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Marcel: Welcome to a special episode of guitar Warehouse! Today we followed the invitation of our friend Paul Landers,
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because he wanted to show us his brand new PL1 Fly Rig pedal made by Tech 21.
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A very nice piece of equipment producing very nice sounds as well. Paul: Yep!
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So thanks a lot for having us, there hasn't been a ton of information on this new pedal so far, but that's why we're here today ...
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It's the PL1 Fly Rig by Tech 21.
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Paul: Well said. So see you all next time and have a nice day. (laughs)
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Marcel: Tell us something about the story behind your Fly-Rig-Version. You’ve been playing SansAmp in the past.
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There is a mutual history between you and Tech 21 that goes way back …
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Paul: I’m pretty straight forward with stuff like this. I only do things that I like and approve of.
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I try to prevent any kind of endorsements, because very often it get’s you in conflicts with things, that you did not actually want to do in the first place.
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And then you are not a hundred percent behind it. I pretty much played SansAmp from the get go. I think back then I started with the PSA 1 Models –
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and that was sometime around the 18th century, I guess.
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I am the type of guy that doesn’t like amps that much, or amplifiers don’t like me. Amps never felt right for me.
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They either sounded too grumpy or too edgy or whatever.
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When I then played through a SansAmp for the first time – it was a revelation.
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Marcel: … the GT2?
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Paul: Nay, the PSA 1! That was the rack-format one. Later I discovered the GT2, that I even liked a bit better …
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especially that one tweak … from then on I played the SansAmp for a while …
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Then I switched for some time to a digital emulation ...
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… until one day I picked up the GT2 again … and the sun came up again.
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I don't wanna bash emulations in general, they're great. Maybe it was just the level that was a little higher. Anyways … I love the sound of the GT2.
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Because first it has it’s own characteristic sound ...
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and second it matches great with the tube-sound Richard uses. That is a good matching combination.
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Long story short: When Stefan from Sound Service asked me, if I’d be interested in having my own pedal I immediatly said yes.
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Because you cannot get it better than that. And from than on it didn’t take very long …
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… just three years, nine to eleven prototypes and ready it was.
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Traveling, writing, vacations, hotel, the jam room - all of that is possible with the Fly Rig. That is why I really dig the size of it.
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I always tell the guys at Tech 21 to take a picture with a hand right next to it. Just to show how small it is.
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’cause everybody always says: Wow! That’s pretty small! You might get the impression that it is a huge pedal, but it’s not.
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Wait, check this out …
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It’s very tiny … … and if you hold it back there, it’s even smaller.
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Everything I need is built in that pedal. There is a tuner, a headphone output, a good clean sound, a good main sound for me, a delay - I do not need more.
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Sometimes I drive to Kapstadt with Olli and in the past I had to travel with unhandy cases. Now it’s easier. As soon as I have an idea, I just go and record it.
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Marcel: So you’re saying that you can put the PL1 in front of an amp, run it through send/return or into a PA-System as well as directly into a recording software.
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It seems to be very versatile in terms of operating …
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Paul: I have to confess that I never ran that thing in front of an amp, because I simply do not do that.
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The Fly Rigs standalone sound is great as is. An amp would rather make it worse. But that is just my opinion.
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There are probably a lot of people, who would run the Fly Rig in front of their amps, but I have no experience with that.
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I just think it's great to be able to run it directly into a mixer, computer or PA-system.
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Maybe I'm just lazy, but actually no!
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Why make the guitar sound so unnecessarily complicated?
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… through the amp, than a microfone and a cabinet - that’s too many components … when I tweak an amp, it always gets worse
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Marcel: While we’re talking about your sound, it’s also important to mention that the PL1 not only recreates your sound in particular.
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It also provides a vast range of sound-options for any kind of rock- and metal-guitarist, right?
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Paul: Absolutely! It may look a little Rammstein-like, but it provides a huge range of different sounds.
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Starting with a clean-sound that is quiet similar to a Jazz Chorus – very clean.
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As an addition to that there is the BITE-Button, through which the clean sound breaks up a little more … if you strumm a little harder …
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Paul: Then you have the FEUER-channel. Where you can dial down the gain and the volume-poti on your guitar, in order to get a crunch sound –
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I personally hate crunch sounds, but it’s possible. And because it’s analogue it sounds cool.
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And then you of course have the option to really crank the drive right up there to the max.
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Paul: I thought it was important, that every poti actually has an effect on the sound.
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Simply because there are so many pedals out there, where potis do not have an effective influence on the colour of a sound.
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Here you can really dial in your own musical taste.
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So I encourage people to use every poti in even the most extreme settings, because it's all usable.
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For me it was very important to have a negative boost within the PL1. Simply because I like the option to be able to step back in the mix, while playing a verse.
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Paul: Same with the positive boost and the Mid-boost option – just to make sure, that you cut through the mix.
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I also really wanted a low-cut implemented, I think it's around 50 Hz
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So now you can turn the Bass, the "Low", up without getting the sound all muffled up
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If we're honest: No guitarist needs those bass-frequencies
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Every FOH or sound-engineer who knows his business will right away cut all basses from the guitarists mix for good – but he won’t tell the guitarist (laughs)
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…and I wanted to make sure that the delay has a warm analogue character to it
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Marcel: That surprised me. Because I would have never guessed you would pick an anologue one in the first place … but it kinda makes sense, since it’s an anlogue pedal.
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Paul: Well … I have to explain this a little more. I could just agree with you and say yes,
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but quiet frankly this is actually an analog emulation.
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Because although the analog path goes straight through, we take a turn on a parallel path which is a digital delay that simulates an analogue delay.
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Marcel: Another suprise - at least to me - was the incorporation of a Vibrato.
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Paul: Yeah right, we didn't actually show that now ...
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... that came about since the chip that handles the Delay also does Vibrato.
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So we figured it would be stupid not to use the function as well.
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Especially since it does a great job of making a happy-sparkly clean-sound just that little bit darker-sounding.
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Another important effect-tweak would be the „ambience“-switch. The ambience-huge-switch provides a pretty big room-sound.
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It sounds a bit like singing in the barthroom … It’s nice to have it, when your’re just playing by yourself.
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Just to make the sound bigger and wider than you’d actually do for a real live-situation.
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Marcel: Is it comparable to an "amp in the room" kind of sound?
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Paul: No, I’d rather say „bathroom effect“ … it just makes it overall sound bigger, than it actually is …
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Marcel: You were talking about playing live, that's very interesting since you really use these Fly Rigs on stage.
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You went through several prototypes, asked for the opinions of all kinds of people.
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Paul: I liked the idea of Rammstein being this larger-than-life musical institution or whatever, ...
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... and I'm playing those big concerts with my little Fly Rig.
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Just me being able to brag about that was reason enough to do it.
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And of course it was important to gather every input possible.
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You know how it is with the search for the perfect guitar sound: Most players never find theirs.
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I'm still looking for it myself. So testing the Fly Rig live was absolutely essential.
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For example: Initially its sound was even more aggressive.
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I actually liked that pretty much, but it was just to much for our live-setup.
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Marcel: Did you talk to your FOH about your new setup as well?
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Of course. We often record our shows - directly from the board to ProTools.
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So afterwards you can go listen to it and kinda go: Well that's maybe a little much right there or whatever.
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Additionally I have the GT2-track to compare it to.
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Marcel: So how did communication with Tech 21 work?
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Paul: That's where Stefan comes into play again, who did a great job of being the middle-man so to speak.
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He explained what I wanted to Tech 21, almost better than I explained it to him. (laughs)
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But we always had a vision. I knew what I wanted: My GT2 with an improved Mid-control
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We send a lot of sound snippets back and forth. I even recorded a completely dry signal of my guitar and send it to New York, for them to immidiatly test around with.
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But after prototype number 9 or so they just kinda went: ,"Well Paul, we think it's enough now ... (laughs)
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... It sound great, let's keep that one." Because I would have kept testing and tweaking, since there's always something to optimize.
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So I kinda started to feel bad for them and left it at that.
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I mean it's not rocket science, it's just a cool pedal, so at some point I had to just call it a day.
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Marcel: So what does Richard think about it?
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Paul: We actually don't talk about our work all that much.
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We talk about personal stuff a lot and about music, too. But not really about our guitar sound or anything like that.
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I'm just realizing this now. Kinda strange, it's almost like a taboo.
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I know he plays tube-amps, ...
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... maybe he knows I play SansAmp. But as far as "Hey, how do you handle this and that?" That's not happening.
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Marcel: So did you use the Fly Rig for any recordings yet?
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Paul: Yes, it was there during pre-production, as we were working on new songs, in the studio as well.
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I'm talking prototypes of course.
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Marcel: Pretty brave to not only use it for rehearsals or whatever, but actually for recording new material.
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Paul: Well I don't know about brave ... it was really useful, because what we would do is ...
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... record a few tracks, gather everyone in one room, play it to them and just collect opinions.
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So I used it in the studio precisely to move the development of the Fly Rig along.
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My Fly Rig contains two SansAmp:
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One for clean, one for distortion - just like two channels on an amp.
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That was all part of development that just started as a rough idea on my part, ...
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... with no idea how doable that would be.
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Marcel: The two channels being called WASSER for clean and FEUER for distortion by the way.
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Paul: Yeah well, it still gets the point across ... At least I hope so.
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The distortion component in this Fly Rig has nothing in common with the other Fly Rigs, you know.
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Because the other Fly Rigs almost sound like an amp. If I’d wanted to have that kinda sound, I would actually play an amp.
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I really dig the unique technical approach of the GT2. That it actually does sound special and got it’s own sound characteristic.
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Marcel: Paul, thanks a lot for having us ...
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... thanks for showing us your PL1 Fly Rig ...
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... ahem, thanks.
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Paul: Here have at it.
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Marcel: OK

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Paul Landers von Rammstein ist bekannt für seinen Sound-Pragmatismus. Wie der in Pauls Signature-Fly-Rig PL1 von Tech 21 umgesetzt wurde, erzählt er uns und euch im ausführlichen guitar-Gear-Interview. Den Test findet ihr in guitar-Ausgabe 11/18: https://www.ppvmedien.de/Guitar-11-2018-Printausgabe-oder-PDF-Download https://www.guitar.de/ https://www.facebook.com/guitarmagazin/ Spanish subtitles done by LIFAD CHILE Fanclub

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