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[music]

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Good evening on the air project One for all

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My name is Dmitry Korpachv in only

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true stories that will not leave anyone

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indifferent

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they have to

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drag their one-month-old son Bohdanchyk alone, because

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the beloved ran away only to find out about her

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pregnancy. That's how nobody needs us, we

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are left

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together and what awaits us tomorrow, I don't know.

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You have me, and I have you.

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What is happening to

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Marina? There is not a roof over her head, not a

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single close person in the whole

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world. Her mother was deprived of parental rights, and her

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father and stepmother kicked out a

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pregnant girl from home. And only for a

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while, Marina was given shelter by volunteers from the

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Mother and Child Center. We took her from

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the bus station. the girl was sitting in the corner with

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one cake in her hands, there were tears

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in her eyes, she was as if she was afraid of everything, she

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was afraid that they would find her, she was afraid that her

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father would find her, her father could beat her, he just couldn't do it.

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neighbors and teachers and even the best

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friend. That's why Marina insisted that she wants to

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pass the lie detector and prove to all of

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Ukraine that she really survived

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this whole nightmare. Did your father ever

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tie you to the bed? of

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Marina's conflict with her father. And he himself

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will come to the meeting with his daughter only in

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order to accuse her of lying. Who among

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them is really a liar?

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We will be

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helped by guests and experts in the studio.

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Ukrainian artist Olga

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Sumskaya, TV presenter Valery Oslavsky,

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actress and TV presenter Svetlana

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Valnova TV journalist Konstantin

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Hrubych and our permanent experts,

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psychologist Anna Kushneruk and lawyer Mikhail

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Prysiazhnyuk, volunteer of the mother and

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child center, Maryna Khmel grew up in a

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foster family and knows very well what the

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betrayal of parents is. That's why

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she so resolutely rushed to save a

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young disabled mother.

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applause]

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take a seat How did you meet

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Marina through the hotline, she called

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me every evening for 3 weeks in a row,

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cried and said Help me please, I have

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nowhere to go I am pregnant for the

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next month, I am an

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invalid, you know how we don't know

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what to do, let's say come on, Marinochka you

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will take all the tests, she says that I don't

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need to take the tests, I'm pregnant,

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everything is fine with me, please take me, I

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can't take it anymore. How did she call you?

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I could live, I don't need my mother, I do

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n't need my dad, I'm talking. Well, what is the

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reason why my mother refused me a

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long time ago, and my father doesn't need me, he's married, I'm not

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needed there in that family, I'm not needed a

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week later, the decision was made to define

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her. to the house of my mother and children. We took her from

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the bus station. She says, "I can't walk very well.

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I went to her. She had a bag, and

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in the bag were panties, socks, and socks.

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She cried a lot. She says, "I'm afraid

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that the child will be taken from me. It was her

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only. Don't give the child away. Tell

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my parents. Where do you understand that

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I was afraid? Someone threatened her.

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She ended up in the hospital. The doctors kept

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saying, Marina, give the child. You

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won't be able to put him back on his feet. You're

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disabled. What do you think, she'll be

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able to take care of the child, of course,

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you know. we have many mothers at the center, there are

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such cases that mothers do not need children,

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mothers are healthy, and Marina, looking at her, at a

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girl who can barely move, she does not

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let the child down. You understand that a

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disabled person loves her child so much. I

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think she is the best mother.

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that she is not needed by her

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parents, have you tried to find them

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in order to find out if this is

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really the case? When the girl said that her

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mother was deprived of parental rights, as it were.

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The phone was on all the time, so why

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should I look for these parents?

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it's terrible, she talked about what was

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happening at her house, raska Yes, when

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dad was not there, mom could hit her, well, stepmother

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could hit Marina, and she said, you

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will live by my rules,

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here are the cards, here is this disability,

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her dad had no money, everything was

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taken from her you will fulfill my conditions,

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no, I'm with you, because my house

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was tied to the battery by the father,

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so my mother sat on the high chair and watched the

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stepmother shake me like a normal woman.

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it's not normal that she

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talked about the father of her future child, his

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name is Sasha, it happened that she got

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pregnant from him and she didn't

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want an abortion, but Sasha insisted on an

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abortion Sasha was with her When the

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girl got pregnant, respectively, Sasha

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refused, did you try to find Sasha, no,

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we didn't try Why Because she didn't

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want it, look. I understand

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that you can't feed both children,

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unlike alimony. It's at least some kind of

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help if he took part in the conception of

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this child, so it would be

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good if he gave birth. Further, we

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called you

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with Where is his newborn? the child and he

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is looking for her now, well, maybe that’s what I’m saying,

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I doubt it. And if he

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is looking for her, he would have found her a long time ago.

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change This man must

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probably offend me very much, then he will offend me

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so that I can run away from him, that's what we're

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talking about. We don't know what happened.

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Tell me, did you find out what happened to the

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school? As far as I know, she had a

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bad relationship.

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her words, but no matter how in the

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school, the changelings loved everyone, she says that

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papa has disgraced me everywhere, disgraced me,

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what does disgraced mean? Well, I don’t know what disgraced means, she says

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you are disabled, you are not needed by anyone, he

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insulted her constantly.

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A person who speaks like this

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about his child will most likely

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embarrass himself today in our

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studio class teacher Maryna

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Lyubov Vladimirovna

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when Marynochka came to us, probably

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like all of you in the studio, we wanted to

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warm this child somehow help

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support protect this child We

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wrapped her really forgotten and disturbed by the

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handle, they pulled her into the dining room. She was eating her food,

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they were covering her at the dining table because

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she cannot walk well if she is not

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off the plate.

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she

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studied there with us, well, for two weeks maybe.

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West in the department stores, the salesmen ran up to

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me and with such aggression they almost

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beat me, you take away a scholarship from a child.

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Where is your conscience, how can you do

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such a child? Poor disabled person, I say. But

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she does not have a scholarship, we only we

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still prepare the documents and submit them to the bank, the

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bank opens the account and then

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the accounting department transfers the money to the bank, she

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herself will withdraw the money from you,

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they told me Marina came to

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us in the department store, she sat down here, she

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started crying that the class teacher is

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taking her away, she does not have a scholarship why did

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they start to live there and carry her clothes and who

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brought her food? Well, they already

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told me that she was

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just causing

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poverty in this way. she

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has a battery, but her father does

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n't give her a scholarship, the educational institution gives her a scholarship,

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but she decided that she is a class teacher,

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so they will believe her more, you say

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that she was kicked out of the dormitory,

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no one kicked her out of the dormitory, we kept her until

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the last, I asked for her, Marynochka, if

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you don't it is difficult for you to walk because you are

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pregnant and it is difficult for you to walk, let's

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lie in the dormitory, we will come to visit

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you,

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we will bring you food, well, master Olga

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Yospivna She brought food to this child in the

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room, she fed her, she knew that she

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had given birth. I'm calling her

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Marynochka Come on, we'll take you to the

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hostel Of course you can't get

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there yourself, the director is going to Vinnytsia, I'll

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ask him, he won't say no, we'll take you

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She says I'll drink and pee today I

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have an aunt, I'll stay a little at your aunt's and then I'll

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call you back and let the director

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come and pick me up, then the children and I

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will talk. I tell the girls, let's

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make something for Marina, buy something there,

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and they say, "We packed a

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whole bag of things for her, she left it in

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the dormitory, Marina will call her when

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you pick up the things, and she says that you can

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throw them away, I don't need them, imagine how

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offensive it was for the children who tried to

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collect them there, well, in our country, the children from not

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rich families brought her that coat, their

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skirt, and she said, you can

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throw them away, I don't need them. I have everything. Here

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we are. Now we get to know the other side of

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Marina, due to the circumstances that have

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now appeared, the question arises: did

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her father tie her to the battery and

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did he take money from her? He said that

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she does not know how to manage

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her money properly. It was in

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our director's office. The director told her parents to

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give her back. the cards are used. Well, the

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parents pulled out these cards. She was there for a

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pension and for a scholarship, and her parents in the

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director's office gave her both cards. A

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year has passed.

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we call the parents because if

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the child is not there, we immediately start

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calling through the children, we are already starting to

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find out who she was talking to, she

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went to the baptismal font to Galina's, we left the

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baptismal font, her parents took her, brought her

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and they say that you just don't let her go to the

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baptismal font again, because it's trouble I'm her in that

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house, well, not there, yes, my friend, so let's

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ask here, my friend Galina, who

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lives in this Khristinovka and to whom

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Marina used to go in general.

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day in and day out at school, we talked with her,

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she knew practically everything about me,

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she talked about herself,

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told about her parents, that they

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control her very much, that they

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said that her father really beats her.

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I got the

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impression that she is hiding somewhere, speaks

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dishonestly, invents something,

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my uncle wanted to have a relationship with her,

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she didn't really want to be with him, but

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since she asked him for money for a

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phone, even though she spent it on something completely

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different, she

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started to go to him too And how

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old is the uncle, 35 or 36 Well, here

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I used the opportunity that he has money, how do

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you like the new image of Marina, your

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ward?

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somewhere from

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everything she ran away from everyone, you don't

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get the impression that

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Marina can be a person

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who survives because of the fact that everyone is

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facing each other's foreheads.

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Tell me, I

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also have a family, a mother and a father, and I also have a

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father who has adopted me for years, but I do

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n’t run away from

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him. Let’s find out how

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Marina herself explains this, maybe she will

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help clarify who she is,

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or indeed a victim of circumstances

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Marina

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vergles Hello Marina

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[music]

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we are here to help you

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help your child but I have heard a

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lot of such conflicting stories and it is

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not very clear to me Here are you really a

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person who has a hard time or are you a person

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who brazenly lies here is what

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your class teacher

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said about the fact that you lied to her in front of the

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salespeople in the store that she

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took your scholarship from you She

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told the truth It wasn't like that,

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I just went to the store and me

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more scholarship That is,

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I didn't take the cards, so the scholarship at the

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moment I'm talking about I don't

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receive

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money, sell it for a class

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teacher, I didn't say a word, I

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assume that they could hear something of

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their own Well, your class

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teacher talked about how you

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collected things And you said I don't need

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these things, you can throw them away. Well, I did

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n't say that. I just asked

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you if you need something. I said that I have

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everything. That is, I was already

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in the center at the moment, so who

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knew what I had I didn't start

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telling all about the problems, I just said that I'm

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at my aunt's house, everything's fine, my

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aunt supports me, everything's good, did you get

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kicked out of the hostel or no, no, I was in

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the hostel until the ninth month. It

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would be impossible to stay with the child because it is impossible.

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Your class teacher says

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that it is possible. They were happy to pick you up,

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Mary. Tell me, did you come up with this story about being kicked

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out of the dormitory so

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that they would be taken to this center, yes, to be

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taken to this center? This is

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logical, because in the center the workers would

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say, Well, go to the hostel, you came to us

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then, let’s just deal with

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it. What kind of stories did you

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make up?

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I felt older there. Well, it all

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started with the fact that I started having

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conflicts with my father, he started

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telling me that you are disabled, you are there

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without me, you are

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nobody at all. Instead of his support, I felt

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humiliated, insulted, and understood

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that he did not need me.

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stepmother, she constantly felt

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sorry for me, too, I got it

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naturally because he listened to her, got it,

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what does it mean, I was a Rem, I used to give back

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pads

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How old were you when you were Rem

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17-16 years old and before that when you were

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little I was little when I was I

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vaguely remember my childhood

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because my mother and I

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broke up. I was only an hour old. My mother

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took me to Krym. And then at the age of 4, he

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took me back to his place because my

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mother somehow ended up in a prison

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after that. I saw my mother. very rarely,

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if I saw her, I saw her in a drunken

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state. It was somewhere in the village or

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near a store. Until I was 13 years old, I lived

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with my aunt and grandmother. Tell me,

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when you were nine months

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pregnant, did you decide to meet your

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mother? there was this meeting, I went to

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see her there in Krym, of course,

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she called first. Yes, come.

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Yes, I will support you. Everything will be good. I will

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meet you myself in the end. I am

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already going. I already knew that you were

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pregnant. It was Mom, and here you are. I'm coming. I

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'm coming. I'm already on the bus. I'm calling her

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already.

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says I work for

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3 days and 3 days I am at home, how will I have

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a day off I will come and take you to my place

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one working day has passed, her day off has passed she is

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already coming for the last day off she

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saw me says I have tomorrow to

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work says while you will be at your aunt's I

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say you I will pick up, that is, in 6 years,

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you had such a meeting, mother came

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on the third day. Yes, the result ended with what

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they said. You are going back, you want to

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reconcile with your father, you want to, that is, you

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reconcile with your father, you called the

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biological father of the child,

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the biological father of the child after

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I I told my husband that I was pregnant, he

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just, as you know, fell through the earth.

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I didn't know where he was, that

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is, he changed his phone. You

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couldn't call him the number

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I had. He was constantly disconnected. I didn't

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know where he was. How many times have you seen each other? with

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him We saw each other I came to Hale We

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saw each other Well, at most a month, I'm going to the

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third course, I'm studying, I'm going to the

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hospital, I'm getting a physical examination, I know that I'm

00:18:28

pregnant already on the 17th week,

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Oh, I didn't get better, I didn't feel nauseous, I had my

00:18:34

period, that's possible, that's what

00:18:37

they said and the doctors didn't know that I was

00:18:39

pregnant there already when I arrived after the ultrasound.

00:18:43

That was my last conversation with him. Do

00:18:45

n't be afraid. You can give birth there. I'll

00:18:47

support you. I'll help you. I'll go to

00:18:50

sleep.

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he answers

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in the evening, I already started calling, the phone

00:18:58

was already turned off, that is, he lulled your

00:19:00

vigilance and disappeared, what was preventing you from

00:19:03

gathering your things to go, he will talk face

00:19:05

to face, this is a fairly serious

00:19:07

question.

00:19:12

it was to go, where does

00:19:14

he live, I think so because of mutual

00:19:18

acquaintances, not because of Galya, we have another

00:19:20

mutual acquaintance with him, he is a friend of his,

00:19:23

I contacted him, well, through the Internet, he is

00:19:25

like, and Sasha is not in Khristinovka. I was

00:19:31

jealous because for some

00:19:34

period Dima and Dima did not give me peace of mind.

00:19:38

Who is this her uncle? I communicated with him

00:19:41

at first glance, a normal,

00:19:44

adequate person, but then I learned his

00:19:47

real age because he

00:19:49

told me that he was 25 years old and he was I

00:19:51

'm really sorry, she turned out to be 35 and he

00:19:54

looks so good, or do you

00:19:56

understand

00:19:57

men so poorly? I understood that this is an uncle

00:20:00

who is 30 and something years old. Yes, and Sasha, they

00:20:03

were at the same time or something. In

00:20:06

short, who is the father of Sasha's child with Smoke

00:20:09

I didn't have anything at all None

00:20:13

at all And how old is Sasha 28, again, according to

00:20:17

his words 28 Yes, of course I did not check the documents

00:20:21

Sasha is actually 34 years old, we

00:20:26

found Sasha quite simply and this is how

00:20:29

Sasha's wife reacted to your story

00:20:33

let's sleep

00:20:37

Mom, you are from I used to walk with Marina when I was in the

00:20:39

maternity hospital, and the

00:20:44

head is

00:20:52

manalaconically, but everything

00:20:55

is clear,

00:20:57

since there are four

00:21:01

children in the house, tell me, did you have the opportunity

00:21:04

to talk to him after this, Today we

00:21:07

will give you such an opportunity

00:21:08

because he is in our

00:21:11

studio. Hello, Alexander, please take

00:21:15

the microphone.

00:21:18

I congratulate you, in

00:21:20

some sense, a father-hero. Well, the problem is

00:21:23

that it’s not my children, but the children of your wife, yes,

00:21:28

well. But she was lying in the hospital with

00:21:32

your child, no, not all of them. This is

00:21:35

Santa Barbara, of course. And you can find out.

00:21:37

Why do you need a woman who has not just

00:21:40

four children, but the one who is still pregnant with the

00:21:43

fifth child is also not from you, since my

00:21:45

grandmother died, I didn't know where to go, so for the time being, we took care of

00:21:48

her, for the time being,

00:21:50

in the sense of

00:21:53

taking care of ourselves so as not to become the sixth

00:21:55

child, and here the sixth one, somehow, a man

00:21:59

went to take care of her a pregnant woman with

00:22:01

four children. And you, what a cat, what kind of woman

00:22:03

brought him, why, why

00:22:07

was she doing something wrong, she considers you a

00:22:10

common-law husband, well, of course, and now

00:22:13

you understand. Yes, this is all the

00:22:16

maternal stuff in your address. It’s not

00:22:21

simple, just that I couldn’t find it

00:22:24

Marina's number stopped at no. And

00:22:27

you couldn't find the number, no, because my

00:22:29

phone was drowned.

00:22:31

There, one boy will tell you. Did you and

00:22:34

Marina have any mutual

00:22:36

acquaintances? Well, for example, Galya was there. That is,

00:22:41

you could come to Galya and ask

00:22:43

Galya give me

00:22:45

Maria's number. And what did you know at all about Marina, where does

00:22:49

she study, where does she live, yes, yes,

00:22:53

and why didn't they start looking for her there?

00:23:01

I saw the guy, but if we call her back,

00:23:04

she'll be allowed to go out, okay. This is how

00:23:07

you generally reacted to the fact that you are

00:23:09

now a real dad from the normal

00:23:12

side, that you have absolutely no paternal

00:23:15

feelings for the child. This is your child, so

00:23:18

let's ask Sasha, did you have feelings for

00:23:20

Marina? feeling you Why did you

00:23:23

lie about your age, I didn't lie, I said

00:23:27

34, you talked about your real age,

00:23:30

Sasha, you told me you are 28 years old, you said

00:23:33

that you have an older brother who is 34, a

00:23:36

man's concessions determine everything, and

00:23:39

here age is what you learned about the child, you did not

00:23:41

take care of you didn't come to this child,

00:23:43

you didn't

00:23:44

help, you understand the stupidity of a man at 34

00:23:47

at 28 commits irresponsibility, that's the

00:23:50

mother of your child, what will she do?

00:24:05

you offer the mother of your

00:24:08

child to stay with her further How did you

00:24:11

plan to take the child there to you to

00:24:13

this woman

00:24:14

who doesn't have any after we finish

00:24:17

the filming Are you ready to go to Zaks and

00:24:21

agree Even in

00:24:24

Zaks it's good you

00:24:27

want right here this here is

00:24:31

what I only saw

00:24:35

two things, Sasha, then I have a question for you. And you

00:24:38

need a child. Will you pretend to be a child? Well, I won’t, of course.

00:24:59

and you make a proposal to this girl without

00:25:02

pretending to be your own child Olya he

00:25:04

doesn't propose I

00:25:06

proposed to him Olya God I'm in shock I'm just in

00:25:09

shock I'm hearing this for the first time, what kind of

00:25:12

man are you, you're just not a man, he's not needed

00:25:16

for him, he's not needed he gets married. That's

00:25:18

how guys like that, they just take

00:25:21

such gullible girls to them and then

00:25:23

disappear, then it turns out that he lives with a

00:25:25

woman who has four children, and

00:25:28

because of that, there are a lot of

00:25:29

contradictory stories from your side. I

00:25:33

would like us to put an end

00:25:35

to that now who is the father of the child Ugu Marina

00:25:39

specially passed the lie detector in order to

00:25:47

prove to us viewers that she is telling

00:25:51

the truth the father of your child is Oleksandr

00:25:54

Lahoda yes the answer is probably yes and it is

00:25:59

clear

00:26:02

[music]

00:26:05

the truth I congratulate you Oleksandr you

00:26:10

will pay child support былы вместе

00:26:13

Sasha Now you're saying such things, you

00:26:16

're sitting around like

00:26:17

this

00:26:20

Olya He's living with another woman, don't

00:26:23

break the

00:26:27

family

00:26:29

[music]

00:26:37

And on your knee How is this So, what are you, my God, how is this

00:26:44

strange, you wonder, I wonder, Yes, I don't

00:26:48

wonder anything. yes, they are making a proposal in the

00:26:51

suburbs now

00:26:53

[music] come on,

00:26:58

Marina, will you marry me or not?

00:27:17

son, you really want him to

00:27:20

raise a child. This man is

00:27:23

for families to be together. Mom,

00:27:26

dad, and

00:27:27

the child scolded themselves. That's how a person

00:27:30

worthy of the right to raise a

00:27:34

child. Sash, sit down. Sasha, you now

00:27:37

understand what Dmytro

00:27:40

Karpachev is talking about. Why are you silent, why aren't you?

00:27:44

you protect your Marina, your child, your

00:27:47

position as a man, why are you silent, how come I do

00:27:50

n’t know who I’ll think about, I’ll sit down, what will you

00:27:52

think, little girl, what will you

00:27:57

think, you can

00:28:00

go back to dad, I heard that he and his current

00:28:03

wife, your stepmother,

00:28:05

treated you quite cruelly, that’s how it turns out

00:28:07

This is the conflict. When the last time they

00:28:11

wanted me with the police, that is, she

00:28:14

told me that if you don't

00:28:16

do as you do, that is, as I tell you, that

00:28:20

is, you will. Live by my rules,

00:28:22

that will not happen. As you want, my

00:28:26

position is

00:28:28

clear. if you live in the territory, it

00:28:32

would be good if you followed the rules

00:28:33

that she sets, especially since

00:28:36

you are already an adult,

00:28:39

and yes, your father lives, if I'm not mistaken, in

00:28:42

her apartment, and in her house, and of course she

00:28:45

wants it to be in her house on her

00:28:47

territory, as she decided. I have no

00:28:51

complaints. I have complaints against my father for

00:28:56

his moral punishment, and he constantly drank. It is

00:28:59

true that he will chain you to the battery. This is

00:29:02

after this case. How did he

00:29:04

take me from Khrystynovka from Gala? This was the

00:29:06

last time I saw him. Sasha There he

00:29:09

broke my nose and at the same time dad

00:29:13

grabbed me by the hair and hit me in the face

00:29:16

when I fell to the floor he kicked me

00:29:19

because he was in kirzovyh bats he kicked me

00:29:22

like And you were pregnant at that moment

00:29:24

I was I was pregnant, but I didn't know

00:29:27

Ilyucha when they brought me that evening.

00:29:29

It was already: 30. She

00:29:32

forced me to smoke a cigarette. She

00:29:34

likes you, she smokes and drinks.

00:29:42

I saw you

00:29:44

smoking, stepmother, then they were about to

00:29:47

go to bed, she tells me I won't let you into the house

00:29:49

because you like this type of girl,

00:29:52

as she said to Halyna's apartment,

00:29:54

the situation is homeless, I'm talking to you in the

00:29:56

summer kitchen, we have a bed, and dad

00:29:58

says that I I didn't catch you,

00:30:00

I tied a chain on one side of the bed

00:30:05

with a lock and on the other side to the leg, and I

00:30:08

sat for 2 hours in the afternoon, but what about the

00:30:11

toilet, shower, food, first of all, I didn't

00:30:15

go to the toilet, I went to the

00:30:18

cesspool, they They had breakfast and lunch with me,

00:30:22

and of course, when they sat down, they

00:30:24

poured it on me. And tell me, why did he let you go?

00:30:28

A neighbor came to him and he went into the kitchen,

00:30:30

and I was lying down, of course.

00:30:37

No. And it turns out that he approaches

00:30:41

the bed and falls on the chain. I pull my leg

00:30:44

because it is uncomfortable. It presses. He

00:30:47

says what I say. Well, this is what dad

00:30:48

tied me so that I would not run away, that is, I

00:30:50

understand that the neighbor is the only thing that I

00:30:53

know that the neighbor told him, he says that you

00:30:55

're doing it now, God forbid, like, well,

00:30:57

the police will come

00:30:59

to check, well, how would you write a statement

00:31:02

that your child is missing, they say

00:31:05

they can come to you at any moment,

00:31:07

they say to check, I'll tell you so.

00:31:09

When I heard this story, I

00:31:12

had doubts. Is it true and In

00:31:16

order to clarify this question, we

00:31:18

specifically asked you on a lie detector.

00:31:45

after all, the woman watched

00:31:48

TV, because she lived with him, she saw

00:31:50

how her husband treated his child,

00:31:54

the only thing that my stepmother said to me afterwards,

00:31:56

say thank you, he didn’t even tie me up in

00:31:58

the cellar and didn’t close my dad, when he

00:32:02

drinks, he’s very stupid, that’s the

00:32:06

previous ones stepmother, as I know, they were all

00:32:09

beaten, and that's it too. I'm sorry, I would have

00:32:13

beaten you down. This is the third one

00:32:16

that I know. Well, not counting my mother, this is the

00:32:18

third one.

00:32:21

Your mother-in-law, Marina, doesn't even

00:32:24

deny that she and her husband kept

00:32:26

you in chains

00:32:28

moreover, she assures that this is

00:32:30

the only way to re-educate a

00:32:33

disobedient little girl Oksana

00:32:36

Shilova Hello Marinochka

00:32:41

Hello How long have we not seen each other for 5

00:32:45

months? Well, somehow the circumstances have turned out

00:32:47

that you are now a grandmother. Well,

00:32:50

yes, I am glad to see my grandson.

00:32:58

ostatsya для ная Mom is a child. It's good, but how is it

00:33:01

that your child was chained

00:33:05

several times, the child came to us, we

00:33:08

asked for help at school, and the child ran away

00:33:11

from a good life, I don't know how she answered us.

00:33:19

I

00:33:22

moved her, it happened in your house, well, the

00:33:26

chain was yours, well, ours is

00:33:31

yours. Yes, where did you get the chain of the country’s economy?

00:33:46

the relationship between us has changed a lot.

00:33:49

When she ran away the first time,

00:33:55

we had a conversation with her. the

00:34:03

second

00:34:05

time, when she ran away, did you already know where to

00:34:07

look for her? how to

00:34:21

deal with her, how

00:34:23

to stop her,

00:34:26

you will not understand the reason. No, no one is talking about it, not even

00:34:31

in my thoughts. I didn't even think about it.

00:34:33

You understand that everything just

00:34:35

starts with a chain. When you make a

00:34:37

decision, it leaves a person Freedom, in

00:34:40

such a perverted way, you are

00:34:42

you declare your ownership rights to

00:34:45

this person, if you reported this to the

00:34:48

police, believe me, they would

00:34:50

not have threatened you with a finger, this illegal

00:34:52

deprivation of liberty is 5 years old, you have

00:34:54

children, yes, I have a one-year-old daughter, and how

00:34:57

would you treat it if your daughter

00:34:59

My daughter was sitting in chains, I wouldn't

00:35:01

have done that. I bathed her like a child.

00:35:03

Marina was in the bathroom. Like a child, she

00:35:06

bathed. We bought new clothes. Panties,

00:35:11

socks, because she has problem legs.

00:35:19

I'm cleaning the table, Marina is sitting

00:35:23

na na

00:35:26

na

00:35:28

no, listen to me, I'm not leading to this, I did

00:35:31

n't see any initiative in her

00:35:33

to work on her own. Well, okay, I suggest to Marina,

00:35:36

let's not be lazy, let's work on the leg

00:35:39

because it's so much, well,

00:35:41

we didn't have enough four pairs of shoes for a month

00:35:43

We bought up to five pairs of shoes.

00:35:47

She just wears the shoes. She found this

00:35:51

hand

00:35:53

to work out. Yes, Marina, that's what I'm

00:35:55

talking about. If your

00:35:58

fingers don't stand like that, you'll be comfortable

00:36:00

because your muscles are growing. Well, I'm

00:36:02

just telling you how it was, an orthopedist.

00:36:04

No, I'm not here now. I sit and listen for 20 minutes about

00:36:07

how good you are and how she doesn't appreciate it,

00:36:10

and it makes me angry that you

00:36:13

are trying to work out the consequences of cerebral palsy for a 20-year-old child without

00:36:16

understanding the essence of the

00:36:18

problem.

00:36:24

don't care for her at all, she could sit and

00:36:26

do nothing. And why should she care for her? You don't know about her. It's

00:36:34

a pity. Why do you applaud? A woman

00:36:38

married a man who has a

00:36:40

child.

00:36:46

что тебе такое,

00:36:49

the child said to you in the summer, after 18 years of age,

00:36:55

you are right, so you could, in principle,

00:36:59

offer your help, some

00:37:01

small work around the house, not hard work, and

00:37:05

what you could do, ate the dishes,

00:37:09

swept. I'm sorry, Aunt Oksana VS.

00:37:13

вы меня, I

00:37:16

taught you that you should clean up

00:37:18

so that there is no left, try to do

00:37:21

it so that there is no left.

00:37:34

Why didn't you

00:37:35

come home What happened to you And now I'm

00:37:38

telling you a secret, dad didn't tell you

00:37:41

that he forced me to sleep with him

00:37:46

[music]

00:37:48

that for two months, after

00:37:52

my last escape with

00:37:54

you, I

00:37:56

thought with my mother that my father would be put in

00:37:59

prison No, this is true say, put the

00:38:03

girl on the lie detector, they

00:38:07

put me in shock. I was the first time at

00:38:10

work. He drank. The

00:38:12

first time, remember. Why did

00:38:14

n't you tell me this? I didn't say it. And why did

00:38:17

you see her being held on a leash? The eyes of a

00:38:19

lamb were disembowelled, and you

00:38:21

were holding a child on a leash. I sat and watched, you're a

00:38:24

fool, you're sticking it here, wait, why do you

00:38:28

understand what you just

00:38:29

said? These are terrible

00:38:33

things.

00:38:45

In the store, you

00:38:48

asked me then. Who do you buy beer from? I

00:38:50

told him that someone came to him. When I

00:38:53

left, an uncle was sitting there. And who

00:38:56

was sitting? I don't know him. I don't know. Do you

00:38:59

work in the store?

00:39:03

I returned

00:39:05

home, he was already drunk, he was lying on the

00:39:08

bed, he asked me to make him

00:39:09

coffee, I brought him coffee to the house, he said, I

00:39:12

want to talk to you, we

00:39:15

started a normal conversation, then he, and if I

00:39:19

ask you something,

00:39:22

Oksana, there is no point in deceiving me Well, I'm

00:39:26

listening to Marina,

00:39:27

he's saying, "What exactly? Well, I didn't

00:39:31

know that he's going to ask, he's going to sleep with

00:39:34

dad, that's what

00:39:36

he told you, Marina,

00:39:42

you're just killing me." do

00:39:52

you love God, where did I get into, what family did I

00:39:56

get into, he took me by the hand, pulled me onto the

00:40:00

bed, I was sitting on the edge of your bed, as usual,

00:40:02

he lay down next to me, lay down,

00:40:05

started to hug me, first on my back,

00:40:08

strokes my back, like, well, what are you

00:40:10

afraid of me? He began to kiss my

00:40:17

neck the first time He then of course on the

00:40:21

second time when you came home from work in the evening

00:40:23

I was washing my hands at the sink he

00:40:25

told me God forbid try to say

00:40:28

it was repeatedly It was

00:40:30

repeatedly that is for two

00:40:33

months for the first time He apologized He

00:40:36

said that he won't touch me anymore,

00:40:38

he asked me on my knees to

00:40:41

forgive him, and he was when he asked for

00:40:44

forgiveness, he was sober, and during

00:40:47

the contact, during these

00:40:50

encounters, he was drunk, and it is

00:40:54

true that when your husband drinks, he is so

00:40:58

Well, he's a little out of his mind. No, I didn't

00:41:01

watch it, honestly, well, it's incest, it's

00:41:04

rape, for starters, he raped his

00:41:08

own child, he actually raped you.

00:41:10

You couldn't study because she

00:41:13

would become disorderly, so this is the second

00:41:15

part, I asked him, we had

00:41:17

a conversation with him, I asked I'm telling you why exactly.

00:41:20

That's exactly what you're looking for. You

00:41:24

have a wife. I'm sorry. We had such

00:41:26

a conversation with him. I'm telling you what I'm talking about. Little TT,

00:41:30

Oksana, he's like you. You're like a drug to me. That's

00:41:36

when it was.

00:41:39

you were

00:41:41

in the summer, you were already pregnant, I didn't

00:41:44

know that I was pregnant, I had my period

00:41:47

[music]

00:41:49

so

00:41:52

wait, what's bothering you, it's just that she

00:41:55

confirms that my

00:41:56

period started when you and I were pregnant,

00:41:58

Marina, in

00:42:01

June, I had a delay, oh, but I

00:42:04

got my period So this is you. Why are you

00:42:07

coming now? Why? Because when

00:42:10

I want to find out about the pregnancy, there was

00:42:12

contact with the father, it’s also interesting to me. I

00:42:16

asked what period the interval was,

00:42:18

what days?

00:42:24

the moment you look

00:42:29

now, whose side am I on now, not on

00:42:33

whose side I am on mine,

00:42:37

wait, what kind of contact do you want

00:42:40

to understand about, if at least

00:42:42

the fact that Marina already told

00:42:45

you about is not enough contact?

00:42:49

to a disabled girl, this is

00:42:51

not enough, I am interested in it, it

00:42:54

was after Christ, that it changes. Well, what

00:42:58

pushed him to this, I can’t understand

00:43:01

the tone, what can he, this chain pushed him to it,

00:43:06

that is, he first put her on the chain, and

00:43:08

then he

00:43:10

you have lost your mind, I'm trying to

00:43:13

understand how a man is and how a father. Was there

00:43:16

ever such a situation, and God forbid that

00:43:18

Marina cheated?

00:43:28

you are in a

00:43:31

state of shock and stress, nevertheless, you

00:43:35

assume that this is

00:43:38

possible, or you dismiss it completely, I do

00:43:41

n't even know what you want to answer

00:43:43

this question, do they assume it or not,

00:43:45

I did not observe there who

00:43:48

could answer this question, we asked

00:43:51

этот вопрос Marina on a lie detector

00:43:55

Let's look at it interestingly you can

00:43:57

find out for sure if it's true or

00:44:00

a lie did your father ever force you to have

00:44:03

sex with him yes sure

00:44:07

answer Yes and it's a clear

00:44:14

truth did you ever have sex with your

00:44:17

father when you were 19 years old

00:44:21

yes unequivocal answer Yes, and this is

00:44:24

again the clear truth,

00:44:28

father, at least once I harassed you

00:44:30

before you turned 19.

00:44:33

No, the answer is no. And it’s

00:44:39

true, well, it wasn’t me,

00:44:46

God, we honestly didn’t want to

00:44:52

believe it, Dmitri. You want to know the truth from your

00:44:57

husband. это делал Yes, you will have

00:44:59

the opportunity to ask him этот вопрос, God,

00:45:01

what a horror,

00:45:03

God, Anatoly vergles, you are

00:45:07

dead. Good afternoon. Hello, Anatoly,

00:45:11

please sit down.

00:45:14

Here we have found your daughter. The

00:45:18

first thing I want to ask you is Why did you

00:45:22

put her on a chain?

00:45:25

catch

00:45:27

ask her if she weaved Well, I

00:45:29

guess I usually run away from home because it is

00:45:32

not comfortable at home or because it is

00:45:34

not safe at home Well, as a rule What

00:45:38

do you think is a good

00:45:40

father, what does she think, am I a good father And

00:45:43

what do you think No, let's do it Well, you an

00:45:45

adult man There is no need to

00:45:47

transfer the responsibility to the child

00:45:49

from childhood, oh mother, when I am just

00:45:53

trying to do something, my mother came,

00:45:55

took her, her mother went to prison, they write

00:45:59

to me again What, come and get the child, because the child

00:46:03

disappears, I take it again, I only

00:46:05

arranged a little back, the mother

00:46:09

appears, and how is she transitional flag,

00:46:12

and her mother taught her to walk there,

00:46:15

to ask for alms, to raise money, how did she want to

00:46:20

live on her own? Well, she already

00:46:23

achieved what she

00:46:25

wanted on her own. Well, you see, she is forced to

00:46:28

stay in the house of the mother and the child, and not in the

00:46:30

house of the father. I also suggested that the house

00:46:34

is gasified house, she said, I do

00:46:36

n't want to live in the village. Ugh. Do you think that the

00:46:39

reason is only that you have a house in the village, and

00:46:41

they offered it if you offered an apartment in the city? If you offered it,

00:46:43

she would agree. I don't

00:46:45

know what the reason is. She says.

00:46:47

there are no complaints,

00:46:51

you know. But yours. Here she

00:46:54

wrote me a

00:46:57

receipt for the teacher. The teacher has a receipt in

00:47:00

this studio.

00:47:03

I am Vergles Marina Anatolyvna.

00:47:07

I assure you that I have no complaints against

00:47:10

my

00:47:11

father, Anatoly Ivanovich, and

00:47:14

I renounce my rights to housing.

00:47:16

In the future, I will be responsible for my

00:47:18

actions myself.

00:47:22

What is the purpose of this list and the World Cup?

00:47:25

Write a receipt that you

00:47:29

have no complaints against me. I already got along with you.

00:47:39

в виду что есть какая другай reason

00:47:42

for which she has complaints against you. I do

00:47:44

n't know. It is possible to avoid responsibility.

00:47:47

Look, if we are talking

00:47:50

about the reasons for responsibility,

00:47:52

your wife has a

00:47:55

question in my eyes. Well, you

00:47:59

had sexual contact. with Marina, when are you stupid?

00:48:04

I'm asking you, I didn't have any

00:48:07

contact with her

00:48:10

[music]

00:48:11

you agree sat on the detector I agree Where do you

00:48:13

want to go I don't have anywhere else to

00:48:20

go [music] And you are not embarrassed at all by the question itself

00:48:24

somehow вы так очень well, well, why should I be

00:48:28

embarrassed, as I had nothing, you are not

00:48:30

ashamed that the child is crippled What are you

00:48:33

going to tell me, the crippled child gave birth, you carrion

00:48:36

raped Ina, tear the carrion apart Yes, yes,

00:48:41

where they raped her, let her be raped there, and

00:48:44

you should

00:48:45

be raped Uhu ok she said, "We

00:48:49

know everything, you're waving your mane. The detector was going to be

00:48:53

on the

00:48:55

detector. There was a detector. There was a detector. There was a

00:48:58

detector. It was a lie. And how do you

00:49:02

live with it? How much? It

00:49:05

turned out that your own

00:49:08

daughter is accusing you of this. She was

00:49:13

accusing me before I I went to school to

00:49:16

embarrass her, she wrote a report on me to

00:49:18

the police, even though there was nothing before that, and

00:49:20

now there is nothing, and it was later. Yes,

00:49:23

I did

00:49:27

n't care about you. I was already beaten, and after that, I would not have

00:49:30

written a report on you. no, not about this. And

00:49:33

about this, a complaint was written in

00:49:35

Khrystynivka about what, Galya, is a witness

00:49:38

to the fact that you are morally surprised and

00:49:42

beat me morally, a statement was written about this,

00:49:44

and my mother did not beat you. Yes, my mother did

00:49:47

not beat me, because I was her I didn't see it, I

00:49:48

lived with my aunt, and x raped you, not my mother,

00:49:51

I didn't rape her, you are the father of the child, the

00:49:54

father, who is not the father,

00:49:58

Oh, how did you wrap the two daughters, if you came up, you would

00:50:03

break Anatoly, that is, you doubt

00:50:06

that this is your daughter, I doubt it, yes, I doubt it already

00:50:10

you doubt it, that is, you want another

00:50:13

DNA test. Yes, you mentioned that it is not a fact that this is

00:50:16

your child, you

00:50:19

are asking this way, well, potentially, Bravo, Anya,

00:50:21

they confirmed it, I wanted to tell

00:50:25

DKU Du, there is still no one like her, and

00:50:30

how much she has spoiled me already over the

00:50:32

years. You don't

00:50:34

care, what did you do? You married a

00:50:37

woman and climbed on your child. You didn't climb

00:50:39

on my child. Who did you climb on?

00:50:41

It sits

00:50:44

because it is a bigger mess than this. Respect, you

00:50:48

can imagine the audacity that

00:50:51

Anatoly here declares that he did

00:50:52

not do it. Well You're probably not stupid,

00:50:54

forgive my French. You understand

00:50:56

what he's going to say here. I

00:51:04

contacted you with voluntary consent

00:51:06

and made claims to you. Then you

00:51:08

can't be an old girl.

00:51:16

yes Two adults

00:51:20

had sex without any obvious

00:51:25

violence, and it

00:51:30

was not even if he is not the father

00:51:42

parties If

00:51:44

the woman does not want In any case it

00:51:46

will be qualified as rape

00:51:49

she is disabled and she will be in a

00:51:52

disorderly state and in the end if

00:51:54

found guilty Anatoly will answer

00:51:57

very well Well here is aggravating he is

00:51:59

drunk he is a father she will stand up in a parade

00:52:02

Well you what is this a serious question Oksana I

00:52:05

ask for forgiveness, you have known your husband

00:52:07

for a long time, yes, I have known him since the

00:52:11

age of 14. 14 years is enough time

00:52:14

to understand a person.

00:52:16

Violence continues for 2 months. This behavior cannot pass

00:52:18

without a trace, and it would have

00:52:20

been a

00:52:25

summer of fear. There wasn't any congestion there.

00:52:31

Marina, I didn't notice it because of you. Well, you

00:52:35

know perfectly well yourself, and you know what

00:52:38

it was, and you're sitting here,

00:52:41

wait, wait,

00:52:43

please, you know why I refused

00:52:46

to live in the

00:52:49

house the last time he came, I was already

00:52:51

married I knew he came last time.

00:52:54

Don't say that this wasn't the

00:52:58

case. This is how my eyes look. Look

00:53:01

last time. When you came, when you

00:53:03

brought the furniture, and on the second day, when I was

00:53:06

already tidying up, it was just that

00:53:08

day when he brought the furniture, and I

00:53:09

made the bed. He told me that

00:53:13

nothing will happen to you, let's do it one last time,

00:53:16

nothing will happen to you. You fell from

00:53:19

the oak tree. You fell from the oak tree. You will

00:53:22

fall. I have no place to fall. I have already fallen. Well, what kind of

00:53:25

conscience can you have? Listen, I have a

00:53:28

40-year-old husband. Two children, Marina. I want to

00:53:31

ask you. You ran away from home several times,

00:53:33

fearing your father's cruel attitude.

00:53:35

He insulted you, you say. Yes, he

00:53:37

beat you. That's the 2 months you

00:53:39

were in the house where you stayed twice a

00:53:40

week. Listen to me, please.

00:53:43

You found where to go. And when you

00:53:46

had to deal with saving your

00:53:48

child in order to remain his mother, I am

00:53:50

asking completely sincerely. I am afraid

00:53:51

that it will sound like some kind of attack

00:53:53

on you.

00:54:00

same program for which

00:54:03

you wrote, Why didn't you go to the police

00:54:06

if he offered it again?

00:54:09

No, wait, you

00:54:13

had to go to the police before that, you

00:54:14

went to the police, wrote a statement

00:54:16

that he was infringing on your rights, and

00:54:20

then there was violence all summer And in September,

00:54:24

he proposes to you again,

00:54:25

and you don't go to the

00:54:27

police at the same time, you calmly go to school and

00:54:31

carry the child in your heart, that's how it was. Yes,

00:54:34

Oksana, why instead of finding

00:54:36

out now, Oksana, stop, you just

00:54:39

learned such news, even if it's not

00:54:42

true but you continue to pressurize to

00:54:44

behave aggressively towards the child. Why do

00:54:47

n't you and the man work things out?

00:55:06

you were also

00:55:08

sitting and watching, I would have already watched If

00:55:11

I had roommates, I saw that

00:55:13

he was tying up the child.

00:55:27

for the purpose of that you hurt the child to us,

00:55:30

you don't think I'm in the bay near here,

00:55:34

Marina, tell you, Marina told you that your

00:55:36

ward had raped her, did

00:55:39

you know this

00:55:40

information about the tangential reaction, that's

00:55:43

Konstantin. I understand very well what

00:55:44

you're talking about. Dima was outraged by how the

00:55:46

woman maybe in this way. Don't

00:55:49

attack a man, attack a child.

00:55:51

Let's be honest. When a

00:55:52

person has such a stressful and difficult

00:55:54

condition, the reaction is therefore

00:55:55

inadequate for the situation.

00:56:04

but when it

00:56:06

happens to you when it happens

00:56:08

to your sick part Unfortunately,

00:56:11

this is the mechanism of negation, I'm not

00:56:13

asking to justify it, I'm trying to

00:56:14

explain it, it's different things, I can't

00:56:16

claim in any way the truth in the

00:56:19

last instance

00:56:25

creates a category of people with certain

00:56:28

mental characteristics who

00:56:29

really believe in the version that

00:56:32

they choose for themselves.

00:56:45

get an explanation for yourself in life and

00:56:48

simply know the answer to this question is it possible

00:56:50

So that a person who believes 100% in the

00:56:54

version that he invents as a result of

00:56:56

his suffering is able to pass a

00:56:58

lie detector and receive confirmation with

00:57:01

his words, all the necessary analyzes we will

00:57:03

provide the final points in In this

00:57:06

question, two important

00:57:08

studies will be conducted, this is a DNA test that

00:57:10

will confirm or disprove your kinship.

00:57:29

even relatives, she Bert,

00:57:32

old things from home, oh, and poor people, I’m there, here and there,

00:57:35

and they start

00:57:37

begging. It’s not our genes. We are like that, according to our

00:57:40

genes. There was no thought. We were in-laws, boys,

00:57:43

and now it turns out that your father raped you,

00:57:47

my dear. And what else was my father

00:57:51

against such behavior? She is so

00:57:53

revengeful to him, she is the one,

00:57:56

and what kind of lies Sasha will spit even on our

00:58:00

heroine. You claimed that this is not your

00:58:03

child, she is spinning the wheels to just not

00:58:05

leave him tomorrow, the child is 8 months old.

00:58:09

I took it to do DNA, so he did not say

00:58:12

what he was doing in the studio.

00:58:17

также Is it true

00:58:21

Anatoly that one of the best laratoy as

00:58:26

a result of a lie detector test, it's

00:58:29

time to put the dots above Have you

00:58:32

ever had sex with

00:58:38

[music]

00:58:40

Marina

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