:26:36
asked the Americans not to expand NATO and00:26:38
the EU to the east, and every conversation about this the00:26:41
Americans00:26:47
[music]00:26:50
was rejected by an agent in00:26:53
Germany Well, of course nonsense, I think00:26:55
these statements are on the conscience of other parties,00:26:59
including the Christian Democrats and of course00:27:01
Gerhard Rde. And the Social Democrats here00:27:05
should be reminded that it is the deputies of the00:27:07
alternative for Germany and the left parties who00:27:10
put the brakes on the issue of00:27:12
transferring leopard tanks to Ukraine to the last when00:27:14
you talk about the need for negotiations, they00:27:16
answer you to begin with Russians must00:27:19
leave Ukraine Although this cannot happen,00:27:22
but at the moment We need to00:27:25
achieve a00:27:27
truce00:27:28
that will systematically00:27:31
end this conflict for a long time and I am beginning00:27:34
to notice that this idea of00:27:36
unconditional support for Ukraine,00:27:39
regardless of their demands, is no longer00:27:45
popular, it is no secret that between the left00:27:47
party and officials in Russia00:27:50
before the conflict in Ukraine had very close00:27:52
contacts, how are they now?00:27:57
almost none except Lich, I00:28:01
support them but at the official level I have00:28:03
n’t heard of any meetings, I00:28:05
recently had an informal conversation with00:28:08
one of the members of the Duma Committee on00:28:10
Energy, but it’s impossible to say that00:28:13
normal working relations remain between us,00:28:17
we are able to talk with anyone.00:28:21
So we were able to come to an agreement with00:28:23
Brezhnev, despite Afghanistan, we00:28:26
were able to come to an agreement,00:28:29
naturally, also with Gorbachev and Yeltsin.00:28:32
This is our very concept that we are00:28:35
some kind of therapists, also of the Russian soul. And who is00:28:39
even better understands the Russian soul than we do in00:28:42
Germany, therefore this is a war, it is very00:28:45
difficult for not only intellectuals and00:28:48
also for the political class in Germany00:28:51
because this is the end of a certain concept.00:28:55
We lived for 50 years with this very concept that these are the00:28:58
ones who00:29:02
can we can overcome this00:29:05
It’s interesting that many of the Heroes of our00:29:06
report know each other well;00:29:09
journalist Elser, at a meeting of readers of00:29:11
compact magazine, gave a warm welcome to00:29:14
Elena Kolbasnikova, the organizer of00:29:16
pro-Russian actions in the west of00:29:27
Germany. Elena Kolbasnikova, at a rally00:29:29
against anti-Russian sanctions, he took place00:29:31
in Cologne, crossed paths with Ogino Walter, and00:29:34
he in his turn, I used00:29:36
the services of the German lawyer Kolbasnikov00:29:39
at the protests in Cologne, as far as I understand, the00:29:44
base lawyer took part, whom many call an00:29:48
ultra-right politician, a person who00:29:51
opposes Muslims, he is your00:29:54
supporter, a person who helps you.00:29:56
How do you feel about this? They say about me00:29:58
that I am a fascist, that I support00:30:01
Putin, that I am an Agent of the Kremlin and so on, and they00:30:05
also say the same thing about this00:30:08
person, I am definitely a patriot of my00:30:11
country, I hold conservative00:30:13
views, I am a religious person. Germany00:30:17
was committed to the idea of a Christian00:30:19
West and defended it. However, it also00:30:22
assumed the right to freedom, but in our country00:30:24
during a pandemic, to some extent00:30:27
freedom and civil00:30:29
rights were limited, which is not befitting a rule-of-law00:30:32
state. In December, you took part in a00:30:34
pro-Russian demonstration at the Cologne00:30:36
Cathedral. Tell us00:30:41
why. Because it00:30:44
seems to me that Germany is in danger of being drawn00:30:46
into a nuclear war all my life. I00:30:48
spoke out for Peaceful Skies over Europe00:30:50
after the Second World War. Germany00:30:52
swore that00:30:54
danger would never come from there again, there would be00:30:56
no wars, and now we are discussing the00:30:59
supply of tanks with heavy weapons to00:31:02
confront Russia. This is00:31:04
outrageous. I wanted to create my own new00:31:07
party, but then I met RZM with00:31:11
one lawyer. Well, we now have a We are00:31:14
drawing up our plans. We also want to create00:31:16
one party, such that it would be a00:31:19
patriotic party for the German people.00:31:21
This is the most important thing for me. The00:31:23
party must have slogans, at00:31:25
least three slogans. What three00:31:27
slogans would you have? close the borders instantly,00:31:31
immediately leave Europe, return ours daughters00:31:35
Mark at the end of February Eugen Walter Elena00:31:39
Kolbasnikova and Markus Bazik will meet00:31:41
again This time at a demonstration in00:31:43
Ramstein Ramstein - This is the central00:31:46
American military base here in00:31:49
Germany and from there orders come from there00:31:53
weapons are formed which are then00:31:56
destroyed in Ukraine00:31:59
to the question Who will be from at the rally00:32:01
The locals immediately gave us a name and00:32:04
told us where to00:32:05
go. I see that the sanctions imposed00:32:08
against Russia primarily harm00:32:10
our citizens who have00:32:12
financial problems, and I consider it my00:32:14
duty to warn them against this disaster.00:32:16
Germany must make sure that00:32:18
all American bases are on our territory,00:32:20
such as for example Ramstein air bases were00:32:26
closed Jovi Jovich is a00:32:29
social educator by profession, works with mentally00:32:31
ill elderly people, lives in a00:32:33
small, well-kept town of Kampf00:32:35
Linford,00:32:37
my ancestors are Serbian and my father knows From00:32:41
my own experience what it’s like when German00:32:43
journalists begin to rewrite history00:32:46
years later, it doesn’t matter at all what’s in the00:32:49
media a documentary has appeared about the00:32:51
war in Kosovo in German, which00:32:53
essentially begins with a lie, I must say00:32:56
that few people know the real00:33:00
truth. Hall has his own Youtube channel, where he00:33:03
posts political comments and00:33:05
his speeches at00:33:10
[music]00:33:18
rallies, I also opened my Telegram00:33:20
channel, you know what it’s called the power of00:33:23
bros the name arose in my00:33:26
head spontaneously. There were five of us00:33:29
now in the region of 400-odd people, but there are00:33:34
more of us Russian-speaking Germans or00:33:37
indigenous00:33:39
people, these are Russian-speaking people from00:33:42
Germany from Serbia, but now00:33:44
residents of Moscow Pskov St. Petersburg are also subscribing to the channel. I ca00:33:47
n’t tell you about everyone I can,00:33:50
but there are even people from Kazakhstan, for example,00:33:52
I can say that often it is the imigrans and00:33:55
their descendants who form the00:33:58
Gurneys. Yes, we do this. The native Germans are00:34:02
more submissive and careful, but I assure you,00:34:05
basically they are also against00:34:07
anti-Russian sanctions and there are some channels against the supply of00:34:10
weapons to00:34:11
Ukraine in social networks00:34:16
that have a lot of subscribers, this00:34:19
means that there are different groups, there are00:34:24
direct00:34:26
supporters of the Russian official00:34:29
narrative, I would say several00:34:32
hundred thousand who every day through00:34:35
either Telegram or Facebook closed00:34:37
groups Odnoklassniki VKontakte other00:34:40
groups follow these and also tiktok, it00:34:44
seems to me plays a more important role than a year ago,00:34:47
also because there are always00:34:50
videos like this that are also00:34:54
for the younger00:34:56
generation. In general, I would say that the soft00:35:00
power of Russia, following the last 1100:35:04
months in Germany,00:35:11
has decreased significantly. Tell me how the NATO00:35:13
bombing of Serbia affected your00:35:15
political00:35:17
views when NATO began to bomb this00:35:20
territory I gradually realized how many00:35:23
lies the press began to talk about the places in00:35:26
which we live or vacation, about Serbia,00:35:29
Croatia, Bosnia, about this entire region,00:35:33
how much dirt the Serbs said about us00:35:36
And at that moment, German citizenship00:35:38
became for me, just a plastic00:35:40
card, in the end, all this shaped00:35:43
my personality. Since then I always say00:35:46
Yes, I am a00:35:54
Serb in Russia, in many ways we do not live by00:35:57
real ideas about Serbia, but00:35:59
rather by historical ideas,00:36:01
some myths about the former Yugoslavia.00:36:04
Of course, we remember well and know that this00:36:06
the country, even before the collapse of the Union, plunged00:36:09
into a terrible and00:36:14
cruel one. Now in this part of the Balkans00:36:16
there is a certain sum of independent00:36:18
states, but we have little idea00:36:20
how these states00:36:22
get along with each other, what political games they play,00:36:25
and also the Serbs. We, of course, do not take00:36:28
those who have relatives and friends in00:36:30
Russia who lives and works there They also00:36:32
have a rather vague00:36:34
idea of Russia Well, there is a certain00:36:35
Basis: we helped Serbia00:36:38
become an independent state at one time, we00:36:40
fought together against fascism We00:36:42
supported Belgrade and Milosevic in post-Soviet times,00:36:45
but by and large the Serbs do not00:36:47
delve into the nuances much modern Russian00:36:50
politics, they don’t ask unnecessary questions.00:36:52
There are places in the world where00:36:55
they speak Russian perfectly and they hate Russians, and00:36:58
there is Serbia, where you can easily meet00:37:01
a person on the street with the letter Z on his T-shirt00:37:04
who will not know the word of the Russian00:37:05
language but will say that they are00:37:08
Russian brothers and pleasant feelings00:37:10
to experience and even, as some did,00:37:13
to go to war, the President of Serbia seems to00:37:15
speak Russian only a few words00:37:18
in Russian But as far as he00:37:20
understands Russia and is ready to support00:37:22
Vladimir Putin, the Serbian00:37:25
leader took it upon himself to do00:37:27
you think Alexander00:37:29
Vucic actually belongs to Russia his girl went00:37:32
to the Russian school in00:37:35
Belgrade dad Great Russophile brother00:37:38
native son whole surname and this is his00:37:44
emotional position he should be00:37:46
considered as a trader who will00:37:48
do what is profitable for him when he is00:37:50
good with Russia This means that00:37:52
And what is this on that the moment is beneficial or that it is00:37:56
impossible to act differently and00:37:59
vice versa, and Vučić understands that00:38:03
because of the mood of the people, a00:38:06
successful politician in Serbia must always00:38:09
be on good terms with Russia, but00:38:13
because everything otherwise would look like a00:38:16
betrayal on the one hand, Serbia00:38:19
stands for the territorial integrity of00:38:21
Ukraine, on the other hand, the Serbian00:38:24
leadership refuses to participate in00:38:26
anti-Russian sanctions,00:38:28
do not join anti-Russian00:38:30
sanctions for us and for Russia itself, this is more00:38:33
important than temporary voted at the00:38:36
general00:38:38
assembly. We have one fundamental00:38:41
problem - this is Kosovo, we believe00:38:44
that Kosovo belongs to Serbia and what is it00:38:49
like that we have territorial00:38:52
integrity there Yes Kosovo belongs to us from00:38:55
this point of view we must say that00:38:59
Ukraine is another state but this is only00:39:03
officially every Serb is sick for their own00:39:09
[applause]00:39:13
Zhizhi Ruskoselskaya00:39:19
forces in Serbia the center is registered in00:39:22
St. Petersburg We talked with his governor00:39:26
coordinator00:39:28
Vla Vladimirovich we understand perfectly well00:39:31
no one understands like a sir What happened in00:39:33
Ukraine We had this00:39:34
several years ago in Bos and in00:39:37
Croatia and Kosovo it was all arranged by the00:39:39
West I know that many Serbs go and00:39:42
fight on the side of00:39:43
Russia and this is true even among I00:39:46
know people who are still there00:39:49
since 2014, they don’t risk a fight of00:39:56
persecution Maybe you can correct00:39:58
me, there seems to be a law that does not00:40:00
allow citizens of Serbia there is such a00:40:03
law, but my brother needs help when he00:40:06
got into problems, I am a war veteran myself00:40:09
Kosovo and metohi in00:40:11
1999 when NATO and the USA fascists00:40:14
bombed my Serbia, I also fought and there were00:40:18
many Russian Volunteers, I am very00:40:20
grateful to them, unfortunately I have small00:40:23
children and could not go to Ukraine, this is the00:40:26
reason why I could not go I would also00:40:28
be there now you, as part of a small00:40:31
group of the Eagles organization, were in00:40:33
St. Petersburg and you met with00:40:35
representatives of the private military company00:40:37
Wagner, we just went through a friend of mine.00:40:40
They went there as the00:40:42
organizers of the rally. They just invited us,00:40:45
showed this Wagner Center, everyone00:40:47
sat there for one hour. I think there was no more00:40:50
and They made small videos about this,00:40:53
it appeared on the Internet and after that they00:40:55
set up a military center here in Serbia, they opened a center00:40:58
about Wagner, they said that there is absolutely00:41:00
no Wagner center, we just00:41:02
came in as Guests, this is a media center, there is00:41:06
no Wagner group of a military formation00:41:08
No, that is, there is no here no00:41:10
recruitment no no recruitment I’m00:41:13
not involved in recruiting Serbs I didn’t00:41:15
comment on the situation Yevgeny00:41:17
Prigozhin didn’t stand aside Vucic also spoke in an00:41:19
interview with the TV channel00:41:22
about the presence of Wagner in Serbia,00:41:24
but at the same time he reproached the customers of the rivers in00:41:27
Serbian she was floating around on the Internet for some time00:41:32
this is all misinformation of course00:41:34
and This suggests that we have a00:41:36
lot of irresponsible people. I want to00:41:38
emphasize this to everyone, first of all, I am00:41:40
addressing our Russian friends. I don’t00:41:42
want to go into details. Whether the site was00:41:45
old or new, whether it was launched from00:41:47
Moscow or from another place, it doesn’t matter whether it00:41:49
’s a Wagner site or no And what are you doing00:41:52
with Serbia Why call people from00:41:54
Serbia to Var00:41:56
Koda00:41:58
for Belgrade lawyer and political activist00:42:01
Cedomir Stojkovic demands criminal00:42:03
prosecution of those who, quote, are involved in00:42:06
mobilizing Serbian citizens for war in the00:42:09
lawsuit filed by Stojkovic in particular the00:42:11
Russian Ambassador to Serbia00:42:13
Alexander Botsan Kharchenko and head of00:42:15
Serbian intelligence Alexander00:42:19
Vulin if the Wagner PMC was conceived as an00:42:23
instrument of presence in foreign00:42:25
countries And if we see that the Serbs00:42:27
enroll in this company to00:42:29
fight in its ranks, then the answer becomes00:42:32
obvious the Wagner PMC operates00:42:36
on the territory of Serbia; moreover, tomorrow I00:42:39
am going to bring criminal charges00:42:42
against those who paint the symbols of the00:42:45
Wagner company on Belgrade00:42:49
walls, the logo of the PMC Wagner and other00:42:52
symbols associated with it, there is already a00:42:54
lot of anti-NATO graffiti in the capital, and00:42:57
this mural was dedicated to Albert Andieva00:42:59
Volunteers from Ossetia, he fought in Kosovo00:43:02
and recently died in Serbia from Covid in the00:43:04
center of Belgrade is located Probably one00:43:07
of the most famous graffiti that00:43:09
reflects the very complex attitude of the Serbs00:43:12
to Russia to Putin to the Russian government,00:43:15
here in the spring a large piece of graffiti appeared: A00:43:17
canvas with a large portrait of00:43:20
Vladimir Putin against the background of the Russian00:43:22
flag and approximately Here it was written00:43:23
in Russian, someone took it and sketched it00:43:26
beech beech b and it turned out the Serbian word00:43:29
rad which00:43:32
means around this graffiti00:43:34
there was a constant war then00:43:36
the image of Vladimir Putin was painted over00:43:38
then it was painted over again then it was covered with00:43:40
insults then they were then covered over again00:43:43
which Serbian party currently00:43:46
takes the most pro-Russian position the00:43:48
party of the door which is headed by Bosko00:43:51
Obradovic is the democratic party of00:43:54
Serbia. I think that the Russian party itself00:43:58
is the Serbian Orthodox Church and the00:43:59
Serbian people in small00:44:02
settlements and, in principle, they can try to00:44:04
make a roundabout maneuver, the target is hidden00:44:07
enemy infantry, in other words, the trenches of the00:44:09
nationalists, having gained experience in 10 months,00:44:12
Nina Borisa and her husband Nikola live in a00:44:15
cozy, I would like to say antique00:44:17
Soviet apartment in the old Belgrade00:44:20
district of the doctor, a friend of the architect Pavel came to them for tea, the00:44:22
best part of my00:44:25
life was in Moscow and in Russia,00:44:28
this is that my I perceive Russia and00:44:32
Russians as one whole and I love00:44:37
madly and will it doesn’t matter whether it’s the00:44:41
Russian Empire or the Soviet Union00:44:44
or the Russian Federation or whatever00:44:48
How do you feel about the Ukrainians and00:44:50
Ukraine I feel sorry for the people It doesn’t matter who they are I00:44:54
feel sorry for them but I felt sorry for these people00:44:58
who lived in Donbass for 8 years I don’t want00:45:03
to call it a war Because I I don’t00:45:05
think this is a war, I think this is a00:45:07
special operation and I will remain with this00:45:10
feeling, of course, it’s bad and terrible,00:45:14
but I will be on the side of Russia, it00:45:19
doesn’t matter at all Who is in power What is going on And let’s00:45:23
say00:45:24
Genekovo on the planet here, obviously00:45:29
since the Second World War, the greatest threat to00:45:31
the world is the NATO-America pact00:45:34
Look at the number of Warriors in which00:45:36
They participated in comparison with the Russians00:45:38
whom they call a threat to the world. In00:45:41
principle, many have changed their opinion about00:45:42
Western democracy due to the autocratic00:45:44
measures they took during the00:45:47
covid epidemic and especially since the00:45:50
war or special operation began in00:45:52
Ukraine when in the west they closed the00:45:54
Russian channel RT,00:45:59
this is barking00:46:02
brainwashing, in mid-November the00:46:05
Arti project was launched in the Balkans on the00:46:07
streets of Belgrade, there are still advertising posters with a00:46:10
single word, finally Margarita00:46:12
Sima announced the opening of the portal00:46:14
with the words Kosovo is Serbia, the YouTu channel of this00:46:17
project was blocked After00:46:19
a few00:46:21
[music]00:46:25
weeks00:46:28
fago00:46:31
I don’t understand What was the point of opening the00:46:34
Arti channel in Serbia, I’m sure that our00:46:37
TV channels themselves can spy something00:46:39
from your propagandists and editors,00:46:41
for example, Hap and Pin are our highest-00:46:44
rated national channels with a00:46:46
large audience and they can simply00:46:48
borrow your Propaganda meaning in the00:46:51
opening of the channel it seems only to00:46:53
intend to demonstrate00:46:55
influence00:46:58
and Serbian political00:47:00
circles unite the State by starting the Cold War,00:47:04
ready But00:47:07
the following is freedom in Ukrainian How do00:47:10
we get information from this may be00:47:13
strange for you to hear, but for example, we have00:47:16
on00:47:19
channel 283 The First Channel is Russian And already on00:47:24
285 and 28600:47:36
in Russian We also watch very often and00:47:40
you00:47:41
watch we deliver I am looking at both Arma00:47:47
shena Arma she watches every time00:47:55
until now Is00:47:57
Putin really a very popular00:47:59
politician in Serbia I think that yes we00:48:02
know how What happened to the Soviet00:48:05
Union like that there is after the collapse of the00:48:08
Soviet Union and how scary it was that00:48:12
we had the feeling00:48:14
that there was no longer such a big brother, the00:48:18
Great Protector, and Russia was weak00:48:22
with Yeltsin, it was weak, and with Putin,00:48:26
it had ceased to be weak, and Serbia00:48:30
now needs a protector, it always needs us, the00:48:34
only thing that was small was that it was00:48:36
the only reliable defender was the00:48:39
Orthodox Tsar in the East who was00:48:41
he was sitting here in Moscow and so it was00:48:44
inherited that So, as we were taught00:48:47
in the East the sun rises in the East00:48:50
Russia is also Where is our source of00:48:52
light where is the Orthodox Tsar and here00:48:55
you know, and in simple terms,00:48:57
even when Russia did not become when00:48:59
the Soviet Union became Well, the Leader was still sitting there00:49:01
in the Kremlin and he was also secretly00:49:03
considered to be secretly believed that he was the Heir of the00:49:06
Russian Tsar with Putin Petr Rosich,00:49:09
the head of the repository of the state archive of Serbia,00:49:11
communicated personally in 2019 when the President00:49:14
of Russia arrived in Belgrade This is00:49:17
the residence of the Chamber of Serbia called the00:49:19
residence of the President of Serbia Here I am in00:49:22
the middle here is President Putin here is00:49:24
President Vucic telling you00:49:27
that he asked such leading00:49:29
questions and during this period Which king00:49:32
ruled in Russia Alexander II and I so he00:49:35
asked others like and then I realized that00:49:37
he knows the answer. He wanted to check00:49:39
how much I know Vučić, although it was he who00:49:41
had the Seventh meeting with Putin then, that00:49:45
although he is taller than him, you know, he is about 90 meters tall,00:49:47
something like Putin, you know that’s what it is00:49:49
and00:49:50
Although 20 years on him younger, but he looks00:49:53
at him, you know, like a student at his00:49:55
beloved koto,00:49:58
appear in good spirit in front of a00:50:02
friend, I can see00:50:04
you, but here00:50:08
you are with the Russian flag00:50:11
Yes, I’ll show it now The Immortal00:50:14
Regiment, see this The uniform of my grandfather, a00:50:17
major of the tank forces of the Red Army, these are the00:50:19
things with00:50:25
pleasure, there are00:50:28
some clashes with someone on Facebook or not,00:50:29
some comments, well, basically no.00:50:32
Well,00:50:33
you know, I have more clashes. Well,00:50:36
with ordinary Serbs who say like00:50:40
damn, that the Russians have been stuck in00:50:42
this Ukraine for so long, that this is not so it’s more on00:50:45
the contrary claims What is it00:50:50
[music]00:50:52
slowly one of the frequent topics of kitchen00:50:55
conversations VL will we live to00:50:57
see joining the European Union according to a00:51:01
survey conducted by the crta agency at the end of last year Serbs are not00:51:04
eager to become part of a united Europe, only00:51:07
28% of respondents would be happy joining the00:51:10
EU 36% feel indifferent to the00:51:13
question Who are you inclined to support in the00:51:15
Russian-Ukrainian conflict 58%00:51:19
answered Russia in May there were a little00:51:21
more of them I can00:51:22
initial one analyst who00:51:25
said well about the mark you know you00:51:28
need to come to the party on time when there is a00:51:31
lot of booze and free people beautiful00:51:34
girls, what's the point of coming at 4 in the morning00:51:37
after giving all your hard-earned money when everything has already been00:51:39
drunk and not only are there no good girls00:51:41
anymore? Would you like00:51:43
Serbia to join the00:51:45
EU00:51:47
from Europe?00:52:03
educated Serbs00:52:05
living in big cities who00:52:07
studied abroad or traveled00:52:09
abroad, the opinion is increasingly heard00:52:12
that they are imposing on us some strange00:52:14
choice, either Russia or the European Union. Why00:52:17
not, for example, live as part of a united00:52:19
Europe and at the same time maintain normal00:52:21
relations with00:52:23
Russia and sit on I00:52:26
think it’s not an option, it’s my personal opinion.00:52:28
Yes, I’m not a politician, now I’m a translator,00:52:30
but I just think that now00:52:33
Serbia is a country that, roughly speaking,00:52:35
is surrounded by the European Union and it is an official00:52:38
candidate for the European Union even from 201200:52:41
onwards. In my opinion, she became an official00:52:43
candidate, so it’s as if Serbia had00:52:46
other elections. No, the logical path00:52:48
is the path of00:52:50
the European Union, and the young man did not want00:52:53
to say his00:52:55
last name; his parents returned to Belgrade before the00:52:58
war in the Balkans; they had a00:52:59
tourism business; they took him away from here as a00:53:01
child. In the turbulent ninety-nine,00:53:04
what kind of family I lived in Kazakhstan and Ukraine for a while.00:53:07
I believe that Russia is not00:53:09
the only country that helps00:53:11
Serbia in terms of Kosovo or that has a00:53:13
definite position on this, there is00:53:14
also China and other countries that have not00:53:16
recognized Kosovo, including within00:53:18
the European Union, Spain there is Cyprus Slovakia, but it00:53:22
seems to me that now it is in the media Yes,00:53:25
in social networks it seems that Russia00:53:27
is the only00:53:29
elder brother there, let’s say, and this may be a00:53:31
problem to some extent, because now,00:53:33
as if for many Serbs, they do not have00:53:35
enough information, the information00:53:37
field is narrowing It is precisely because of such00:53:43
ideas that part of Serbian society00:53:45
looks at what is happening in Ukraine00:53:47
through the prism of the Kosovo problem. Despite the00:53:49
fact that America, Canada, some countries of00:53:51
the European Union and some states00:53:53
outside Europe have recognized the independence of the00:53:55
Republic of Kosovo, Serbia continues to00:53:58
consider this region part of its00:53:59
territory and the Serbs00:54:02
Kosovo’s attempts to gradually fix more and more00:54:05
new attributes of its00:54:07
statehood are very annoying; for example, there was an00:54:09
attempt to replace Serbian license00:54:11
plates with Kosovar ones because the Serbs00:54:14
continue to drive with their license plates. Or, for00:54:16
example, in mid-December, large00:54:18
detachments of the Kosovo police entered the city of00:54:21
Kosovo Mitrovica, where they mostly live00:54:23
ethnic Serbs are in the north of Kosovo and00:54:26
all these events led to a real00:54:28
serious armed conflict and00:54:30
here two theses arise that are very00:54:34
familiar and which remind us of something. And we00:54:37
must protect our people, in this00:54:38
case the Serbs, and protect them with weapons if necessary,00:54:41
and the second thesis - this is that behind the00:54:44
Kosovar leadership in Pristina is00:54:46
NATO and NATO is our main00:54:48
rival, the situation is very tense00:54:51
there, our people were left there at the mercy of00:54:53
these enemies of ours who are00:54:55
mocking our people and we must00:54:58
protect them Kosovo is occupied00:55:00
territory of Serbia Kosovo is the heart of00:55:02
Serbia the soul of Montenegro and we must00:55:04
do something, what is our special00:55:06
military operation to get it back? One00:55:09
of the Serbian politicians recently spoke out00:55:11
in favor of the denazification00:55:13
of Kosovo, it’s just an awkward00:55:15
expression,00:55:17
you know, he chose the wrong words, he00:55:19
chose the words wrong, he may have00:55:21
wanted to say that it is necessary to enter there with troops00:55:26
and take away return Kosovo to Serbia Yes,00:55:29
but this is not the moment for this and it was00:55:32
the wrong choice of expression, you know, it00:55:35
should be done right away if00:55:39
they said so denazification00:55:41
of the Balkans because in Croatia and further00:55:45
they will glorify these neo-Nazis in the Second00:55:48
World War from the second and in other00:55:50
republics too Our people we00:55:54
have something imperial for ourselves, that is, a Serb00:55:58
always looks from a seemingly larger00:56:03
scale in Serbia, in any tavern everyone00:56:06
will talk about politics, that is,00:56:08
we are just this, this is part of I would say00:56:10
our specificity of our mentality And00:56:13
even if someone in Russia began to00:56:15
explain from Russia, but you see, not everything is like that,00:56:18
there are nuances to explain everything, you can00:56:20
listen to the custom I said Well, well, I00:56:24
still know better how it is in Russia than you00:56:26
[music]00:56:29
it is indicative that of all the European00:56:31
leaders,00:56:34
Vladimir Putin congratulated only Vladimir Putin on the New Year, except Vucic Viktor00:56:36
Orb, the Prime Minister of Hungary and his00:56:38
government are listed as almost the00:56:40
main allies of the Kremlin. Viktor Orbán00:56:43
conducts about the Hungarian policy.00:56:46
Many people want to think that this is a00:56:49
pro-Russian policy; this is mainly what many people00:56:53
think in Russia and want to think;00:56:56
see in the West they also think so, but this is00:57:00
not true Urban carries out pro-Hungarian00:57:04
policies, defends will try to protect00:57:08
Hungarian interests, proceeds from these00:57:11
interests and the interests coincide, for example00:57:14
in the energy sector in the00:57:17
security sector in the area of attitude towards00:57:20
nationalities and it is very important that the attitude towards00:57:25
conservatism is the attitude towards traditional00:57:30
values. One of the main theses of the00:57:32
Orb election campaigns was the promise00:57:35
reduce the population's costs for00:57:36
utilities in this way he00:57:38
managed to get millions of votes for00:57:41
ordinary Hungarians, these promises sounded00:57:43
very tempting. So he won00:57:46
largely thanks to cheap Russian00:57:48
energy resources, but Russia can turn00:57:51
the valve on tomorrow, that is, in the00:57:53
short00:57:55
term, the00:57:59
Orna researchers deliberately do00:58:02
not formulate it attitude towards Russia00:58:04
it is vague, the former Komsomol leader at the00:58:07
Orban school in the late eighties00:58:09
turned into an anti-Soviet under him00:58:11
Hungary joined NATO but at the00:58:13
moment Budapest is delaying the ratification00:58:16
of Sweden and00:58:19
[music]00:58:25
Finland joining NATO Roma How out of a desire to00:58:29
please Moscow others I00:58:31
simply don’t have any explanations, even the government doesn’t00:58:34
motivate its00:58:35
decision in any way. Can we say that Putin is a00:58:38
popular politician in Hungary, much00:58:40
more popular than Paul than in the Czech Republic than00:58:45
usual? The Central Euro didn’t help with this.00:59:00
sovereignty00:59:02
respect for traditional values and the fact that00:59:06
Putin will show nothing, for example, to00:59:10
global global forces, many people00:59:13
like this, many people like the fact that,00:59:16
uh, Putin is based on the00:59:19
nation. Urban is also based on the nation. The question of00:59:23
ethnic Hungarians who live in the00:59:25
territory00:59:26
Can you say that this is a sore point00:59:28
for your country after after the00:59:32
law on language on education was adopted in Ukraine,00:59:36
after that00:59:39
relations between Hungary and00:59:43
Ukraine noticeably improved, the situation in education, the00:59:45
use of language is better than during the00:59:47
Soviet Union, the other00:59:50
day Mukachevo, in the00:59:53
Mukachevo region, the Wenge flags were removed, all00:59:58
Hungarian01:00:00
symbols of Hungarians were removed from Hungarian01:00:04
institutions, they were fired01:00:06
Hungarian01:00:10
school principals Yes, the tension really was01:00:13
just Moscow was very active in01:00:14
heating it up, it was the initiative of the mayor of01:00:17
the city, Mr. Bologim, the mayor carried out this01:00:20
action, which was more reminiscent of01:00:22
a coup, the Ukrainian government01:00:24
condemned this step, I will repeat this is a very01:00:27
delicate issue, the tension between01:00:30
Budapest and Kiev is easy to increase If01:00:32
we are talking about Hungarians in01:00:36
[music]01:00:41
Ukraine before February 24, many politicians01:00:44
went to Moscow almost to the01:00:46
bridesmaid ceremony, so Marine Lupine 2017, not long before the01:00:49
second round of the presidential election,01:00:51
meets with Vladimir Putin01:00:54
But the French far left at the01:00:58
Immortal Regiment rally in Moscow, here is Francois01:01:01
Fion, then he was prime minister - a minister during the01:01:03
time of Nicolas Sarkozy, however, he himself01:01:05
never became president, says my01:01:08
dear Vladimir Vladimi MUR riani, all of01:01:12
them and not only spoke out in01:01:14
support of Moscow, but after February 24 everything01:01:17
changed supporting the actions of01:01:19
Vladimir Putin became ma viton and01:01:23
significant politicians began to become unstuck from01:01:25
their connections with the Kremlin, however, those who are far01:01:28
from the political mainstream among them01:01:31
about the Russian sentiments of the Armed Forces still01:01:33
persist Francois Alenova gained01:01:36
just under01:01:39
1% of the votes in the 2017 press elections and he01:01:42
does not01:01:44
abandon his political ambitions. We are now defending the interests of01:01:47
other countries, primarily America and01:01:50
those whom I call the oligarchs billionaires01:01:53
are imposing on us through it01:01:57
does not correspond to the interests of France, our01:01:59
national interests were very accurately01:02:02
described by Charles De Gaulle, the last01:02:04
great French politician. He said01:02:06
that every time France was on01:02:08
good terms with Russia, these were01:02:11
great moments for our country, today01:02:14
France must do what De Gaulle01:02:16
made in01:02:18
1966 to defuse the situation to improve01:02:21
relations with Moscow the role of France to create01:02:24
balance in the world to take someone else's position01:02:27
sanctions should be lifted they harm not01:02:30
Russia but us the conclusion is not to supply weapons01:02:33
to Ukraine and do everything for a peace01:02:36
treaty in the office reinforced Ceremonial01:02:39
portrait of Charlie de Gaulle to he had a very01:02:42
special attitude, he was able to return France to its01:02:45
Former Greatness after the disastrous Second01:02:47
World War, he argued with America and even went to the01:02:49
USSR. Putin, for another, almost De01:02:53
Gaulle from01:02:54
the east, I think about Putin. This is what he01:02:58
has pros and cons, like each of us01:03:01
But one thing is important. I remember I came to the union in01:03:04
1985, I was 28 then after living01:03:08
in the west, it was a sad country,01:03:10
as if the inhabitants had no future, there were01:03:12
queues at the shops and Soviet people01:03:15
looked to the west with envy, but in01:03:17
2015 deputies from Sevastopol invited01:03:21
me to In Crimea, on the anniversary of the victory over01:03:22
Nazism, none of the French01:03:25
politicians were there anymore And this is a scandal They01:03:27
refused And I saw another01:03:30
free country Where people enjoy01:03:32
life I was in St. Petersburg in Moscow it01:03:35
was a country that had returned to normal01:03:37
life after a dark history Putin was able to01:03:40
unite the country and will remain in history01:03:42
as one of the great rulers of01:03:45
Russia then there are of course just people01:03:47
who are interested in Russia and here01:03:49
we can say that sometimes they felt01:03:50
quite lost because01:03:52
in France there is a certain01:03:54
Russophile01:03:55
and that is, there is an understanding that Russia01:03:57
is an important part of world culture there is a01:03:59
whole Layer of cultural ties and for01:04:01
some people, well, more important is01:04:04
Russia itself, its culture and its contribution to the01:04:07
world development of the RT Federal Tax Service - a significant01:04:10
instrument of Russian soft power on01:04:12
this Russophile For almost 5 years in January in the Republic of Tatarstan01:04:16
the Federal Tax Service announced that they were stopping broadcasting01:04:18
and had blocked the TV channel due to01:04:21
sanctions, the news and part of the broadcast are still01:04:23
available on the website. But in Europe, you01:04:26
can only get to it through a01:04:29
VPN; those who in France are called01:04:31
representatives of the Russian point of view01:04:33
on the air, Artie could speak out on01:04:36
any topic; he went there, not only about Selino; there01:04:39
were people there from ultra-right parties and01:04:41
others The problem is that they can be01:04:43
called full-fledged politicians. It’s difficult01:04:45
even in local elections they didn’t get01:04:48
more than 2% they are not politicians but rather01:04:51
influencers. Artie wanted to somehow increase01:04:54
their political weight to show that their01:04:56
position and views correspond to01:04:58
generally accepted facts of reality and01:05:01
often their statements turned out to be01:05:03
convenient for01:05:05
Moscow. I found an alternative to RT olino on01:05:11
social networks on YouTube. In a year I gained 7601:05:14
million views, but01:05:17
I wasn’t on the big French channels for a01:05:19
second, you hear. Not for a second, much more01:05:22
often, the mass French media burn01:05:26
supposedly Putin’s main rival but on the01:05:29
presidential elections, Mr. Navalny01:05:31
gained about a percent, like me in the01:05:33
European ones, but Alexei Navalny was not01:05:35
allowed to participate in the presidential elections Dada,01:05:39
but in some local elections in01:05:40
Russia he gained about 1% with a little,01:05:44
we don’t have fair access to the01:05:46
media in France,01:05:48
especially censorship on the issue of the conflict in01:05:51
Ukraine in France, we know it was01:05:53
registered01:05:54
only recently Yes, but it coincided that01:05:59
they were caught up in events that were01:06:01
very beneficial for them to promote such an01:06:04
agenda to destabilize the situation in01:06:06
France, that is, you were very active in 2018.01:06:10
In the nineteenth year, she covered01:06:12
the protests yellow01:06:17
vests behind the yellow vests action01:06:19
today is Saturday Here they again01:06:21
traditionally came out on the streets of Paris, here there are01:06:24
several hundred of them, of course the01:06:26
movement has lost the scale that it01:06:28
could boast of just a few years01:06:30
ago, which really was born01:06:32
to change France. But today here01:06:35
another slogan began to sound, this is01:06:37
a stop It01:06:40
is difficult to call the movement about arms supplies to Ukraine about Russian01:06:42
Although those here who understand the policies of Vladimir01:06:45
Putin, especially in his struggle with the West, have01:06:47
always01:06:50
been here, we are against France01:06:53
getting involved,01:06:55
we demand this, but people have01:06:57
different opinions on this matter, you must understand, we are01:06:59
not for Russia and not for It’s just that01:07:01
the money that goes to the supply of weapons is01:07:03
better used for Ukraine for the people for the01:07:05
needs of ordinary people, the Russians01:07:07
helped us both during the First and01:07:09
Second World Wars and why today01:07:12
should I be against them they always01:07:14
helped us they say that France was saved by the01:07:16
Americans but if you look in history, the01:07:19
East of Europe was liberated by01:07:24
Russian relations with Russia; many01:07:27
French politicians have not so much01:07:30
spontaneous sincere friendship as a01:07:32
strong aversion to the Americanization of01:07:34
our society, to the fact that the European01:07:37
security system is built01:07:39
around NATO, they are also irritated by01:07:42
some subordination to Washington, because of01:07:44
this they were friends with Moscow not only01:07:46
socialists but also right-wing republicans01:07:49
representatives of many parties Take01:07:52
François Fn the former prime minister01:07:55
sat on the Board of Directors of a Russian01:07:57
company I don’t want to be the devil’s advocate01:08:00
but after February 24 he resigned from his01:08:04
post the issue of Moscow money has01:08:06
always been inconvenient for French politicians01:08:08
co-chairman of the association01:08:10
Franco Russian dialogue Seri Mariani01:08:13
according to you Lemont is in the center of01:08:15
attention of the French authorities he is01:08:17
suspected of breach of trust and01:08:20
money laundering Marie Lupine in 201401:08:24
received a loan from the first Czech01:08:27
bank in the amount of more than 9 million euros his01:08:30
party is still paying back when everything was01:08:36
legal work former Western politicians01:08:39
in Russian business - this is a separate01:08:41
topic, now there is much more talk about01:08:44
how Moscow supports its01:08:46
assets in01:08:47
Europe, there are several investigations where it is01:08:50
alleged that you01:08:53
were paid to the organizers and the01:08:56
motor rally by the Russian Russian01:08:58
state if there was money there would not be01:09:00
a motor rally there was a huge march to Berlin I01:09:03
think that the Russian Field is cooperation and there01:09:07
are connections with those who01:09:10
organized these motor rally here. But I do01:09:13
n’t think that there is Russian influence, say,01:09:16
on political parties01:09:19
or even the left or the AfD, they01:09:23
financed some trips to01:09:27
Russia or Crimea, but direct01:09:31
the financing of these01:09:34
Putin, I rule out this is probable and there is also01:09:39
individual evidence that some01:09:41
groups received tens01:09:44
or hundreds of thousands of euros and01:09:47
people01:09:50
receive None,01:09:54
it seems to reinforce but01:09:57
[music]01:10:04
is not significant I do not01:10:06
identify Russia with what the01:10:09
Vagnes group will do there now there are01:10:13
different Russias, Russia too And where01:10:16
they speak Russian, that means diaspora,01:10:18
immigration is also Russia and in this01:10:21
sense Russia, let’s say, remains a cultural01:10:26
space. I honestly don’t01:10:29
know what to think. Honestly, I01:10:32
ask myself a question about this. What would I like, uh,01:10:37
not to touch Russia please This is my01:10:39
love forever literally01:10:45
[music]01:10:54
forever01:10:56
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18+ НАСТОЯЩИЙ МАТЕРИАЛ (ИНФОРМАЦИЯ) ПРОИЗВЕДЕН, РАСПРОСТРАНЕН И (ИЛИ) НАПРАВЛЕН ИНОСТРАННЫМ АГЕНТОМ ПИВОВАРОВЫМ АЛЕКСЕЕМ ВЛАДИМИРОВИЧЕМ ЛИБО КАСАЕТСЯ ДЕЯТЕЛЬНОСТИ ИНОСТРАННОГО АГЕНТА ПИВОВАРОВА АЛЕКСЕЯ ВЛАДИМИРОВИЧА В современном немецком языке есть слово «путинферштеер» — буквально переводится как «понимающий Путина». Так в Европе называют людей, поддерживающих политику Кремля. Их, конечно, не большинство, но их голос слышен: во-первых, потому что их любят цитировать российские государственные СМИ, а во-вторых, потому что на родине они стали своего рода диссидентами. Европейские СМИ называют их агентами Кремля и намекают, что они действуют не бесплатно. Мы решили поближе познакомиться с этими людьми — кто они? И что именно они «поняли»? Содержание: 00:00 — Кто такие putinverstehers? 02:25 — Почему русские немцы решили устроить пророссийский автопробег? 07:30 — Как Елена Колбасникова из Украины координирует акции в поддержку России? 16:00 — Почему так много русских и немцев в Германии поддерживают политику Путина? 19:39 — Политолог Александр Рар об отсутствии европейской дипломатии с Россией 23:36 — Как в Германии работает «пророссийский» журнал и сталкиваются ли его сотрудники с неприятностями? 26:12 — Зачем правые немецкие политики хотели поехать на Донбасс? 27:55 — Как работают пророссийские партии в Германии и какие у их политиков аргументы? 38:13 — Что сербы знают о России? 41:01 — Чем занимается русско-сербский центр «Орлы»? 42:17 — Вербует ли ЧВК «Вагнер» добровольцев в Сербии? 44:54 — Что происходит с граффити Владимира Путина в центре Белграда? 47:42 — Зачем в Сербии канал «RT на Балканах»? 49:45 — Почему Владимир Путин так популярен в Сербии? 53:31 — Косово и Украина: какие параллели проводят сербы 58:31 — Можно ли назвать премьер-министра Венгрии пророссийским политиком? 01:02:35 — Почему именитые французские политики до 24 февраля так часто ездили в Москву и какая здесь экономическая связь? 01:05:56 — Как и с кем работают во Франции российские СМИ? 01:10:26 — Финансирование пророссийских активистов на Западе: правда или измышления? 01:12:26 — «Не трогайте Россию, это моя любовь навсегда!» Фото с обложки: Michael Matthey / dpa / picture-alliance Верная должность Стевана Гайича: доктор политических наук, научный сотрудник Института европейских исследований в Белграде и приглашенный профессор МГИМО. Поддержать «Редакцию»: 💰 из России — через сервис Boosty: https://boosty.to/redakciya 💰 из-за рубежа — через функцию «Спонсорство» в YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1eFXmJNkjITxPFWTy6RsWg/join 👉 Мерч «Редакции» на «Мам, купи!»: https://mamcupy.com/catalog/redaktsiya/ 👉 Мерч «Редакции» на Ozon: https://www.ozon.ru/highlight/redaktsiya-outlet-merch-780645/ 👉 Мерч «Редакции» на Wildberries: https://www.wildberries.ru/brands/mam-kupi Подписывайтесь на наши социальные сети: Телеграм-канал «Редакции»: https://t.me/redakciya_channel «Редакция» в «Дзене»: https://dzen.ru/redakciya «Редакция» в «ВК»: https://vk.com/redakciya_pivovarova Твиттер Алексея Пивоварова: https://twitter.com/pivo_varov Канал «Редакции» в вайбере: https://vb.me/redakcia_yt «Редакция» в «Одноклассниках»: https://ok.ru/redakciya Сотрудничество и идеи: [email protected] По вопросам рекламы: [email protected]
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